Period of Reflection ends, curfew implemented

[oldskoolgaijin]

Sorry military peeps..

MISSION: EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, THE OFF-BASE LIMITS ESTABLISHED FOR SOFA STATUS CIVILIANS AND DEPENDENTS IS RESCINDED. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, A 2200-0500 GENERAL CURFEW WILL BE INSTITUTED FOR ALL MILITARY PERSONNEL PERMANENTLY OR TEMPORARILY ASSIGNED TO OKINAWA, AND MARINE CORPS AND ASSIGNED NAVY PERSONNEL AT CAMP FUJI, AND IWAKUNI, JAPAN, OR WHO ARE TRANSITING THROUGH THESE LOCATIONS IN A TAD/TDY/LEAVE STATUS. MILITARY PERSONNEL MAY CONDUCT OFF-BASE LIBERTY DURING NON-CURFEW HOURS IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE SERVICE REGULATIONS AND SERVICE ORDERS. ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION BY MILITARY PERSONNEL IN OFF BASE BARS, CLUBS, RESTAURANTS, ETC AT ANY TIME IS PROHIBITED. MILITARY PERSONNEL ARE AUTHORIZED TO CONSUME ALCOHOL ON BASE OR IN OFF BASE RESIDENCES OF SOFA STATUS PERSONNEL DURING CURFEW AND NON-CURFEW HOURS IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE SERVICE REGULATIONS AND ORDERS

[dk]

Congrats if it's true.

What is with the military and all-caps?

[oldskoolgaijin]

Basic English skills are difficult???

[EpicTrainwreck]

The syntax looks familiar. I think that's how the first order appeared in my inbox when it came out.

[grid123456]

Sorry military peeps..

MISSION: EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, THE OFF-BASE LIMITS ESTABLISHED FOR SOFA STATUS CIVILIANS AND DEPENDENTS IS RESCINDED. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, A 2200-0500 GENERAL CURFEW WILL BE INSTITUTED FOR ALL MILITARY PERSONNEL PERMANENTLY OR TEMPORARILY ASSIGNED TO OKINAWA, AND MARINE CORPS AND ASSIGNED NAVY PERSONNEL AT CAMP FUJI, AND IWAKUNI, JAPAN, OR WHO ARE TRANSITING THROUGH THESE LOCATIONS IN A TAD/TDY/LEAVE STATUS. MILITARY PERSONNEL MAY CONDUCT OFF-BASE LIBERTY DURING NON-CURFEW HOURS IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE SERVICE REGULATIONS AND SERVICE ORDERS. ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION BY MILITARY PERSONNEL IN OFF BASE BARS, CLUBS, RESTAURANTS, ETC AT ANY TIME IS PROHIBITED. MILITARY PERSONNEL ARE AUTHORIZED TO CONSUME ALCOHOL ON BASE OR IN OFF BASE RESIDENCES OF SOFA STATUS PERSONNEL DURING CURFEW AND NON-CURFEW HOURS IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE SERVICE REGULATIONS AND ORDERS


post a link or if it is official message trafic, give me a date time group..... if I start anticipating too much and then get blue balls after finding out it isn't true.....I am holding you responsible!!!:rolleyes:

[oldskoolgaijin]

It will be out tomorrow. This is a pre-release..

[oldskoolgaijin]

its on the readboards, message traffic. it came out at 10:40 or 2240 for you military type

oh yeah, you need this to..

CURFEW CONCEPT OF OPERATIONS: DURING THE HOURS OF 2200-0500, ALL MILITARY PERSONNEL MOVEMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING (UNLESS OTHERWISE RESTRICTED BY SERVICE ORDERS):
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD) INSTALLATION OR OFF-BASE RESIDENCE PLACE OF DUTY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT PLACE OF WORSHIP PLACE OF EDUCATION PLACE OF MEDICAL, DENTAL, AND VETERINARY TREATMENT AIRPORTS (FOR THE PURPOSE OF PICKING UP OR DROPPING OFF PASSENGERS OR FOR AUTHORIZED TRAVEL) TRANSIT BETWEEN ONES AUTHORIZED RESIDENCE AND ANY DOD INSTALLATION VIA PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLES, MILITARY SUPPORTED TRANSPORTATION, AND COMMERCIAL TAXI TRANSIT BETWEEN OFF BASE RESIDENCE OR AUTHORIZED OFF BASE LOCATIONS AND DOD FACILITIES DURING THE CURFEW SHALL BE BY THE MOST DIRECT MEANS AVAILABLE. NO OFF BASE STOPS ARE AUTHORIZED EXCEPT FOR BONA FIDE EMERGENCIES

[Fonze]

Here is the story from stripes. I guess thats still bad news for the clubs and bars.

