Okinawan Syndrome?

[coldnoodles]

Have you heard of the Okinawa Syndrome, AKA: WGAOS (Wah GAY OS) = Whats going around Okinawa Syndrome?

If you take your child to Camp Lester Pediatrics the doctors will tell you that your child has "Whats going around Okinawa" And tell you to make a follow-up either for the next day or 3 days from then. And when you go to the follow-up appointment you will most likely be seeing someone else who will tell you the same thing. Well, there is nothing we can do for you "your child has whats going around Okinawa". Please make an appointment for tomorow, and then you end up going there everyday.

Then you have the nurse and doctors complaining that you are there too much. Then you have a nurse who always says: "Mrs. XXXXX your kids are always sick, or Mrs. XXXXX, your kids were here last week why do you think you need to be seen this time? So when you can't get around the annoying nurse, and the doctors have no clue how to be an actual doctor, I have ended up taking my kids to the ER to find out they have pneumonia or a severe ear infection. And then the ER questions you why you didn't take them to Pediatrics.

What is going around Okinawa? Basically, they don't know whats wrong with your child, so they use that lame excuse on everyone.

In all this, the doctors NEVER noted in the medical records that they requested the parents for a follow-up! So that makes you look bad and them look good.

Do you have the Okinawan Syndrome?

[socalheart]

They probably think most dependent moms always think their kids are sick at the first sign of a sniffle. I can't wait until the first time a pediatrician tells me my kids isn't sick, but the ER says the kid was really sick. I will tell the s.o.b. off in no fewer than 100 words. :D

[TheNoNamedOne]

Man, coldnoodles! Just reading that got me ticked and frustrated. I could imagine how that could really get to someone. Horrid!

Next time, you should ask if the doctors and nurses have been infected with the HUAS virus?

Head Up Ass Syndrome

[coldnoodles]

My 3yr old lost her hearing from ear infections, thanks to the military doctors who say its not an ear infection when it is! Her first yr of life she lived on antibiotics, they kept telling me she had to be 1yrs old before they can put tubes in. When we came here to Okinawa, on her 1st b-day, we took her in the following monday the wannabe dr. said she didn't have tubes in, but had lots of wax, gave her ear wax removal, my daughter turns blue, and she said OH, I must have put too many drops in (that was at kadena). I ended up bringing her in daily, always told nothing was wrong. Then I ended up bringing her to the ER, where she had a serious ear infection. Here she was 1yrs old and never said mama or dada.

We switched our care to Peds. Lester, the usual excuse would be well, her ear are not screaming at me, they are red, but not screaming so she doesn't have ear infection. She had ear infections non stop again, in Aug 2005 I was told if she fails a hearing test she will be re-tubed. She got her 2nd set of tubes in Aug. 2005 and again Feb. 2006. The hearing tests are not thorough, quick ones telling me she can hear in both ears but not sure which one!

July 3 she had right tube taken out, full of wax - he just yanked it out. On the 4th we flew back to the states. I got all my kids to see real doctors for diagnoses. One therapists was really interested in my 3yr old. I couldn't get a referral for her cuz we have services here. So this therapists changed her flight to a later flight and saw my daughter for FREE! I paid out of pocket for a full hearing test to find out she has mild hearing loss on left side (with tube)and borderline hearing loss on right side. Saw the therapist to find out what I have been telling the doctors here, she doesn't understand anything. Here this therapy said she wish she would have met us sooner, she would have offered free speech services for her while we were on vacation - 2hrs a day, 2 times a week. I gave her all my paperwork from EDIS here, and she thought it was a joke, nothing on it made sense. And the speech therapist she had here would tell us, she played with kids, she watched her, she talks alot (really she mumbles). Here she starts child find this year and we were told she won't be getting speech therapy, she doesn't need it. The therapist back home, said she would benefit from a hearing aid, so she can hear, and she also wanted to do brain stem testing on her, she got it waved but the guy was on vacation. I asked the dr.'s here about the hearing aid and was told she can hear there is nothing wrong with her. :cursing:

My almost 2yr old, here they say is a picky eater and nothing is wrong with her but she is very anemic. I had her tested at a feeding clinic, and she has a sensory disorder she only eats rice, udon noodles at Jusco, rice cookies, cheese pizza @ pizza in, Mcdonalds chicken nuggets and french fries, and soy milk. She just started eating banana's. The feeding clinic gave me a 6mo feeding diet plan and to email them when concerns.

