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Muku
04-22-2008, 02:24 PM
Here is something, food for thought, about the archaic system here regarding rape and rape investigations here in Japan.

There are plenty of articles about this case in the link here but please take a moment to read this.....Japan definitely needs change here.:cursing:

Victims finally learning to speak out against Japan’s outdated rape laws
http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/victims-are-finally-learning-to-speak-out-against-japan%e2%80%99s-outdated-rape-laws

I have included the entire article purely because Japan Today does not keep it's articles posted on the web for any length of time. Links expire rather quickly and for the purpose of continuity on this thread I posted the entire article.

TOKYO —
The car slowly pulls beside a deserted parking lot. The police officer turns to the woman, asking about the point where “it” happened. She looks up in an incredulous state, struggling to believe that the very people who are supposed to protect her are the same ones who have taken her back to this horrible place — the place that, no matter how hard she tries to forget, is scorched into her memory.

It is here, in this parking lot near the Yokosuka U.S. Navy Base, where “Jane” became a rape victim. Yet, as horrible as the crime was, it is Jane’s efforts to seek help and, later, justice, that has monumentally changed the course of her life.

For the last six years, Jane has been fighting to change the way Japan deals with its rape victims. She has recently broken her media silence and, in the past several months, held numerous press conferences and spoken before crowds of thousands of activists. Yet until Japan’s century-old laws are changed and the support network for victims improves, women like Jane will be forced to watch their attackers walk free while enduring what amounts to a second assault by the criminal justice system.

Much of what happened on April 6, 2002, remains a blur to Jane. The Australia native, in her late 30s, was waiting for her boyfriend in a bar in Yokosuka, near the American military base. The next thing she recalls is snapping out of a daze, in her car, as a man sexually assaulted her. After the brutal assault, the stranger walked off and Jane staggered out of the vehicle looking for help.

But the nightmare was, in a sense, just beginning. Jane’s first move was to report the assault to the office of the Yokosuka Military Police. Because it occurred outside of the base, the Kanagawa prefectural police were called in. When they arrived, Jane was questioned in the base’s front security office before being taken back to the scene of the crime, and eventually to Kanagawa police station for more questioning in a room filled with male officers. Though she repeatedly asked to be taken to a hospital, all her requests were denied. “I was informed that on-duty doctors are for urgent patients — and rape victims are not urgent,” Jane recalls.

Instead of calling for a doctor or a counselor, the officers interrogated Jane for several hours. Unbelievably, they asked her to point out where on her body she was injured. Jane needed to go to the bathroom but didn’t want to destroy any evidence — she was wearing no underwear and still had traces of the rapist’s sperm on her body — so she decided to wait until she could get to the hospital for testing. She also suspects she was drugged, but because the police did not perform any blood tests, she can’t say for sure.

“After the questioning, I was not immediately permitted to get a medical exam, but was instead taken back to the scene of the crime,” she explains. Less than a week later, she was asked to return again to the parking lot to re-enact the exact positions that she was put in for a police photographer. Unable to bring herself to do this, she gave directions to a male and female police officer as they entwined their bodies.

The Kanagawa police found Jane’s attacker that same night. U.S. Navy Serviceman Bloke T Deans, who was in his 30s, was taken to Kanagawa Police Station for questioning and released. For reasons that are still unclear, they declined to file criminal charges. This is hardly uncommon: in 2006, the most recent year for which figures are available, 1,948 rapes were reported in Japan, but only 1,058 perpetrators were arrested.

After the police failed to bring criminal charges against Deans, Jane filed a civil suit against him. But then the affair took another heartbreaking turn. In August 2003, the day before the case was to be heard in the Tokyo District Court, Deans’ lawyer resigned, claiming he was “unable to find” his client. “The U.S. Navy later told me that Deans was discharged from the USS Kitty Hawk in November 2002,” Jane says. “We have been unable to track him down.” In November 2004, Jane won her civil court case against Deans, and was awarded 3 million yen compensation. But three and a half years on, she has yet to receive any of the money. Deans remains a free man.

Unfortunately, Jane’s ordeal is hardly an isolated case. Japan’s official rape figures paint only a small part of a larger, sadder picture. The National Police Agency’s annual report shows the number of reported rapes began rising in 1997. In 2003 that number hit a high of 2,472, and since has slowly decreased.

