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dndkt
07-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Ok, so I'm still bitter. We lost an envelope containing well over $1000 in the towers area. I was pissed. It's been a few days and still no response or return. Go figure. Didn't think it would come back to us. I just wanted to wish the person who kept it a happy and enjoyable time with our childcare and rent money. I know someone found it since we searched under at least $100 cars and the entire parking lot and surrounding areas. My spouse noticed about 5 minutes after it was lost. It would have been waayyyy too heavy to blow away. So we are certain that someone picked it up. Karma is a bit@h! So enjoy your time with it, because it will come back to get you! Our fault too. I should never let my husband have money! :cursing:

badkitty
07-18-2008, 03:32 PM
Why O Why would have have 1k in cash??????? Yall just gave that $$ away.

Oki alumni
07-18-2008, 03:34 PM
A few years back...I actually found a wallet during the Christmas season containing approximately $1,000 and including ID cards, credit cards, etc., in the commissary parking lot. I got in touch with the owner, who had me bring it to her. She politely thanked me. No "bitching", but had the situation been reversed, I would probably have at least OFFERED something for the minor trouble.

Things have, overall, a way of "evening out". I've probably found enough loose bills and coins of varying denominations, as I've lost over the years. LOL, wish I could say the same about the slot machines!

-Oki alumni

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
07-18-2008, 03:42 PM
"Way too heavy to blow away"?!

Too bad about the cash, but been on Okinawa long?

dk
07-18-2008, 03:44 PM
"Way too heavy to blow away"?!

Too bad about the cash, but been on Okinawa long?
Probably not if they're living in the towers.

dk
07-18-2008, 03:45 PM
I should never let my husband have money! :cursing:
That's pretty harsh. Who earns it?

OtisPMerriweather
07-18-2008, 03:48 PM
Wish I'd found it. I'd be at the shake joint right now!

DocTurtle
07-18-2008, 03:54 PM
That's pretty harsh. Who earns it?

I actually think she does. I have the flyer in my tower and it has her name and contact # for work.

Sorry about the misfortune. No pun intended.

dk
07-18-2008, 04:04 PM
I actually think she does. I have the flyer in my tower and it has her name and contact # for work.

Sorry about the misfortune. No pun intended.
Ah cool. Lucky guy, then. Well, not lucky in this situation, but lucky about not having to be the primary cash cow.

I've heard non-working wives talk like and I've always wanted to smack them. Anytime my own wife gives me problems about money, I remind her that it's easier for her to get a new job here (Japanese) than it is for me.

Old Timer
07-18-2008, 04:19 PM
:crying: Okinawa brought forth the reality of "dependent husbands" to me 20 years ago. What a motley crew of rogues and rascals...........:crying: No insult intended.

Old Timer
07-18-2008, 04:21 PM
Villains are based on the idea of humans. They are identical, except that they have some additional qualities, namely a mustache, a hat, a certain "look", some level of drunkenness, and a certain quantity of damsels in their possession. your standard villain will look mean, start the day out sober, and not yet have captured any damsels."

How fitting :scared:

DocTurtle
07-18-2008, 04:23 PM
My dad was a dependent husband. We lived in Misawa back in '86. He was in a band called, "The Dependents" cause everyone in the band where male dependents. True story!

dk
07-18-2008, 04:24 PM
Villains are based on the idea of humans. They are identical, except that they have some additional qualities, namely a mustache, a hat, a certain "look", some level of drunkenness, and a certain quantity of damsels in their possession. your standard villain will look mean, start the day out sober, and not yet have captured any damsels."

How fitting :scared:
Believe it or not, it's actually from the most entertaining tutorial on Object Oriented Programming I've ever read.

DoctorP
07-18-2008, 04:30 PM
sorry that you lost your money...but every payday I am also walking around with at least $1,000. I ensure that it is put away safely...not in an envelope.

How often do you walk around with an envelope with money in it? Very easy to misplace that....a lot less easy to misplace either a wad of cash stuffed in your front pocket, or a wallet full of cash and your ID card.

Best of luck to you.

socalheart
07-18-2008, 05:07 PM
Bummer that no one turned in that money to PMO. You're probably right about the karma thing though. Good on you that you don't (publicly) wish them ill for not returning the money. I do hope some good fortune comes your way in turn as well. :D

Honestly, if it was less than $20, I'd probably keep it. Likewise, I wouldn't expect anyone to report that small an amount found. I know, it's not a small amount to someone who needs it. Believe me, I have $2 in my wallet... on payday! Anyhow, it's just not morally right for someone to find $1000 in an envelope or wallet and not turn it into PMO at least. That much money is obviously meant to pay bills. People like that really chap my hide! :mad:

wenjam
07-18-2008, 05:55 PM
Did you call the MP station? Maybe...long shot....someone turned it in. But, hey, you never know.

