Dog Kills Owner

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

From Japan Today (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/town-official-killed-by-his-dog)


A senior municipal official of Mizumaki, Fukuoka Prefecture, was killed by his dog Monday morning, police said. Tadashi Naganuma, 56, was found collapsed in the cage of the 4-year-old male Tosa dog, with bites to his whole body. His 81-year-old father and two other men tried to rescue him, but they were also attacked by the dog, police said.

The father sustained serious injuries to his face and arms, while the two men sustained minor injuries, according to police. They said they believe Naganuma was assaulted while he was taking care of the dog.

Tosa-inu are often bred as fighting dogs. They're from Kouchi prefecture (formerly Tosa han), and are used in dog sumo.

http://www.moloss.com/breeds/stuvx/t002/tosa03.jpg

Where do you think the Gracies got the Octagon from? It's been used here for dog sumo for decades.

http://www.shaku1.com/tosaken2.JPG

[hankypanky]

That's what happens when you try to mount a dog that big:D

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

Ya gotta figure, if a dog kills it's master, then that's one dysfunctional relationship.

[Sex Wax]

The Tosa Inu is considered to be the "Sumo" fighting dog of Japan, being large and powerful and persistent. Tradition requires that the Tosa Inu be led into the ring between two human handlers rather than just one as are most of the other breeds and it is possible that both people are actually needed for the Tosa Inu is a very strong and powerful breed. In weight pulls a single dog has been known to pull as much as 3,800 pounds.

- http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Tosa-Inu,-Sumo-Dog-of-Japan&id=234745

http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/sumo%20dogs%202.jpg

http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/sumo%20dogs.jpg

[hankypanky]

:ohmy:
I need to get one of those dogs!

They like popcorn:grin1:

[Maggie]

:ohmy:
I need to get one of those dogs!

No you don't :eek: Get a guarding breed not a fighting breed.

They're beautiful dogs, but they need a lot of work put into them as puppies, if they're going to be handler proof.

Maggie

[hankypanky]

No you don't :eek: Get a guarding breed not a fighting breed.

They're beautiful dogs, but they need a lot of work put into them as puppies, if they're going to be handler proof.

Maggie

If not you can eat them later:D

[Tanimaga]

The Tosa is a Mastiff/Molossar offshoot similiar to my dog (if not direct lineage). They are highly intelligent, strong, and excellent guard dogs. Very suprising something like this happened. Mine's a big baby.

[Crazysix]

The Tosa is a Mastiff/Molossar offshoot similiar to my dog (if not direct lineage). They are highly intelligent, strong, and excellent guard dogs. Very suprising something like this happened. Mine's a big baby.

not really if you breed a pekingese to fight it will attack eventually

[Tanimaga]

If I'm not mistaken, the Tosa is bred and trained for Sumo style "wrestling", and prized for not losing control against opponents. Not a bloodsport style dog, although they are built for it. But, all animals have their own limits, personalities, and instincts.

[hankypanky]

sorta like okinawa "bullfighting"

[Tanimaga]

I'll put money on my Mastiff against the toughest Pekingese out there! :first:

[TheNoNamedOne]

Ah, the poetic justice of evil creator killed by that which he created.

[Bones]

The fire is lit, bring the dog over for the barbie.:grin1:

[Stephie098]

I'll put money on my Mastiff against the toughest Pekingese out there! :first:

Me too, all they gotta do is sit on them. My pup is roughly 120 lbs at just over a year old.

[gibbonboy]

I don't know about yapper dogs, but my friend's mastiff is terrified of my cat. She won't even come into my house without coaxing and pulling. And the cat has been pretty nice to her for at least a year. One day maybe she'll realize how big she really is, and when she does the cat better be scarce.

[CaptainMcLusty]

No you don't :eek: Get a guarding breed not a fighting breed.

They're beautiful dogs, but they need a lot of work put into them as puppies, if they're going to be handler proof.

Maggie

I don't think there are any "bad breeds". Any dog will become aggressive if it is not raised properly. Whether its a pitbull or pomeranian, I think the majority of a dogs behavior and temperment comes from the owner.

When I was a vet. tech., I was much more cautious arounds poodles and chihuahuas than I ever was around pittbulls, mastiffs, rottweiler, or any other stereotypically "Scary" dog, because it was always the "good breeds" that bit me....Stupid Cocker Spaniels.......:cursing:

[Old guy]

Ya gotta figure, if a dog kills it's master, then that's one dysfunctional relationship.

sounds similar to many marriages

[Trail]

A dog is only as good as it's handler/owner. Something was definately amiss with this relationship.

[xxzjxx]

i hate pittbulls, they are terrible pets and smell like cheese.

[Zorro]

Dog Kills Owner

Who is the "own"er now?

Perhaps the dog should be referred to as the "pwner"?

[Zorro]

Islandfever0ki:
I don't think there are any "bad breeds".

it was always the "good breeds" that bit me....Stupid Cocker Spaniels.......