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=53030


CAMP FOSTER, Okinawa – Marine Lt. Gen. Richard Zilmer late Monday lifted restrictions imposed by the “period of reflection” he ordered Feb. 20.

Beginning immediately, all restrictions on civilians connected to the U.S. military on Okinawa and Marine bases in mainland Japan are lifted. However, a 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. off-base curfew was imposed on all active-duty servicemembers, according to a Marine Corps Bases Japan press release issued at 10:40 p.m Monday.

It also restricts active-duty personnel from consuming alcohol at off-base establishments.

Zilmer, the Okinawa Area Coordinator and highest ranking U.S. officer on Okinawa, called for a “period of reflection” following high-profile incidents involving servicemembers in February, including two alleged rapes and two alcohol-related incidents in the Okinawa community.

Two off-base incidents last weekend involving Americans connected to the U.S. military did not deter Zilmer from lifting the blanket restriction that had kept all Americans on Okinawa and Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni and Camp Fuji on mainland Japan, either on the military bases or their off-base homes.

“The curfew, coupled with ongoing cooperative initiatives with our Japanese hosts at the national and local level, will offer the best atmosphere for our servicemembers, family members and civilian employees while reducing the possibility and risk of misconduct,” Zilmer said in the release.

The release noted that “during the past two weeks, leaders from each of the military services have reviewed the procedures and orders that govern the discipline and conduct of all U.S. servicemembers serving in Okinawa.

“The review is ongoing and U.S. military and Japanese officials will continue to discuss ways to work together toward the common goal of reducing off-base misconduct by SOFA-status members,” it stated.

During the period of reflection, status of forces agreement personnel were not allowed to participate in most off-base activities without an exemption letter signed by an officer ranked O-6 and above. It drew sharp criticism from many SOFA personnel who complained it even restricted their ability to walk their dogs in their off-base neighborhoods or allow their children to romp in community playgrounds.

The release stresses that civilians and military family members are no longer restricted in any way.

Regarding the banning of drinking alcohol off-base, the release states that “servicemembers are restricted from consuming alcohol off-base, except within the confines of the off-base residences of SOFA status personnel.”

“The curfew and alcohol restrictions will be periodically reassessed by senior service leaders,” it added. “There are no restrictions to alcohol consumption aboard any U.S. base or installation.”

“As we begin to venture outside our gates, I remind all of you that we are guests in Japan and must represent our nation with the utmost pride, professionalism and respect for our hosts,” Zilmer said. “I know the overwhelming majority of you are great ambassadors of America and will strive to reinvigorate the great relationship we have with our Japanese neighbors.

“Please look out for one another,” he said.

During the new curfew hours, servicemembers are limited to U.S. military installations or the off-base residences of SOFA status personnel, the release states. They will be allowed to travel between the bases of to the off-base homes of SOFA status personnel via privately owned vehicle, military supported transportation, or commercial taxis, the release said.

[WldChld76]

:thumbup:Woohoo, freedom! Well sorta.:thumbup:

[DoctorP]

DocP just wonders why the military doesn't use it's web platforms better? All of this should be posted where the people can get the information easily. Why should I get my information from S&S first?

[EpicTrainwreck]

Good for almost everyone... I wish those local businesses didn't have to suffer.

[Oxmix]

Sounds like the Gate 2 Street bars are history.

Regards

Ox

[jthizz]

"By David Allen, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 "

pretty sure it only about 2hours in to march 4th still

[Fonze]

Sounds like the Gate 2 Street bars are history.

Regards

Ox

It will be really hard to enforce this no drinking offbase deally.

[DoctorP]

"By David Allen, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 "

pretty sure it only about 2hours in to march 4th still

S&S is printed one day early. This story is not in print yet, but it will be in the Wed edition, and DocP is actually surprised that it shows online already as S&S usually doesn't post stories online that they haven't shown in print yet. DocP suspects that Mr Allen knew he had "hot scoop" and pushed to have it posted early...good thing since the military didn't bother to let it's people know! :rolleyes:

[Fonze]

DocP is kinda scary speaking about DocP like that.