For my 11yr old she has had the same symptoms for 11yrs, in the states she was seen all the time, she is on volume 5 for medical records, but moving here the last base lost all her medical records. I made the mistake bringing her into the ER 1 night, peds. mis-diagnosed her. If they would have told me they didn't have any of her medical records I would have made copies of all the one's I have. After my big headache with Peds. Clinic at Lester I wrote my 9 page complaint letter. Changed their care to family practice, had excellent service, until we came back from vacation!

My 11yr old was seen by a peds. rheum back home, and they think its Lupus, here this dr. ordered more tests for repeat labs from 2003 (full workup)and ordered CT scans. I got the lab work done there on AF base. The dr. here said the lab work and CT scans are not needed. He was pissed that I got her lab work there. Here he kept telling me there is no need to repeat labs from 2003. He won't do the CT scans, but the dr. here say she is too healthy, she gets good grades in school, and only sick people have Lupus. Here this doc told me not to bring my kids in again unless they are very sick. You don't have a headache for a few hours, and have a normal day. You are either sick or you are not. :cursing: Here I was pissed. I told my husband I know enough to take care of my own kids. I have the hospital back home sending me info daily on how to help my little ones, and what to watch for and how to treat my 11yr old. I won't take my kids back to the doctor here. I rather pay out of pocket for a Japanese dr. My daughter was pissed the stuff he said you don't say in front of a child. It stressed her out, she had the usual symptoms/flare up. :cursing: My daughter will go to school with a severe headache or a very high fever, she doesn't want people to know she is sick or feeling good. She is the only person who wears a winter jacket in summer shivering.

If you know any good Japanese clinics or dr.'s let me know.

[socalheart]

I'm only familiar with Seventh Day Adventist medical center down near Urasoe. I grew up going there as a kid and don't recall any problems medically. Be sure Tricare will cover care given there. We're between a rock and a hard place while stationed overseas. You're always able to talk to your 1ST SGT if it's a big issue for you. He or she may know your options better. Take care.

[coldnoodles]

I'm only familiar with Seventh Day Adventist medical center down near Urasoe. I grew up going there as a kid and don't recall any problems medically. Be sure Tricare will cover care given there. We're between a rock and a hard place while stationed overseas. You're always able to talk to your 1ST SGT if it's a big issue for you. He or she may know your options better. Take care.

Never talk to the 1st Sgt. We have learned our lesson! (this is what was posted on my blog http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-q1l6Pwk4draxpBmKrlxx5bY-?cq=1&p=360 My husband is being deployed next month. I want him deployed so I can pay off bills. My phone will be off the hook, certain people know my cell #. But I still need to find someone to mow the yard for me.

When my husband was deployed in Jan 2006, I don't know what all this gosip and bullshit was but in February I got a call from his 1st Sgt. telling me how stressful it is taking care of 3 kids who are always sick. This chick was calling me every night and day, including my cellphone. All she kept telling me is that I am stressed, I am suicidal, that I can't handle taking care of my kids always been sick. She kept telling me that I needed my husband back, that I need to admit it. Here I kept telling her I don't want my husband back. She would call to try and get me to admit I wanted my husband back. I NEVER wanted him back. It was like why doesn't this BI*** understand I DON'T WANT HIM BACK!! Here from the day he left until he came back I had it figured out that he would be debt free when he came back. Thats why I didn't want him back.

