Okinawans arrested on rape, molestation charges

[JUNewsBot]

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A 13-year-old junior high school girl is the latest rape victim, and Okinawa Prefecture Police have arrested the suspect.The accused, Yoshitaka Oshiro, has confessed, and was arrested on suspicion of rape under provisions of the youth protection measures.

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[DougP]

no way, I thought only Marines did that kind of stuff.:D JUNewsBot = Fair and balanced.:)

[silviasichigo]

nuh uhn no he didn't he tripped and she was sweatty and he fell into the 13yo cavern

[waddell]

U.S. Marines shaking heads at new incidents involving Okinawans!!

[Ammoyankee]

I would have to wonder, how did she end up in a hotel with this freak? Was it forced or voluntary? Was she perhaps financing a new Guchi purse?

The Okinawan PTA has more to worry about than cigarette butts and graffiti.

[Muku]

I would have to wonder, how did she end up in a hotel with this freak? Was it forced or voluntary? Was she perhaps financing a new Guchi purse?

The Okinawan PTA has more to worry about than cigarette butts and graffiti.

You might be surprised but somehow I doubt it.

[Crazysix]

they need to protest old people now!!!

[Oki0619]

U.S. Marines shaking heads at new incidents involving Okinawans!!

I am sure I will recieve a royalty check for this blatant theft of my material:cursing:

[Isaak Brodsky]

I am sure I will recieve a royalty check for this blatant theft of my material:cursing:

Maybe Waddell is playing on that now-famous news story headline. No?

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

As you can read, the dude was charged for violating the youth protection law...sounds roughly equivalent to statutory rape. Very likely what Tyrone is going to be charged with if enough evidence is collected. Doesn't matter if the girl went to the hotel willingly in this most recent case. She is underage, and the guy knew it. Same with the girl that went to the old man's place for cash. She may have been willing, but the guy sounds guilty of corrupting a minor. Seems fairly cut & dried in both cases.

[hapsan]

I wonder if they called the world news media to let the world know that an Okinawan raped a 13 year old girl?

[Isaak Brodsky]

Yeah, true dat.

[DougP]

Yeah, true dat.

Yeah dawg, fo sho:thumbup:

[Oki0619]

Maybe Waddell is playing on that now-famous news story headline. No?

Yes but perhaps he read my use of it in the other story (PTA finds)and came over here and used it as is own material, good thing there are time stamps on all posts.

[NibiKitsune]

Yeah dawg, fo sho:thumbup:

lol, fo shizzle:thumbup1:

[DougP]

Give the kids maps, it will prevent this from happening. Just ask the PTA.:D

[LooseCannon]

I would have to wonder, how did she end up in a hotel with this freak? Was it forced or voluntary? Was she perhaps financing a new Guchi purse?

The Okinawan PTA has more to worry about than cigarette butts and graffiti.

He offered her a ride on his scooter!:thumbup:

[LooseCannon]

I wonder if they called the world news media to let the world know that an Okinawan raped a 13 yearold girl?

I forwarded it to one of my contacts at CNN, they told me to go pound sand!:thumbdown:

[NibiKitsune]

I forwarded it to one of my contacts at CNN, they told me to go pound sand!:thumbdown:

so much for a fair and unbalanced media..:army:

[cetoto]

rape is a common crime in the pacific region.

[Doomrider]

Mutant's subsist off rape. It's a proven scientific fact.

[Big_Papa]

rape is a common crime in the pacific region.

Common for who? How many times have you been raped? How many rapists do you personally know?

Keep in mind, that last fri the prosecutor here told the media that there was NO SEX between the Marine and the young lady. NONE... That was 4 days ago...

Anyway, common for who?

[LooseCannon]

It makes sense to me now! Last nites OTV news had absolutely nothing pertaining to the alleged rape by the Marine, the alleged rape by the soldier or the military lock down and how businesses are hurting. That's because they had these two stories about the rapes by locals and sat on them. That's right ladies and gentlemen, they ignored these stories completely! Fair and balanced journalism Uchina style.

[Muku]

I forwarded it to one of my contacts at CNN, they told me to go pound sand!:thumbdown:


Sadly enough it isnt news. My heart goes out to any woman that has been the victim of rape or molestation.

[EatMoreFish]

I forwarded it to one of my contacts at CNN, they told me to go pound sand!:thumbdown:

Take it once part further. Teenage positution is common here (Japan). It is estimated that 10% of all high school girls do it. And what makes things even worse is that 30% of the other population thinks that its no big deal.

[flower]

So does this mean Okinawans can be locked down too? Where is our freedom. They can come on our base, but we continue to be on restriction.

[Big_Papa]

I'm calling OTV to request a story..