[DoctorP]

DocP is back up to 294lbs because of the lockdown and is pretty damn scary anyway! At least DocP can get a haircut tomorrow! He only cuts his hair off base, because that is the only time a young Okinawan girl can put her hands on him without his wife getting upset! :D

[Fonze]

I can't picture DocPat 294 for some reason. And you have also said Doc probably sees.me around often?

[watzitoou]

I am FREE!! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/yosquiddy/singing.gif

[flower]

whoo hoo!!

[Muku]

Sounds like the Gate 2 Street bars are history.

Regards

Ox
For the enterprising one's they will start to serve high caffeine content drinks, that should do the trick:rolleyes:

[Uchinanchumuku]

The press release ...

Period of Reflection ends, curfew implemented

MARINE CORPS BASE CAMP BUTLER, Okinawa, Japan — Lt. Gen. Richard C. Zilmer,
the Okinawa Area Coordinator and senior U.S. military commander on Okinawa,
met with senior military and civilian leaders from all the services March
3rd to evaluate the effects and impacts of the "Period of Reflection."

During the past two weeks, leaders from each of the military services have
reviewed the procedures and orders that govern the discipline and conduct of
all U.S. service members serving in Okinawa. The review is ongoing and U.S.
military and Japanese officials will continue to discuss ways to work
together toward the common goal of reducing off-base misconduct by
SOFA-status members. All military units and installations in Japan have
recently conducted education and training that reinforces and encourages the
high standards of professionalism and conduct expected of U.S. forces living
in Japan.

To capitalize on these efforts and to allow for further discussions
between all parties, Lt. Gen. Zilmer has decided the "Period of Reflection"
has concluded and that a 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. curfew will be implemented
immediately for all service members. There are no limitations, restrictions
or curfew for civilians or family members.

"The curfew, coupled with ongoing cooperative initiatives with our Japanese
hosts at the national and local level, will offer the best atmosphere for
our service members, family members and civilian employees while reducing
the possibility and risk of misconduct," said Lt. Gen. Zilmer.

Effective immediately, during curfew hours service members are limited to
U.S. military installations or the off-base residences of SOFA status
personnel. During curfew hours, service members are authorized to transit
between U.S. military installations or off-base residences of SOFA status
personnel via privately owned vehicle, military supported transportation, or
commercial taxi.

In addition, service members are restricted from consuming alcohol
off-base, except within the confines of the off-base residences of SOFA
status personnel. There are no alcohol restrictions for civilians or family
members.

The curfew and alcohol restrictions will be periodically reassessed
by senior service leaders.

There are no restrictions to alcohol consumption aboard any U.S.
base or installation.

"As we begin to venture outside our gates, I remind all of you that
we are guests in Japan and must represent our Nation with the utmost pride,
professionalism and respect for our hosts. I know the overwhelming majority
of you are great ambassadors of America and will strive to reinvigorate the
great relationship we have with our Japanese neighbors," Lt. Gen. Zilmer
said. "Please look out for one another."

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=53030:

[Black Orchid]

woo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[FaceTheMusic]

So we can visit our friends off base anytime
We can drink on base or at our house anytime
We can go back and forth between off base housing and base anytime
Civilians can do whatever they want anytime (within the law).
Go out with your dependent wife and she's the only one that can have a glass of wine or whatever.:(

I'm not complaining though. I'm so relieved it's over.:thumbup:

Reading these forums, I saw a lot of people talking about the economic impact of the lockdown. Not suprisingly, most places weathered the short period of reflection. But a few places remain impacted -- those bars and houses of ill repute frequented in the middle of the night by drunk servicemen.:barf:

And I am glad. Let 'em close. I hope this rule on alcohol at off-base establishments makes many of them close. Tough luck on the people who worked there. They don't offer anything real to marines desperate for companionship. They just get them drunk so that they part with their money easier.

Oh and kudos to the General for ending the period of reflection despite the recent incidents! :thumbup1:

[P_chan]

I'm fine with the curfew, it's easy to get around. But I don't really like the no alcohol consumption thing. I don't drink that much, but I do like to enjoy some alcohol every now and then.

I wonder if they will be telling me when to wipe my ass next?

[FDokinawa]

Sounds like the Gate 2 Street bars are history.

