Can you spot the difference between enlisted and officers...

[TheNoNamedOne]

... when they are out in town in civilian attire?

What points gives them away?

[ProtoEVO]

... when they are out in town in civilian attire?

What points gives them away?

It is all in the clothes, I mean liberty attire.

[atb35]

I can usually tell, mostly by the way they dress and carry themselves. Age to a certain extent as well. Older enlisted people tend to look like they were beaten more then older officers.

[silviasichigo]

Depends on the Branch, if you are speaking of USMC you "should not" be able to spot the difference as they are "Supposed" to be held to the same high standard. To answer the question most of the time no.

[Muku]

Depends on the Branch, if you are speaking of USMC you "should not" be able to spot the difference as they are "Supposed" to be held to the same high standard. To answer the question most of the time no.
I would tend to agree, however if they start to open their mouths and talk, it usually is to me at least, pretty easy to figure out the Junior officers and Enlisted.


Older enlisted people tend to look like they were beaten more then older officers.

Closer to :dead: maybe?

[TheNoNamedOne]

I think clothes are a good indicator. Officers' clothes seem more conservative. They certainly do not where sports jerseys with the numbers of their favorit stars on them. They also do not put the bling on like some of the enlisted do.

It also seems like more enlisted men have overweight wives than officers. Officer wives seem more petite and refined -- perhaps like a kind of trophy wife to hang on their arms.

[socalheart]

(examples that I notice)
Clothing: khakis and polo vs. baggie jeans and band t-shirt
Attitude: manners and posture
Conversation: hi! vs. yo!
Age.
Family: behaviour of spouse and children

Although it should be more difficult to distinguish rank between those in the USMC in civilian attire, 95% of the time one can. For me, the difference in rank is most obvious in younger men and women.

[okinawapaul]

I think clothes are a good indicator. Officers' clothes seem more conservative. They certainly do not where sports jerseys with the numbers of their favorit stars on them. They also do not put the bling on like some of the enlisted do.

You haven't seen many AF officers have you!

It also seems like more enlisted men have overweight wives than officers. Officer wives seem more petite and refined -- perhaps like a kind of trophy wife to hang on their arms.

I see it oppositely than you. I see many large officers' wives and quite a few of the Ewives are fine as hell!

[socalheart]

Enlisted tend to wear more casual yet stylish attire
such as polo shirt with jeans or slacks and shoes!:D

Ha! :eek: Okay, where are you going to see this in enlisted men? :p We have to be going out to dinner or something nice for my husband to wear khakis and a polo. :D

[TheNoNamedOne]

Language is also a dead giveaway. I think Uchinamuku mentioned that as well. Sitting at SBs with a table full of militar on either side, if one is officer and one is enlisted, the difference is readily known. Not only what and how they speak, but volume also seems to let one know. Officer speech seems quieter and more low key -- not so boisterous.

It says something when even a Japanese can distinguish the two. My wife sure can.

Older enlisted men of higher rank seem like fish out of water in civilian attire out in town.

Also, I would venture to say, that all those who wear cowboy hats and boots out in town are probably enlisted. If their chewin' and a spitten, that, too, is a good indicator.

[ProtoEVO]

Ha! :eek: Okay, where are you going to see this in enlisted men? :p We have to be going out to dinner or something nice for my husband to wear khakis and a polo. :D

Khakis and polo = SNCO

[TheNoNamedOne]

Loud gangsta rap coming from a POV is a good indicator they are enlisted.

[okinawapaul]

So classical or light jazz would indicate officer LOL

That would just indicate a nerd, could go either way!

[socalheart]

Loud gangsta rap coming from a POV is a good indicator they are enlisted.
:D Also a good indicator that he or she is rude and obnoxious. Although, there are a few officers who are guilty of breaking the vehicle noise rule.

So classical or light jazz would indicate officer LOL
:p A really, really OLD officer or SNCO. Or there's always the whole don't ask, don't tell thing. ;)

[Muku]

:thumbup: good one!

Gotta agree with this one :thumbup1:

[socalheart]

The only officer I ever saw "fit in" at a club was dressed in regular old jeans and a surfer t-shirt. At 40-something, he didn't even look like a Commander. I also saw a 30-something Major in surfer style shorts and a surfer shirt fit in with enlisted folks, but his neatly coiffed hair was the giveaway.

[atb35]

I think some enlisted men have overweight wives but usually have a petite girlfriends who sometimes might be married to officers:D

LOL, I didnt have the wife, but i did have the GF:)

[CGoki]

I'm not gay, nor was I ever a staff enlisted, but my musical choice at times includes classical music. It is very soothing when driving around in the constant gridlock of Oki traffic.