098-863-2111

[slickmetal]

monkey see, monkey do! Guess he will blame it on our corruption of him that drove him to do it. Hes probably realted to the kids that were arrested the other day then.

My condolances to the raped. :(

[waddell]

I am sure I will recieve a royalty check for this blatant theft of my material:cursing:

oh you already posted that i didnt see it my bad but its true right i mean what do the okinawans get probably a slap on the wrist and points off there liscenes i mean come on those certain few need to quit being so bias, the majority of them are good people and the bad ones makes them also look bad just like here in the military, what i was getting at when i wrote that is " Are we so different?".

[waddell]

Yes but perhaps he read my use of it in the other story (PTA finds)and came over here and used it as is own material, good thing there are time stamps on all posts.

oh come on guy grow up it isnt like you had to use much brain power to come up with that we all know this. i was just using the other headline and turning the words around never seen yours.

[NibiKitsune]

Take it once part further. Teenage positution is common here (Japan). It is estimated that 10% of all high school girls do it. And what makes things even worse is that 30% of the other population thinks that its no big deal.

Hey fish where did you find those stats? Is it just common knowledge or are there hard facts? I would like to use this as a topic of discussion in my class.

[waddell]

So does this mean Okinawans can be locked down too? Where is our freedom. They can come on our base, but we continue to be on restriction.

i agree totally i was trying argue this, they do something bad get a slap on the wrist no restrictions come to them, we get on total lockdown whats up with that.

[NibiKitsune]

While i don't personally don't agree with the lockdown i do think that if are going to be "locked down" then that should mean no one on or off...with the exception of family members and such.

I have a girlfriend out in town whom i care about very much and would love to see just in case anyone thinks i'm being biased.

[EatMoreFish]

i agree totally i was trying argue this, they do something bad get a slap on the wrist no restrictions come to them, we get on total lockdown whats up with that.


What’s up with that is that we are a guest here. We were not born here. We did not petition the Japanese Gov for a visa. Either the US Gov or our companies told the Japanese Gov that we were coming. So that even makes us an uninvited guest. And when you are a guest...... do not piss on the neighboors dog.

[P_chan]

So does this mean Okinawans can be locked down too? Where is our freedom. They can come on our base, but we continue to be on restriction.


News flash! THIS IS THEIR COUNTRY NOT OURS! Why should locals be forbidden from base? My wife is Uchinanchu, and her family is my family. Are you trying to say that my family should be banned from coming on base?

[cetoto]

[QUOTE=Big_Papa;70000]Common for who? How many times have you been

[icclearly]

So, where are all the protest? Is it ok for the locals to rape their own?

[Crash]

obviously you dont protest your own to the extent you would of a foreign group in your land. at home you make changes by voting or by putting together systems like neighborhood watch.
you can't fix an issue by walking up to the foreign group and saying "get out" and expect it to do shit...
protesting is annoying but think about it.. how else do they show their discontent towards us?

[EatMoreFish]

News flash! THIS IS THEIR COUNTRY NOT OURS! Why should locals be forbidden from base? My wife is Uchinanchu, and her family is my family. Are you trying to say that my family should be banned from coming on base?

Easy big guy!! They know not what they say.

[waddell]

Easy big guy!! They know not what they say.

for both of you, you know not what you say, it is people with common beliefs and who are not seekers of the truth that ridicule everyone else for their own beliefs. So i ask you this can you tell me what happened to this Island in 1945, and what about 1972. Ok a quick break down, we took over okinawa meaning it was governed by the US NOT JAPAN then we were considerate enough to GIVE THIS ISLAND BACK TO THEM!! so doesn't that deserve some degree of gratuity and respect if it doesn't then fine stone me to death but those are my beliefs.

[waddell]

News flash! THIS IS THEIR COUNTRY NOT OURS! Why should locals be forbidden from base? My wife is Uchinanchu, and her family is my family. Are you trying to say that my family should be banned from coming on base?

My wife is also Japanese guy and her family is my family what we are trying to say is friends of the family, not everyone should be able to have base privaleges because thats what it is its a privalege NOT a RIGHT if you are not SOFA status how you people need to start thinking with your brains.

[Jrocka83]

Put all Okinawa-Girls on Lock-Down or force them to where chastity belts:dead:.

[Crash]

it's kind of like getting back someone's stolen property.. and when you return it to them you say "where is my reward" or am I missing your thought process?

and besides, since we are on lock down many people shouldn't have a problem going to the BX and buying tissues since they are crying like bitchs.

just deal with the shit like the rest of us adults

[P_chan]

for both of you, you know not what you say, it is people with common beliefs and who are not seekers of the truth that ridicule everyone else for their own beliefs. So i ask you this can you tell me what happened to this Island in 1945, and what about 1972. Ok a quick break down, we took over okinawa meaning it was governed by the US NOT JAPAN then we were considerate enough to GIVE THIS ISLAND BACK TO THEM!! so doesn't that deserve some degree of gratuity and respect if it doesn't then fine stone me to death but those are my beliefs.