DoctorP
07-18-2008, 06:07 PM
I was going to say put an ad in JU, but looks like you already did it.

A few weeks ago someone lost their wallet around McT, and put an ad in there saying "if you see your kids with a large sum of money, then question them about it." You might want to do something similar.

It is very possible kids found it, if you get parents attention, then maybe they will help you track it down.

OtisPMerriweather
07-20-2008, 03:25 PM
Call me morally bankrupt (no pun intended, seriously), but have you ever considered that if I happened to find an envelope with $1000 dollars in it, maybe I am receiving my good karma and the person who lost the $1000 bucks is actually getting paid back for some other bad shit they did?

T_Town84
07-20-2008, 03:31 PM
Call me morally bankrupt (no pun intended, seriously), but have you ever considered that if I happened to find an envelope with $1000 dollars in it, maybe I am receiving my good karma and the person who lost the $1000 bucks is actually getting paid back for some other bad shit they did?

I couldn't have said it better myself... it just sucks that the bad karma had to happen like that to you if thats what it was....

also, make sure you check your vehicle really well... you can loose stuff to easy under those tricky seats.

Alana
07-20-2008, 05:01 PM
Bummer that no one turned in that money to PMO. You're probably right about the karma thing though. Good on you that you don't (publicly) wish them ill for not returning the money. I do hope some good fortune comes your way in turn as well. :D

Honestly, if it was less than $20, I'd probably keep it. Likewise, I wouldn't expect anyone to report that small an amount found. I know, it's not a small amount to someone who needs it. Believe me, I have $2 in my wallet... on payday! Anyhow, it's just not morally right for someone to find $1000 in an envelope or wallet and not turn it into PMO at least. That much money is obviously meant to pay bills. People like that really chap my hide! :mad:
i found 1000 yen in a parking lot a few weeks ago, normally i wouldnt think twice about it, but it for some reason was just bugging the hell out of me, so when i went to the commissary later i tipped the bagger with it even though i had like a loaf of bread and some milk. just passing the good karma on i guess.

dk
07-20-2008, 05:13 PM
Guys, I have a big problem. Earlier today I dropped 100 yen somewhere in my house or in my parking lot. I know it doesn't seem like much, but at the moment, money is really tight and I could have purchased half a beer with that, or if I eventually came upon an additional 100 yen I could even buy a whole beer. The coin might be under one of my seats or inside the couch, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I was saving that money for something special (a beer) and it's the most money I've had in my wallet in over a month. Can anyone help me? Where should I look?

badkitty
07-20-2008, 05:14 PM
Guys, I have a big problem. Earlier today I dropped 100 yen somewhere in my house or in my parking lot. I know it doesn't seem like much, but at the moment, money is really tight and I could have purchased half a beer with that, or if I eventually came upon an additional 100 yen I could even buy a whole beer. The coin might be under one of my seats or inside the couch, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I was saving that money for something special (a beer) and it's the most money I've had in my wallet in over a month. Can anyone help me? Where should I look?

Dude, was that rent money!?!!?!?

dk
07-20-2008, 05:38 PM
Dude, was that rent money!?!!?!?
No. Worse. It was beer money. :crying:

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
07-20-2008, 05:43 PM
That 100円 could have got stuck in that nasty toe-jam you got going in this muggy weather. Didja check there?! ;)

dk
07-20-2008, 05:46 PM
That 100円 could have got stuck in that nasty toe-jam you got going in this muggy weather. Didja check there?! ;)
It's not there. I just checked (and washed).

Bones
07-20-2008, 05:46 PM
I found a 100 yen today.:w00t:

Went to the 100 yen store and bought that back scratcher that I've always wanted.

On the bad side, while I was gone my brother in law drank the last beer in the fridge.:cursing:

Bones:old:

dk
07-20-2008, 05:46 PM
That was mine! Give it back!!!

Bones
07-20-2008, 05:51 PM
Sorry, the 100 yen store doesn't give refunds. But the back scratcher works real good.:grin1:

Daniela
07-20-2008, 06:10 PM
We went to the pool today and my daughter and her friend found 20,- in the bathroom on the floor. I made them go to the office to turn it in, thinking that maybe if no one claimed it they could keep it at the end of the day.
Well, they told the kids to just keep it right away.
Woohoo, the party was on for them. Off to the store they went to buy junk food and drinks.
Should I feel bad about that??????

Oh dk, I found 100 yen in my dryer the other day. Could that be yours? I didn't lose 100 yen, yet, here it is!!!!!

sharding
07-20-2008, 06:30 PM
HaHa, I have crap loads of yen coins stashed inside my ashtray of my truck. Goes to show what those are really good for, Just regular old coin holders.

dk
07-20-2008, 06:40 PM
Maybe my 100 yen coin magically teleported into Daniella's dryer!