Some ridiculous stereotypes thrown around in this thread. Guess some of you have never been to an officer's club when they are tilting them back non-stop. The place will get loud. I guess that is different though since they are holed up in their domain. I was enlisted, but I didn't act out, it comes down to PARENTING and how one is raised. Don't try to put it down to officers and enlisted. And if they weren't raised that way and still act out, I will account that to them being weak minded and wanting to fit in with others so as to not stand out, hmmm sort of sounds like most Japanese. :P

[socalheart]

Good point CG. Most of us posted amusing stereotypes not meant to offend. :) We all know the exceptions to the stereotypes. We just may not know many of them. Ha! :D

[P_chan]

I'm enlisted and my wife isn't fat.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Though not 100% true, and perhaps very low in percentage terms, a lot of stereotypes have some small bases in reality. Same goes with jokes that exagerate and make fun of people -- they are funny and the audience gets them because they get the small kernal of truth that the whole thing is wrapped around.

Speaking in generalities, I think a lot of the stereotypes that have been put forth here that let's us distinguish between officers and enlisted, are for the most part true.

[CGoki]

I'll just say most officers don't do what enlisted do for the most part, because most are too scared to be ridiculed by their fellow officers. As I have said in another post or two, most people when they open their mouth all that should be heard is baaahhhhhhhh baaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

If you have been in the military, you would see how stick in the ass most officers are when other officers are present. It's quite comical, well to me it was.

Guess now I am the one sort of stereotyping, aren't I? :D

[PKaBooo69]

I cant always tell. Some of them young officers look like little kids, still wet behind the ears. (and act just as retarded if not more annoyingly so than the powerless PFC)

I think it only becomes noticable when the person starts speaking. In the Marines, the enlisted tend to be louder and more confident. Older enlist walk with a certain air about themselves. If it wasnt for the haircut (and in many cases the style of dress) though I would seriously mistake some of the older officers for civilians.

Its not all like that. So dont take this as gospel. This is just my observation as of late. Been having a bad run of luck with officers who are virgins who probably never partied a day in thier life. Basically the "got stuffed in a locker" type.

[Crazysix]

Man most of my friends are officers and they dont fit a stereotype, most enlisted cant tell the difference unless the O wants them to. But you can tell the Jr. enlisted tight jeans, red devil dog jacket with base patches in the order of MCRD, MCT, MCB foster, and either the patent leather coraframs, desert boots, or boot camp go fasters. The new Lt who wants to let loose but everytime they do or someone around them they reach for their Core Values card or walk away from the evil temptation of us evil expats

[P_chan]

All i have to say is once you assume something, like officer's wives are more 'refined':rolleyes: (petty would be a better word) then enlisted wives, that same saying just pops into my head.

Once you assume something you make an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'me'.

[Honduh]

I'm not gay, nor was I ever a staff enlisted, but my musical choice at times includes classical music. It is very soothing when driving around in the constant gridlock of Oki traffic.

Some ridiculous stereotypes thrown around in this thread. Guess some of you have never been to an officer's club when they are tilting them back non-stop. The place will get loud. I guess that is different though since they are holed up in their domain. I was enlisted, but I didn't act out, it comes down to PARENTING and how one is raised. Don't try to put it down to officers and enlisted. And if they weren't raised that way and still act out, I will account that to them being weak minded and wanting to fit in with others so as to not stand out, hmmm sort of sounds like most Japanese. :P

I would have to 100% agree.
:thumbup:

[TheNoNamedOne]

Also, officers do not go 'overboard' on tatoos? I don't think I have ever seen spiderwebs on an officer's elbow.

They seem to have the ability to express themselves in other ways and exhibit more self control when it comes to inking themselves.

[P_chan]

They also flip out if they can't park in front of the building.

Tattoos are a personal preference and have nothing to do with you being enlisted or an officer.

[P_chan]

Always thought this was a funny enlisted/officer joke

http://www.chairforce.com/fun/humor/demotivational/hires/aircraft-mxs.jpg

[Ammoyankee]

I would have to say that hair is a big giveaway. For the G.I.'s that have longer hair I think the parted at the side, Vitalis look is officer all the way!

[drinkandrun]

Also, officers do not go 'overboard' on tatoos? I don't think I have ever seen spiderwebs on an officer's elbow.

They seem to have the ability to express themselves in other ways and exhibit more self control when it comes to inking themselves.