Regards

Ox

Guess you wernt on island when the entire gate 2 area was off limits for about 2+ years... I think most of the bars are still there from when that was happening. Guess you have a lot more faith in military members following orders then I do..

[P_chan]

I'm free! Someone pass me a beer.....oh....wait:ohmy:

[billythekid]

So I can forget about my Gold Liberty Card. I am going to frame it.

[rednek72]

Sounds like a great relationship we have with the Okinawan people. We screw up once or twice and we get this type of treatment, they do the same types of things only 100 times more and it dosent even make the local news. Its great to be part of the worlds strongest military just so we can kiss everybody's ass isnt it. By the way didnt Tyrone's charges get dropped anyway ? So why are we still paying for it ? Whatever, guess I'll just shut up and go enjoy my few hours of liberty and sip a friggin coke with my yakitori . :mad:

[DougP]

Guess you wernt on island when the entire gate 2 area was off limits for about 2+ years... I think most of the bars are still there from when that was happening. Guess you have a lot more faith in military members following orders then I do..

Actually he was here before you and me were even born:D

[DougP]

merged with the "I'm free!" thread. Same topic similar discussions and now its all under one thread.:)

[Aidra]

But a few places remain impacted -- those bars and houses of ill repute frequented in the middle of the night by drunk servicemen.:barf:

And I am glad. Let 'em close. I hope this rule on alcohol at off-base establishments makes many of them close. Tough luck on the people who worked there. They don't offer anything real to marines desperate for companionship. They just get them drunk so that they part with their money easier.

Amen to that, darlin'! Amen.

[Black Orchid]

THEY GIVE ME FREEE THEY GIVE ME FREEEEEEEEEEEE!!! lol

* goes to hamby town to spend some monaay*

[P_chan]

Sounds like a great relationship we have with the Okinawan people. We screw up once or twice and we get this type of treatment, they do the same types of things only 100 times more and it dosent even make the local news. Its great to be part of the worlds strongest military just so we can kiss everybody's ass isnt it. By the way didnt Tyrone's charges get dropped anyway ? So why are we still paying for it ? Whatever, guess I'll just shut up and go enjoy my few hours of liberty and sip a friggin coke with my yakitori . :mad:


I had a nice long post for this, but I delted it! I'm not even going to try!

Yes......once or twice.:rolleyes:

[Asshat]

Amen to that, darlin'! Amen.

What houses of ill repute? Please, someone tell me where those are.

Or maybe I should just marry a fat, white woman and pay her instead?

[Ammoyankee]

And I am glad. Let 'em close. I hope this rule on alcohol at off-base establishments makes many of them close. Tough luck on the people who worked there. They don't offer anything real to marines desperate for companionship. They just get them drunk so that they part with their money easier.


Gee, so every place on Gate2 street that serves alcohol is a den of prostitution??? NOT, there are some good bars in the area that are just nice to relax at and you want to condemn those too!

What do you have to offer to the Marines that's better?

[Asshat]

Gee, so every place on Gate2 street that serves alcohol is a den of prostitution??? NOT, there are some good bars in the area that are just nice to relax at and you want to condemn those too!

What do you have to offer to the Marines that's better?

Some warm, fluffy, church-going, yankee affection big boy! :barf:

[P_chan]

What houses of ill repute? Please, someone tell me where those are.

Or maybe I should just marry a fat, white woman and pay her instead?

How dare anyone visit a massage parlor, soapland, or red light district!

Oh well, it's not their fault! It's all those evil pagen whores that work there!:rolleyes:

[proudtobnotpc]

I had a nice long post for this, but I delted it! I'm not even going to try!

Yes......once or twice.:rolleyes:

P-chan sometimes it's just not worth it:cursing:

[Asshat]

How dare anyone visit a massage parlor, soapland, or red light district!

Oh well, it's not their fault! It's all those evil pagen whores that work there!:rolleyes:

But the woman who marries a man because he has a good job and a secure future is not a whore. She pops out a kid or two, puts on a few pounds, becomes mummy dearest and can't figure out why hubby looks for sex elsewhere.

[proudtobnotpc]

It's all those evil pagen whores that work there!:rolleyes:

so I guess christen women can't be whores?