Only 11% of sexual crimes reported

A 2000 study by the Justice Ministry Research Group, meanwhile, showed that only about 11% of sexual crimes committed in Japan were reported. The Tokyo Rape Crisis Center believes the situation may be even worse. “It has been said that there are 10-20 hidden victims for every one that we know about,” says spokewoman Naomi Tjima. “In Japan, rape is a crime that requires a ‘formal complaint’ by a victim. Many cases end up in the settlement out of court, and rapists go free.”

In 2006, Japan’s Gender Equality Bureau released a study titled “Violence Between Men and Women.” Of the 1,578 female respondents, 7.2% said they had been raped “at least once.” Sixty-seven percent of these rapes were perpetrated by someone the victim “knew well,” and 19% by someone they had “seen before.” Only 5.3% of the victims reported the crime to the police — around 6 people out of 114 cases. Of those who remained silent, nearly 40% said they didn’t step forward because they were “embarrassed.”

A Reuters report from May 2007 sheds further light on the situation. “Activists and lawyers say that sentiment toward rape victims remains chilly in a society where many feel the woman may have led the man on, she is lying, or that she could have fought back,” the article says, and goes on to explain that common “rape myths,” which have long been discounted by experts in other countries, still exist in Japan. “Contrary to the law, there is still a widespread belief that only assaults by strangers can be defined as rape.”

“There is no Rape Shield Law like in the United States and Canada, which protects victims from insensitive questions,” explains Hisako Motoyama, Executive Director of the Asia Japan Women’s Resource Center (AJWRC), a gender equality advocacy group founded in 1977. “Victims may even be asked, ‘Why didn’t you fight harder?’”

Victim asked how many people she had slept with

Facing cultural stigmas and insensitive police, it is little surprise that victims seek help from their friends rather than the law. Jane describes a recent rape trial she attended in Tokyo, during which the plaintiff, who prefers to remain unnamed, was asked questions like “How many people have you slept with?” and “Were you good at sports in school?”

The issue of rape in Japan was brought to light last year at the 38th session of The United Nations Committee Against Torture (CAT) in Geneva. The mission of the 10-person international committee is to monitor compliance with a human rights protocol to which Japan became a signatory in 1999.

After reviewing a report compiled by AJWRC and The World Organization Against Torture called “Violations of Women’s Rights in Japan,” the panel recommended that there should be “better protection and appropriate care for such [Japanese] victims.” They also showed concern that “efforts by officials were too focused on the crime and criminal, while ignoring the victim’s needs in aftermath of the often traumatizing ordeals they have been through.”
On March 23, Jane shared her story with 6,000 people in Okinawa at a rally against the American military’s presence in Japan. The gathering was sparked by the February case of 38-year-old American Marine Sgt Tyrone Luther Hadnott, who was accused of raping a local 14-year-old. The charges were dropped when the girl and her family pleaded for privacy.

Indeed, the local support system — especially for foreign women — is woefully inadequate. There are only two rape crisis centers in Japan, located in Tokyo and Okinawa. With limited funding, the Tokyo Rape Crisis Center only accepts calls for three hours, two days a week. Operators speak Japanese only.

Groups like the AJWRC, meanwhile, are fighting for the rights of women. “The current system for dealing with rape victims has fundamental flaws,” says Motoyama. “The criminal law was enacted 100 years ago, and there have been very few changes since.”

In May 2000 the Law for the Protection of Victims of Crime was enacted. This law improved some measures of victim support and protection, as well as allowing rape victims a time frame of ten years to make a formal complaint to the police. Although this was a step in the right direction, there is still a long way to go.


end part one......


Link to Part Two..... (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5545)

hankypanky
04-22-2008, 08:25 PM
sucks:cursing:

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
04-22-2008, 08:32 PM
"Better not get raped in Japan laides"?! WTF?!?! Would getting raped in America be better? Do victims bear the brunt of responsibility? That has got to be the winner hands-down for the most insensitive and offensive thread title. Tops in tastelessness :thumbdown:

Muku
04-22-2008, 08:48 PM
"Better not get raped in Japan laides"?! WTF?!?! Would getting raped in America be better? Do victims bear the brunt of responsibility? That has got to be the winner hands-down for the most insensitive and offensive thread title. Tops in tastelessness :thumbdown:

You know what your opinion doesnt matter but I will say this it got you to read the post.

