DoDDS Teacher Arrested in Sex Case

[DoctorP]

DoDDS Teacher Arrested In Sex Case (http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=55106&archive=true)

Read the link for yourself. This guy has warrants out for him for crimes in the 70's and 80's, and he's been teaching on Okinawa for 20 years??? How the hell does that happen? :eek:


“These allegations date back to the late 1970s and early 80s,” he said. “There have been no allegations made by our students or teachers during his employment in DODDS-Pacific.”



I bet that is what many Catholic Cardinals said too...then the sH#) hit the fan didn't it! I'm sure something will come up now...true or not!

[dk]

Wait, so he was found guilty some 20 years ago or so and they just now found him? Nobody knew he was in Japan?

[DoctorP]

Wait, so he was found guilty some 20 years ago or so and they just now found him? Nobody knew he was in Japan?

No, no, wait!


He is awaiting extradition to Kentucky to face four charges of third-degree sodomy of a 15-year-old male student and third-degree rape of a 15-year old female student in the late 1970s and early 1980s.


He had a warrant out for his arrest! Evidently Kentucky isn't too high tech when it comes to tracking down criminals!

[TheNoNamedOne]

Wait, so he was found guilty some 20 years ago ...

No. Allegations were ignored 20 years ago.

[dk]

He had a warrant out for his arrest! Evidently Kentucky isn't too high tech when it comes to tracking down criminals!
Apparently not! :(

[TheNoNamedOne]

I don't think it says that a warrant for his arrest has been outstanding for 20 years. It seems to be saying that the warrant for his arrest now stems from charges filed now that 20 years ago he sexually abused them. The charges are new, and are based on new allegations that old allegations were ignored or covered up.

[DoctorP]

I don't think it says that a warrant for his arrest has been outstanding for 20 years. It seems to be saying that the warrant for his arrest now stems from charges filed now that 20 years ago he sexually abused them. The charges are new, and are based on new allegations that old allegations were ignored or covered up.

shhhhhhH! That makes the story less sensational!:p Point being, I bet someone comes out of the woodwork here on Okinawa now (whether it is true or not!).

[TheNoNamedOne]

Oh, sorry. I thought you wanted forthright discussion based on accuracy, not misleading discussion. My bad.

[DoctorP]

Oh, sorry. I thought you wanted forthright discussion based on accuracy, not misleading discussion. My bad.

The accuracy would be that he has been arrested, for sex crimes, committed 20 to 30 years ago.

Feel free to discuss that part...rather than to dwell on the part whether he was a fugitive of justice or not! Actually, no matter what, he was a fugitive...the police just didn't realize that until recently!

[TheNoNamedOne]

The accuracy would be that he has been arrested, for sex crimes, committed 20 to 30 years ago.

Yes, an accurate statement -- at last.

[DoctorP]

Yes, an accurate statement -- at last.

Like that wasn't said earlier? Are you hiding on Okinawa for some reason?:confused:

[TheNoNamedOne]

Actually, no matter what, he was a fugitive...the police just didn't realize that until recently!

Yes, but not for 20 years. He became a fugitive once the victims had pressed charges -- and I didn't see that charges were filed 20 years ago. I get the feeling from the story that these charges have recently been filed.

In any case, I am glad to see everyone is getting their day in court. If he is guilty, then he needs to do the time. If not, and these are fictitious allegations pulling someone's name through the muck then the accuser needs to be seriously punished. I am sure the defense attorney is going to wonder aloud in court if the lady who is now a drug addict is looking for someone to blame for her terrible life and make them pay.

The recent La Cross/stripper rape case comes to mind when drug addicts are brought before a judge with accusations. I am not saying they are all liars, but that scrutiny needs to be racheted up a notch.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Are you hiding on Okinawa for some reason?:confused:

Childish flame.

[DoctorP]

Childish flame.

You have no sense of humor.

Thank you for finally making a contribution to the thread.
I think that it is very possible these are valid claims. We are talking about the South here in the 70's and 80's, it wouldn't be so far fetched for this to have happened. If he goes down, he won't be the only one, according to the story there were many peole who (may have) covered these allegations up!

Although...it is strange that it would take so long to come to light. Then again, look at how many cardinals came tumbling down because little boys grew into young men!

[TheNoNamedOne]

You have no sense of humor.

Well, it is easy to justify all flames as humor. Anyone can do that.