Gratuitude? Ha, that's the biggest load of bull! If we really wanted to be grateful, we would have given this island back to the Uchinanchus and not the japanese.

[P_chan]

My wife is also Japanese guy and her family is my family what we are trying to say is friends of the family, not everyone should be able to have base privaleges because thats what it is its a privalege NOT a RIGHT if you are not SOFA status how you people need to start thinking with your brains.

But my wife isn't SOFA. She can never really be SOFA.

[waddell]

Gratuitude? Ha, that's the biggest load of bull! If we really wanted to be grateful, we would have given this island back to the Uchinanchus and not the japanese.

you dont get it do you, in that case you never will and you are a lost cause.

[EatMoreFish]

for both of you, you know not what you say, it is people with common beliefs and who are not seekers of the truth that ridicule everyone else for their own beliefs. So i ask you this can you tell me what happened to this Island in 1945, and what about 1972. Ok a quick break down, we took over okinawa meaning it was governed by the US NOT JAPAN then we were considerate enough to GIVE THIS ISLAND BACK TO THEM!! so doesn't that deserve some degree of gratuity and respect if it doesn't then fine stone me to death but those are my beliefs.

And just when would the statue of limitations run out on our perceived kindness?

[waddell]

But my wife isn't SOFA. She can never really be SOFA.

why not??with all seriousness

[Oki0619]

If you are a Japanese Citizen you have the right to be here you are not SOFA.

[waddell]

And just when would the statue of limitations run out on our perceived kindness?

never, now i am not saying we are all little F******* angels running around helping people, there are the stupid but to put the blame on all americans wont help anything just like everything i have ever said i am not blaming all okinawans for being hateful towards americans but its the certain few that need to the realization of what we are really doing here. Its not to harm them it to protect other countries thats why this is considered a foward deployment. Its all just common sense should i break myself down anymore....

[xXNothingnessXx]

I may be wrong but I always thought if you carried a DOD ID card you fell under SOFA. Again I say I may be wrong.

[waddell]

If you are a Japanese Citizen you have the right to be here you are not SOFA.

i know but why wouldnt they be able to get command sponsored if they are married to a military service member?

[depwets]

It makes sense to me now! Last nites OTV news had absolutely nothing pertaining to the alleged rape by the Marine, the alleged rape by the soldier or the military lock down and how businesses are hurting. That's because they had these two stories about the rapes by locals and sat on them. That's right ladies and gentlemen, they ignored these stories completely! Fair and balanced journalism Uchina style.

:thumbup: Havent seen anything about anywhere, found out about local rape on J-Update

[depwets]

I'm calling OTV to request a story..

098-863-2111

Got to let me/us know what they said if you did:thumbup1:

[waddell]

I may be wrong but I always thought if you carried a DOD ID card you fell under SOFA. Again I say I may be wrong.

anyone here under contract with the government falls under the SOFA agreement. if i am wrong please let me know thanks.

[DougP]

I may be wrong but I always thought if you carried a DOD ID card you fell under SOFA. Again I say I may be wrong.

Absolutely the fall under SOFA. But according to that SOFA that they fall under the Military has no right to restrict them.:thumbup1:

[waddell]

:thumbup: Havent seen anything about anywhere, found out about local rape on J-Update

awsome thats all i want is a fair justice system.

[Brand_X]

Americans and service members especially are see on a different level. Being one of the greatest nations we are held to higher standards. Isnt it great the Japanese think so highly of us? It seems that we get the short end of the stick but it us who are letting the native people here down when one of us does something like this.

Its sad this happens but dont complain that he gets a slap on the wrist and we get a "lockdown". The people looking at us here dont see us as individuals like they do for eachother. Besides you dont know what his punishment will be yet.

If your civilian SOFA status and dont like it go back to the states. If your a service member your stuck. Do your tour and PCS out when your time comes. You could always be stuck in a small ass FOB in the outskirts of Ramadi. Trust me I know its a lot worse then being here in a lockdown. This is for all the people with hate comments. The ones joking making light of a bad situation "Rock on!".

I know he didnt rape her it was in depth after school tutoring on anatomy.


Oh and we gave Okinawa back because it was outlined in the treaty we signed. I pretty sure thats how it worked anyways.

We need some lighter news. All this Rape and food poisoning sucks ass. Arnt there some Cherry Blossom Festivals coming up or something?