[GoochBomber]

i think the lockdown ebbing down on the civiliands and DoD personel was a smart move. Why in the hell should they be held accountable for mistakes us military peeps make anyways?...most of them have done they're time and moved on, no need to mass punish them with us. And as for people being allowed to go over houses of SOFA staus peeps...sweet son! Party at my place!
And as for the prostitution on gate 2 street: if you walk into a bar and 3 girls run up to you and ask you to sit down....turn and run....straight to the ATM! BAMCIS!

[ArizonaGirl]

But the woman who marries a man because he has a good job and a secure future is not a whore. She pops out a kid or two, puts on a few pounds, becomes mummy dearest and can't figure out why hubby looks for sex elsewhere.

Boy you are JADED!! You need a hug.

[Asshat]

Boy you are JADED!! You need a hug.

Yep. Comes with a long time on this planet, and a long time here listening to good Christian women telling me how subservient Asian women are and how I have gone native, etc. etc.

Please surprise me. I would love to meet an American woman who was cool.

[silviasichigo]

Yep. Comes with a long time on this planet, and a long time here listening to good Christian women telling me how subservient Asian women are and how I have gone native, etc. etc.

Please surprise me. I would love to meet an American woman who was cool.

OR one that does not go into a critical mass explosion after the the tube snake does it's job....:thumbdown:

[rednek72]

I would love too hear your $0.02 on this.


I had a nice long post for this, but I delted it! I'm not even going to try!

Yes......once or twice.:rolleyes:

[RChan]

So we can visit our friends off base anytime
We can drink on base or at our house anytime
We can go back and forth between off base housing and base anytime
Civilians can do whatever they want anytime (within the law).
Go out with your dependent wife and she's the only one that can have a glass of wine or whatever.:(

I'm not complaining though. I'm so relieved it's over.:thumbup:

Reading these forums, I saw a lot of people talking about the economic impact of the lockdown. Not suprisingly, most places weathered the short period of reflection. But a few places remain impacted -- those bars and houses of ill repute frequented in the middle of the night by drunk servicemen.:barf:

And I am glad. Let 'em close. I hope this rule on alcohol at off-base establishments makes many of them close. Tough luck on the people who worked there. They don't offer anything real to marines desperate for companionship. They just get them drunk so that they part with their money easier.

Oh and kudos to the General for ending the period of reflection despite the recent incidents! :thumbup1:

Moronic post. :thumbdown:

[socalheart]

Heck, show me a subservient Asian woman who'd marry a foreigner! I've seen more subservient "good Christian" women. heh.
Yep. Comes with a long time on this planet, and a long time here listening to good Christian women telling me how subservient Asian women are and how I have gone native, etc. etc.
Please surprise me. I would love to meet an American woman who was cool.

[EpicTrainwreck]

And I am glad. Let 'em close. I hope this rule on alcohol at off-base establishments makes many of them close. Tough luck on the people who worked there. They don't offer anything real to marines desperate for companionship. They just get them drunk so that they part with their money easier. :thumbup1::thumbdown:

It isn't about the Marines... they should be able to take care of themselves. A lot of those folks working in bars out Gate 2 are decent people. Most have families that they are trying to support.

[obscure21]

Heck, show me a subservient Asian woman who'd marry a foreigner! I've seen more subservient "good Christian" women. heh.

Not saying that I married a Japanese woman to have a subservient wife, but... I was in for one hell of a surprise. You just cant listen to what those "good Christian" women have to say bout those subservient Asians. Subservient my ass...:crying:

[FaceTheMusic]

Gee, so every place on Gate2 street that serves alcohol is a den of prostitution??? NOT, there are some good bars in the area that are just nice to relax at and you want to condemn those too!

What do you have to offer to the Marines that's better?

If you read what I said, I didn't say the bars are dens of prostitution. I just said both are affected. Thanks for pointing out the similarity between the two, in that the entertainment is in the form of female companionship, and it comes with a standard fee.

As for the nice bars, I'll agree with you -- I don't want to condemn those. But shoganai, how are you going to keep service members out of some bars and not others? MURI!:old:

[RenaissanceMan]

I am glad you guys are free...now me and my wife can get some customers back in. Thank You Jesus.

[Ammoyankee]

If you read what I said, I didn't say the bars are dens of prostitution. I just said both are affected. Thanks for pointing out the similarity between the two, in that the entertainment is in the form of female companionship, and it comes with a standard fee.

As for the nice bars, I'll agree with you -- I don't want to condemn those. But shoganai, how are you going to keep service members out of some bars and not others? MURI!:old:

In the original messqge, you didn't seem to have concern for any of the bars as quoted below...


