BUSH AIN'T "gone away"...yet.

[Oki alumni]

A very good friend of mine pointed out this to me, and I've just ran across the full length video. Bush is STILL up to "dirty tricks" as usual, while the public is occupied with replacing him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/09/08/VI2008090800590.html
-Oki Alumni:old: (What we DON'T know could effing KILL US!)

[vvloc]

Sept. 9: One measure of the Bush administration's efforts to hide the human toll of the war in Iraq is a recent news photograph of commercial airline passengers peering down from their windows as a flag-draped coffin unexpectedly emerges from the cargo bay. Their faces register surprise and grave wariness at this encounter with war's ultimate price.

The Pentagon has worked hard to make sure that such moments of truth are rare.

During the Vietnam War, photographs of the coffins of military casualties were routinely permitted when the dead arrived home. But a photo ban was imposed during the 1991 Gulf war, and the Bush administration has aggressively extended it. The result is that the return of more than 4,000 dead Americans from Iraq and Afghanistan has been treated as a virtual state secret.

Rare photographs of arrival ceremonies have emerged only through lawsuits and drawn-out freedom-of-information struggles.

A worthy proposal that would lift the veil is drawing bipartisan support in the House. It would require the Pentagon to allow journalists access to commemoration services and, most pointedly, the arrival ceremonies for flag-draped coffins coming home at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware.

The measure in no way interferes with the right of grieving families to bar news cover- age of interments. The sponsor, Representative Walter Jones, Republican of North Carolina, focuses instead on the moment of homecoming and honor that has been denied the nation's notice.

"I hope that anyone who sees a flag-draped coffin will remember this individual gave his or her life for this country and respect and revere that sacrifice," he explained this month.

Congress should approve his bill. As the debate over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan continues, the dead keep journeying home. Proper attention and reverence should be paid, in plain sight.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/08/opinion/edshroud.php

[Asshat]

The Washington Post has never been friendly to Bush. However, Bush with his statements, signing statements, (How many of you Bible-Thumping Republicans know what those are?) and handling of this war have made him a despot.

He most definitely NOT a patriot, and most definitely does NOT appreciate or understand the sacrifice Americans have made over his dumbass.

[Jazz]

Sorry to be off topic but did anyone see Bush giving a speech last night? I did and I've never seen him look so coked up, drunk or both, not sure. He looked like he'd been on a binger(sp) though, maybe just tired....

[Oki alumni]

Sept. 9: One measure of the Bush administration's efforts to hide the human toll of the war in Iraq is a recent news photograph of commercial airline passengers peering down from their windows as a flag-draped coffin unexpectedly emerges from the cargo bay. Their faces register surprise and grave wariness at this encounter with war's ultimate price.

The Pentagon has worked hard to make sure that such moments of truth are rare.

During the Vietnam War, photographs of the coffins of military casualties were routinely permitted when the dead arrived home. But a photo ban was imposed during the 1991 Gulf war, and the Bush administration has aggressively extended it. The result is that the return of more than 4,000 dead Americans from Iraq and Afghanistan has been treated as a virtual state secret.

Rare photographs of arrival ceremonies have emerged only through lawsuits and drawn-out freedom-of-information struggles.

A worthy proposal that would lift the veil is drawing bipartisan support in the House. It would require the Pentagon to allow journalists access to commemoration services and, most pointedly, the arrival ceremonies for flag-draped coffins coming home at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware.

The measure in no way interferes with the right of grieving families to bar news cover- age of interments. The sponsor, Representative Walter Jones, Republican of North Carolina, focuses instead on the moment of homecoming and honor that has been denied the nation's notice.

"I hope that anyone who sees a flag-draped coffin will remember this individual gave his or her life for this country and respect and revere that sacrifice," he explained this month.

Congress should approve his bill. As the debate over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan continues, the dead keep journeying home. Proper attention and reverence should be paid, in plain sight.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/08/opinion/edshroud.php

GWB only wants a "scorecard". He does NOT want to see the players, and feels that no one else should either. The "injured players" of the game should be quickly, quietly and secretly carried off from the field of play so as not to upset the spectators and score keepers.

How many flag draped coffins this week, George? How many this month? How many barrels of oil have been assured delivery by these "payments"? Please excuse me for just a moment...I think I'm going to PUKE!