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 06:55 PM
Well honestly if I found and envelope with $1000 on the ground I will keep it. I'm sorry and I guess I'm an asshole but oh well. If I find a wallet or purse I will check for money and take the money out but turn the wallet or purse to the owner or to the proper authorities.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:07 PM
If I find a wallet or purse I will check for money and take the money out but turn the wallet or purse to the owner or to the proper authorities.

Sounds like something the REAL dead jimmy hoffa would do!

Suspect I might be getting a "kick sand" response to my comment.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 07:13 PM
Sounds like something the REAL dead jimmy hoffa would do!

Suspect I might be getting a "kick sand" response to my comment.


Why would I do that?

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:15 PM
Why would I do that?

With the incredibly ugly economic situation in the world and this island, if you found a wallet with someone's money in it, why would you take the money, and only return the wallet?

That's why YOU would tell me to "kick sand,"

socalheart
07-20-2008, 07:21 PM
What's the deal with people losing all this money suddenly? I had the same amount the other to pay bills. I put it directly in my wallet, went to pay bills and went home. How do you people lose that much money?! :confused:

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 07:26 PM
With the incredibly ugly economic situation in the world and this island, if you found a wallet with someone's money in it, why would you take the money, and only return the wallet?

That's why YOU would tell me to "kick sand,"

The ugly economic situation and my personal ugly financial situation as well as the fact I am not SOFA is exactly why I would keep the money.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:31 PM
The ugly economic situation and my personal ugly financial situation as well as the fact I am not SOFA is exactly why I would keep the money.

Morals are NOT a genus of edible mushrooms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morel

Why not just go and mug somebody???

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 07:34 PM
Morals are NOT a genus of edible mushrooms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morel

Why not just go and mug somebody???

Because I'm not a criminal. If I find something on the ground I don't see it as actually stealing it.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:36 PM
Because I'm not a criminal. If I find something on the ground I don't see it as actually stealing it.

If you see a wallet on the ground and few wallets don't have some form of identification in them, you don't see taking the money as stealing?

Is that what you are trying to say???

Morally bankrupt I'd say!

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 07:38 PM
If you see a wallet on the ground and few wallets don't have some form of identification in them, you don't see taking the money as stealing?

Is that what you are trying to say???

Morally bankrupt I'd say!

No I don't. I found it on the ground and the money in the wallet is my service fee I pay myself to give the wallet to the owner or proper authorities.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:40 PM
No I don't. I found it on the ground and the money in the wallet is my service fee I pay myself to give the wallet to the owner or proper authorities.

Taking money from a wallet with clear identification is a crime, jimmy aka tony aka whatever your last gangsta thug name was.

If not a legal crime everywhere, certainly a moral crime EVERYWHERE.

Finders fee!!!

Tell me, do the PI have one of the best educational systems in the whole world???

Daniela
07-20-2008, 07:45 PM
No I don't. I found it on the ground and the money in the wallet is my service fee I pay myself to give the wallet to the owner or proper authorities.

You are one of "those" people I never want to meet in any way, shape or form. I am disgusted that you are on this forum. I might be disgusted responding to you. I have to think about that one.

Bad Karma is on the way for you. ENJOY, you earned it!!!!!!

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Read the history of posts under tony stacks, rick janes jr. AND jimmy hoffa - it'll make ya' wanna barf!

All one and the same - hasn't changed a whit!

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Taking money from a wallet with clear identification is a crime, jimmy aka tony aka whatever your last gangsta thug name was.

It might be technically but how on earth can an arrest be made? How would one prove such a crime happened?

How about the envelope with money? Finding money on the ground and keeping it is NOT a crime!

Taking the money out of a wallet might be but there is no way to build a case.

I don't know who Tony is btw.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 07:49 PM
You are one of "those" people I never want to meet in any way, shape or form. I am disgusted that you are on this forum. I might be disgusted responding to you. I have to think about that one.

Bad Karma is on the way for you. ENJOY, you earned it!!!!!!

I'm sorry you feel that way. I am actually a very nice person. Wouldnt finding money on the ground be good karma to me?

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:50 PM
It might be technically but how on earth can an arrest be made? How would one prove such a crime happened?

How about the envelope with money? Finding money on the ground and keeping it is NOT a crime!

Taking the money out of a wallet might be but there is no way to build a case.

I don't know who Tony is btw.

You know darned well who tony is - you know who rick james jr. is; AND we all know who you are?

"There's no proof that god doesn't exist, is there, tony???

You'll never change no matter how many times you try and change your name.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 07:50 PM
btw if I was rich or at least making big money than I would just trun the wallet in as is. But i'm not and that's where the finders fee comes in.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:54 PM
I'm sorry you feel that way. I am actually a very nice person.

