religion sucks!

[GODH8SU]

So how many people are getting tired of all the CRAP that seems to stem from organized religion? I for one can't stand ANY religion on any level but I'm sure you've already figured that out. What's your take on it?

[DocTurtle]

fight fight fight!!!

[Tony Stacks]

I don't think it's the religions, just the fundies / extremists that give the religions a bad name. Me personally was baptized Catholic, I believe in Jesus but don't really practice any religion.

I believe people should just believe in whaterver they want.

[Trail]

I am all for people doing what they want to do as long as it doesn't affect me. Unfortunately, most people have tried to push their religion on me once they found out I was agnostic. That is when I get pi$$ed off.

[BleuEneG]

who the hell are you to say such BS??? I bet you are against people who have a statue of the virgin mary on their dash board to o huh? well if you ever do see the light you better post that ad in the paper thanking Saint Jude for helping you out but perhaps you are too good for that huh?

[GODH8SU]

I am all for people doing what they want to do as long as it doesn't affect me. Unfortunately, most people have tried to push their religion on me once they found out I was agnostic. That is when I get pi$$ed off.

I think this is the main reason I hate it so much. I've spent so much of my life having people trying to shovel this shit down my throat.

[okisteve]

GOD and Bleu - you guys missed a very similar epic battle a few months ago. The main characters were TP and Fonze if I remember right.

[GODH8SU]

who the hell are you to say such BS??? I bet you are against people who have a statue of the virgin mary on their dash board to o huh?

No, but the little fish people put on their cars are kinda stupid!

[Trail]

I think this is the main reason I hate it so much. I've spent so much of my life having people trying to shovel this shit down my throat.

My stand is:
I accept and respect their choice, they need to accept and respect mine.

I was raised catholic by my grandparents but my own parents were semi-agnostic. I was turned off mainly from the church when my husband and I went to get married. That is when the politics were finally brought to light for me.

[BleuEneG]

maybe they are into fishing how do you know it's about religion?

[okisteve]

Fish don't rust. I'd put one on my car in Okinawa if it would help.

[Sex Wax]

I do my own thing. When I kick off, and they finisish scraping whatever organs out of me that are salvageable, I'll have my ashes scattered on the beach/ocean at my 1st Annual Ash's Ashes Beach Party. Wherever I get to i'll worry about it then. I just don't like people pushing thier religion on me or banging on my door 7:30am Sunday morning. Don't them Jesus Peeps know that i just got in? But do what you want, just dont do it on me.

[Tony Stacks]

maybe they are into fishing how do you know it's about religion?


cuz he's talking about the Jesus fish.

[BleuEneG]

cuz he's talking about the Jesus fish.

no shit??:w00t:

[GODH8SU]

cuz he's talking about the Jesus fish.

DING DING DING! We have a winner. Sexwax needs to give a cookie to this man!

[Tony Stacks]

no shit??:w00t:


It has nothing to do with fishing than :scared:

[GODH8SU]

I bet you are against people who have a statue of the virgin mary on their dash board to o huh?


Do they come in bobbleheads?

[Tony Stacks]

DING DING DING! We have a winner. Sexwax needs to give a cookie to this man!


Never pass up a chance to point out the obvious :first:

[P_chan]

No, but the little fish people put on their cars are kinda stupid!

Can I put my fish on my car?

http://www.twoglasses.com/images/fsm_sm.jpg

[BleuEneG]

Do they come in bobbleheads?

Bobble head this!:barf:

[okisteve]

http://www.northernsun.com/images/thumb/2466.jpg

[Sex Wax]

cuz he's talking about the Jesus fish.

Passing on a cookie........

http://www.clubfuji.com/Ash/Cookie.jpg

[GODH8SU]

http://www.northernsun.com/images/thumb/2466.jpg

I want one!

[DougP]

Let's see... the Jesus fish. "Fishy" symbolism can be found throughout the New Testament. Jesus feeds a few thousand people(think it might be 5000) with bread and 2 fish... he befriends 2 fisherman in Galilei who follow him etc. But in all honesty that fish is nothing more than a Pagan astrological symbol for the age of Pisces. Look at the old zodiac symbol for Pisces and you might get an idea where the Jesus fish originated. An up and coming religion or a newly predominant religion is not necessarily above borrowing from other religions.

The cross(Celtic) is nothing more than a pagan adaptation of the Zodiac cross. In fact they've been used as religious symbols long before the Christ supposedly walked the earth. Take the Ankh, Sun cross(Odin's cross) or even the Tau Cross etc... Hmm come to think of it.. Jesus wasn't the only religious figure to be crucified either.