[depwets]

Put all Okinawa-Girls on Lock-Down or force them to where chastity belts:dead:.

go for the chastity belt haha

[hankypanky]

anyone here under contract with the government falls under the SOFA agreement. if i am wrong please let me know thanks.

i'm a local contractior and i don't fall under anyone except my wife. have rules to follow that are in my contract, but as far as sofa goes, if i need legal services that are connected to my contractoral business, i have to go through japanese legal system.

[hankypanky]

I may be wrong but I always thought if you carried a DOD ID card you fell under SOFA. Again I say I may be wrong.

your wrong. myself and a few others have retired id's, but we are not sofa, we just have access to everything on the base except the post office and bank. Best of both worlds.

[Crash]

*SNIP*

yeah no shit, doing the mortar shuffle is entertaining to say the least.. I get used to it over there but at least we aren't shot at here :thumbup:

[P_chan]

Right.....lost cause:rolleyes:

Maybe you should be more clear in your OP, before you call me a lost cause.

why not??with all seriousness

Because she is a japanese citizen. Unless I she revokes her citizenship for american citizenship, then she doesn't fall under sofa. IIRC you can't hold both american and japanese citizenship.

Command sponsered and american citizenship are two totally different things. She is command sponsered, but still a japaense citizen.

[hankypanky]

Right.....lost cause:rolleyes:

Maybe you should be more clear in your OP, before you call me a lost cause.



Because she is a japanese citizen. Unless I she revokes her citizenship for american citizenship, then she doesn't fall under sofa. IIRC you can't hold both american and japanese citizenship.

sofa is more of the legal bull. but she can lose command sponsorship and the member will be up a creek.

[waddell]

i'm a local contractior and i don't fall under anyone except my wife. have rules to follow that are in my contract, but as far as sofa goes, if i need legal services that are connected to my contractoral business, i have to go through japanese legal system.


well thanks didnt know that but why do you fall under your wife.

[hankypanky]

well thanks didnt know that but why do you fall under your wife.

it's a sex thing crazy:D

[jinseinotatsujin]

Take it once part further. Teenage positution is common here (Japan). It is estimated that 10% of all high school girls do it. And what makes things even worse is that 30% of the other population thinks that its no big deal.


I read an article a while back about a Japanese phrase called "暗黙の了解" which in English means "unspoken, implicit agreement". The general interpretation of this phrase it used to describe an agreement between to parties to look the other way when they are breaking the law in order for mutual benefit. EatMoreFish mentioned that the majority of the population thinks that it's no big deal and I cannot help but agree. How is it that these politicians have the nerve to criticize us on our so-called "slack discipline and shallow morals" when they allow rampant/blatant prostitution all over Okinawa. Delivery Health, Soap Bars, Salons, please! The Main soap district down in Naha has been thriving for years and it is literally blocks away from the Okinawan Prefecture Government. Strange? Obviously they need to focus on these illicit business practices before they worry about how one little rape is going to lead to the downfall of their society.

[Oki0619]

your wrong. myself and a few others have retired id's, but we are not sofa, we just have access to everything on the base except the post office and bank. Best of both worlds.

What you can't use the bank?? Oh man what am I gonna do with the $183 dollars I have saved over my career.

[waddell]

Right.....lost cause:rolleyes:

Maybe you should be more clear in your OP, before you call me a lost cause.



Because she is a japanese citizen. Unless I she revokes her citizenship for american citizenship, then she doesn't fall under sofa. IIRC you can't hold both american and japanese citizenship.

Command sponsered and american citizenship are two totally different things. She is command sponsered, but still a japaense citizen.


yeah but they consider anyone who holds a dependent ID SOFA status, but if what you say is true does than mean my wife not obligated to this lockdown?

[hankypanky]

SOAPIES TO THE RESCUE:thumbup:

[hankypanky]

What you can't use the bank?? Oh man what am I gonna do with the $183 dollars I have saved over my career.

The bank is for sofa status only. it is a contracted bank. navy fed is ok because it is federal. no problem, get a better exchange on yen in chatan jusco:D

post office says it does not have enough boxes for retirees, but korea seems to allow it?!

[waddell]

Right.....lost cause:rolleyes:

Maybe you should be more clear in your OP, before you call me a lost cause.



Because she is a japanese citizen. Unless I she revokes her citizenship for american citizenship, then she doesn't fall under sofa. IIRC you can't hold both american and japanese citizenship.

Command sponsered and american citizenship are two totally different things. She is command sponsered, but still a japaense citizen.

also its has been a hard day and i am an advist debater and well ill be a hypocrite it if bash you for your own opinion sorry about that mate!

[P_chan]

sofa is more of the legal bull. but she can lose command sponsorship and the member will be up a creek.