No, tony you're not a very nice person, you're one of "the good guys."



Wouldnt finding money on the ground be good karma to me?

Finding it might be good karma - then stealing it . . . well you tell me?

and none of this finder's fee cr*p.

Daniela
07-20-2008, 07:55 PM
btw if I was rich or at least making big money than I would just trun the wallet in as is. But i'm not and that's where the finders fee comes in.

The reason you are not rich is because you don't turn the wallet in. Get it???

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:56 PM
btw if I was rich or at least making big money than I would just trun the wallet in as is. But i'm not and that's where the finders fee comes in.

What a load of self-serving bs - you'll never be rich teaching English or with JKS cleaning, buster!

vvloc
07-20-2008, 07:58 PM
The reason you are not rich is because you don't turn the wallet in. Get it???

No, Daniela, sadly enough, tony aka jimmy aka rick james JR. has NEVER gotten it and never will.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 08:01 PM
What a load of self-serving bs - you'll never be rich teaching English or with JKS cleaning, buster!

Of course it's self surving. I'm the one saying it about me. Furthermore I never found money or a wallet before. If I find an envelope on the ground with money in my pocket it goes. If I find a wallet the money goes in my pocket and I turn the wallet in.

What about the fact that I am decent enough to turn the wallet in? Do you know there are some people out there that would'nt turn the wallet in? Or some people that would use the credit cards? Or steal the peoples identities?

So I think you should see the good rather than attack me.

Daniela
07-20-2008, 08:01 PM
No, Daniela, sadly enough, tony aka jimmy aka rick james JR. has NEVER gotten it and never will.

I officially heart vvloc!!!!!!

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 08:03 PM
BTW I've been robbed at gun point, lost money and had a cell phone stolen. I have NEVER stole before.

So keeping something I found on the ground warrents these attacks?

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:03 PM
would'nt turn the wallet in?

Now who are the only three guys on these forums who spell "would'nt" like that?

Daniela
07-20-2008, 08:03 PM
Of course it's self surving. I'm the one saying it about me. Furthermore I never found money or a wallet before. If I find an envelope on the ground with money in my pocket it goes. If I find a wallet the money goes in my pocket and I turn the wallet in.

What about the fact that I am decent enough to turn the wallet in? Do you know there are some people out there that would'nt turn the wallet in? Or some people that would use the credit cards? Or steal the peoples identities?

So I think you should see the good rather than attack me.

LOL!!!!! You are so messed up and don't even know it!!!!
This is truly entertaining.

DoctorP
07-20-2008, 08:04 PM
Take the personal issues to PM people, no need to keep going with it in this thread!

Bones
07-20-2008, 08:05 PM
$1000.00, is big money so I would turn it in. Two reasons:

1. The people who lost this amount of money were looking to pay bills, etc...

2. With my lousy luck, that kind of money would either be a plant from a local law enforcement entity, drug money, etc...

If someone offered me a finders fee, I'd probably turn that down as well.

Daniela
07-20-2008, 08:06 PM
BTW I've been robbed at gun point, lost money and had a cell phone stolen. I have NEVER stole before.

So keeping something I found on the ground warrents these attacks?

It should be " have never STOLEN before".

Do you know how to conjugate verbs?

And yes it does. It does not belong to you.

dk
07-20-2008, 08:08 PM
BTW I've been robbed at gun point, lost money and had a cell phone stolen. I have NEVER stole before.

So keeping something I found on the ground warrents these attacks?
Yes Tony, if you find a wallet with someone's identification and money in it and you keep the money, it does warrant these attacks.

I lost my wallet last year. Somebody only slightly worse than you probably took the money and threw away my wallet. You weren't at the second JU get-together were you? The one at Hank & Rumi's?

I ended up having to go get new copies of ALL of my identification and lost countless priceless items such as baby pictures, family pictures, etc. So, yes, Tony, if you are even close to this bad, you are deserving of these attacks that you are facing at this moment whether or not you HAD actually done this with someone's wallet.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 08:09 PM
It should be " have never STOLEN before".

Do you know how to conjugate verbs?

And yes it does. It does not belong to you.

No I have terrible puncuation and need spell check which I dont bother using here and dictionaries and other references when doing important papers.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:10 PM
It should be " have never STOLEN before".

Do you know how to conjugate verbs?

And yes it does. It does not belong to you.

Of course, jimmy knows how to conjugate verbs - he's an English teacher:rolleyes:!

Oki alumni
07-20-2008, 08:11 PM
The jist was and IS that there are SOME people who will just never "get it". I'd think there were some legal ramifications in NOT turning in the money also...something like theft perhaps? After all, one WOULD know that the money didn't belong to themselves, wouldn't one?

