Agnostics: Shit or Get off the Pot

[retributionnk]

My personal opinion: Too scared of going to hell to be an Atheist, too learned to be a person of faith.

They are merely atheists with no courage.... They're worse than most religious people in that regard.

Other opinions?

[Tony Stacks]

I completly disagree with you. In fact it makes more sense to be Agnostic than religous or Athiest because the existence of God cannot be proven or disproven but there is more evidence of God than no god.

Now who God is is the real question.

[dk]

Evidence? What evidence?

[Muku]

Evidence? What evidence?
Have to agree with this here Tony. What evidence can you give to show that God actually exists....oh other than faith.

[Bones]

Look at Ret's avatar, anybody who can pound down a burger that size has to be a GOD. lol

NBTP

[Tony Stacks]

Have to agree with this here Tony. What evidence can you give to show that God actually exists....oh other than faith.


There is no evidence. But there is no evidence that God does'nt exist either.

[Muku]

There is no evidence. But there is no evidence that God does'nt exist either.

Different response this time Tony...you sounded pretty sure of yourself when you wrote this though....

but there is more evidence of God than no god.



Where is the evidence?

[Tony Stacks]

What evidence. I guess evidence was the wrong word but the universe is just too complex to have just came to be intself. There is something more powerful than us. Something or simebody created everything.

[Muku]

What evidence. I guess evidence was the wrong word but the universe is just too complex to have just came to be intself. There is something more powerful than us. Something or simebody created everything.
Fair enough:thumbup1:

Oh and until there is actually evidence to prove otherwise as well, I too believe that there is a Higher Being or God as well.

I find it difficult to believe that the universe just came into being, one it's not here and the next day it is.

I would love to know, if the big bang theory is correct, what is outside the universe that is continually expanding.

[proudtobnotpc]

Fair enough:thumbup1:

Oh and until there is actually evidence to prove otherwise as well, I too believe that there is a Higher Being or God as well.

I find it difficult to believe that the universe just came into being, one it's not here and the next day it is.

I would love to know, if the big bang theory is correct, what is outside the universe that is continually expanding.

The God you all speak off is nature she provides all, no mystical powers no higher being it is what it is. God is Imaginary (http://godisimaginary.com/index.htm) That being said, everyday you are presented an opportunity to help out someone you will see it and its your choice not because Jesus would do it but because you should.

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

The Big Bang wasn't the beginning, according to the most recent theory of the origins of the universe.

For decades, physicists have accepted the notion that the universe started with the Big Bang, an explosive event at the literal beginning of time. Now, computational physicist Neil Turok is challenging that model -- and some scientists are taking him seriously.


According to Turok, who teaches at Cambridge University (http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/ngt1000/), the Big Bang represents just one stage in an infinitely repeated cycle of universal expansion and contraction. Turok theorizes that neither time nor the universe has a beginning or end.


It's a strange idea, though Turok would say it's no stranger than the standard explanation of the Big Bang: a singular point that defies our laws of physics, where all equations go to infinity and "all the properties we normally use to describe the universe and its contents just fail." That inconsistency led Turok to see if the Big Bang could be explained within the framework of string theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory), a controversial and so-far untested explanation of the universe as existing in at least 10 dimensions and being formed from one-dimensional building blocks called strings. Within a school of string theory known as m-theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory), Turok said, "the seventh extra dimension of space is the gap between two parallel objects called branes. It's like the gap between two parallel mirrors. We thought, What happens if these two mirrors collide? Maybe that was the Big Bang."


Turok's proposition has drawn condemnation from string theory's many critics and even opposition from the Catholic Church. But it's provoked acclaim and wonder, too: He and Princeton University physicist Paul Steinhardt (http://www.physics.princeton.edu/%7Esteinh/) published Endless Universe: Beyond the Big Bang (http://www.endlessuniverse.net/) last year, and Turok -- also the founder of the South Africa-based African Institute for Mathematical Sciences (http://www.aims.ac.za/english/) -- won 2008's first annual TED Prize (http://www.ted.com/index.php/pages/view/id/160), awarded to the world's most innovative thinkers.


Turok spoke with Wired.com about the Big Bang, the intellectual benefits of cosmology and his bet with Stephen Hawking.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/02/qa_turok

[westonmt]

just a thought but if someone had to create the universe and all that's in it......then who created the creator? and so on......

[Bones]

It's like if the egg came first, who laid the egg?

Lights on, lights off. That's all there is.

Multiple dimensions, science fiction.

Enjoy life while you can.

NBTP

[TheLastDon]

It's like if the egg came first, who laid the egg?

Lights on, lights off. That's all there is.

Multiple dimensions, science fiction.

Enjoy life while you can.

NBTP

I hate to say it but I agree with Bones on this one.:thumbup1:

[GODH8SU]

All this controversy and all you had to do is look right here in Okinawa. I am all the evidence you need.