[okisteve]

I want one!
Northern Sun
2916 E Lake St
Minneapolis, MN 55406
Regular Business Hours
10 AM to 6 PM CDT Monday-Friday. 10 AM to 4 PM on Saturday CDT
Phone: (612) 729-2001
Fax: (612) 729-0149
Toll-free: (800) 258-8579
e-mail: info@northernsun.com

(I used to have their "gefilte" model on my car.

[Trail]

Emblem website:
http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/emblems.html

[BleuEneG]

I want one!

If you get one of those people might think you are in some sushi cult or something. You'll have cats following you everywhere too.

[Trail]

Let's see... the Jesus fish. "Fishy" symbolism can be found throughout the New Testament. Jesus feeds a few thousand people(think it might be 5000) with bread and 2 fish... he befriends 2 fisherman in Galilei who follow him etc. But in all honesty that fish is nothing more than a Pagan astrological symbol for the age of Pisces. Look at the old zodiac symbol for Pisces and you might get an idea where the Jesus fish originated. An up and coming religion or a newly predominant religion is not necessarily above borrowing from other religions.

The cross(Celtic) is nothing more than a pagan adaptation of the Zodiac cross. In fact they've been used as religious symbols long before the Christ supposedly walked the earth. Take the Ankh, Sun cross(Odin's cross) or even the Tau Cross etc... Hmm come to think of it.. Jesus wasn't the only religious figure to be crucified either.

I take it you have watched Zeitgiest.... :first:

[P_chan]

I got myself a FSM fish but didn't put it on my car. Figured it wasn't worth it since I'll be getting rid of my car in a few months.

[DougP]

I take it you have watched Zeitgiest.... :first:

About 15 times honestly...:first:

[Trail]

About 15 times honestly...:first:

Knowledge is power :thumbup1:

[OkinawaStud]

Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

[BleuEneG]

all i got to say is you can get all the emblems you want on your cars but they wont help you in 2012.

[P_chan]

all i got to say is you can get all the emblems you want on your cars but they wont help you in 2012.

What happens then? Do I win something? Or is that when all the religious nuts go crazy and think the world's gonna end?

[Trail]

all i got to say is you can get all the emblems you want on your cars but they wont help you in 2012.

No but maybe Wax's foil will.... :old:

[Sex Wax]

No but maybe Wax's foil will.... :old:

I have enough Tinfoil and Captain Morgans to last through any apocalypse!

:thumbup1:

[DougP]

What happens then? Do I win something? Or is that when all the religious nuts go crazy and think the world's gonna end?

Don't worry P, the earth is only around 6000 years old. Hardly enough time for us to have been around long enough to be missed. Yup I'm sure 2012 will be the end as we know it. Or some other deadline will pop up. But hey what do I know.. I thought dinosaurs were real, when they were merely put here to test our faith.

FSM:thumbup:

[Trail]

As long as there is Captain, who cares about the apocalypse?!? :D

[Trail]

But hey what do I know.. I thought dinosaurs were real, when they were merely put here to test our faith.

LMAO. I need to watch it again tonight. First time you watch it you are like "was I even supposed to see that?" but then the dirty truth factor wears off.

[P_chan]

Don't worry P, the earth is only around 6000 years old. Hardly enough time for us to have been around long enough to be missed. Yup I'm sure 2012 will be the end as we know it. Or some other deadline will pop up. But hey what do I know.. I thought dinosaurs were real, when they were merely put here to test our faith.

FSM:thumbup:

Can I get a Ramen for the Spaghedeity?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg/800px-Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg

[Trail]

lol, Romans weren't well hung! LMAO

[GODH8SU]

Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

You forgot the "G" spot!

[Sex Wax]

http://thegurrier.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/cm0611.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/414998399_4b1b06b1b8_b.jpg

[BleuEneG]

http://thegurrier.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/cm0611.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/414998399_4b1b06b1b8_b.jpg

What the heck children's bible is this from? I never taught that in my Sunday school.

[P_chan]

An awesome children's bible!

[DougP]

lol, Romans weren't well hung! LMAO

LOL you saying they were hung like a light switch?:w00t:

[Sex Wax]

What the heck children's bible is this from? I never taught that in my Sunday school.

this is where i got the pic:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bp2.blogger.com/_lMhuoqh6UTs/RpO7BqwXRDI/AAAAAAAAAKE/rTnwUInqUw4/s400/Jesus%2BHorse.jpg&imgrefurl=http://taste-of-ipecac.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html&h=400&w=267&sz=43&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=_TxQuNHAjJHx1M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=83&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djesus%2Bhorse%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26 hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

Creation Museum:
http://www.creationmuseum.org/

[GODH8SU]

http://thegurrier.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/cm0611.jpg

Is the sinner's compound a brothel?