Edited to add...

I should thank you for giving it your seal of approval. :p

icejingles
04-22-2008, 08:50 PM
"Better not get raped in Japan laides"?! WTF?!?! Would getting raped in America be better? Do victims bear the brunt of responsibility? That has got to be the winner hands-down for the most insensitive and offensive thread title. Tops in tastelessness :thumbdown:


I don't know about you... but I'd rather get raped in Iceland... or maybe... Iunno.

Muku
04-22-2008, 09:00 PM
I don't know about you... but I'd rather get raped in Iceland... or maybe... Iunno.

Ice dont let that crap get to ya......:D

It is pure ignorance, and stupidity on anyone's part to think that I advocate anyone getting raped anywhere.

icejingles
04-22-2008, 09:02 PM
Nah, don't worry about it, I was only joking around.

P_chan
04-22-2008, 09:02 PM
You know where I wouldn't want to be raped? I the ass.....


But, this truly is a sad tale and it's sad that rape is treated the way it is over here.

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
04-22-2008, 11:50 PM
It is pure ignorance, and stupidity on anyone's part to think that I advocate anyone getting raped anywhere.
The only ignorance here is in your title Muku. Your phrasing suggests you think women have some sort of control over the actions of men sick enough to rape. Don't go and get raped now, ya hear! Shows a complete lack of respect towards women.

Advocating for women to take extra precautions to avoid rapists and to avoid sending any sort of signal that could be misinterpreted to would-be rapists would be a much better choice of words.

radool
04-23-2008, 04:24 AM
<NotsoNinjaEdit>
Took comment out of context, thought Eel was making suggestion instead he was just mocking OP. I still have to agree with OP, the title of the post directly relates to the article and does draw attention. </edit>

badkitty
04-23-2008, 05:47 AM
I am still trying to figure out how we females can avoid rapists... Shall we stay indoors with the doors and windows locked? Or should we hire bodyguards? Here's a better one, impose a curfew so we aren't out after dark??? While I was in Iraq in 04, a female Airmen was raped in BROAD DAYLIGHT in uniform. He attacker knocked her on the head with a rock and drug her behind the BX.

So, if someone could PLEASE tell me how we can avoid getting raped, please let me know... Thanks!

Muku
04-23-2008, 06:14 AM
I am still trying to figure out how we females can avoid rapists... Shall we stay indoors with the doors and windows locked? Or should we hire bodyguards? Here's a better one, impose a curfew so we aren't out after dark??? While I was in Iraq in 04, a female Airmen was raped in BROAD DAYLIGHT in uniform. He attacker knocked her on the head with a rock and drug her behind the BX.

So, if someone could PLEASE tell me how we can avoid getting raped, please let me know... Thanks!

Since you are female here.....:D

Does the title of this thread offensive to you as a female?

Or did it grab your attention, as my intent is, and get you to read the thread?

badkitty
04-23-2008, 07:14 AM
It didn't offend me at all. It did grab my attention. But it still bothers me that people think that women 'attract' rapists.

P_chan
04-23-2008, 07:52 AM
I see eel will only attack one person if they make offensive thread titles.

Anyone else...."Oh he was just trying to grab members attention....and it worked!":rolleyes:

Muku
04-23-2008, 08:02 AM
It didn't offend me at all. It did grab my attention. But it still bothers me that people think that women 'attract' rapists.

I agree with you about the dark ages type of thinking that some/many? here have about women attracting rapists.

The chauvanistic society here is changing for the better but not out of a desire for equality in my opinion, but due to the economic fact that without women businesses and the economy would fail.

You wouldnt believe the stories I could sit here and tell you about men here and how they have mistreated women. It is a sad part of society here.

Thanks for your reply.:thumbup:

Tempestuous
04-23-2008, 02:26 PM
Saw a snip-it in passing on the Sunday paper as I walked by,
that stated the rape statistics here were 1 out of 8 women have been raped.....
Didn't read the article, but thought that was pretty grim. (don't know if that was specific to where we are or the US in general)

So if you looked at that statistic, a decent portion of the ladies around the forum could have already been victims of rape.

thistle
04-23-2008, 02:34 PM
Since you are female here.....:D

Does the title of this thread offensive to you as a female?