The Japanese system of "finders keepers" goes something like this. Find money or something of value, and the police will put it in storage. After a fixed amount of time, if no one has claimed the money, and made some kind of positive identification (money or item), the finder is notified, and gets LEGAL possession thereof. At least that was pretty much the way it was explained to ME...by my Japanese wife.

LOL, same system on the trains in mainland, except the train company keeps the items. There is an ABUNDANCE of umbrellas!!!!!!!!!

-Oki Alumni:old:

DougP
07-20-2008, 08:13 PM
I've lost a number of wallets before and only had one turn up. Luckily I've never been one to carry a lot of cash on me. Unfortunately sometimes cash can be of the least importance when it comes to the contents of a wallet. ID cards, credit cards ATM cards etc are a pain in the ass to replace. I'd rather have a wallet turn up with no cash inside and all of my real valuables still there than have to repeat the process of getting my identity back.

On the other side of the coin I did run across a wallet once by a gas station here a few years back. I simply brought it to one of the attendants working there. He opened the wallet in order to find its owner's identity and discovered there was over 70,000 yen inside. Hopefully that wallet ended up being reunited with its rightful owner, never bothered to check up on it.:) I haven't been in a situation where I have been broke and down on my luck only to have my integrity tested with the discovery of large sums of cash. I have been broke and down on my luck before though and remember constantly checking the ground as I walked for a lucky 100 yen coin or 1000 yen bill to turn up. Never had any luck with that.:) Hopefully I'll never be faced with such a moral dilemma. I suppose its easy to rationalize it as not quite being theft or that its justified because you suppose you need the money more than the wallet's owner does. But you never know. The contents of that wallet could be everything that person did have.

People will do what they need to in order to survive or pay the bills. That's a given sometimes. That doesn't always mean that what measures one takes in their own self interest or does to provide for their family is a noble act or something to feel proud of.

DoctorP
07-20-2008, 08:13 PM
Ever notice that the combinis have a nice little need an umbrella take an umbrella stand? :rolleyes:

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:19 PM
mportant papers.

Now THAT is a good one, jimmy!

P_chan
07-20-2008, 08:24 PM
Well honestly if I found and envelope with $1000 on the ground I will keep it. I'm sorry and I guess I'm an asshole but oh well. If I find a wallet or purse I will check for money and take the money out but turn the wallet or purse to the owner or to the proper authorities.

Wow, that's real shitty. I'll admit that I would be tempted to keep the money if I found it in a plain white envelope on the ground. Because anybody could come along as say they lost that money. Now if I found it in an envelope on the ground then noticed a sign reporting it missing the next day, then I'd turn it over. But once it comes to someone's purse or wallet, I'd give it back in a split second. And no, I wouldn't take the money out of it.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 08:32 PM
Let's say is was Bill Gates or Donald Trumps wallet you found and for some reason there is a lot of cash. Those that say they would not take the money are full of shit or already rich.

DoctorP
07-20-2008, 08:35 PM
Let's say is was Bill Gates or Donald Trumps wallet you found and for some reason there is a lot of cash. Those that say they would not take the money are full of shit or already rich.

Why not return Trumps wallet of cash and take the reward he is likely to give you?:scratchchin:

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:36 PM
Let's say is was Bill Gates or Donald Trumps wallet you found and for some reason there is a lot of cash. Those that say they would not take the money are full of shit or already rich.

BUT it's not Bill Gates or Donald Trumps - it's just one of the 1.3 million average joes you share this island with.

SHEEEEESH - this reminds me of the day you insisted on fighting with the whole board as to whether Okinawa was american territory or not.

You just NEVER know when to quit, nor can you ever admit you are/were wrong!

DoctorP
07-20-2008, 08:41 PM
BUT it's not Bill Gates or Donald Trumps - it's just one of the 1.3 million average joes you share this island with.



Exactly! The person that lost the money probably makes $27K/yr and just lost $1,000 of it! :rolleyes:

Oki alumni
07-20-2008, 08:43 PM
Taking something into YOUR possession with intent to keep it permanently, that you KNOW doesn't belong to you is quite simply...THEFT...unless you're acting as a "temporary holding agent" in an official capacity. The degree of illegality depends on the value of the item taken. Yup..legally, those U.S. Government pens count also.

-Oki Alumni

P_chan
07-20-2008, 08:45 PM
Let's say is was Bill Gates or Donald Trumps wallet you found and for some reason there is a lot of cash. Those that say they would not take the money are full of shit or already rich.

No jimmy, I wouldn't take it and I'm not full of shit or rich. I also wouldn't expect some type of big reward because they're rich. I'd also like to think that someone would do the same for me if I lost my wallet, but I doubt it.

Besides.....Mo money Mo problems!