I quit answering the calls. She was the one stressing me out. If I didn't answer her calls, her messenger would call me and tell me I need to call her cuz she is worried about me.

1st off - Where in the hell does she get her info?

2nd - She doesn't know me or my kids?

3rd - My kids are not always sick, I had one child who needed tubes in the ears, her ear infections wouldn't go away, she needed to be re-tubed. Then she got pneumonia and needed to be hospitalized. My oldest daughter has a rare fever syndrome which she has had since 2wks old and rarely gets sick.

4th - This 1st Sgt. tried to get us off Island and tried everything she could think of, she told me we have been to the Peds. Clinic over 100 times in 1yr. Turned out that includes WIC, Eye Dr., ENT, ER, Dietician, Hospitalizations (pneumonia), and etc. For 3 kids that is NOT bad!! My 10yr old, needs to be seen in Ophthalmology clinic as needed for her burning eyes, she has a high chance of going blind!

5th - I never talked to any of the deployed spouses. I keep to myself and go off base with my friends. I am never on base.

6th - I never went to the Deployed Spouses Dinner - I really don't eat American food, I am not a party person. The 1st Sgt. would call and ask why I keep turning them down, cuz she said they called her and told them I sounded so stressed out on the phone and turned them down. So here she would tell me I need to go and stop stressing.

7th - I was never interested in the stuff they offered for deployed spouses.

8th - I never called the squadron directly for help!

9th - I did call a Key Spouse/RAV to see if she could watch my baby while I take one to the ER, I got the impression she didn't want to, from all her excuses. She wanted me to find daycare on a weekend. Hello - I have an Emergency here....well she did watch the 6hrs later (I tried everything). And she kept calling me non stop to come pick her up ASAP. My daughter had pneumonia and needed to be hospitalized. I asked her if she knew where I could put the baby, and she said daycare. So I got it arranged the baby can stay with me in the hospital with the other one. While I had my oldest stay with her friend.

10th - I NEVER WANTED MY HUSBAND HOME! WHAT PART DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND??

Well, in April my parents were coming to visit me for 2wks. My parents arrived on the 6th. And my husband returned home on the 10th. His 1st Sgt. brought him home about 5 weeks early. He asked why he was home, I had no idea why. My parents were shocked to see him. They came here cuz he was deployed. Here we had no idea why he was here. Why couldn't he stay 5 wks longer? What was the Emergency?

When he got back his 1st Sgt, told him I called her everyday crying and screaming that I needed him home. That is a FRUCKING LIE! YOU BETTER GET YOUR STORY RIGHT BI***!! CUZ DAMN IF I EVER SEE YOU I WILL GO OFF ON YOU. (I did see her and I went off on her - off base)!

For one thing I am not emotional, people that know me can tell you that!

What gives a 1st Sgt. the right to lie to bring a deployed spouse home ASAP? Don't they need evidence there is an emergency? Not something based on hear say? Emergency is death in family...did someone die? NO!!

All those times she called me and everything she said I would email my husband and tell him everything. My husband and relatives knew she was harrassing me. My Grandpa retired AF, told me to press charges for harrassment. He told me to ignore her calls.

Here I had over 25 saved messages in 1 wk from her. I saved them all until my husband got home to hear them.

Here I hear these rumors that I wanted my husband home, are those the rumors from the 1st. Sgt. ???

One thing that pissed me off big time was her she would call me and tell me I need counseling and she has been chatting/emailing Family Advocacy and telling me I needed to go there. She tried so hard to get me there. Why do I need counseling? She heard that I might be suicidal. So here she heard from someone, when I don't talk to anyone in the squadron. I was way too happy to be suicidal. Then she told me I needed to put my daughter on EFMP. That was her trick to get me there and to get my husband home. I went to the appt I wouldn't sign anything for EFMP, my husband can sign it when he gets here. Then he noticed my daughter was uncontrollable. Telling me she needs counseling for the terrible 2's. I told him she doesn't understand, she is delayed in speech. He was telling me he see's it all the time. The terrible "2's" - that I need to understand that. Here this guy was telling me all this stuff, but he didn't know anything about my kids. All of it was from hear say.