-Oki Alumni:old: (And McCain't promises us more of the same?????????? R U effing NUTS??????????)

[vvloc]

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=33qQeIo0cKM

[Asshat]

[QUOTE=Oki alumni;147683]GWB only wants a "scorecard". He does NOT want to see the players, and feels that no one else should either. [QUOTE]

I firmly believe he does not care about the bodies personally. His main concern is that the rest of us get off the "Support the Troops" by killing them bandwagon and get on the "Support the Troops" by bringing them home bandwagon.

[vvloc]

So with danny hopelessly mired in a zero for 147 slump, will he finally post something "useful" or just slink away with his tail between his legs, AGAIN?

[vvloc]

"The problem is that all too many religious types in America have come to believe that the U.S. government is special. They honestly believe that it operates as an agent of God. It is not.

Suppose the Russia government, rather than the U.S. government, had done everything to the Iraqi people that the U.S. government has done.

Suppose it had been the Russians who had delivered weapons of mass destruction to Saddam Hussein.

Suppose it had been the Russians who had intentionally destroyed Iraq’s water-treatment plants with the intent of spreading illnesses among the Iraqi people.

Suppose it had been the Russians who had enforced a brutal regime of sanctions against the Iraqi people for more than a decade, contributing to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children.

Suppose it had been the Russian ambassador to the United Nations who had proclaimed that the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children from the sanctions had been “worth it.”

Suppose it had been the Russians who had invaded and occupied Iraq, killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, causing millions more to go into exile, and sending the entire nation into conflict and chaos.

Suppose it had been the Russians who had murdered, tortured, and sexually abused Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib prison.

Suppose it had been the Russians who had proclaimed that they had done it all for the benefit of the Iraqi people, not for the sake of installing a Russian-approved puppet into power.

What would have been the reaction of many U.S. Christians?"

http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2008-09-09.asp

"Yet, since it is the U.S. government that has done all these things, it’s all okay because everything the U.S. government does to foreigners is holy given its exalted position as God’s agent on earth."

[Oki alumni]

George "Quisling" W. Bush
John "Quisling" McCain't
Sara "Quisling" Palin

Tirds...errr..birds or a feather flock together. Germany circa mid 30's REVISITED!

-Oki Alumni:old:

[Asshat]

[QUOTE=vvloc;148055]"The problem is that all too many religious types in America have come to believe that the U.S. government is special. They honestly believe that it operates as an agent of God. It is not.

Suppose the Russia government,::::::QUOTE]

You just described the policy of ethnic cleansing the US used to rid the country of the "red skin." Yet 100 years later, the US went to war with Germany for doing the same thing. 50 years later, it goes to war in Boznia for the same thing.

It's not just religious types VV that feel this way about the US Government. It is the type of person who either harbors feelings of ethnic superiority disguised as National Pride, religious or not, who supports ANY government which will pander to his "needs." That is the same the world over.

[vvloc]

"Bush, Satterfield observed, tolerated no doubt. His words and actions constantly reminded those around him that he was in charge. He was the decider. As a result, he often made biting jokes or asides to colleagues

"Bush had little patience for briefings. 'Speed it up. This isn't my first rodeo,' he would often say to those making presentations. It was difficult to brief him because he would interject his own narrative, questions or off-putting jokes.

Tim Rutten writes in a Los Angeles Times book review: "Bush, in Woodward's view, is the worst kind of wartime president: controlling and disengaged, all at once. Worse, he frequently is not only detached from unpleasant or inconvenient facts but is also positively hostile to those who recite them.

Robert Dreyfus writes in The Nation about what he found most astonishing in Woodward's book: "I'm talking about the dangerously sycophantic advisers surrounding Bush, the ones who stroked the ego of a know-nothing president as The Decider doubled-down on his failed war in Iraq.

"During 2006, Woodward makes clear, the overwhelming consensus, both among the public and in Washington was to end the war, to start the drawdown of U.S. forces. That was the belief of General George Casey, the U.S. commander in Iraq, General John Abizaid, the CentCom commander, and nearly all of the uniformed military. It was the view of the Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group, the State Department, and members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. In 487 pages, Woodward details how all of them were steamrolled. Consider this: had they not been rolled over, today, two years later, the war would largely be over.