In the Corps we will generally not put someone into OCS with excessive tattoos or any that show in charlies (short sleeve khaki and green pants). Once Os are in there are regs (or at least we're told that) against tats that show. Like everything else there are exceptions.
I think most people who've been around long enough can tell the difference. It's like being a bartender and knowing which guy will be the best tipper and thus gets served first and more often. Oh and before you girls get all huffy, 99.9999995% of the time the best tippers are men. I'll bet if we did a spot search there would be at least one tip calculator card in a purse and none in wallets. Sorry about the non sequitur.

[Skiman1969]

I think some enlisted men have overweight wives but usually have a petite girlfriends who sometimes might be married to officers:D

Sayings that I heard at my last base that cracked me up:

BMW= Big Military Wife and Dependapotamus, there are a lot of them these days and usually pushing 3-4 kids in a shopping cart and 1 in the oven. :D I am going to here some shit over this one but it is true!

[kombu_kid]

I could tell officer from enlisted pretty easily when I was in the military. They usually did walk with a certain air about them......almost like always conscious about how they looked as they did this, or did that....whether it was shopping around the PX or whatever. I also noticed that their women were more petite, well-dressed and I think, on average, even taller than a lot of dependent wives. It seemed that I saw less officers married to Japanese women too.......and I remember thinking "wouldn't want to taint their precious bloodlines". But, I got along well with most officers I met.

One funny saying I heard when I was in was "there's nothing more dangerous than a 2nd lieutenant and a compass."

[Tony Stacks]

Most officer dress like little nerds with their shirts tucked in so damn tight they look like they're wearing shirt stays LMFAO

[Tony Stacks]

Loud gangsta rap coming from a POV is a good indicator they are enlisted.


Or a Mustang or Gunner.

[Oki alumni]

Differences in, and spotting the military:

1. Lower grade enlisted, walk like they SHOULD be somewhere, and they're in a hurry to get there.

2. Mid-grade enlisted, walk like the know where they're going, and they WILL eventually get there.

3. Top-grade enlisted, walk like they've already been there and gotten their business done with, and are ready to chew ass with categories 1 and 2 for not doing the same.

4. Officers...pretty much all of them, walk like THEY are the business that HAS to get done, and expect categories 1, 2, and 3 to follow ANY orders given by category 4 personnel, to "accomplish the mission" (whatever the **** THAT is!).

5. Civilians walk like they don't particularly care WHERE the hell they're going, and that all that "military necessity business" is the total BS, that in reality, it actually is.

Don't take MY word for it, I've only had 40 years plus of experience. Check this out for YOURSELVES, and see if it doesn't "ring true".

-Oki Alumni:old:

[eodmatt]

I had no problem identifying officers when I was a soldier, whether in or out of uniform. Recognition was based on generic principles taking into account, bearing, carriage, speech, dress etc and was essential to ensure correct avoidance drills selection which allowed me to pursue a sublime life of undetected military crime and idleness.

Just as an aside, when serving at a NATO base in Germany, we could always spot a Dutch military officer because they cycled everywhere. In the winter we would extract the Michael when we saw a Dutch officer approaching along an icy road by quickly forming a squad and marching towards him. The senior person would really ham up the British accent shouting: "H'officer h'approaching, prepare to pay respects" and, throwing up a magnificent salute, "H'EYES RIGHT!" (or left, whatever). The unfortunate Dutch officer would invariably wobble precariously on the glassy road surface whilst attempting to return the salute. Many of them fell off, to the raucous cheers of the squad, which would break into double time and bugger off smartly.

[Oki alumni]

Had a similar incident (officer...bicycle) whilst stationed at Ubon Rachathani RTAFB, Thailand, when an Captain about my age, on a bicycle, and laden with a bag of heavy groceries in his right arm, rounded the bend...saw me, and IMMEDIATELY said "DON'T SALUTE...DON'T SALUTE"....LOL, I saluted, but didn't REALLY expect a return, which he wisely didn't.

-Oki Alumni (BTDT)

[eodmatt]

Ubon Rachathani eh? I had no idea that such a place existed (along with probably millions of other places on earth, of course) Until I went there two years ago, en-route for the river crossing into Laos. Hail fellow.. etc.. LOL

[eodmatt]

Just an observation: Another point re identifying H'officers and most SNCO's..... Take a look at the greater public en mass, say, during the rush hour as they are all streaming by. Take a look at their eyes. Many of them dont even look conscious let alone sentient. Generally speaking, military personnel, police officers and some fire fighter are fully observant during such a transit phase, and it shows in their eyes.