[Sex Wax]

Is the sinner's compound a brothel?

Yes. I was getting a B.J., and the bible cannon thumped me on the head.

[dk]

http://www.northernsun.com/images/thumb/2466.jpg
Funniest thing I've seen all night. Almost spit chex mix all over my keyboard.

[Alana]

i am sure the super religious people feel the same way about you, except they want to save you so they spill their religious propaganda, and you feel there is nothing to be saved from so you could care less that everyone doesn't feel the way you do. there is no winning this fight, i think i read somewhere that more of the wars ever fought in history stemmed from religious beliefs, than any one other reason. that is why i keep to myself, i believe in god, but not so much organized religion, i dont shout from the roof tops the way i feel, the only person that bugs me is a family memeber who just wants someone to go to church with, and really i usually go, i find other religions intriguing, i dont plan on adopting them, but its nice to know i am informed.

[Jrocka83]

http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/media/E-FishNChip.gif

I like this one...

[Trail]

LOL you saying they were hung like a light switch?:w00t:

Well, I wouldn't say a light switch since a light switch still turns something on... :w00t:

I'd call it more or less a skin tag with testicles. :barf:

[Ammoyankee]

all i got to say is you can get all the emblems you want on your cars but they wont help you in 2012.


Cool, at least I will get to enjoy a few years as a retiree before the big one hits!

[P_chan]

Cool, at least I will get to enjoy a few years as a retiree before the big one hits!

I bet it will be as bad as Y2K!

[Trail]

I bet it will be as bad as Y2K!

Y2K12? :scared: Oh noez...

http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/cat.htm *have your volume on...

[dk]

I bet it will be as bad as Y2K!
Easily. No doubt about it.

[DOCROB]

2012?? didn't nostradomus prodict 3900??

[Sif: wife of Thor]

I'm always disturbed how these "christians" do not act christianly towards people who won't drink the kool-aide. Very hypocritical...don't you think?!

[P_chan]

2012?? didn't nostradomus prodict 3900??

Nostradomus didn't predict anything! So far none of his predictions have come true! People have simply applied his vauge writings to events that have already happened. Sorry, but that's a bunch of BS if you ask me.

[GIR 08]

2012?? didn't nostradomus prodict 3900??

I think the Myans predicted 2012. But what the fvck do they know, they are extinct. What a bunch of dumbasses...:dead:

[P_chan]

I think the Myans predicted 2012. But what the fvck do they know, they are extinct. What a bunch of dumbasses...:dead:

I'm not sure if I'm right, but I thought the Myan calander just ended in 2012? I read somewhere that it just means the end of an era, not the end of the world. But don't quote me on this, I heard that a long time ago.

[DOCROB]

Nostradomus didn't predict anything! So far none of his predictions have come true! People have simply applied his vauge writings to events that have already happened. Sorry, but that's a bunch of BS if you ask me.

True but he was really close on a few things...

[GIR 08]

http://survive2012.com
Its all a bunch of hooha to me. But I think you may be right p chan. I'm dumb, I'll go back to my hole and beat myself...lol JK, I only do that because it excites me.

[P_chan]

True but he was really close on a few things...

Yeah but it's moot if he was really close AFTER it happened. The writings are also very vauge, so they could be applied to any historic event that has happened, or will happen.

I predicted I would have this conversation, I'm a prophet!

[Sif: wife of Thor]

Found this...

THE HOW AND WHY OF THE MAYAN END DATE IN 2012 A.D.
by John Major Jenkins

� May 23rd, 1994

Originally published in the Dec-Jan '95 issue of Mountain Astrologer.
Why did the ancient Mayan or pre-Maya choose December 21st, 2012 A.D., as the end of their Long Count calendar? This article will cover some recent research. Scholars have known for decades that the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan "Long Count" system of timekeeping was set to end precisely on a winter solstice, and that this system was put in place some 2300 years ago. This amazing fact - that ancient Mesoameri- can skywatchers were able to pinpoint a winter solstice far off into the future - has not been dealt with by Mayanists. And why did they choose the year 2012? One immediately gets the impression that there is a very strange mystery to be confronted here. I will be building upon a clue to this mystery reported by epigrapher Linda Schele in Maya Cosmos (1994). This article is the natural culmination of the research relating to the Mayan Long Count and the precession of the equinoxes that I explored in my recent book Tzolkin: Visionary Perspectives and Calendar Studies (Borderlands Science and Research Foundation, 1994).