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 08:47 PM
Taking something into YOUR possession with intent to keep it permanently, that you KNOW doesn't belong to you is quite simply...THEFT...unless you're acting as a "temporary holding agent" in an official capacity. The degree of illegality depends on the value of the item taken. Yup..legally, those U.S. Government pens count also.

-Oki Alumni

That is 100% correct. But tell me how one could even prosecute such a case?

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 08:48 PM
Exactly! The person that lost the money probably makes $27K/yr and just lost $1,000 of it! :rolleyes:


So now i just made less than $27K plus an extra $1000.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 08:50 PM
Why not return Trumps wallet of cash and take the reward he is likely to give you?:scratchchin:

Because taking the cash is guarenteed money. Waiting for a possible reward is not.

P_chan
07-20-2008, 08:51 PM
Because taking the cash is guarenteed money. Waiting for a possible reward is not.

Yes but let's say trump finds out that you took the money out of his wallet before returning it. What do you think he'd do? I hope you took enough to get yourself a good lawyer.

Old Timer
07-20-2008, 08:51 PM
Taking something into YOUR possession with intent to keep it permanently, that you KNOW doesn't belong to you is quite simply...THEFT...unless you're acting as a "temporary holding agent" in an official capacity. The degree of illegality depends on the value of the item taken. Yup..legally, those U.S. Government pens count also.

-Oki Alumni

Most writing instruments now are other than SKILCRAFT. Hard to make a case.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:52 PM
That is 100% correct. But tell me how one could even prosecute such a case?

I'd hire James Neal, the prosecuter who convicted Jimmy Hoffa:

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/may/09/chattanooga-hoffa-prosecutor-magnet-big-cases/

or TP!

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:53 PM
Because taking the cash is guarenteed money. Waiting for a possible reward is not.

Morality is a hard job, but someone's gotta do it.

Daniela
07-20-2008, 08:55 PM
Alright,
I take it. Warn me, whatever.
Jimmy....You suck!!!!! You have no integrity.

I really hope, somewhere down the line you lose 1000,-.


Daniela OUT!!!!!

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
07-20-2008, 08:55 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PUoubNdLL.jpg

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:55 PM
Believe me, no-one knows jimmy like i know jimmy - against all odds, he'll argue the righteousness of stealing a grand regardless of how many people tell him he's wrong.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:56 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PUoubNdLL.jpg

Let's not forget the self-appointed leader of the el rushbo fan club.

Oki alumni
07-20-2008, 08:57 PM
Most writing instruments now are other than SKILCRAFT. Hard to make a case.


True this. And most pens, etc., small expendable items can be bought at the military exchanges too. So...who's to know besides the thief, eh? I used to inadvertently carry pens home with me, and every so often would bundle 'em together and take 'em back to the office for "recycling", haha. I am NOT saying I never KEPT one, so that makes me a thief also. On the other hand (not trying to justify MY theft), I've also DONATED many of my personal pens at one time or another to Uncle Sam.

-Oki Alumni

vvloc
07-20-2008, 08:58 PM
How's about this oldie but goodie: “If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.”

Bones
07-20-2008, 08:58 PM
As posted by P_chan:

Besides.....Mo money Mo problems!

So true. If I found $1000.00, that would set our women into a frenzy deciding how many "Coach" items they could buy.

The idea that I might want to upgrade my computer, is normally met with something like: "We need to save money!!!""

Ok, good idea. But why save money if I can't spend it on myself sometimes, as compared to "feeding your damned family every weekend?"

I'd still turn the money back in, but as far as our money goes, I get an itch to satisfy the "Techie" in me, and it needs to be scratched soon.

Well, maybe not.

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
07-20-2008, 09:00 PM
Morality for Dummies

http://zippy.blogdns.com/zippy/img/ind_for_dummies.jpg

vvloc
07-20-2008, 09:00 PM
And this one: "Words that do not match deeds are unimportant."

BUT jimmy is NEVER wrong:rolleyes:!

silviasichigo
07-20-2008, 09:02 PM
wow you people are acting like this guy actually stole something.....gay......as for the person who lost the $1000.00 sorry to hear it, but don't blame other people for your mistakes, I have lost valubles but at no ones fault but my own. On a side note I have found Y10,000 several times not a single sliver of guilt crossed my mind but I tell you what my family ate a nice dinner that night.

Jimmy Hoffa
07-20-2008, 09:03 PM
wow you people are acting like this guy actually stole something.....gay......as for the person who lost the $1000.00 sorry to hear it, but don't blame other people for your mistakes, I have lost valubles but at no ones fault but my own. On a side note I have found Y10,000 several times not a single sliver of guilt crossed my mind but I tell you what my family ate a nice dinner that night.

My point exactly. Thanks bro i appreciate the back up.