Or did it grab your attention, as my intent is, and get you to read the thread?

Think Eel was just attacking you.

I remember that thread I made before had a similiar title - 'When in Japan don't cry rape'.]
No comments were made about that being offensive.

It is attention grabbing, and would make you go on to read the post.

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
04-23-2008, 02:42 PM
The meaning and subtleties of "don't get raped" and "don't cry rape" are clearly different. Apples and oranges my dear.

thistle
04-23-2008, 03:28 PM
The meaning and subtleties of "don't get raped" and "don't cry rape" are clearly different. Apples and oranges my dear.

Well that's ridiculous. You are making it sound like his title means 'Don't go out of your way to get raped in Japan'.

'Don't get raped in Japan' and 'Don't cry rape inJapan', seem like they would indicate the same meaning to me. They both mean that Japan is not a country you would want to be getting raped in(presumable because of the way the victims are treated after reporting it).

But then I am not an english professor.

rednek72
04-23-2008, 03:29 PM
I thought it was a great thread Muku. You got my approval. And I'm sure some of the rapists out there took it as an invite to come to Japan for some easy prey.

Asshat
04-23-2008, 03:30 PM
Well that's ridiculous. You are making it sound like his title means 'Don't go out of your way to get raped in Japan'.

'Don't get raped in Japan' and 'Don't cry rape inJapan', seem like they would indicate the same meaning to me. They both mean that Japan is not a country you would want to be getting raped in(presumable because of the way the victims are treated after reporting it).

But then I am not an english professor.

Yeah, but you are a great looking chick and cool too! And you are correct in this instance of semantics.

Muku
04-23-2008, 03:37 PM
Well that's ridiculous. You are making it sound like his title means 'Don't go out of your way to get raped in Japan'.

'Don't get raped in Japan' and 'Don't cry rape inJapan', seem like they would indicate the same meaning to me. They both mean that Japan is not a country you would want to be getting raped in(presumable because of the way the victims are treated after reporting it).

But then I am not an english professor.
Thistle...he isnt an English Prof either:rolleyes:

Unfortunately the point of the thread is being dragged off topic, what else is new here, and focusing on the title and not the subject.

I truly feel for her and any other women that are faced with this type of situation and I think it beehoves the Japanese Government to get involved and train their police better in ways to handle rapes.

I thought it was a great thread Muku. You got my approval. And I'm sure some of the rapists out there took it as an invite to come to Japan for some easy prey.
I truly hope not.

Asshat
04-23-2008, 03:46 PM
Thistle...he isnt an English Prof either:rolleyes:

Unfortunately the point of the thread is being dragged off topic, what else is new here, and focusing on the title and not the subject.

I truly feel for her and any other women that are faced with this type of situation and I think it beehoves the Japanese Government to get involved and train their police better in ways to handle rapes.


I truly hope not.

As some of the links you posted infer, Japan must first change her male view of women in general. Only then will their rights as victims be taken seriously.

badkitty
04-23-2008, 03:47 PM
Well I guess I will go put on my Rape Me Please t-shirt and walk around Chibana... I will let you know what happens.....

Asshat
04-23-2008, 03:48 PM
Well I guess I will go put on my Rape Me Please t-shirt and walk around Chibana... I will let you know what happens.....

Hey could I borrow that?

badkitty
04-23-2008, 03:49 PM
Hey could I borrow that?

Sure can!!!!!

Asshat
04-23-2008, 03:52 PM
Sure can!!!!!

Cool! Let me know if it works! lol...sorry. That isn't exactly funny, but it is in a sick sort of way.

Anyway, it might work better than laying down naked in front of Jusco and hoping for the best. That hasn't panned out real well.

Muku
04-23-2008, 03:58 PM
As some of the links you posted infer, Japan must first change her male view of women in general. Only then will their rights as victims be taken seriously.
Yes I do believe that to be so as well, on a daily basis I see crap at work that probably a majority of western women would be raising shit about. Unfortunately the women here also, in my opinion, need to be more adamant in getting these types of issues pushed to the fore front.