The Mayan Long Count
Just some basics to get us started. The Maya were adept skywatchers. Their Classic Period is thought to have lasted from 200 A.D. to 900 A.D., but recent archeological findings are pushing back the dawn of Mayan civilization in Mesoamerica. Large ruin sites indicating high culture with distinctly Mayan antecedents are being found in the jungles of Guatemala dating back to before the common era. And even before this, the Olmec civilization flourished and developed the sacred count of 260 days known as the tzolkin. The early Maya adopted two different time keeping systems, the "Short Count" and the Long Count. The Short Count derives from combining the tzolkin cycle with the solar year and the Venus cycle of 584 days. In this way, "short" periods of 13, 52 and 104 years are generated. Unfortunately, we won't have occasion to dwell on the properties of the so-called Short Count system here. The Long Count system is somewhat more abstract, yet is also related to certain astronomical cycles. It is based upon nested cycles of days multiplied at each level by that key Mayan number, twenty:


Number of Days / Term
1 / Kin (day)

20 / Uinal

360 / Tun

[P_chan]

As far as the world ending, I don't think that will happen in our lifetime. The Earth has been around forever, and will probably be around forever. Or at least until the sun turns into a red giant and makes the Earth uninhabitable. We've still got a few billion years until that happens.

What would be more plausible would be humans destorying themselves.

[okisteve]

As far as the world ending, I don't think that will happen in our lifetime. The Earth has been around forever, and will probably be around forever.

That's a totally new theory - it doesn't seem to fit with either Creationism or evolution, does it?

[TheLastDon]

It depends on what his definition of forever is.

I tell my wife that I will love her forever but I am not going to live past 100 years.

[BleuEneG]

Planet X is out there and there are reptilian shapeshifters amoung us.

[kombu_kid]

So how many people are getting tired of all the CRAP that seems to stem from organized religion?

Like?

the little fish people put on their cars are kinda stupid!

Why worry about it?.......besides, nobody is making you join.

[GODH8SU]

Like?



Why worry about it?.......besides, nobody is making you join.

Do you actually live on this planet? Do you walk around with your eyes and ears shut off from the rest of the world?

OREGON CITY, Ore. — The parents of an Oregon City toddler have been indicted on charges of manslaughter and criminal mistreatment, after their daughter died of what officials are calling medical neglect.

Carl and Raylene Worthington were indicted on Friday. They are members of the Followers of Christ Church, whose members have a history of treating gravely ill children solely via prayer, instead of with medical attention.

After several children whose parents were members of the church died in the 1990s, lawmakers passed new rules striking down legal shields for faith-healing parents.

Since then, there have been no troublesome reports of children's deaths associated with the church, until the case of Ava Worthington, who died March 2 of bronchial pneumonia and a blood infection.

The state medical examiner's office has said that she could have been treated with antibiotics.

Since the new laws took effect in 1999, said child abuse Detective Jeff Green of the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office, "We haven't seen any cases of significant medical neglect ... until now."

Before the law changed, church members who got in traffic accidents would take injured children home, rather than to the hospital, leaving police frustrated but powerless to intervene, Green said.

RelatedStories
Oregon Couple Charged in Daughter's Faith-Healing Death In the two years after the law passed, detectives responded to two cases of sick or injured Followers of Christ children, Green said.

One child had Crohn's disease and the other had a broken arm, which church members had tried to set themselves. In both cases, parents complied without protest when police insisted that they take their children to licensed physicians.

Ava Worthington's parents also lost a baby boy in August 2001, but the death investigation was closed after family members told police the child was stillborn.

Several other Followers of Christ children have also been stillborn or died during home births in recent years, but none of the investigated deaths resulted in criminal charges.

The couple faces sentences of more than six years on the manslaughter charges and up to a year on the mistreatment charges, said Greg Horner, chief deputy district attorney for the county. After surrendering at the jail Friday, they were released on $250,000 bail, he said.

They were to appear at a hearing Monday afternoon.

Horner said he didn't know whether the couple had lawyers. A number listed for the couple was disconnected. "We've been told, 'No comment,' " said a man who answered the phone at the church Monday. He would not identify himself.

The Oregon City church, which is not associated with a mainstream denomination, traces its origins to the faith-healing Pentecostal movement of the late 1800s and early 1900s.

[GODH8SU]

Like?



Why worry about it?.......besides, nobody is making you join.

Not good enough for you? Well how about this load of shit.


Police are conducting interviews Thursday in an effort to determine whether charges will be filed against a couple who prayed rather than seeking medical help for their 11-year-old daughter, who died Sunday from a treatable diabetic condition.

"We certainly believe that even though they firmly believed in their faith that they have a responsibility to provide medical attention for their daughter," Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin told FOX News.

An autopsy concluded that Madeline Neumann of Weston, Wis., died Sunday from diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment that left her with too little insulin in her body. Investigators said she probably had been ill for about 30 days, suffering from symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.