Oki alumni
07-20-2008, 09:03 PM
As posted by P_chan:



So true. If I found $1000.00, that would set our women into a frenzy deciding how many "Coach" items they could buy.

The idea that I might want to upgrade my computer, is normally met with something like: "We need to save money!!!""

Ok, good idea. But why save money if I can't spend it on myself sometimes, as compared to "feeding your damned family every weekend?"

I'd still turn the money back in, but as far as our money goes, I get an itch to satisfy the "Techie" in me, and it needs to be scratched soon.

Well, maybe not.

LOL Bones, I found that out YEARS ago. Japanese women in general used to squirrel money away which was known as "sewing basket money". It works for the guys too. I just stick a little bit of "extra cash" into a savings account for my "urges"...which are usually computer related. Chuckle...I believe my wife does the same.

-Oki Alumni:old:

OtisPMerriweather
07-20-2008, 09:04 PM
Well,stealing money out of somebody's purse or wallet is wrong, straight up and down...but if I find anything from 100 yen to $10,000 laying around in the parking lot, I'm keeping it.

Just telling the truth.

vvloc
07-20-2008, 09:14 PM
wow you people are acting like this guy actually stole something.....gay......as for the person who lost the $1000.00 sorry to hear it, but don't blame other people for your mistakes, I have lost valubles but at no ones fault but my own. On a side note I have found Y10,000 several times not a single sliver of guilt crossed my mind but I tell you what my family ate a nice dinner that night.

Simple question:

Silviasichigo, if you found a wallet with the person's ID and a grand in it, would you keep the grand?

silviasichigo
07-20-2008, 09:18 PM
Is this post about someone losing a wallet with $1000.00 in it? Or is it just a reason for some dick to use for his own personal vendetta?

Daniela
07-20-2008, 09:18 PM
something doesnt make sense.. does the OP live in the towers?? if so why would you have rent money in an envelope...???

oh well maybe its just me.. best of luck to you in your search for your money

I have to give to big monsta: why would anybody living on base need rent money???
Alright..I am too tired and sun burned to figured it out right now.
Big monsta still has a point though!!!!

vvloc
07-20-2008, 09:20 PM
Is this post about someone losing a wallet with $1000.00 in it? Or is it just a reason for some dick to use for his own personal vendetta?

No, the thread has evolved to considering the morality of someone saying (6 pages back)

"I'm sorry and I guess I'm an asshole but oh well. If I find a wallet or purse I will check for money and take the money out but turn the wallet or purse to the owner or to the proper authorities."

Bones
07-20-2008, 09:21 PM
As posted by bigmonsta:

something doesnt make sense.. does the OP live in the towers?? if so why would you have rent money in an envelope...???

oh well maybe its just me.. best of luck to you in your search for your money

That was just me thinking about paying bills, and I live off-base. On the other hand, they might have needed the money to pay their own bills. That's how I'm looking at it.

And Oki, I've been married to the same woman for almost 20 years, and she's really good with money. But I certainly deserve to whine every once in a while.

Had planned on building a really nice system, until I was informed that two of her brothers have birthdays this week. Maybe come Christmas.....

P_chan
07-20-2008, 09:24 PM
something doesnt make sense.. does the OP live in the towers?? if so why would you have rent money in an envelope...???

oh well maybe its just me.. best of luck to you in your search for your money

Maybe it has something to do with all that coke being smuggled into okinawa:scratchchin:

DoctorP
07-20-2008, 09:24 PM
No jimmy, I wouldn't take it and I'm not full of shit or rich. I also wouldn't expect some type of big reward because they're rich. I'd also like to think that someone would do the same for me if I lost my wallet, but I doubt it.

Besides.....Mo money Mo problems!

You are not rich...but how do we all know that you are not full of shit? :scratchchin:


:D

DoctorP
07-20-2008, 09:26 PM
something doesnt make sense.. does the OP live in the towers?? if so why would you have rent money in an envelope...???

oh well maybe its just me.. best of luck to you in your search for your money

They didn't say that they "lived" in the towers...just lost it in the towers area. Still pretty D.U.M.B in my book.

But if it is true, I feel sorry for them.

P_chan
07-20-2008, 09:31 PM
You are not rich...but how do we all know that you are not full of shit? :scratchchin:


:D

Because I'm in the military. If I was rich I'd be living it up on some beach somewhere or driving around in my porsche 911 turbo.

silviasichigo
07-20-2008, 09:32 PM
How about this.....why don't you keep this thread (if it is actually someone who lost money) on topic with actual comments about the status of said lost money instead of turning it into a sewer for you to paly in with tony, jimmy or whatever the hell his name is. maybe you and JH should meet face to face and you can tell him how you really feel...........