But a few places remain impacted -- those bars and houses of ill repute frequented in the middle of the night by drunk servicemen.
And I am glad. Let 'em close. I hope this rule on alcohol at off-base establishments makes many of them close. Tough luck on the people who worked there. They don't offer anything real to marines desperate for companionship. They just get them drunk so that they part with their money easier.

[Asshat]

I'm still wondering where the houses of ill repute are. Besides the base chapels I mean.

[FaceTheMusic]

And as for the prostitution on gate 2 street: if you walk into a bar and 3 girls run up to you and ask you to sit down....turn and run....straight to the ATM! BAMCIS!

R O F L !! Yeah, I went down that road once. But what a waste of cash!:thumbdown:

I like the idea of party at my place better. Or just touring Naha for a day trip down Kokusai:cool:. If you want to meet real girls, you can meet them at Starbucks. Miihama ain't that bad for meeting girls, my wife tells me that's where the Japanese girls go who want to meet military guys.

But if these marines go no further than the gate outside their base and drop all their money there, they have no hope of meeting the real girls.

Also, and this is not directed at you but to certain others: Can try to stop to equating marriage with prostitution? It's not the least bit clever. I think we all know what we're talking about when it comes to paid companionship of any type. Let's not drag each other's moms into it or what have you. Did that in college.:old:


And in honor of the six troop leading steps:
:79:
YUT!

[slickmetal]

Well Monday kept us in limbo, as the rumors flew of another week...Just like when he did his initial TV spot for AFN, he did it late and night and at the last second!

Of all the off-topic posts in here - but all I can say is everyone please keep there heads up, don't make the locals mad and keep your noses clean and out of trouble....this time! I would like to thank everyone on the japan update forums on keeping good conversation and expessing all there opinions on all the recent events prior, during and now after the period of reflection...I'm also sorry for you frequent off-base drinkers, but that too shall pass ... soon I hope. Glad you all made it through it and see ya off base! That is all!

[DOCROB]

But the woman who marries a man because he has a good job and a secure future is not a whore. She pops out a kid or two, puts on a few pounds, becomes mummy dearest and can't figure out why hubby looks for sex elsewhere.

A little weight is an understatement.:scared::eek: Besides most of the locals I know with kids are skinnier than they were before they had kids.

[Asshat]

But if these marines go no further than the gate outside their base and drop all their money there, they have no hope of meeting the real girls.

Also, and this is not directed at you but to certain others: Can try to stop to equating marriage with prostitution? It's not the least bit clever. I think we all know what we're talking about when it comes to paid companionship of any type.

Sure! Can you and certain others stop refering to girls who work in bars as prostitutes?

OTH, maybe not. I've seen too many "happily married" husbands cheat on their wives in certain locales and too many "happily married" wives trolling the clubs while hubby was gone.

[Asshat]

A little weight is an understatement.:scared::eek: Besides most of the locals I know with kids are skinnier than they were before they had kids.

I don't know why, but every time I go to the PX with the wife, I end up in the ladies bloomers department. I hate that area. So I have decided to make the best of an uncomfortable situation and check out the bloomers.

There are some truely BIG pantys at the PX! I like to hold them up, then call my wife loudly while she peruses the 34B's. Everyone looks at me, even the fat women.

Cruel, I know. But loads of FUN!

[EatMoreFish]

I wonder if anyone has beat the crap out of SSgt Hadnott yet?

[Kinrat]

It isn't over yer:old: Mark my words.

[slickmetal]

I wonder if anyone has beat the crap out of SSgt Hadnott yet?

Nah, even though he was a catalyst, its was the drunken break-in (which really is moot now) and DUI that happened after the stand-down day and meetings of dicipline that made the General institute the lockdown.

Tired of hearing how it was him that we need to blame, but we need to blame the idiots messing it up for us after we were told to stay out of trouble.

[slickmetal]

It isn't over yer:old: Mark my words.

yep, like i said in my earlier post....STAY THE HECK OUT OF TROUBLE.

Now that we should have less, or NO drunken stupors out off-base and no one out off-base after 10pm, we should be ok...just have to deal with minor crap on-base, but in the eyes of the bosses, thats fine.

unless...

you sneak out under the fence. again.

Or they drink early at someones residence or on-base then go off base before 10 and do something stupid.