"I believe that they did know she was ill, especially in the last week or so," Vergin said. "We know that the mother had communicated with her sister-in-law and others, and so certainly they had known she was ill and getting worse each day as this disease progressed."

Leilani Neumann, Madeline's mother, told the Associated Press that she never expected her daughter to die.

"We just noticed a tiredness within the past two weeks," Neumann said. "And then just the day before and that day [she died], it suddenly just went to a more serious situation. We stayed fast in prayer then. We believed that she would recover. We saw signs that to us, it looked like she was recovering."

RelatedStories
Wisconsin Parents Didn't Expect Daughter to Die During Prayer Aunt Pleaded in 911 Call for Help in Saving Sick Niece From Religious Mother Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help Wisconsin Social Services has interviewed the family's three other children — ages 13, 14 and 17 — and had them examined by a medical doctor, Vergin said. They will most likely be returned to the home.

It will be up to the district attorney to decide whether or not to file charges against Madeline's parents, Vergin said.

"The parents certainly didn't want their daughter to die, they didn't want her to be ill," Vergin said. "They just chose a course of action that allowed her to regress into coma and then death."

[P_chan]

That's a totally new theory - it doesn't seem to fit with either Creationism or evolution, does it?


I should have said a long time, that would have fit better.

[GODH8SU]

Let's all just fvcking pray for everything to get better. GOD will save those that are worthy.

[P_chan]

Planet X is out there and there are reptilian shapeshifters amoung us.

WTF:confused:

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/wtf-18374.jpg

[Sex Wax]

Planet X is out there and there are reptilian shapeshifters amoung us.

They aren't the only ones. Them Pesky Aliens have some strange religeous practices...they have "wear your uunderwear outside your clothes" day every friday. I think they worship an episode of "I Love Lucy" that was braodcast to space.

[DougP]

Planet X?? :w00t: Oh hell yeah! Maybe there's a Cybertron too.

[okisurf]

Cybertron, I saw that on a documentary once about energy seeking shape shifting aliens. Very well made, though i didnt see anything that mentioned the year 2012 as their arrival date. Ill have to do more research......roll out!

[P_chan]

Planet X?? :w00t: Oh hell yeah! Maybe there's a Cybertron too.

I bet it's right next to Eternia:w00t:

[DougP]

I bet it's right next to Eternia:w00t:

or Narnia :D:first:

[Sex Wax]

Keep making fun, and you will get run over and stomped on my the Jesus Horse !

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2561/jesusdinoxsme3.jpg

[DougP]

Keep making fun, and you will get run over and stomped on my the Jesus Horse !

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2561/jesusdinoxsme3.jpg

Every time I see that I think Awesome... then I think of this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DougGTR32/awesome_star_wars_poster.png
or this
http://pix.jj.am/gallery/d/46635-3/Jayme_Stiletto_Shine_GodsGirls.jpg

And this one seems to fit into this thread rather nicely.:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DougGTR32/blasphemy.jpg

[BleuEneG]

Keep making fun, and you will get run over and stomped on my the Jesus Horse !

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2561/jesusdinoxsme3.jpg

Hey...I thought we were making fun of organized religion. Why bring Jesus into this? He has a message and it has nothing to do with fish shaped stickers, withholding medical care from children, or any sort of man made dogma.

Persoanlly I am not down with imposing my faith, but I will expose it when asked. I am not offened when folks make fun of the real Jesus, I just hope they are aware that there is a difference between what He said about himself and what lies have been made about Him.

I don't blame anybody for being mad at "religion". It does suck. But everybody owes it to themselves to see why such a historical figure like Jesus...or as I say Yeshua...has had such an impact on the world...both good and bad. It's too important to let religion ruin the chance for someone to find what just might be real and true.

[GODH8SU]

I still don't know why the hell Jesus is so famous. A middle aged Jewish MAN that was banging the hell out of ole Mary Magdalene and got her pregnant. Who cares?

[silviasichigo]

I want to know why all the supernatural feats that happend sooooo long ago have not occured again or had an occurance of equvilant stature....... all Lies!!!!!

[kombu_kid]

Do you actually live on this planet? Do you walk around with your eyes and ears shut off from the rest of the world?

Yes, I actually live on this planet. No, I don't walk around with my eyes and ears shut off from the rest of the world.

And big deal. Who couldn't find "way-out" examples of every group of humans......whether it be environmentalists, "heaven's gate" weirdos waiting for the "mother ship" to arrive, nazis,.......just look on the internet and you'll find thousands of groups of people who are into all kinds of flipped-out stuff. Do you condemn all military personnel because one of your fellow troops raped a 14-year old? C'mon, do you actually live on this planet?

But you feel the need to go after those who are trying to follow Jesus' message of love towards each other, and find the group that is kind of "out there" to condemn the whole of religion.