Maybe the women that work in the sex industry should all go on strike, I say that partially tongue in cheek, but that might be the only way for some of the guys to wake up and smell the coffee.


Anyway, it might work better than laying down naked in front of Jusco and hoping for the best. That hasn't panned out real well.

I was afraid of that.....you must have been the little worm that I crushed with my van the other day:eek:

Muku
04-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Well I guess I will go put on my Rape Me Please t-shirt and walk around Chibana... I will let you know what happens.....
I realize hope??? that this was said in jest.

I am sorry but I have a hard time finding anything funny regarding the issue of rape, and I apologize if I am raining on the parade here with this comment.

Oh and even if you walked around Chibana the odds are that noone except the American's around there wouldbe able to actually understand what the T-shirt meant in the first place.:)

LooseCannon
04-25-2008, 09:10 AM
Oh and even if you walked around Chibana the odds are that noone except the American's around there wouldbe able to actually understand what the T-shirt meant in the first place.:)

That reminds me of the fifty something lady I saw with a T-shirt that said "if it swells, ride it!" Obviously she didn't know as is the case with most of them. In a way similar to Americans getting Kanji tatoos. My nephews wife got one she was led to believe said "loving mother." It actually said "Horse!"

My two Yen worth :old:

Muku
04-25-2008, 09:24 AM
My nephews wife got one she was led to believe said "loving mother." It actually said "Horse!"


LOL....next he should get the kanji for ass tattooed right next to it. :D

Thanks for the chuckle this AM:thumbup:

P_chan
04-25-2008, 10:57 AM
That reminds me of the fifty something lady I saw with a T-shirt that said "if it swells, ride it!" Obviously she didn't know as is the case with most of them. In a way similar to Americans getting Kanji tatoos. My nephews wife got one she was led to believe said "loving mother." It actually said "Horse!"

My two Yen worth :old:

Dude, that's awesome! That's the exact reason why I hate kanji tattoo. They're either wrong, or sound stupid.

Zorro
05-04-2008, 04:21 PM
Well, I for one feel Muku was rightly attacked for the thread title. But then he explained it. He is absolved of the asinine things of which he was accused, but still guilty of suckering us to get attention to his thread. Oh, well.

I truly feel for her and any other women that are faced with this type of situation and I think it beehoves the Japanese Government to get involved and train their police better in ways to handle rapes.

Yes, I have heard nothing good about how the police handle rape. Interestingly enough, I was making that very point in another thread....

on a daily basis I see crap at work that probably a majority of western women would be raising shit about. Unfortunately the women here also, in my opinion, need to be more adamant in getting these types of issues pushed to the fore front.

Why? What crap are you talking about?

I agree that the authorities need to take rape more seriously and get up to speed. But i cant figure what that has to do with stuff you see at work nor people bitching about it or not.

Is it something to do with respect for women? Because man, if we in the west had so much respect for women, I would think we would have eliminated rape by now! I honestly cant say if the frequency or severity of rape is better or worse in either place, tho I generally suspect its actually worse back home. I am, however, quite sure the police work and counseling is better back home, but that is about it. And the reasons for each are many and varied.

Zorro
05-04-2008, 05:16 PM
Saw a snip-it in passing on the Sunday paper as I walked by,
that stated the rape statistics here were 1 out of 8 women have been raped.....
Didn't read the article, but thought that was pretty grim. (don't know if that was specific to where we are or the US in general)

So if you looked at that statistic, a decent portion of the ladies around the forum could have already been victims of rape.

How could anyone even attempt to cobble together a figure of how many living women have been raped?

Better to stick to the number of rapes that were actually proven in court and know the number is something more. I am not buying 1 in 8. No way. The only way I can see getting that number is to ask women anonymously if they FEEL they were raped and let them make thier own definition of what rape means. That way they include getting groped on the the train. Only then are you going to get one in 8. Then on top of that define an experience as rape even if the pollee doesnt, like when her own husband got pushy one night and she gave in after 30 seconds of resistance.

Man, if the number was that high each and every one of us would have witnessed a rape or two every year in Japan. No way to keep that many rapes hidden.