[perfect10]

1. Most Officers wives walk around as if they are the queen of the world and wear there husbands rank. I hate that saw an officer put the smack down on there wife the one time it was funny. No one treats me like shit and gets away with it.. Ha-ha long story but funny.

2. A lot of enlisted wives once they get there husband let them selves go. I have seen many stop taking pride in them selves over a 2-year period. In addition, some of those over weight wives were very pretty when there husbands married them.

3. I find with officers in the Air Force it is all where they come from, did they go to the academy, ROTC, or prior enlisted. They all try to look professional but it is all in different ways, the Academy grads seem to take on a very YUPPY look, ROTC seem to be a little more relaxed but put a little YUPPY into there lives just not as much as the Academy grads, and the prior enlisted actually seem to hold pretty firm to there homegrown roots but put in an effort to be more YUPPY not very successful most of the time. It is like dyeing your hair your roots always start to show.

4. Enlisted are just like every blue-collar worker Simple in life and dress what ever is comfortable is the best thing to wear. Some of them do go a little over bored trying to express them selves.

I look at it as if you were looking at the world out side the fences you can tell the White collar from blue-collar workers. Officers are the Management white-collar side of the Military and the Enlisted are the workers blue-collar side.

[Oki alumni]

Ubon Rachathani eh? I had no idea that such a place existed (along with probably millions of other places on earth, of course) Until I went there two years ago, en-route for the river crossing into Laos. Hail fellow.. etc.. LOL


While I was stationed there, someone "put out a hit" on the CE 1st Sgt...rumor was that the cost was a WHOPPING 50 cents! I wouldda tossed this off as pure BS, until I ran across a lead, counterfit NICKLE!!! Loved the people/culture while I was there but alas, things have probably GREATLY changed in the last 33 years!

-Oki Alumni:old:

[uriel]

Or a Mustang or Gunner.

Haven't seen a Gunner in a VERY long time. You mean Warrant Officer?

[Obe1Canole]

Officer dress = Cookie cutter, casual and tucked in (no offense, they just have to maintain this appearance or the only thing that would seperate them from enlisted is their degree [most of them have one] and about double the money)

Junior enlisted dress = Newest fashions (whether it be jerseys or button downs or torn jeans, etc.) because typically, they are younger and cooler than the rest of the old fogies in the service.

Senior enlisted dress = More reserved because they are old and would look ridiculous if they dressed like they were when they were young and into clothing fads.

How's my aim?

[eodmatt]

[QUOTE=Obe1Canole;124240]Officer dress = Cookie cutter, casual and tucked in (no offense, they just have to maintain this appearance or the only thing that would seperate them from enlisted is their degree [most of them have one] and about double the money)

I dunno about the US army but lots of the R&F in the technical trades of the UK army have degrees these days. And the pay scales can be interesting too. Back in '75 I was a Cpl serving in Canada on a lengthy exchange exercise. As a class 1 combat engineer and a class 2 EOD engineer I was on the same pay - in fact slightly above - as the first-year pay Captain. A point that really pissed him off since his mess bills were triple mine. :D

[Travis Bickle]

you can also tell the what branch of the service a person is in, just by looking at them, if you have been in the military enough.

[Oki alumni]

[QUOTE=Obe1Canole;124240]Officer dress = Cookie cutter, casual and tucked in (no offense, they just have to maintain this appearance or the only thing that would seperate them from enlisted is their degree [most of them have one] and about double the money)

I dunno about the US army but lots of the R&F in the technical trades of the UK army have degrees these days. And the pay scales can be interesting too. Back in '75 I was a Cpl serving in Canada on a lengthy exchange exercise. As a class 1 combat engineer and a class 2 EOD engineer I was on the same pay - in fact slightly above - as the first-year pay Captain. A point that really pissed him off since his mess bills were triple mine. :D

Good point regarding the pay, Matt. All too often, enlisted folks look at almost ANY officer, thinking "Damn, I wish I had THAT KIND of money!", without consideraton of any family circumstances. I recently had communications with the wife of a USAF Captain, and the family had grown considerably large, due to "inheriting" some children due to the death of the sister of her husband. There was also mention of child support which took a "big chunk of change" out of his pay. Bottom line is that he's REALLY struggling, and she can't help because she has to take care of the kids. "What you see"...isn't ALWAYS "what you get".

-Oki Alumni:old:

[OkiKing414]

I think clothes are a good indicator. Officers' clothes seem more conservative. They certainly do not where sports jerseys with the numbers of their favorit stars on them. They also do not put the bling on like some of the enlisted do.

