Japan wants a SOFA change; right to keep criminal suspects

JUNewsBot · 10-29-2009, 03:10 PM

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Japan and the United States may be gearing up for another bruising battle involving changes to the Status of Forces Agreement, as the new Prime Minister thinks his government should have the right to arbitrarily demand U.S.

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TheLastDon · 10-29-2009, 03:12 PM

Japan can have my old sofa.

Tanimaga · 10-29-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLastDon

Japan can have my old sofa.

Ceremoniously set it to sail in the east China sea.

Richard Burns · 10-29-2009, 03:57 PM

That article is crap. US enviromental standards enforced on base are more strict than the GoJ so WTF?

The way the SOFA is now is fine. Get a damn indictment first. The US said if they record the interrogations they'll go with it so again WTF?

I just bought a new sofa and the GoJ can't have that one.

canjap02 · 10-29-2009, 04:04 PM

Hey the crime is off bases, Im all for the JPs having him/her. Just cause your military doesnt mean you shouldnt be punished by the local law.

If a JASDF member robbed an old lady in L.A. etc. americans would want him/her convicted by local laws. Its just the same.

gtlm2000 · 10-29-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLastDon

Japan can have my old sofa.

old sofa? what do you mean?

Richard Burns · 10-29-2009, 04:13 PM

What are you talking about canjap?

SOFA people are required to follow all Japanese laws. SOFA people who are arrested by the local police off base are punished by the Japanese.

All the SOFA does is require an indictment if the guy made it back to base and he gets accused at a later time.

Also if the police are actually chasing you the MPs let the JPs right through the gate so there's no running away if they're activly in pursuit of you.

If they change the SOFA it will leave too much room for he said/she said bullshit.

Plus the US even said they will go with it if the Japanese record their interrogations. The ball's in their court.

TheLastDon · 10-29-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gtlm2000

old sofa? what do you mean?

If you look at the top page http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/

All you see for the thread title is

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Japan wants a SOFA

Richard Burns · 10-29-2009, 04:15 PM

Also the UCMJ is more strict than Japanese and regular US law.

One of the strictest legal systems I know of besides Singapore's Military's law.

gtlm2000 · 10-29-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLastDon

If you look at the top page http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/

All you see for the thread title is

I understood

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canjap02 dha dha dhats all folks Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Naha, Sobe Okinawa Posts: 842 Thanks: 297 Thanked 493 Times in 315 Posts Groans: 4 Groaned at 108 Times in 81 Posts Credits: 24,044	Hey the crime is off bases, Im all for the JPs having him/her. Just cause your military doesnt mean you shouldnt be punished by the local law. If a JASDF member robbed an old lady in L.A. etc. americans would want him/her convicted by local laws. Its just the same.

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