So here my husband was brought back as an emergency home from HEAR SAY! Is that how they treat all new people to Island?

I have nothing against anyone, but when your spouse is deployed and they say if you ever need help or anything just call.. if you don't mean what you say don't bother in telling me your lies. I am not interested. I am not mad, what happend already happend, I can't change anything. People need to get to know people before they judge people. We no longer go to any squadron parties like we use too. I have better things to do with my family than go somewhere so people can talk more shit about us!!

[socalheart]

:scared: Uhm... okay, then... I'll rephrase that... Don't call your 1st SGT. Wow, what a negative experience for you. I hope I never run into that person; sounds a bit mental to me. :rolleyes: Good luck in the future; hopefully you have a better experience the next time. gulp... :crying:

[Muku]

I'm only familiar with Seventh Day Adventist medical center down near Urasoe. I grew up going there as a kid and don't recall any problems medically. Be sure Tricare will cover care given there. We're between a rock and a hard place while stationed overseas. You're always able to talk to your 1ST SGT if it's a big issue for you. He or she may know your options better. Take care.

If you are interested in going to off base specialists please send me a PM or post a message here. I know numerous doctors, clinics, hospital's, you name it. There is a great childrens hospital here as well. They could very well help you out too.

[N3philum]

That sounds like a HORRIBLE 1stSgt. Do not take every one like this one. There are good ones out there that are all about helping people. So far i have not had any bad experiences with the Ped. Clinic on lester. If I EVER get the crap that my son is not sick when I KNOW he is.. Ill raise a huge BS flag. Which I think that coldnoodles should do anyways.

[Muku]

Coldnoodles could you please turn on your PM capabilties here?

Thank you! Got your message and wanted to reply.

[coldnoodles]

:scared: Uhm... okay, then... I'll rephrase that... Don't call your 1st SGT. Wow, what a negative experience for you. I hope I never run into that person; sounds a bit mental to me. :rolleyes: Good luck in the future; hopefully you have a better experience the next time. gulp... :crying:

With my husband deploying soon...I am waiting to see what they are going to pull this time!

[Muku]

Coldnoodles

Did I get your attention this time?

I asked you this last night on a previous post, in fact two back from this one, and now I will ask one more time, if you would like assistance it would behoove you to follow up as well.

I have seen you on line, not just last night but this AM as well.

You want help with Doctor's and such here on island, I can assist you, but if you send me PM's expect me to reply by PM, I want to respect your privacy as well.

However if you dont turn on your PM function here I can not reply. As they are blocked from being accepted.

I wrote two rather lengthly and detailed replies to you with information you were seeking. The first time oh well, blocked out, but and repeating myself here, you didnt turn the function on.

Do I sound angry, I hope so, because it ticks me off when someone asks for assistance and then disappears. What makes this even worse is that is was information about doctors and help for kids.

You even had the nerve to ask for a read receipt of your PM and then you block me from responding to you!

Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me, I dont give out third times to strangers!

[coldnoodles]

Coldnoodles

Did I get your attention this time?

I asked you this last night on a previous post, in fact two back from this one, and now I will ask one more time, if you would like assistance it would behoove you to follow up as well.

I have seen you on line, not just last night but this AM as well.

You want help with Doctor's and such here on island, I can assist you, but if you send me PM's expect me to reply by PM, I want to respect your privacy as well.

However if you dont turn on your PM function here I can not reply. As they are blocked from being accepted.

I wrote two rather lengthly and detailed replies to you with information you were seeking. The first time oh well, blocked out, but and repeating myself here, you didnt turn the function on.