It also seems like more enlisted men have overweight wives than officers. Officer wives seem more petite and refined -- perhaps like a kind of trophy wife to hang on their arms.

Overweight wives WTF???????:cursing: Or do you mean enlisted men have women that may actually love them while most officers have wives that just want to be an officer's wife! Damn, that was just as retarded as what you said!

[badkitty]

Overweight wives WTF???????:cursing: Or do you mean enlisted men have women that may actually love them while most officers have wives that just want to be an officer's wife! Damn, that was just as retarded as what you said!



Well that is kinda true... Most enlisted men do have overweight wives but Officer wives are plumpin up too. But most officers and some high rankings NCO's act like mini celebrities.

[Old Timer]

This thread shows just how stereotypical some thoughts are on Okinawa.:scared:

[OtisPMerriweather]

More baiting with the wives, thing huh, TP?

I think honestly, it has more to do with the fact that officers went to college and usually end up married to a girl from school. I've been to college, and trust me, there is no shortage of good looking women there. Sometimes, I kick myself when I think of all the cute girls that actually had something going for themselves that I used to play around with and never really took seriously.

Since I enlisted however, I've noticed that the majority (of Marines, anyways) marry female Marines or girls from the local population surrounding the stations. There's usually not a real big selection, especially if you are in the Camp Lejeune, Twentynine Palms, or Yuma areas (without driving for miles, and most young Marines don't get cars right away.) A LOT(capitalized before I get jumped on) of the girls that hang around the bases and e-clubs in a Marine Corps town are what you might call "barracks rats"- you know, one of those girls who knows where everything is on base, when you get paid, and can read an LES better than an IPAC Gunny.

A very few Marines marry a hometown girl- the one they took to the prom, or the one that jumped in the pickup with him as soon as he came back to Iowa witha steady paycheck and a fresh high and tight.

Thing is, for most people in college that are 20, 21, 22, marriage is the furthest thing from their minds. It would be interesting to see how many college students are married in their first four years, compared to how many Marines are married in that same amount of time.

All that to say is that the main difference between officer and enlisted wives is that the officers have better selection, and they are generally a bit older (read:wiser) when they get married, so they make better choices.

Not a fan of officers by any stretch of the imagination, but seeing as how I've seen this first hand, AND seeing as how the divorce rate for first term Marines is somewhere around 75% these days, that woul explain the difference more than any imagined "refinery".

[TheNoNamedOne]

Most enlisted men do have overweight wives ...

Yes, indeed they do, Tae.

If enlisted men can get themselves into the pioneer days' frame of mind, then their plumpy wives can be viewed as attractive by them without any worry of insult from the views that others have regarding them having overweight wives.

-------------------------------------------------------
*Those of you enlisted men who do not have chubby wives need not fool yourselves about old time images of attractiveness. You're in reality. However, you are the anomaly with your not overweight wife.

[TheNoNamedOne]

This thread shows just how stereotypical some thoughts are on Okinawa.:scared:

Some stereotypes have a basis in truth (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1037&highlight=Stereotypes)/reality.

[Old Timer]

Some stereotypes have a basis in truth (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1037&highlight=Stereotypes)/reality.

Yes but ...............still evident. BTW I love stereotypes/ & typing!! :first:

[DougP]

I like stereos more than I like typing:)

[GODH8SU]

TP, Why do you make the MOST generaliztions about the military on this forum? Why don't you just go enlist and show that the only pair of balls that you have aren't the ones dangling from your chin.

[DougP]

Please refrain from insulting other members or insinuating that one has nuts dangling from their chin. Unless of course you have photographic proof of such allegations. Even if such were the case we would rather you just keep such things to you self.

[Sex Wax]

Photographic proof?

http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/Ballsonchin.jpg

:ohmy:

[DoctorP]

LMAO...spitting water on your monitor is sooooo uncool!

I knew an image was coming from someone though.

[DougP]

Not everyone keeps their genitals in the same place, Captain. :D

[DoctorP]

Not everyone keeps their genitals in the same place, Captain. :D

My wife has mine!:thumbdown:

[TheNoNamedOne]

TP, Why do you make the MOST generaliztions about the military on this forum?

I guess I make the most because I notice them more than others and want to comment on them and see others' opinions on them. If others notice them just as much as I do, but do not comment on them, other than after they have seen the discussion already started, then I guess they just do not want to initiate the discussion.

Nothing wrong with noting generalizations in the military. Btw, does the employer of the Ledet (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=126665&highlight=Ledet#post126665) kind still employ the kind that generally scream "Ooh-rah" after the national anthem in the movie theaters?