"The picture of Bush that emerges is not a flattering one. He is portrayed as a man convinced of his utter righteousness. 'Not one doubt,' says Bush. And: 'We're killin' 'em. We're killin' 'em all.' Yet at the same time, Bush is blissfully detached, relying on Hadley for everything. His decision to order the surge, taken in November-December, 2006, was a tough one, Bush told Woodward. 'Now, this is a period of time where I've got, I don't how many, holiday receptions.'"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/09/10/BL2008091001431_3.html

[Oki alumni]

Dick-tater Bush bullys up again. Republican "foreign policy" seems to include NO respect for ANY nation on the face of the earth EXCEPT the U.S.A. If I were a leader in Japan right now, I'd be VERY leery of what this flipping chowder-head might do! Given the relative well being of Japan, and the floundering economy in the United States, he could VERY WELL decide that Japan "poses a possible threat" to the well being of the U.S. After all, there is ALREADY a sizable U.S. military force inside the borders of Japan. Again, this is PURE SPECULATION and TOTAL CONJECTURE on my part. Just a "what if" kind of scenario, and not meant to upset anyone.

NOW...the article referenced below is what has been reported as happening to ANOTHER "sovereign nation" of which George especially...and by implication, his "Dick" (Cheney) have no respect.

http://www.newsmeat.com/news/meat.php?articleId=32348290&channelId=2951&buyerId=newsmeatcom&buid=3281 NOTE: A similar article is included on the front page of the September 13, 2008, (Pacific edition of) the newspaper "Stars and Stripes"®...all rights respected.

You pubbers want MORE OF THIS SH1T? Ye GODS...Pakistan has KNOWN nuclear weapon capability!!!...not speculative "WMD's". Personally, I wouldn't be plucking around with 'em!

-Oki Alumni:old: (and :scared:!) Get the idiot OFF the damn "throne"!

Disclaimer: "The views and opinions expressed in MY posts are MY own, and do not (necessarily) reflect the views and opinions of the Department Of Defense, the United States Government, the owner of this website, or any OTHER entity."

[danielwagner]

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=33qQeIo0cKM




Well, Mr. K.O. is sorta O.K. in a pinch, I’m sure he will be a headliner on his own show someday but Jon Stewart is a much wittier and enjoyable comedian to watch.

Could you post some of Jon's shtick?

[vvloc]

Someone has been dipping into the merlot again:rolleyes:.

[danielwagner]

[QUOTE=Oki alumni;148663] ...You pubbers want MORE OF THIS SH1T? Ye GODS...Pakistan has KNOWN nuclear weapon capability!!!...not speculative "WMD's". Personally, I wouldn't be plucking around with 'em!

Isn't the future, yet to be ordained President of the World B.H. Obama gonna lead the invasion of Pakistan to capture that dastardly law breaker Bin Laden?
Didn't he promise he would?

[danielwagner]

Someone has been dipping into the merlot again:rolleyes:.

VVloc, why not? It's good for the heart (and Spirits). Only catch is you have to have one.:rolleyes:

[vvloc]

VVloc, why not? It's good for the heart (and Spirits). Only catch is you have to have one.:rolleyes:

So then we'll try again: How do you square mcsame's infidelitieS with your cockamamie "sanctity of life" agenda?

[danielwagner]

So then we'll try again: How do you square mcsame's infidelitieS with your cockamamie "sanctity of life" agenda?


Well I suggested procreation but you didn't get that one. So...are you suggesting that birth control may have been used? Is that what you're trying to get at? What is your interest in Sen. McCain’s ancient dalliances anyway? Are you just going VV-loco?

[RODSCALIP5]

What's funny is nothing will change when Bush is gone, no matter who is in power. This isnt about religion like alot of people liketo think..

[okisteve]

What's funny is nothing will change when Bush is gone, no matter who is in power. This isnt about religion like alot of people liketo think..

It isn't exactly about religion, but it is about American projection of power into the Middle East. We could have had $100+ a barrel oil without the bloodshed.

[RODSCALIP5]

It isn't exactly about religion, but it is about American projection of power into the Middle East. We could have had $100+ a barrel oil without the bloodshed.