Do I sound angry, I hope so, because it ticks me off when someone asks for assistance and then disappears. What makes this even worse is that is was information about doctors and help for kids.

You even had the nerve to ask for a read receipt of your PM and then you block me from responding to you!

Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me, I dont give out third times to strangers!

I don't even know how in the h*** to block PM's and for that matter I don't even know how to unblock it.

[Muku]

don't even know how in the h*** to block PM's and for that matter I don't even know how to unblock it.

Go to your user CP and scroll down to the box about pm's, the default setting for this forum is to allow pm's, you have to have the box disabling pm's checked, otherwise you would be able to recieve them.

That simple.

I find it a bit difficult to believe right now, because the only way that could happen is if you checked it. It doesnt happen on it's own. You were on the ball enough to check for a read receipt I can not believe you didnt know about disabling/enabling pm's.

Oh and it still doesn't answer why you didnt reply yesterday either btw. If you had read it yesterday, which I can pretty much assume you did, since my post came before yours, you either ignored it or whatever.

Not that I asked or anything but it would be common courtesy to let people know if you are having trouble with something here.

[coldnoodles]

Sorry but I must be a blonde!

[imporicer]

Coldnoodles

Did I get your attention this time?

I asked you this last night on a previous post, in fact two back from this one, and now I will ask one more time, if you would like assistance it would behoove you to follow up as well.

I have seen you on line, not just last night but this AM as well.

You want help with Doctor's and such here on island, I can assist you, but if you send me PM's expect me to reply by PM, I want to respect your privacy as well.

However if you dont turn on your PM function here I can not reply. As they are blocked from being accepted.

I wrote two rather lengthly and detailed replies to you with information you were seeking. The first time oh well, blocked out, but and repeating myself here, you didnt turn the function on.

Do I sound angry, I hope so, because it ticks me off when someone asks for assistance and then disappears. What makes this even worse is that is was information about doctors and help for kids.

You even had the nerve to ask for a read receipt of your PM and then you block me from responding to you!

Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me, I dont give out third times to strangers!

Here I got home this morning, my wife was all happy, doing laundry, cooking, she was chatting with her brother and checking her email, then all of a sudden she grabs and opens a Corona, went from happy horney mood to a very bitchy mood. Damn, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something? Here my wife had no intention of pissing you off, but if you are going to be cold like that, we don't want any help/assistance.

My wife is always going out of her way helping people, she has never complained once about helping people. My wife has lots of patience, it takes her long time to get super pissed off, then you don't want to be in the same room with her!

[Muku]

Here I got home this morning, my wife was all happy, doing laundry, cooking, she was chatting with her brother and checking her email, then all of a sudden she grabs and opens a Corona, went from happy horney mood to a very bitchy mood. Damn, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something? Here my wife had no intention of pissing you off, but if you are going to be cold like that, we don't want any help/assistance.


So, intentional or not I have no idea who she is or you are btw and can only make a judgment based upon what she or anyone else writes here. I'm happy for you that she is a great wife for you.

I was a bit ticked off that someone, your wife btw, sent me a PM asking for assistance. I took, oh forget it it wouldnt matter to you how much time I spent looking up the pertinent information anyway, posted it to a pm and BOOM! She blocked me out.

Hmmm hence the post last night, get up this morning see that she has been on line and has made posts and replied on this the same last night after my post about the PM's. Easy to think hey she got the message right?

Rewrite the PM again sent it again and BOOM again! BLOCKED! Hence this AM's post. Got her attention right? Thought so then she posts this and expects me to believe it......it's not like I can call you up on the telephone of something.

I don't even know how in the h*** to block PM's and for that matter I don't even know how to unblock it.
Today 08:20 AM


Yet she knows how to check a box for read receipts and like I wrote earlier the default setting here is to accept PM's so, whether she forgot what she did when she set up the account I dont know, but she had to check it NOONE else can do it, not even the admin or a moderator.

So what am I supposed to think?

Want to try asking again?