For the record I was backing no one in this thread, I just know what it is like to lose a large sum of money and for it to never show back up, if I did find an envelope with $1000.00 or $1,000,000.00 I can't honestly say what I would do with it.....

dk
07-20-2008, 09:40 PM
For the record I was backing no one in this thread, I just know what it is like to lose a large sum of money and for it to never show back up, if I did find an envelope with $1000.00 or $1,000,000.00 I can't honestly say what I would do with it.....
How about if it were a wallet with identification in it?

For the record, I'm pretty sure I'm making less money than Tony right now, and even I wouldn't keep it. Why? Because it'd be a shitty thing to do.

carms328
07-20-2008, 09:48 PM
Honestly, if I found an envelope with cash in it on base (especially $1000, geez) I would turn it in. They might have to pull that envelope out of my hands though... with the little good angel on my shoulder praising me and the other calling me a sucker, haha.

I've had my purse stolen before in college with a nice camera, $100 or so, wallet, etc and never had it recovered. Stinks big time! However, I found a wallet that same year holding a nice amount of cash, personal info, and when I looked at the drivers license... it was the county sheriff's wallet, haha. Never had problems with speeding tickets after that! It was a small town though. But there can be some good payoffs to doing the right thing sometimes, besides a clear conscience.

I hope that things turn out okay for the person who lost the $$. I really doubt that it will be returned, but I do hope that they find a way to make ends meet this month.

Oki alumni
07-20-2008, 10:02 PM
wow you people are acting like this guy actually stole something.....gay......as for the person who lost the $1000.00 sorry to hear it, but don't blame other people for your mistakes, I have lost valubles but at no ones fault but my own. On a side note I have found Y10,000 several times not a single sliver of guilt crossed my mind but I tell you what my family ate a nice dinner that night.

You've GOT IT, but you do NOT "get it". This guy DID, in effect steal something. Money that didn't belong to him. Legally it runs something like this. Taking money or a thing of monetary value which does NOT belong to the receiver, and converting it to personal use, constitutes theft. The value of the money or item, would constitute the seriousness of this theft, ranging from "petit larceny" to "grand larceny". Get it? Something that does NOT belong to the person in possession of it, and who does NOT intend on returning it, is...stealing...theft.

Now WHY are we running two separate threads on the same subject?

-Oki Alumni:old:

DoctorP
07-20-2008, 10:07 PM
Two seperate threads because "allegedly" two different people lost $1,000 in the same week.

Feel free not to participate in one or both of the threads.

Oki alumni
07-20-2008, 10:09 PM
Two seperate threads because "allegedly" two different people lost $1,000 in the same week.

Feel free not to participate in one or both of the threads.

...or wreck havoc in both? :w00t:

If anyone lost $1,000 with a red rubber band holding the bundle together.....I found the red rubber band!:D

-Oki Alumni:old:

vvloc
07-20-2008, 10:10 PM
You've GOT IT, but you do NOT "get it". This guy DID, in effect steal something. Money that didn't belong to him. Legally it runs something like this. Taking money or a thing of monetary value which does NOT belong to the receiver, and converting it to personal use, constitutes theft. The value of the money or item, would constitute the seriousness of this theft, ranging from "petit larceny" to "grand larceny". Get it? Something that does NOT belong to the person in possession of it, and who does NOT intend on returning it, is...stealing...theft.

Now WHY are we running two separate threads on the same subject?

-Oki Alumni:old:

Da*n - if it don't take a fellow old(e) coot (like me) to break it down to the simplistic notions that were a part of the world that we grew up in - thanks again, Oki, for simplifying and clarifying something that was the basics of the lives we were raised in.

Dare, I ever take something from someone in my school, I'd get hit by the teacher, rapped by the principal, thrown out of the candy store on the way home, scolded up a blue streak by the police crossing guard near my home, and then when I finally did get home, the ole strap would be waiting for me.

That was life in small town america.

dk
07-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Now WHY are we running two separate threads on the same subject?
Because two separate people wanted to tell the forum that they lost money this week.

Oki alumni
07-20-2008, 10:14 PM
Because two separate people wanted to tell the forum that they lost money this week.

LOL, MY bad...DocP done already slapped me upside th' head wid a wet stinkin' trout! Duly noted, and thanks DK.

-Oki Alumni

silviasichigo
07-20-2008, 10:15 PM
Sorry Bud I absolutely get it....and I said before I was not "Getting his back" I have turned in a few wallets in my day most were already cashless...however pertaining to the OP it has nothing to do with a wallet but a mere evenlope with no identifiying markins mentioned so too bad for her.....I know what theft is and if I am not clear I can look in a dictionary thanks for the useless posts....but I do like to argue so

DK I have been in your boat except in my case there was a couple of Thou in the jacket with my wallet, car-house keys....again I never said JH was right

vvloc
07-20-2008, 10:27 PM
I'm out:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0eknfuix8