True she can lose command sponsorship. But what would they take it away for? Trying to restrict a citizen in their own country?

[P_chan]

also its has been a hard day and i am an advist debater and well ill be a hypocrite it if bash you for your own opinion sorry about that mate!


Don't worry, no hard feelings.

[DougP]

I love hearing, if you don't like it you can go back to the states. "The love it or leave it" is a popular retort commonly used by the close minded or ignorant to shut up anyone with a good idea or who might actually be making sense of a situation.

Let's see if this argument actually applies any real logic to everyday life. Let's say you're driving your car and it breaks down. According to the "love it or leave it" following you should either sell your car or love it the way it is now, broke.

Another statement that usually made by "love it or leave it" crowd is that this place or situation is better than other places and situations. However, being the best or just plain better does not justify all actions.

Oh well back to beating my head on the brick wall.

[hankypanky]

True she can lose command sponsorship. But what would they take it away for? Trying to restrict a citizen in their own country?

just because they can? do as i say, not as i do

[waddell]

it's a sex thing crazy:D

haha got it, i went in a totally different direction with it at first haha

[P_chan]

yeah but they consider anyone who holds a dependent ID SOFA status, but if what you say is true does than mean my wife not obligated to this lockdown?


Oh, and my wife holds a dependant ID, and she is not restricted right now. She also drives a hiragana plate, so no one is harassing her right now.

[waddell]

Oh, and my wife holds a dependant ID, and she is not restricted right now. She also drives a hiragana plate, so no one is harassing her right now.

Awsome so what if my wife drives a Y plate and has an ID card is she still on lockdown??

[Brand_X]

I love hearing, if you don't like it you can go back to the states. "The love it or leave it" is a popular retort commonly used by the close minded or ignorant to shut up anyone with a good idea or who might actually be making sense of a situation.

Let's see if this argument actually applies any real logic to everyday life. Let's say you're driving your car and it breaks down. According to the "love it or leave it" following you should either sell your car or love it the way it is now, broke.

Another statement that usually made by "love it or leave it" crowd is that this place or situation is better than other places and situations. However, being the best or just plain better does not justify all actions.

Oh well back to beating my head on the brick wall.


Car breaks down many do just sell it unless its under warranty. Especially in Okinawa! Most people here that give the "love it or leave it" say that because all they hear are complaints and no solutions. Take the time to read the two hot topics and you will see that most are just complaints. I dont expect people to leave I just hope to get more constructive comments by making people think once in a while.

Hahaaha that or I the devils advocate trying to heat up the conversation more. Muahhahahaa...

[DougP]

Car breaks down many do just sell it unless its under warranty. Especially in Okinawa! Most people here that give the "love it or leave it" say that because all they hear are complaints and no solutions. Take the time to read the two hot topics and you will see that most are just complaints.

Nothing wrong with complaints. If you saw something you felt was wrong would you speak up about it? This happens all the time especially on forums. Nobody is going to spell out a laundry list of solutions on here. And in this case what kind of solution would they have to come up with. Its pretty simple here. Don't violate US citizens constitutional rights and don't restrict local nationals from the right to movement in their own country. And about all don't use coercion in an attempt to threaten others into playing a political game. There it is, a solution and an easy one at that.:D

[Trail]

I dunno this whole thing is a mess. I believe the JP should not be policing what our DoD is clearly trying to handle themselves. From my perspective, this is an internal matter in which DoD should have the upper hand, not the Japanese government. They should leave us to police our own for this period of reflection because the tattle-taling is only making us more bitter about the whole thing since it shows they now have control over us more than our own government. I WILL respect that it is their own country and they are protecting their people. However, this lock down was brought down by our government, not theirs.

Bottom line, anywhere you live, you need to follow the laws and rules set by the country whether it be USA, Germany, Japan, etc or by your DoD. It is unfortunate that so many service members mess up so bad since it ruins the over all image of the rest of us.

[Tony Stacks]

Bottom line, anywhere you live, you need to follow the laws and rules set by the country


Then why was'nt the military allowed to do shrooms when they were legal here in Japan?

I hate double standards.:rolleyes:

[Trail]

Then why was'nt the military allowed to do shrooms when they were legal here in Japan?

I hate double standards.:rolleyes:

LMAO Shrooms would make the lock down more fun! :thumbup:

[P_chan]

Awsome so what if my wife drives a Y plate and has an ID card is she still on lockdown??

If your in the air force, and she's a japanese citizen, then she is not restricted. However, I'm not sure how it works for marines.

[LooseCannon]

your wrong. myself and a few others have retired id's, but we are not sofa, we just have access to everything on the base except the post office and bank. Best of both worlds.