Very True, as I recall gas was way cheaper in 2003. But again, it's about money and the rich getting richer. Bush can be called stupid and all kinds of other names, but the fact remains that he and all other world leaders are richer today than 8 years ago. In the end thats all that really matters to them.

[vvloc]

What is your interest in Sen. McCain’s ancient dalliances anyway?

Although the subject would seem to be mcsame's infidelity it really concerns danny's dalliances with T R U T H!

[vvloc]

Well I suggested procreation but you didn't get that one.

Oh, I see - LOL - funny, really funny - NOT.

A lifetime of believing that deam martin is a consummate comedian will certainly warp ANYONE's sense of humor, even danny's

When you suggested that procreation was that an intimation that you are the creation of mcsame's procreation?

Nipping on the merlot morning, noon, and night will do that to you mr. elitist:rolleyes:

[Oki alumni]

[QUOTE=Oki alumni;148663] ...You pubbers want MORE OF THIS SH1T? Ye GODS...Pakistan has KNOWN nuclear weapon capability!!!...not speculative "WMD's". Personally, I wouldn't be plucking around with 'em!

Isn't the future, yet to be ordained President of the World B.H. Obama gonna lead the invasion of Pakistan to capture that dastardly law breaker Bin Laden?
Didn't he promise he would?

Danny, with logic like yours', I'm left wondering just how long the asylum allows you to play unattended on the office computer?

Obama DID mention "TO the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan", and not INTO and OVER the border...which truly pissed off the leaders of (yet ANOTHER) middle eastern sovereign nation. Would YOU be happy if I decided to come to your place, and shat in YOUR front yard? How about wiping out a member or two of YOUR family? Collateral damage, ya understand!!! Taking a line from Wayne's World®© of some years back...."ARE YOU MENTAL????":scratchchin:

ARE YOU EVEN VOTING???????? I'm not asking WHO you're voting for, just IF you're even voting. Straight answer (again) PLEASE!

-Oki Alumni:old:

[jrademacher]

ever notice how Obama says Pakistan different than most americans? He says it almost out of respect as in a native country or strong affiliation.

[Oki alumni]

GWB and the pubbers...always willing to send YOU, the military of OUR country...into harm's way yet again. Those of you who are "vulnerable" to being deployed, WATCH what your orders say. You COULD see Pakistan mentioned, or just a blanket type phrase (those who've had orders to the AOR will know what I'm talking about).

The Bushwhacker, in the final (thank GOD) days of his "reign" shows his dementia, or the effects of being a "dry drunK", yet again. National Public Radio (NPR) has this article for you to read, and you can LISTEN to the broadcast...no special downloads needed. Just go to: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94575902.

BUT...as danny-boy and plain palin would tell ya, it's just "the will of God"...............NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing:

-Oki Alumni:old:

[Oki alumni]

ever notice how Obama says Pakistan different than most americans? He says it almost out of respect as in a native country or strong affiliation.

Probably just that you're not all that familiar with education. Ignorance can be forgiven, stupidity on the other hand, is most often self-inflicted, and sometimes fatal. "ever notice" how OFTEN McCain't lies on his political advertisements?

[Bones]

I won't argue with most of you out there, but when it comes down to numbers?:scratchchin:

I'm pretty sure that Bush was asking for the numbers of enemy combatants killed, as compared to our own. The media has been keeping a running tally of our people killed, as opposed to those who we've fired at and killed.

If the number of Iraqi's killed since the start of the of the war were to be numbered, the number of Iraqi dead attributed to local insurgents, or outside involvement by agent's of al-Qaida, would prove to be significantly higher.

Bones

[Oki alumni]

I won't argue with most of you out there, but when it comes down to numbers?:scratchchin:

I'm pretty sure that Bush was asking for the numbers of enemy combatants killed, as compared to our own. The media has been keeping a running tally of our people killed, as opposed to those who we've fired at and killed.

If the number of Iraqi's killed since the start of the of the war were to be numbered, the number of Iraqi dead attributed to local insurgents, or outside involvement by agent's of al-Qaida, would prove to be significantly higher.