I still don't know why the hell Jesus is so famous. A middle aged Jewish MAN that was banging the hell out of ole Mary Magdalene and got her pregnant. Who cares?

Where did you get your information?.......the National Enquirer? I thought he was known for his message of love and compassion and his miracles.

Quote by Silviaichigo:
I want to know why all the supernatural feats that happend sooooo long ago have not occured again or had an occurance of equvilant stature....... all Lies!!!!!

You'd think that would lend credibility to the feats that were performed. Don't worry, I don't expect anyone's viewpoint to be changed.

[GODH8SU]

Where did you get your information?.......the National Enquirer? I thought he was known for his message of love and compassion and his miracles.

Where the fvck are these miracles you speak of? Prove them to me. He was just another man that got a bunch of weak minded lackys to follow him wherever he went. Sounds like a pre christian david koresh to me.

[GODH8SU]

I'm sure if the Jews knew then what crucifying him was going to do, they would have just cut off his fvcking head and left him to rot in the desert.

[GODH8SU]

The downfall of every major civilization has come at the hands of some form of religion. sounds fun to me.

[GODH8SU]

Where did you get your information?.......the National Enquirer?
I get my info from reading fiction. The same as you do. Only you call your fiction the"holy bible". That's all it is is fiction. The opinions of men passed down thru the centuries. I just read something else.

[Black Orchid]

im not too keen on religion either altough i do beleive in a higher power... the whole aspect of christianity and its fear tactics do not appeal to me anymore

[proudtobnotpc]

im not too keen on religion either altough i do beleive in a higher power... the whole aspect of christianity and its fear tactics do not appeal to me anymore
I can concur with BO on this one:thumbup1:

[kombu_kid]

I'm sure if the Jews knew then what crucifying him was going to do, they would have just cut off his fvcking head and left him to rot in the desert.

As if the form of execution was that important.......

The downfall of every major civilization has come at the hands of some form of religion. sounds fun to me.

Maybe you could name some.......

I get my info from reading fiction. The same as you do. Only you call your fiction the"holy bible". That's all it is is fiction. The opinions of men passed down thru the centuries. I just read something else.

So, my sources are garbage and your's are too......therefore, you're correct. That's one slam-dunk argument. BTW, I'm not too high on organized religion at all, but as I've said before, what can't man screw up.

[P_chan]

I'm not religious at all and I don't believe that Jesus, or God for that matter, ever existed. Well, Jesus could have been a real person, but I don't think he was the son of god, maybe just a smooth talker:D. Anyways, I also know that religion has done, and caused, a whole lot of bad in the past, present, and most defiantly in the future. However, it's hard to ignore the fact that it has done some good. I'm all for the basic teachings of loving yourself and others and treating each other as equals. I also agree that religion can do a lot of good for certain people.

So while I don't believe in it, I respect people's right to believe in something supernatural like religion. Sorry, just felt like adding my two yen:D

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Sorry, just felt like adding my two yen:D
Better than two cents with this yen rate. :ohmy:

[P_chan]

Better than two cents with this yen rate. :ohmy:

ROFLMAO:first:

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[Sex Wax]

So which one is right? And why should I belive? And does it really matter which one as long as you do what is right if you have one lick of common sense and are not brainwashed by doctrine?

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[GODH8SU]

I'm all for the basic teachings of loving yourself

Oh, but I do. Every chance I get!

[BleuEneG]

So which one is right? And why should I belive? And does it really matter which one as long as you do what is right if you have one lick of common sense and are not brainwashed by doctrine?

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Those are great questions Sex Wax! In my view I think every human being needs to ask these questions and I respect all who do. It's the folks that just dimiss the idea of a higher power altogether that trip me out. Personally that is one gamble I couldn't make...to mock and doubt the possibility of a creator god instead of seeking for the truth about one. But then again as I have heard it said before...people mock what they don't understand.

[P_chan]

Those are great questions Sex Wax! In my view I think every human being needs to ask these questions and I respect all who do. It's the folks that just dimiss the idea of a higher power altogether that trip me out. Personally that is one gamble I couldn't make...to mock and doubt the possibility of a creator god instead of seeking for the truth about one. But then again as I have heard it said before...people mock what they don't understand.

But not everyone who mocks religion is doing it becuase they don't understand. I've made pokes at religion before, but that's not because I don't understand it. I was raised a catholic and I've had relgion instilled upon me heavily for the first 15 years of my life. Once I was little, it was all good, never doubted it. But after a while I started to ask questions, questions that have no answers. I just have a hard time believing that there is some imaginary all powerful being out there watching over us.