You seem rather conflicted.

I believe that mental traits are inheritable, traits such as a tendency toward insanity. Dog breeds can carry mental traits as well as physical. Naturally, none of it is absolute. Craziness may run in a family, but that does mean they are all nuts. Not all pitbulls are psycho, surely. But man, when they ARE psycho, look out.

Anyhow, it seems to me that the "good breeds" are just the "pretty" ones, not the smart ones nor the stable ones. My experience has also been that Cocker Spaniels are pretty stupid, as are the dog connosieurs who breed and buy dogs on appearance alone.

[CaptainMcLusty]

You seem rather conflicted.

I believe that mental traits are inheritable, traits such as a tendency toward insanity. Dog breeds can carry mental traits as well as physical. Naturally, none of it is absolute. Craziness may run in a family, but that does mean they are all nuts. Not all pitbulls are psycho, surely. But man, when they ARE psycho, look out.

Anyhow, it seems to me that the "good breeds" are just the "pretty" ones, not the smart ones nor the stable ones. My experience has also been that Cocker Spaniels are pretty stupid, as are the dog connosieurs who breed and buy dogs on appearance alone.


I'm not conflicted, I was just saying that the perceived "Good breeds" were usually the ones that were so poorly trained and disciplined that they would bite.

[L Boogie]

I'm not conflicted, I was just saying that the perceived "Good breeds" were usually the ones that were so poorly trained and disciplined that they would bite.


I would have to agree. People think that because they have a lab, a goldie, or a foo foo dog, they don't need to take it to obedience and socialize it.

My Pit Bulls are better behaved and trained than the majority of "friendly" breeds here.

[slickmetal]

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true story

[Maggie]

If not you can eat them later:D

True:)

Maggie

[Maggie]

I don't think there are any "bad breeds". Any dog will become aggressive if it is not raised properly. Whether its a pitbull or pomeranian, I think the majority of a dogs behavior and temperment comes from the owner.

When I was a vet. tech., I was much more cautious arounds poodles and chihuahuas than I ever was around pittbulls, mastiffs, rottweiler, or any other stereotypically "Scary" dog, because it was always the "good breeds" that bit me....Stupid Cocker Spaniels.......:cursing:

Cocker spaniels are pretty much top of the biting list here, followed hotly by Yorkshire terriers and Pomeranians.

Guarding breeds are easier to train than Mastiffs, and would still die for you.

Mind I am biased.

Maggie

[Maggie]

i hate pittbulls, they are terrible pets and smell like cheese.

Rubbish.

Maggie

[Maggie]

not really if you breed a pekingese to fight it will attack eventually

I could write loads about why it happened, but I can't be bothered.
The situation and timing has to be JUST right, for a dog to turn on it's owner, with the intentions of killing him.

Maggie

[Maggie]

I don't think there are any "bad breeds". Any dog will become aggressive if it is not raised properly. Whether its a pitbull or pomeranian, I think the majority of a dogs behavior and temperment comes from the owner.

When I was a vet. tech., I was much more cautious arounds poodles and chihuahuas than I ever was around pittbulls, mastiffs, rottweiler, or any other stereotypically "Scary" dog, because it was always the "good breeds" that bit me....Stupid Cocker Spaniels.......:cursing:

There aren't any truly bad dogs, but some are much easier to train and manage.

I wanted a Rotty, but I got a Doberman. If a Rott wants to fight, and a lot do, it needs a man at the end of the lead. I wouldn't be strong enough.

Maggie

[Maggie]

I'm not conflicted, I was just saying that the perceived "Good breeds" were usually the ones that were so poorly trained and disciplined that they would bite.

Some of the worst dogs here for turning on their owners, are Golden Retrievers and Black and Yellow labs.

They aquired a reputation of being the perfect family dog, and were over bred with no thought of temprament, physical and mental defects, until things began to go wrong.

Maggie

[Maggie]

I'm not conflicted, I was just saying that the perceived "Good breeds" were usually the ones that were so poorly trained and disciplined that they would bite.

There's also a lot more of them, so the bite avarage is a lot higher.

Maggie

[Maggie]

Pitbulls have been given a bad reputation!
They are not bad dogs,where i grew up people used to train them to fight or attack people,but if you train them to be loving caring dogs they CAN be!
They can even be trusted with babies,I have seen it firsthand!
And stop sniffing dogs!:D

I've never met or trained a nasty pit-bull, and I must have trained upward of three hundred dogs.

I've been bitten by Red Setters, Dalmatians, loads of GSD's (not my own though) and a Standard Poodle, but never by a Rottweiller or a Pit-Bull.

Maggie

[uriel]

I'm confused, you didn't want a rott because if it decides to bite you and maul you it will, so you got a doberman? Just seems strange to me...

EDIT: I'm an idiot. I thought you meant that if it was gonna attack you you ain't strong enough. Now that I read it with both eyes I got it. I just suck at life today.