Oh yeah, another way to spot Marine enlisted, they scream "Ooh-rah" in theaters at scenes of violence that get their flag poles rising -- unless they are out in town where they force themselves to try and conform to manners and decorum.

[GODH8SU]

Oh yeah, another way to spot Marine enlisted, they scream "Ooh-rah" in theaters at scenes of violence that get their flag poles rising -- unless they are out in town where they force themselves to try and conform to manners and decorum.

I guess you regularly stare at mens "flagpoles"? I'll go back to my last comment.

[Fire4Effect]

[B]Officers: Polo shirt (tucked in)
Dockers shorts (with belt)
Preppy leather deck shoes (no socks)
Ray Ban aviator sunglasses

Enlisted: Gate 2 Street " Playaz" gear
Oakley sunglasses

Retirees (aka Burger King Coffee Club): Ragged stretched out T-shirt
Plaid golfing shorts
Tennis shoes
Black dress socks
Big, huge sunglasses designed to
shield your eyes against solar flares[B]

[Oki alumni]

[B]Officers: Polo shirt (tucked in)
Dockers shorts (with belt)
Preppy leather deck shoes (no socks)
Ray Ban aviator sunglasses

Enlisted: Gate 2 Street " Playaz" gear
Oakley sunglasses

Retirees (aka Burger King Coffee Club): Ragged stretched out T-shirt
Plaid golfing shorts
Tennis shoes
Black dress socks
Big, huge sunglasses designed to
shield your eyes against solar flares[B]

RE: Retirees. I RESEMBLE that remark! Few minor changes though, I'm a younger old man..raggedy arse shorts, black pocket-T shirt...Birkenstock sandles w/white cotton (CHEAP) sox...photo-grey prescription glasses (to shield your eyes against solar flares!). BurgerKing is de-de-mode here at Yokota...us'ns hang at either a. The terminal (non-alkies) or b. The club (alkies and others) or c. Home in bed...ANY day of the week, ANY hour of the day...ALL categories included. MANY thanx to you current military guys and gals (and those of the past) for helping keep this possible...there IS a seat reserved for YOU!

NOW you know.

-Oki Alumni:old:

[Fire4Effect]

I'll be claiming my seat in 2 years. I've already got my black socks and plaid shorts picked out... :thumbup1:

[ArizonaGirl]

Since I enlisted however, I've noticed that the majority (of Marines, anyways) marry female Marines or girls from the local population surrounding the stations. There's usually not a real big selection, especially if you are in the Camp Lejeune, Twentynine Palms, or Yuma areas (without driving for miles, and most young Marines don't get cars right away.) A LOT(capitalized before I get jumped on) of the girls that hang around the bases and e-clubs in a Marine Corps town are what you might call "barracks rats"- you know, one of those girls who knows where everything is on base, when you get paid, and can read an LES better than an IPAC Gunny.

How funny! Yuma Yummy here (that's what they call us right?) :w00t: I just told my husband it must suck for him that he settled for me when he could have had one of them fancy edjumacated college gals but he still insists I'm number one in his book. LOL. :grin1:

[DoctorP]

How funny! Yuma Yummy here (that's what they call us right?) :w00t: I just told my husband it must suck for him that he settled for me when he could have had one of them fancy edjumacated college gals but he still insists I'm number one in his book. LOL. :grin1:

That's because he know's who "butter's his toast!" :thumbup1:

[Bones]

Retirees (aka Burger King Coffee Club): Ragged stretched out T-shirt
Plaid golfing shorts
Tennis shoes
Black dress socks
Big, huge sunglasses designed to
shield your eyes against solar flares[b]

The second that I read this description, I thought to myself:

"Man this guy has dk pegged.":D

[dk]

Lol, I NEVER wear black socks or tennis shoes. Or plaid golfing shorts... The sunglasses part, however, is true.

I wear jeans (I have one pair of shorts TOTAL), white socks, and VANS shoes or flipflops (no socks).

[dk]

Enlisted: Gate 2 Street " Playaz" gear
Oakley sunglasses
LMAO Yes! :thumbup:

If they're not Oakleys, they're Foakleys!

[Odie]

Stereotypes exist because there is always going to be some portion of the population that will embody them. There are SO many of them that it boggles the mind. We have in this thread a small taste about some military stereotypes and while they certainly apply to some they don't have any more validity than the smelly guy or dirty hippie chick with hairy legs and armpits stereotypes associated with liberals.