Bones

Bones, that's gonna be REAL difficult...the "enemy combatants" part...ya see...BUSH thinks that EVERYONE killed who ISN'T an USA'ian, are "enemy combants"!, so your all inclusive second paragraph just ABOUT sums it up.

Let's not forget to mention WHO does the body-counts. Shades of Viet-Nam! "The PRES wants a BIG body count, so everybody just add 4 or 5 more to what you actually got. I'll multiply that by 8 or 9 when we get back, and THAT's our "official body count"! Will we start leaving the ace of spades between the teeth of those killed? Maybe cutting off an ear? History has a "funny way" of repeating itself.:thumbdown::dead:

-Oki Alumni:old:

[Asshat]

ever notice how Obama says Pakistan different than most americans? He says it almost out of respect as in a native country or strong affiliation.

Pakistan has been an ally of the US for many years. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060304-4.html) Long enough to help them out with nuclear weapon development anyway.

Or have you drank so much of the koolaide that you only believe what conservative Christian lobbys tell you to believe?

[Bones]

As posted by okia:

Let's not forget to mention WHO does the body-counts. Shades of Viet-Nam! "The PRES wants a BIG body count, so everybody just add 4 or 5 more to what you actually got. I'll multiply that by 8 or 9 when we get back, and THAT's our "official body count"! Will we start leaving the ace of spades between the teeth of those killed? Maybe cutting off an ear? History has a "funny way" of repeating itself.

Good response, but as I was over there back in the 90's. The "Son's of Iraq", came about because a lot of the people who wanted to enter our theater of responsibility, felt it beneath them to be touched by a foreigner.

Since then, al-Qiada, has spent a lot of time recruiting female suicide bombers. They can not be searched by male border guards according to their religion. Thus the rise of "Daughters of Iraq". Women, can search women to their hearts content.

So I would say that the people over there have more confidence in our being their, as compared to other factions. Somehow, they are getting tired of the explosions being delivered by their local friends, and I can't blame them.

Also, I'm fairly certain that you can not compare this war, to anything we have fought before.

[Asshat]

Also, I'm fairly certain that you can not compare this war, to anything we have fought before.

Fomenting American political idiology on an unwilling populace is a fair comparison.

Fighting Iranian forces in Iraq rings familiar with fighting Russian proxy in Nam.

A populace that thinks we kill too many civilians in the prosecution of the war sounds familiar.

And of course the middle class fighting wars dictated by the elite is there.

[Bones]

As posted by AH:

Fomenting American political idiology on an unwilling populace is a fair comparison.

Fighting Iranian forces in Iraq rings familiar with fighting Russian proxy in Nam.

A populace that thinks we kill too many civilians in the prosecution of the war sounds familiar.

And of course the middle class fighting wars dictated by the elite is there.

True, but his is a different battlefield. We are used to fighting a people in uniform.

When we used to attack, our enemies stood out. They had a national defense system in place. The new fighters have little money, won't face us in the field, inspire us to waste countless dollars on self-defense, as has been proven by 9/11.

They have made their attack, and sat back to see what happens next.

We've wasted billions of dollars trying to keep ourselves safe, but we still get a "C" grade, when tested, to prevent even worse disasters from happening.

The enemy still does not have the amount of money to face us in the field.

Yet we are wasting our money needlessly.

This new enemy, is not wasting any money. They started this war under the assumption that their enemy, being us, doesn't have the guts to look at casualties incurred. And it has proven to be correct. Enough of our people dying, and we get upset.

They, don't care. They have a mechanism in place, their religion, which provides them with an endless supply of weapons. Suicide Bombers.

They have patience, and if it takes decades to reach their aim, so be it.

All we seem to be concerned about, is the new I-Pod from Apple.

Unless people wake up quickly, "they" will win.:army:

[Asshat]

All that is very true Bones. I suppose the "war" hasn't changed much, but the battle field has. And as you point out, it has got pretty shitty.

Unfortunately, this tactic forces the warfighter to consider all the enemy. That has far-reaching problems...it is hard to win minds and hearts.

[Oki alumni]

As posted by AH:



True, but his is a different battlefield. We are used to fighting a people in uniform.

When we used to attack, our enemies stood out. They had a national defense system in place. The new fighters have little money, won't face us in the field, inspire us to waste countless dollars on self-defense, as has been proven by 9/11.