Same here Hank. Ain't it great!:thumbup1:

[LooseCannon]

What you can't use the bank?? Oh man what am I gonna do with the $183 dollars I have saved over my career.

Retirees can use Navy Federal bank but if you want or in our case need to get Yen, we have to resort to the Community Bank ATM and draw it in 40,000 Yen a day intervals.:old:

[Ammoyankee]

If your in the air force, and she's a japanese citizen, then she is not restricted. However, I'm not sure how it works for marines.


No P, she is still restricted... there are some rumors about travel to family home being ok but she still cannot be in a Y plate at Jusco shopping...

[Tony Stacks]

THEY CANNOT RESTRICT THE MOVEMENT OF JAPANESE CITIZENS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!
STOP believing this trash!

[DougP]

THEY CANNOT RESTRICT THE MOVEMENT OF JAPANESE CITIZENS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!
STOP believing this trash!

Its not about whether or not we believe it its about whether of not "they" use the ol' but we ordered you not to, bullshit. Sure they may in the wrong to restrict a local but according to military logic they can still get you for not following orders. Basically from what I gather, if they wanted you to jump off a bridge they would have every right to order you to do so. Not sure how that makes sense but then again, does any of this crap going on make sense?

[flower]

News flash! THIS IS THEIR COUNTRY NOT OURS! Why should locals be forbidden from base? My wife is Uchinanchu, and her family is my family. Are you trying to say that my family should be banned from coming on base?


CALM down...all I am saying is that we all have to suffer for some stupid soldiers..I think it has gone too far to totally ban all sofa personnel from all establishments outside of post..and for how long- that's too much control. I was also directing the fact that Okinawans are committing crimes just as well. It should go both ways. If we are so bad then stay off base as well.

[Ammoyankee]

JUNewsBot Has Just Posted the Following:

A 13-year-old junior high school girl is the latest rape victim, and Okinawa Prefecture Police have arrested the suspect.The accused, Yoshitaka Oshiro, has confessed, and was arrested on suspicion of rape under provisions of the youth protection measures.

Click here to view the article. (http://www.japanupdate.com/?id=8437)

Feel free to hold a discussion regarding this article here.

I'll bet it really was an American in a Japanese costume with half a pen!$!

[nipponliving]

Its not about whether or not we believe it its about whether of not "they" use the ol' but we ordered you not to, bullshit. Sure they may in the wrong to restrict a local but according to military logic they can still get you for not following orders. Basically from what I gather, if they wanted you to jump off a bridge they would have every right to order you to do so. Not sure how that makes sense but then again, does any of this crap going on make sense?

Good point!

[mr.reasonable]

lets go outside and protest the okinawans.. i will refuse to eat any more yakisoba!!!

[koralle]

I have a really stupid question: Where does it say that the military has the right to restrict the movments of dependants??? What does it actually say??? And since we live in a free country : where do we all complain??

[DougP]

Well according to the military and the supporters of this order... "Grunt grunt grunt, mumble mumble mumble grunt huff huff ugh!!" Which means, um... well I guess that's reason enough right there.:D

[Muku]

lets go outside and protest the okinawans.. i will refuse to eat any more yakisoba!!!
Never really liked yakisoba anyway. :thumbup:

[P_chan]

CALM down...all I am saying is that we all have to suffer for some stupid soldiers..I think it has gone too far to totally ban all sofa personnel from all establishments outside of post..and for how long- that's too much control. I was also directing the fact that Okinawans are committing crimes just as well. It should go both ways. If we are so bad then stay off base as well.

If you want to get real technical, the base is still their land. So why shouldn't they be allowed on it? Don't bitch at the okinawans for coming on base because your locked down. If anything, bitch at your own for acting like fools out in town.

[P_chan]

Never really liked yakisoba anyway. :thumbup:\

You're going to hell for saying that!

Have you ever had it made with american bacon? Makes a world of difference!

[KumaNoPooh]

I know with the lockdown if we are lock out they should be to all these people building stuff on base the slot trolls and the people playing golf and eating at our resturants, just trying to be fair and balanced here. Don't get me wrong here I love my okinawa and will stay until the day I die.. But the Gen. needs to be fair.

[Muku]

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You're going to hell for saying that!

Have you ever had it made with american bacon? Makes a world of difference!

P you realize where I am living? American Bacon:crying:

[whatthe...!!]

Here's one reason why they should at least limit how many locals come on base and the reason they are coming on base. The clubs were jammed full on base this last weekend with Marines/Airman etc. and all of them are gettting drunk with all the local girls now coming on base to party intead of hitting the clubs and bars out in town. All it would take is for one to get to drunk wind up somewhere doing something she suddenly doesn't like and now the incident has happened on base. Has happened before.