But anyway, I can't tell if a person is an officer or enlisted based solely on their clothing or the weight or bearing of the spouse. I've gone to functions at officers clubs and been introduced to many an officer wife who was overweight but I've also met plenty of slender ones. I've also met heavy enlisted wives and slender, ridiculously fit ones.

Furthermore if someone who believes in this sort of stereotype saw a military member who is well dressed with a slender attractive wife how could they ever know if their assumption was correct without actually walking up to them and asking them? I think that believing the stereotype would stop them from inquiring, that and the fact that it would be rather rude. Although some people never measure themselves or their statements out of fear of being rude.

My husband is enlisted personnel, he doesn't wear clothing from gate 2. He dresses rather conservatively without looking like he belongs to the country club. I have 2 B.A degrees and while I could certainly stand to loose 15lbs I have yet to have my comportment in public criticized.

Stereotypes are a naturally born out of humans desire to categorize things, the sad thing about them is that when we for whatever reason seek to validate one we open the door to the validation of all stereotypes.

[stract]

I don't have anything thought-provoking to provide to this thread, I just wanted to throw out there that I think "dependopotomus" is a hilarious word.

[-Rudel-]

I'd prefer to stay low-key when out town....besides the damn haircuts.

After all, it's an anti-terrorism thing to do! Blend it with the crowd. Look how they dress.

[SGT_OKINAWA]

Can you spot the difference between enlisted and officers...

Officers say:

"Hey break it up, where is your I.D.?"

Enlisted say:

"Dude! Fight!, get your camera phone out!"

Hope this helps ... :grin1:

Peace!:D

[DoctorP]

Please refrain from insulting other members or insinuating that one has nuts dangling from their chin. Unless of course you have photographic proof of such allegations. Even if such were the case we would rather you just keep such things to you self.

Photographic proof?

http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/Ballsonchin.jpg

:ohmy:

sorry...loved this exchange, and just didn't want to see it buried...at least not just yet.

[Jrocka83]

How funny! Yuma Yummy here (that's what they call us right?) :w00t: I just told my husband it must suck for him that he settled for me when he could have had one of them fancy edjumacated college gals but he still insists I'm number one in his book. LOL. :grin1:

Judging from your avatar, wheres the pics? why arn't you in the JU hotties thread?

[Sex Wax]

Judging from your avatar, wheres the pics? why arn't you in the JU hotties thread?

Woah...kinda harsh dude, maybe she has nice tits, but a ugly face. Don't be so judgemental. God took care of the ugly chicks (butter faces) by creating beer and night. If you can't drink her pretty, just drink till it gets dark.

[0341isa]

... when they are out in town in civilian attire?

What points gives them away?

its in a million things. Hell yes you can.

First thing honestly is the Hair. Enlisted guys carry some version of the mil reg. Commisioned guys are 'within regs" but its almost always very "college boy-esque" kinda hairstyle

[Spanican]

Naw,
You guys have it all wrong because when you see a dude in sandals with the back strap, yeah that's an officer.

The white and black socks with sandals, yeah, that's an officer. When you see them in pleated khaki shorts above their knees, yeah that's an officer.

The goofy dude with big ears and glasses with the hot ass arm candy, yeah that's a pilot.

The last highlighter, the guy with the tucked in hawaiian shirt and the brown/black braided belt.

[Blues]

I dont know about the rest but fighter pilots are usually spot on. Very athletic looking, dickheadish attitude, and very tall. There was one general I saw that was so tall I thought I was a midget. :scared:

[Oceandreamer]

Dang jrock! talk about resurrecting an old thread!

Last post was a year ago

There is a definite noticeable difference
-can't determine if it is arrogance or confidence

Kind of like when you go into HR and know that no straight laced military is in there if any, it is easy going. (maybe THAT is why JU meets up there, not the meat market of G2 and it is a laid back kinda bar) Officers are up tight, gotta set the example, unless you go into the O Club on a Friday night, that is when you can see them just a trashed and stupid as the E-2 on G2.

[Spadesy]

I dont know about the rest but fighter pilots are usually spot on. Very athletic looking, dickheadish attitude, and very tall. There was one general I saw that was so tall I thought I was a midget. :scared:

Most of the pilots I met were laid back and chill...hard to tell the difference between how they are as Marines and how they probably were as college guys. :thumbup1:

[Haru-sa]

I'm enlisted and my wife isn't fat.

yet.........