Another thing that really turns me off about religion is some of the double standards you see. Such as accepting and loving your neighbor, as long as he is of the same belief system as you. If he's not, then damn him to hell and his whole pagen family! I know not all religious people are like that, but a vast majority of the one's I've met thoughout my life have been.

[GODH8SU]

These are just some some random findings from various articles of "fiction" that I have come across. Not saying they are right or wrong. Just thoughts. Like the bible! Purely opinionated literature.

Human beings have never lacked for things to fight over, but for the last two millennia, they have fought the most over ideas involving the divine. Politics, technology, military capacity, and diseases have all played decisive roles in shaping history, yet it is impossible to understand the rise and fall of empires, the clash of civilizations, and the evolving balance of power without appreciating the unique fervor that religion inspires, and the speed with which new religions can spread.

Every new outburst of religious passion, while producing ecstasy and revelation for some, has disrupted established loyalties, fueled intolerance, and led to violence between the chosen and the damned.

[GODH8SU]

I wish I could have this guy as a teacher. Once again, the brainwashing never ceases to amaze me.

A student and his family have filed a federal lawsuit demanding that a popular European history teacher at California's Capistrano Valley High School be fired for what they say were anti-Christian remarks he made in the classroom.

Chad Farnan, a 16-year-old sophomore, says the teacher, James Corbett, told his students that “Jesus glasses” obscure the truth and suggested that Christians are more likely than other people to commit rape and murder.

Farnan recorded his teacher telling students in class: “What country has the highest murder rate? The South! What part of the country has the highest rape rate? The South! What part of the country has the highest rate of church attendance? The South!” Farnan said he took the tape recorder to class to supplement his class notes.

“It was very hard for me because it’s like basically telling me all this stuff that I’ve believed my whole entire life — it’s just basically trying to throw it out the window,” Farnan told FOX News.

Farnan’s family has filed a federal lawsuit against the Capistrano Unified School District, claiming Corbett's remarks violated the First Amendment, which prohibits laws "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." They are demanding that Corbett be fired.

Corbett’s attorney, Dan Spradlin, says his client has been teaching at Capistrano Valley High for 15 years and is in no way anti-Christian. According to Spradlin, Corbett was not trying to offend anyone but to inspire his students to think.

“The purpose is not to indoctrinate, but simply to provide a basic starting point to provoke discussion,” Spradlin said.

Farnan said he was insulted by Corbett's comments. When Farnan played the tapes for his mother, Teresa, she contacted Advocates for Faith and Freedom, a non-profit law firm that specializes in such cases, to seek redress.

The Farnans' complaint was dismissed by the school district, but they took their plight to federal court, where U.S. District Judge James Selna said he believed the case has merit and ordered it to go forward, probably before the end of the year.

The Farnans say that if the school agrees to put Corbett through sensitivity training and requires him to apologize to the students he offended, then the family would consider dropping their lawsuit. The school district has yet to comment on the offer

[silviasichigo]

jESUS glasses hehe yeah I have met a lot of thoes people, I like answering the door Naked when they come banging on the door, "we :O ......................are going to the next door"

[GODH8SU]

And I suppose this is ok too. You have got ot be f*cking kidding me. Lose religion and lose most of the problems we face in this world.

A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims — including killing and rape.

A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

"Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain."

The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam's position, saying that all Muslims are innocent.

"You are innocent if you are a Muslim," Choudary tells the BBC. "Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God."

Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

"As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim."

[silviasichigo]

Man they sound like some pretty cool guys to drink a beer and rape a few non-innocent ladies ( I like them that way)

[BleuEneG]

But here's the thing guys...all these things that the past posts have been about lean on your understanding about God BASED ON OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. And as we know humans are not perfect...we screw everything up.

That is why I don't try to "convert" anybody to the faith I have because I CAN NOT BE and will not be the example of the True God. Seeking out something as important as the creator of the universe has to be a personal attempt based on a personal desire to find out for oneself and to be determined to get to the bottom of it in spite of all the bullshit that other people have said and done in the name of God.

For instance...I don't know anybody in this forum personally but lets just say I do. If I were to come in here and say that GODH8SU is a total moron and he kills babies for kicks and on top of that he is one ugly mofo would you just believe it? Even if I gave you prove by showing you pictures of him taking money from the donation jar at WalMart it would wrong for anyone here to not dig deeper to try to find out the whole story and not just listen to the view that I want you to have. Now that's if my intention is to present a negative view of him.

What if I tried to convince you that GODH8su is the coolest guy and he is so damn good looking that women line up and pay him $100 an hour just to be with him. And because he is so rich he is going to take all of out to Cowdy's? If you all just believed me you would be out of your minds. The best way to get to know him is to access him directly without depending on anybody else to get to know him.