Thank you for finally making a contribution to the thread.

Definitely saw a need for infusing some accuracy from the article. It was going unnoticed.

[DoctorP]

Well, it is easy to justify all flames as humor. Anyone can do that.



If you weren't so paranoid, maybe you wouldn't see everything as a personal attack!

Definitely saw a need for infusing some accuracy from the article. It was going unnoticed.

It wasn't unnoticed, it was left out intentionally for someone else to add in, but unfortunately you came along first.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Although...it is strange that it would take so long to come to light. Then again, look at how many cardinals came tumbling down because little boys grew into young men!

Strange, indeed.

As for the priests and the Catholic Church, there have always been sex scandals and rumors of them throughout its history. Just only recently have they made the jump to court and litigation.

I am not sure if there has ever been a sex ring case of several teachers, a counselor, and a principal involved in such a thing. Just because there never has been is no reason to rule out the possibility here, but I think it makes the probability lower.

I am still wondering about the lives these accusors now lead. We know one is a drug addict.

[TheNoNamedOne]

If you weren't so paranoid, maybe you wouldn't see everything as a personal attack!



It wasn't unnoticed, it was left out intentionally for someone else to add in, but unfortunately you came along first.

Yeah, yeah. More petty insults and flaming which you justify as humor.

[DoctorP]

The fact that she is a drug addict should not automatically cause someone to discredit her claim. I think it is wise to take it to court, and see what plays out. As we have seen in recent years, teachers seem to "partake" quite often with their young students!

[TheNoNamedOne]

The fact that she is a drug addict should not automatically cause someone to discredit her claim.

I agree. I don't discredit it. But I think it raises the intensity of scrutiny of her allegations, or it should, and I am sure defense lawyers will latch on to that hard.

I think it is wise to take it to court, and see what plays out.

Agreed.

As we have seen in recent years, teachers seem to "partake" quite often with their young students!

Yes, there have been some high profile cases recently. But I don't recall anything like several teachers or staff in the same school in collusion with one another over sex acts, do you?

[DoctorP]

Yes, there have been some high profile cases recently. But I don't recall anything like several teachers or staff in the same school in collusion with one another over sex acts, do you?

No.

I am unsure where you lived in the US, but I spent 20 years in the South, and it would not surprise me if this came up and several people tried to hide it or make it go away. It's the "good 'ol boy" system. The sherrifs, judges, DA's etc... they all golf, hunt, fish together and it would not surprise me one bit. Similar to the military if you ask me. Something happens, and many people try to hide it (like Haditha) then the Sh(T hits the fan!

[TheNoNamedOne]

Could very well be a "good ol' boy" network. However, usually good ol' boy networks follow a pretty strict kind of membership. Usually they do not cross gender lines if they are going so far as illegal activity. And usually they are status quo based in a conservative type society and profession.

Kentucky is a borderline North/South state so it doesn't fit that stereotype of good ol' boys. Also, look at the profession. Teachers! Teachers are really liberal. Rogue teachers as individuals having sex with their students? Sure, I can see that. But a network of them acting in collusion as good ol' boys? I don't think it fits the profile.

Though, we will see.

[TheNoNamedOne]

If you were a bookie making odds that this group of teachers and admin actually did do what the allegations say, and with only the information we have now, what odds would you give?

[DoctorP]

If you were a bookie making odds that this group of teachers and admin actually did do what the allegations say, and with only the information we have now, what odds would you give?

I don't bet, so I will not go there. But, I think you are looking at this wrong. We will just have to wait and see I guess. But, he (the teacher) would not have been arrested if the police didn't believe that there was something to this allegation.


Here is a link to a better article: http://www.kentucky.com/179/story/120603.html

Imagine that...finding a better source than S&S :rolleyes:

[TheNoNamedOne]

But, I think you are looking at this wrong.

I don't think being skeptical of a charge 20 years later made by a drug addict is looking at anything wrong. I am not saying she is lying, just saying that this situation requires a heightened sense of skepticism -- along with the lower probability that there was collusion amongst several school staff in what appears to be a kind of sex ring. Just sounds rather fantastical -- BUT ... it could be true. I don't discount the possibility, just saying the probability seems low.

We will just have to wait and see I guess. But, he (the teacher) would not have been arrested if the police didn't believe that there was something to this allegation.

Sure, and the police and prosecutor thought there was something to the allegation of the drug addict stripper that accused the Duke lacrosse players.