[Trail]

I dont know about the rest but fighter pilots are usually spot on. Very athletic looking, dickheadish attitude, and very tall. There was one general I saw that was so tall I thought I was a midget. :scared:

There a few who don't conform to that standard. :D For the post part, the hub has said all the fighter pilots are mostly nice. There are few who let the flight suit get their head but the are few and far between. I actually had more issues with the pilot's WIVES! The enlisted maintenance wives would often have bake sales, burger burns, burrito sales, etc. and teh pilot wives would always look down on us if we were girl scouts peddling cookies. Sorry but we were just there trying to raise money for the squadron. I am so glad the reorg. didn't happen and that Mr.Trail switched jobs.

[socalheart]

yet.........
LMAO :D sorry, but that's just funny in general...

I knew a pilot who wasn't super tall, maybe 5'8". I think it depends on what kind of plane he flies maybe. He was really cute and dressed typically officerly. He also had the typical cute family. :rolleyes: Typical... heh. On the other hand, I've known officers who dress in t-shirts and jeans even in public. They look just like the rest then. :shrug:

[Spadesy]

My the girl of my old boss is Thai, had a pretty bangin' figure until they were together for about 7 months...I don't think all that American food did her well, got kinda pudgy.

[Trail]

Naw,
You guys have it all wrong because when you see a dude in sandals with the back strap, yeah that's an officer.

The white and black socks with sandals, yeah, that's an officer. When you see them in pleated khaki shorts above their knees, yeah that's an officer.

The goofy dude with big ears and glasses with the hot ass arm candy, yeah that's a pilot.

The last highlighter, the guy with the tucked in hawaiian shirt and the brown/black braided belt.

Maybe that's why the hub get's called "Sir" all the time when it's not due. The grey hair helps too though. :D

[socalheart]

The enlisted maintenance wives would often have bake sales, burger burns, burrito sales, etc. ... Mr.Trail switched jobs.

What?! :scared: does that mean no more bake sales??? :crying:

[Trail]

What?! :scared: does that mean no more bake sales??? :crying:

Nope. I haven't participated in a bake sale since I had the baby. If you want, I can bake what ever you want (within reason) and you can just pay me directly. :D lol

[CJmc_craken]

What's really interesting is the difference in female officer and enlisted dress to me...

[Haru-sa]

that's a wild one. know one O that you'd never guess wasn't a LCpl barracks toy, while her best friend looks, acts and dresses like the chick from Legally Blonde...

[Zanpa]

Dang jrock! talk about resurrecting an old thread!

Last post was a year ago

There is a definite noticeable difference
-can't determine if it is arrogance or confidence

Kind of like when you go into HR and know that no straight laced military is in there if any, it is easy going. (maybe THAT is why JU meets up there, not the meat market of G2 and it is a laid back kinda bar) Officers are up tight, gotta set the example, unless you go into the O Club on a Friday night, that is when you can see them just a trashed and stupid as the E-2 on G2.


E-2 on G2.....sounds like an thrashmetal album name

[slickmetal]

E-2 on G2.....sounds like an thrashmetal album name

(T)Sgt Z..

Have a safe trip you lucky SOB...have fun.

[0341isa]

Also, officers do not go 'overboard' on tatoos? I don't think I have ever seen spiderwebs on an officer's elbow.

They seem to have the ability to express themselves in other ways and exhibit more self control when it comes to inking themselves.

that has nothign whatsoever to do with self control. Getting tats is not a display of any lack of self control. It is simply a form of self expression. THe reason for the Corps at least that you see lees officer with visisble tatoo work, is that the Corps has a stance on tattoo which they enforce more strictly on the officer side. THe Marine Corps doesn't want officers with lots of tattoo because it doesnt fit in with the preppy all american Image they want to promote. They can be selective enough to make an issue about it with Os because there are less spaces to fill compared to enlisted.

As for the idea that officers dont act as boisterous as enlisted, also a total fallacy. The idea is simply that you wont see it in mixed company. As a position of authority, officers do not get all crazy IN FRONT of the enlisted. When they are all with each other, they get wild too. Just like Staff NCOs dont normally get stupid drunk in front of their junior Marines, but they will get wild if its just them. etc etc.

[0341isa]

now there are some differences you WILL see between O and E that are usually a result of that college experience.

One thing is that the easiest difference in IMO to spot is the hair. Officers usually have decidely more mainstream, and more expensive haircuts. At least, most Os have an actual fade as opposd to the barracks, bowl, or my wife cuts my hair thing.

[Kikai-no-Kami]

I would tend to agree, however if they start to open their mouths and talk, it usually is to me at least, pretty easy to figure out the Junior officers and Enlisted.


I'm just not gonna openly bash one side or another, but i do agree with muku, as soon as they open their mouth, whether it be to say something, or to pour alcohol in. The latter is what usually gets them caught.