[P_chan]

P you realize where I am living? American Bacon:crying:

Man! Holla at yer' boy:D. I told dk the same thing! I can get you guys the hook up once it comes to bacon, just ask!

[Jerry Attrix]

The United States was not that nice to just give the island back to Japan. Japan paid the U.S. the sum of $320 million of Japanese taxpayers' money for it.

[proudtobnotpc]

P you realize where I am living? American Bacon:crying:
Jimmys bro

[Muku]

Jimmys bro

When did Jimmy's start selling American bacon?

Must admit I havent been there in a while because it seems to me at least that they are just an over priced junk food market.

[dk]

Never really liked yakisoba anyway. :thumbup:
Me too, man.

[proudtobnotpc]

When did Jimmy's start selling American bacon?

Must admit I havent been there in a while because it seems to me at least that they are just an over priced junk food market.

the one on 58 just past Futema has a large assortment of American products

[Kinrat]

:thumbup: Lock down. Good for SOFA personnel to reflect and realize they are guest here even if they don't want to be here. Maybe just maybe it will make some of them think about correcting obvious mis behaver by their fellow sofa personnel the next time they get out of their cages.:ohmy:
Also good for Locals to feel just what it is going to be like WHEN the U.S. does pull out.:thumbup1:
On both sides O U C H !!! I think they are feeling it. I know the business in Kin sure feel it.:old:

[muss31]

Was this a front page story in the local papers?

[Okihwn]

The United States was not that nice to just give the island back to Japan. Japan paid the U.S. the sum of $320 million of Japanese taxpayers' money for it.

Most of the major utility infrastructure of Okinawa was built and paid for by the U.S. up to 1972. Includes the water (dams and distribution) and electricity (power plants and distribution). Wasn't exactly free money for the U.S.

[LooseCannon]

Never really liked yakisoba anyway. :thumbup:

I'll go along with Yakisoba but I draw the line at Soki Soba!:army:

[LooseCannon]

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You're going to hell for saying that!

Have you ever had it made with american bacon? Makes a world of difference!

:cursing:Shhhhh! you're gonna hurt the economy even more with slip ups like that. Dude, you need to think about hiring a press secretary and have them clarify that what you meant to say was Oki Hamu!

[waddell]

:thumbup: Lock down. Good for SOFA personnel to reflect and realize they are guest here even if they don't want to be here. Maybe just maybe it will make some of them think about correcting obvious mis behaver by their fellow sofa personnel the next time they get out of their cages.:ohmy:
Also good for Locals to feel just what it is going to be like WHEN the U.S. does pull out.:thumbup1:
On both sides O U C H !!! I think they are feeling it. I know the business in Kin sure feel it.:old:

you the okinawans need to think about ways to correct themselfs too, the next time they let there 13 and 14 year olds go out smoking and doing whatever they do.

[P_chan]

you the okinawans need to think about ways to correct themselfs too, the next time they let there 13 and 14 year olds go out smoking and doing whatever they do.

Yes, because stuff like that doesn't happen in the states and everywhere else in the world:rolleyes:

Kids will be kids, you can't control everything that they do. But I don't see how smoking is on a level playing field with raping someone.

[Oki0619]

The United States was not that nice to just give the island back to Japan. Japan paid the U.S. the sum of $320 million of Japanese taxpayers' money for it.

And they got a deal as they stole it from the Okinawans prior to that

[LooseCannon]

Yes, because stuff like that doesn't happen in the states and everywhere else in the world:rolleyes:

Kids will be kids, you can't control everything that they do. But I don't see how smoking is on a level playing field with raping someone.

It's really not kids smoking thats the problem, its parents who don't take interest in their kids and what they're doing. It happens with every generation. Things are too fast paced and parents have left rearing their children to the so called experts a.k.a. teachers.

Unfortunately they haven't a clue what to do. The academics who specialize in theory and thus are not grounded in reality are telling the parents and teachers what is right and what else is also right (note I didn't say wrong because that is a relative term and might cause someone to damage their self esteem). They pass themselves off as the cure when in fact they are the problem!

Solution, rape and kill all the academics!:dead:

[Muku]

Was this a front page story in the local papers?

What story? The one about yakisoba? Or that Jimmy's sells American bacon?


:-| :eek: Sorry carry on......

[P_chan]

It's really not kids smoking thats the problem, its parents who don't take interest in their kids and what they're doing. It happens with every generation. Things are too fast paced and parents have left rearing their children to the so called experts a.k.a. teachers.

Unfortunately they haven't a clue what to do. The academics who specialize in theory and thus are not grounded in reality are telling the parents and teachers what is right and what else is also right (note I didn't say wrong because that is a relative term and might cause someone to damage their self esteem). They pass themselves off as the cure when in fact they are the problem!