[DoctorP]

Make sure you go back to my last post and read that link...I may have posted late, and you could have missed it.

*edit* I'm not out to "burn" this guy...I know him, but that doesn't mean I am naive enought not to lend weight to the accusations. If half of the allegations are true, this guy shouldn't be around kids!

[DoctorP]

Sure, and the police and prosecutor thought there was something to the allegation of the drug addict stripper that accused the Duke lacrosse players.

Don't tell me, at the time of the story, that you didn't believe that it could be true. Even though it involved a group of rich, white college boys and a stripper!

[TheNoNamedOne]

Make sure you go back to my last post and read that link...I may have posted late, and you could have missed it.

Read it. Interesting. The most damning thing seems to be the letters. It raises my eyebrow a little higher.

IN any event. S&S's story doesn't do justice to the news. I am not saying they should devote as much space as that pieces did, but surely they could have added a little more of the evidence into it.

*edit* I'm not out to "burn" this guy...I know him, but that doesn't mean I am naive enought not to lend weight to the accusations. If half of the allegations are true, this guy shouldn't be around kids!

Agreed.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Don't tell me, at the time of the story, that you didn't believe that it could be true. Even though it involved a group of rich, white college boys and a stripper!

I think all police charges could be true, that story, as well as this one now. But "could be" is just the flip side of "could not be". By saying one the other is automatically there as well.

[DoctorP]

I have moved all offtopic discussion about the zoo to this (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=605) thread. Feel free to continue discussion in either thread, but please keep them on topic!

[swindland]

CRAZY!!!:cursing:

[okifamily3]

WTF!?! That's messed up. DODDS obviously doesn't do thier homework!

[Mapit8888]

20 years ago when that information was needed, it probably wasn't as accessible as it is now. I think that they should start a yearly background check on current employees. I worked in a youth sports office before and we did checks on the coaches every year. Whether we knew them of not. I think that it would be best at the beginning of each school year.

[Old Timer]

Questioners should be sent to all male students starting from the 1st year of this person’s employment concerning non-consensual corn holing. <3

[DougP]

:w00t: another immortal thread that just wont die.:)

[DoctorP]

An update for an old thread!

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=59461

By David Allen, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Thursday, December 18, 2008
CAMP FOSTER, Okinawa — A former Kubasaki High School teacher was indicted by a Kentucky grand jury Monday on charges of sodomy and rape.

According to a story published by the Lexington Herald-Leader, Jack Russell Hubbard, 61, remains free on bond pending a court date. His passport was revoked as a condition of his bond.

The charges stem from sexual abuse allegations made by two students dating back to the late 1970s when Hubbard was a science teacher in Fayette County. The indictments include four charges of first-degree sodomy and one count of first-degree rape. They involve one female and one male student.

The charges originated from a high-profile sex abuse lawsuit filed by a former student, Carol Lynne Maner, against the Fayette County School Board in 2007. She accused the board of ignoring reports that Hubbard and several other teachers and administrators in the school district sexually abused students in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

A jury awarded her $3.7 million. An appeal by the school board is pending.

Hubbard, who retired from Department of Defense Dependents Schools last summer, was arrested July 9, 2007, in Johnstown, Pa., while visiting family.

He left Kentucky in 1981 and went on to teach in DODDS schools in Europe and Okinawa for 26 years. DODDS officials said there were no allegations from students stemming from his 18 years on Okinawa.



Just to show how quickly the wheels of justice work in the U.S.A. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dude will be dead before he is either aquitted or found guilty!

[ryukyuboi]

http://badbadteacher.com/jack-russell-hubbard/

[dk]

This just in: Another DoDDS teacher was found to be excessively overweight.

[Sex Wax]

This just in: Another DoDDS teacher was found to be excessively overweight.

I call B.S. on this one. Pics, or it's not true.

[ryukyuboi]

An update for an old thread!

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=59461



Just to show how quickly the wheels of justice work in the U.S.A. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dude will be dead before he is either aquitted or found guilty!

The "Dude" is still living and found guilty.

[Oceandreamer]

The "Dude" is still living and found guilty.



teacher was indicted not found guilty yet

[wineilove]

It looks like he was caught in the end (like everything in life) - it all comes out in the wash.

[ryukyuboi]

He is in prison.

[DougP]

- it all comes out in the wash.

I have some ink stains on a pair of pants that beg to differ. :)