They have made their attack, and sat back to see what happens next.

We've wasted billions of dollars trying to keep ourselves safe, but we still get a "C" grade, when tested, to prevent even worse disasters from happening.

The enemy still does not have the amount of money to face us in the field.

Yet we are wasting our money needlessly.

This new enemy, is not wasting any money. They started this war under the assumption that their enemy, being us, doesn't have the guts to look at casualties incurred. And it has proven to be correct. Enough of our people dying, and we get upset.

They, don't care. They have a mechanism in place, their religion, which provides them with an endless supply of weapons. Suicide Bombers.

They have patience, and if it takes decades to reach their aim, so be it.

All we seem to be concerned about, is the new I-Pod from Apple.

Unless people wake up quickly, "they" will win.:army:

Except for a couple of minor changes, you're right back in 'Nam. The enemy did NOT have uniforms, unless you call the black pajamas, and clothes worn by the general population "uniforms". NOW...the higher rankers had uniforms, but very seldom made it to the battlegrounds...SOME exceptions...Giap for instance. Jungle instead of sand. Religion wasn't a MAJOR player, but it was still A "PLAYER" none the less.

Pretty much all else is repeat, Bones.

-Oki Alumni:old:

[vvloc]

ever notice how Obama says Pakistan different than most americans? He says it almost out of respect as in a native country or strong affiliation.

"Barack Obama pronounces "Pakistan" correctly, with a soft "a," just like a lot of people who know what they're talking about, including Gen. David Petraeus. Apparently, having completely run out of compelling policy arguments to make, some high-profile conservatives have decided to make this their latest campaign hobbyhorse."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/right-wingers-mock-obamas_n_133111.html

[Oki alumni]

"Barack Obama pronounces "Pakistan" correctly, with a soft "a," just like a lot of people who know what they're talking about, including Gen. David Petraeus. Apparently, having completely run out of compelling policy arguments to make, some high-profile conservatives have decided to make this their latest campaign hobbyhorse."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/right-wingers-mock-obamas_n_133111.html

Yet MORE amusement from the desperation of the despicable and defeated, hehehe, sounds a LOT like Lush RIMburger to me! With all the self inflicted wounds that the pubbers ALREADY have given themselves, you'd think they WOULD try to control their mouths...but that's an impossibility...isn't it? Probably due to the foot contained therein, holding the aperture open a tad.

-Oki Alumni:old:

[vvloc]

Hold your breathe - he ain't gone (nor done yet):



Nov 02, 2008 13:16 EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration must give to a federal court documents related to government wiretapping of domestic communications without a warrant after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to a recent court order.

U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy signed the order Friday requiring the U.S. Justice Department to provide the court for private review certain documents that were sought in lawsuits filed by the civil liberties groups.

Kennedy ordered the administration to provide the documents from the White House Office of Legal Counsel by Nov. 17, and said he will review them in private to see if their release would endanger national security.

The department argued that it was serving as the attorney for the administration and thus attorney-client privilege would allow it to keep classified information from public viewing, but Kennedy said its arguments were too vague.

"The attorney-client privilege is not necessarily the means for protecting this information," the order said. "Without more information, the court cannot conclude that the attorney-client privilege applies."

Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman, said: "We're reviewing the opinion and will respond appropriately in court."

http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=440104

[vvloc]

"Let's quit comparing Clinton's sexual escapades with Bush's torturing and destruction of the Constitution. There is no equivalency"

"Dowd argues that Clinton dirtied the White House by having oral sex and liking hot tubs and, likewise, George Bush also dirtied it by destroying the Constitution, torturing people, invading and destroying another country based on false pretenses and spying on American citizens (and, just by the way, Bush and Cheney weren't "making torture and domestic spying legal"; they were doing those things in violation of the law).
The stain Bill Clinton left on Monica Lewinsky's dress isn't remotely comparable to the stain George Bush and Dick Cheney have left on the Constitution, our political values and our national image -- to say nothing of the indelible bloodstains on their hands.

To this day, David Broder still insists that Bill Clinton should have been forced to resign over the sex he had with Monica Lewinsky, whereas nothing that George Bush did merits removal from office or even resignation, and especially not criminal investigation and prosecution. . ."

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/06/dowd/