Solution, rape and kill all the academics!:dead:

I agree with you, the parents have a lot to do with it. But I don't see where waddell is coming from. He/She says that Okinawans should "reflect as well" since their kids stay out late, loitering and smoking outside family mart. Oh, and other "bad stuff":rolleyes:. I don't see how that is anywhere near as bad as someone getting drunk and falling asleep in someone elses house, or raping someone. Those are the two incidents that set this lock down off, not kids loitering and smoking.

Tell the Okinawans they need to "reflect" would be like the general telling Okinawans they're confined to their homes and work.

[Muku]

Tell the Okinawans they need to "reflect" would be like the general telling Okinawans they're confined to their homes and work.

You mean they aren't? :scared:

Seriously though this line of thinking that has been brought up that the Okinawan's should be doing the same thing to me is naive.

To me it sounds like the person or persons that use this argument are looking for ways to justify the actions of the people involved in the incidents that preceeded this lockdown.

One does not equal the other...and to take that even further the people that use this line of thinking should stop and consider that this is the same type of justification that many in Japan use to "justify" it's actions during WWII, particularly in regards to the Comfort Women issue.

[LooseCannon]

You mean they aren't? :scared:

Seriously though this line of thinking that has been brought up that the Okinawan's should be doing the same thing to me is naive.

To me it sounds like the person or persons that use this argument are looking for ways to justify the actions of the people involved in the incidents that preceeded this lockdown.

One does not equal the other...and to take that even further the people that use this line of thinking should stop and consider that this is the same type of justification that many in Japan use to "justify" it's actions during WWII, particularly in regards to the Comfort Women issue.

Things have to be kept in proper perspective.
American's commit crime in Japan = big problem.

American commits crime on base = no problem.

Japanese commit crime in America = big problem

Japanese commits crime in Japan = no problem.

The solution is simple, keep all the criminals on base. What the locals don't know, won't hurt them and they could care less. Now the whole lock down makes sense to me!:first:

[slickmetal]

Things have to be kept in proper perspective.
American's commit crime in Japan = big problem.

American commits crime on base = no problem.

Japanese commit crime in America = big problem

Japanese commits crime in Japan = no problem.

The solution is simple, keep all the criminals on base. What the locals don't know, won't hurt them and they could care less. Now the whole lock down makes sense to me!:first:

just remember thats not always true when you commit crimes on base its not a big problem to the host country...espeically on bases in Germany and Turkey where the SOFA permits the local authorities to charge you as well...I seen the warning posted on the BX/PX's all over the german bases and posts...especially if you shoplift.

[Muku]

The solution is simple, keep all the criminals on base.

Is this an offer to transfer all the Japanese crimminals to the bases as well? Hell I'd bet the Japanese government would love you for that one.:-| :rolleyes: :D

[Tony Stacks]

just remember thats not always true when you commit crimes on base its not a big problem to the host country...espeically on bases in Germany and Turkey where the SOFA permits the local authorities to charge you as well...I seen the warning posted on the BX/PX's all over the german bases and posts...especially if you shoplift.


But how does something on base effect the host country? It does'nt.

[Hawk1142]

You mean they aren't? :scared:

Seriously though this line of thinking that has been brought up that the Okinawan's should be doing the same thing to me is naive.

To me it sounds like the person or persons that use this argument are looking for ways to justify the actions of the people involved in the incidents that preceeded this lockdown.

One does not equal the other...and to take that even further the people that use this line of thinking should stop and consider that this is the same type of justification that many in Japan use to "justify" it's actions during WWII, particularly in regards to the Comfort Women issue.

I agree, why should locals "reflect" it's their country. Most crimes locals commit are not against Americans anyway.

These crimes and allegations which started this whole lockdown were committed by Americans against Japanese....

[jodilee31]

Is it just me or is anyone else disturbed about young girls! I'm not at all blaming the victims but were they not warned about these guys? In America there is a lot more rapes and molestation of children but kids are also taught about Stranger Danger. No way in Hell would my 13 or 14 yr old daughter be allowed out at 10:30 at night. Parents need to take their heads out of the sand and take control of their kids or at least talk to them about staying out of dangerous situations. Quit being so trusting and naive!

[Karateguy]

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A 13-year-old junior high school girl is the latest rape victim, and Okinawa Prefecture Police have arrested the suspect.The accused, Yoshitaka Oshiro, has confessed, and was arrested on suspicion of rape under provisions of the youth protection measures.

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I was trying to find Okinawa crime statistics the other day online, but I couldn't find anything. I'd be interested to see the total number of sexual assaults committed each year in Okinawa by Okinawans. Any find anything like this on the web?