[jinseinotatsujin]

Wait! I have a question. According to the new curfew regulations, usmilitary folks cannot go out to drink; however, does that mean that we cannot go to a bar and have a soda? I think they might have done this to show those who own bars on Gate 2 that we are not trying to run them out of business, but are trying to prevent more mishaps from occuring.

I say that if there are bar establishments that you want to support, go to them and have a couple of non-alcoholic drinks and some food. That way everyone can be happy, ne?

[Asshat]

I say that if there are bar establishments that you want to support, go to them and have a couple of non-alcoholic drinks and some food. That way everyone can be happy, ne?

Sure...but as a drunk, I can attest that the folks who caused the stir did so under the influence and no-doubt have a worse relationship with booze than even I. Thus, they should not frequent Al's or Harry's and be tempted to mix a bit of vodak with their coke.

[willowtree]

I think its great that the lockdown has been lifted! We cannot forget however how we got there to begin with. We are under scruntiny here and need to watch our backs along with our friends. I don't want to be in this situation again.

[Fire4Effect]

Anyone know of any good Tea or Milk bars....

[GoochBomber]

What i don't understand is, if the charges were dropped and he didn't rape her then why are we still being punished....who took the F*cking cookie from the cookie jar this time?...apparently not us

[acidcrash]

What i don't understand is, if the charges were dropped and he didn't rape her then why are we still being punished....who took the F*cking cookie from the cookie jar this time?...apparently not us
Charges were dropped yes. Whether he raped her or not is undetermined until the investigation is over. The punishment continues for the following acts, trespassing and vandalism, alleged rape (sodomy) of a bar girl, counterfeiting, DUI, Drug bust...
I mean.. that is just a guess....:rolleyes:

[civilian1]

Freedom,,or something like that...

[dweener]

I think i remember the words "your ass belongs to us now" at the the enlistment ceremony....
So, the good thing is now I have tons of story to tell my kids when they get older (and born).

[Blackbyte]

What i don't understand is, if the charges were dropped and he didn't rape her then why are we still being punished....who took the F*cking cookie from the cookie jar this time?...apparently not us

Well, let's see here. According to CNN, he admitted to putting his hands under her clothes and trying to kiss her but denied raping her. He's 38; she's 14. At the least it sounds to me like he admitted to child molestation.

[P_chan]

so I guess christen women can't be whores?

Of course not!:w00t:

[P_chan]

Yep. Comes with a long time on this planet, and a long time here listening to good Christian women telling me how subservient Asian women are and how I have gone native, etc. etc.

Please surprise me. I would love to meet an American woman who was cool.

I'm still waiting for my wife to hit that stereotypical subservient Asian woman stage:ohmy:

I'm not holding my breath.

[Kye77]

Yay, yakiniku time!

I'm so happy for the people who had folks visiting but were unlucky to get caught in the lockdown. Bring them to yakiniku, YUM!

[okisteve]

Not saying that I married a Japanese woman to have a subservient wife, but... I was in for one hell of a surprise. You just cant listen to what those "good Christian" women have to say bout those subservient Asians. Subservient my ass...:crying:

Your post is a little ambiguous, but maybe I know what you mean. I think of my wife as a mixture of Silk and Steel. I've known a few Americans or Europeans who could come close, but they weren't good Christians!

[okisteve]

I'm still wondering where the houses of ill repute are. Besides the base chapels I mean.

Low blow! :first:

All the places I know have pretty good reputations.

[Kye77]

I think i remember the words "your ass belongs to us now" at the the enlistment ceremony....
So, the good thing is now I have tons of story to tell my kids when they get older (and born).

Hah, or a mom telling her teenage kids she owns the very air they breathe till they are independent.

[pandalvr2003]

Red Card, Yellow Card, Now Blue Cards-go to the bar meet chic go home at 2200 with masive blue cards.

[Black Orchid]

huh? blue cards?

[mikersoft]

Congratulations on making parole, everyone. :thumbup1:

-Mike

[Gerle]

huh? blue cards?

Don't the AF have blue or silver cards?

[UminchuWannabe]

I think i remember the words "your ass belongs to us now" at the the enlistment ceremony....
All your ass are belong to us!

[Jrocka83]

All your ass are belong to us!

"They can have my ass, But they can never have my heart."
-Jrocka83

[Black Orchid]

i dont know.. i havent seen the AF libo cards

[GoochBomber]

hmm...put in my place good.