I honestly think it''s the same thing with God becasue that's how it happened to me. I grew up catholic and I too had questions and I didn't like any of the anwers people gave me. It has to be something supernatural and you either get it or you don't. But you cant win or lose if you don't run the race.

[silviasichigo]

Yeah that is fine and all but then it comes down to GOD NOT BEING THERE to give you that return reaction, GODH8SU is here to give you that physical presence to learn from..........God is not.... so in turn you are just relying all on your learnd behaviours as a NON-perfect human and non-perfect interactions with humans........

[OkinawaStud]

Yeah that is fine and all but then it comes down to GOD NOT BEING THERE to give you that return reaction, GODH8SU is here to give you that physical presence to learn from..........God is not.... so in turn you are just relying all on your learnd behaviours as a NON-perfect human and non-perfect interactions with humans........


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[BleuEneG]

Yeah that is fine and all but then it comes down to GOD NOT BEING THERE to give you that return reaction, GODH8SU is here to give you that physical presence to learn from..........God is not.... so in turn you are just relying all on your learnd behaviours as a NON-perfect human and non-perfect interactions with humans........

trust me silvia when I say I am not relying on my learned behaviors. but I will give you this that within all religions there are lots of people that do. And that sucks. That's why anything about my faith that I share with my child is more dependant on her asking the questions and wanting to genuinly know rather than me dictating to her what she better believe. but this isin't about me.

but yes if you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God is NOT THERE than that's all anyone can expect from you. I don't believe in relativism becasue Truth is not subjective but I also know that not everybody has faith. If on your deathbed you are satisfied with your belief system or lack of one concerning a creator than that's on you and who am I to try to change that? I just share with people that they might consider it a little more before they determine in their hearts that there is no God.

[GODH8SU]

What if I tried to convince you that GODH8su is the coolest guy and he is so damn good looking that women line up and pay him $100 an hour just to be with him. And because he is so rich he is going to take all of out to Cowdy's? If you all just believed me you would be out of your minds. The best way to get to know him is to access him directly without depending on anybody else to get to know him.


I'm not taking anyone out to eat. But there is a line to be with me!

[BleuEneG]

I'm not taking anyone out to eat. But there is a line to be with me!

How much do you charge?

[GODH8SU]

How much do you charge?

I take donations. But with a $50 minimum.

[BleuEneG]

I take donations. But with a $50 minimum.

What??? For that price I better get a dinner of some lamb chops from Cowdy's! oh man they are to die for.

[kombu_kid]

..........But there is a line to be with me!

Careful God......you're killin' your credibility!:D

[P_chan]

What??? For that price I better get a dinner of some lamb chops from Cowdy's! oh man they are to die for.

Screw cowdy's go for a more expensive place. Like the buffet at harbor view hotel! It cost's 100 bucks a freaking plate!

[TheLastDon]

Religion is like a drug for some people. The rich do it, the poor do it, the smart people do it and the stupid people do it.
ANd that's all I have to say about that.

[Tony Stacks]

Screw cowdy's go for a more expensive place. Like the buffet at harbor view hotel! It cost's 100 bucks a freaking plate!

What. Cowdy is the shit. Good prices too.

[P_chan]

What. Cowdy is the shit. Good prices too.

Cowdy's isn't bad. I'm just saying she should take him for all he's got!

[BleuEneG]

All I know is I like a good lamb chop and the only and best I have had on Okinawa has been Cowdy's. If there is another place let me know.

And this isint off topic because if we are talking religion that includes being Jewish and eating lamb.

[OkinawaStud]

GODH8SU is a total moron and he kills babies for kicks and on top of that he is one ugly mofo

And you said you've never met him!

[GODH8SU]

And you said you've never met him!

Me thinks OS next to be Damned!

[SPMF#1]

I'll second that, he is a moron and is ugly as homemade sin.

[GODH8SU]

I'll second that, he is a moron and is ugly as homemade sin.

The village idiot from Georgia calls me a moron. Where is the irony in that?

[SPMF#1]

It's full of irony, even a moron could see it. Notice he doesn't deny being ugly though... Maybe he should have the mods change his user to doghmpsu...

[Tony Stacks]

All I know is I like a good lamb chop and the only and best I have had on Okinawa has been Cowdy's. If there is another place let me know.

And this isint off topic because if we are talking religion that includes being Jewish and eating lamb.


I was told the best lamb chops are at Trivoli in the next to the Plaza House shopping center. Never been there yet myself though.

[Trail]

I was told the best lamb chops are at Trivoli in the next to the Plaza House shopping center. Never been there yet myself though.

Jack's Place also had lamb chops too. I haven't tried them and I am unsure if they are there for a limited time.