Lock Down Rumors or Not...

[Takako]

I'm sure most of us have heard from a guy that know another guy that someone got busted. But how true are these rumors? I haven't spoke to anyone that specifically knows someone that has gotten in trouble or has been confronted. Here are the rumors that are floating around the office this morning.

1. A group of Marine wives decided to go out to Chatan for dinner this weekend and were caught by the MP's. Now they have a oneway ticket back home.

2. A group of Navy wives were at Starbucks and the JP's were called. When the JP's arrived, they detained the wives and called the MP's. Oneway ticket home.

Anyone else hear any crazy rumors? Can anyone put a real person to these "actual" events?

[DoctorP]

sorry, DocP has only heard rumors...no solid information to pass.

[Takako]

New Rumor...

JP's were going door to door at the apartments housing Y-Plates near the seawall to see if people were gathering in someones house. Which is apparently against the Order.

[DougP]

New Rumor...

JP's were going door to door at the apartments housing Y-Plates near the seawall to see if people were gathering in someones house. Which is apparently against the Order.

OH NOEZ we are not allowed to hold gatherings... Wow what the heck i going on here?

[atb35]

Dont know about the first or third rumor, but the dependents at Starbucks is true.

[DougP]

Saw this on another forum:D
<but they took it away>

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

Is this kinda like the rumor floating around here last week that Tyrone was set free...?

[TheNoNamedOne]

Saw this on another forum:D

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/936/lowresmo2.jpg

OH NOEZ (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1004&highlight=commanding)...DON'T CALL A COMMANDING OFFICER HITLER!

[silviasichigo]

lol that is a piece of work there hehe........

[Black Orchid]

so if i wanted to go walk on the beach i can get sent home too eh?


hmmmm.......yeedidi...

[Black Orchid]

OH NOEZ (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1004&highlight=commanding)...DON'T CALL A COMMANDING OFFICER HITLER!

umm heil zilmer?


wow thats crazy

[Muku]

New Rumor...

JP's were going door to door at the apartments housing Y-Plates near the seawall to see if people were gathering in someones house. Which is apparently against the Order.

Can anyone confirm that it is JP's that are actually doing this? I mean the order, not having read it so I dont know, is about SOFA status personnel right?

Why would JP's be utilized to enforce the UCMJ?

That would be like asking the MP's to police the Japanese people off base to me.:confused:

[Takako]

Can anyone confirm that it is JP's that are actually doing this? I mean the order, not having read it so I dont know, is about SOFA status personnel right?

Why would JP's be utilized to enforce the UCMJ?

That would be like asking the MP's to police the Japanese people off base to me.:confused:

I thought it was a little fishy myself, but was wondering if anyone had first hand experience. I have yet to meet anyone that knows the person that these incidents happened too.

[Muku]

I thought it was a little fishy myself, but was wondering if anyone had first hand experience. I have yet to meet anyone that knows the person that these incidents happened too.

I think it would help the General to put a screaching stop to these rumours and put out the word and let people know exactly what is happening. Funny thing about rumours, people start to believe that they are facts.

I have seen quite a few posts here over the past couple of days where people were making statements about things that they have "heard" about someone here or someone there.

I'll believe it personally when I see it either on the Japanese television news, in the Japanese newpapers, written up in the Star's and Stripes, or reported on by the Japan Update Newsbot!:eek: :rolleyes: :D j/k!

[TheLastDon]

Hot news!!!!


The sky is falling, run my little locked down children run.... :p:p:p

[DougP]

I think it would help the General to put a screaching stop to these rumours and put out the word and let people know exactly what is happening. Funny thing about rumours, people start to believe that they are facts.

I have seen quite a few posts here over the past couple of days where people were making statements about things that they have "heard" about someone here or someone there.

I'll believe it personally when I see it either on the Japanese television news, in the Japanese newpapers, written up in the Star's and Stripes, or reported on by the Japan Update Newsbot!:eek: :rolleyes: :D j/k!

Kind of like those rumors that Americans are all a bunch of monsterous rapists out to eat children. Lock your doors! Oh noooooooo:D

[EatMoreFish]

All first year Marines coming out of school should not be stationed overseas. Especially in Japan, until they have completed at least one year in the Marine Corps in a state side assignment. Iraq and Afghanistan excluded. Any Marine that has had serious disciplinary action taken against him within the last 24 month, I.E. a Gunny busted to a SSgt, should also be barred from duty within Japan. Just a thought.

[EatMoreFish]

I think it would help the General to put a screaching stop to these rumours and put out the word and let people know exactly what is happening. Funny thing about rumours, people start to believe that they are facts.

I have seen quite a few posts here over the past couple of days where people were making statements about things that they have "heard" about someone here or someone there.

I'll believe it personally when I see it either on the Japanese television news, in the Japanese newpapers, written up in the Star's and Stripes, or reported on by the Japan Update Newsbot!:eek: :rolleyes: :D j/k!

There are also those who find it enjoyable to start stupid rumors just to see if people buy them. Let common sense prevail.

[EatMoreFish]

Is this kinda like the rumor floating around here last week that Tyrone was set free...?


He was. I had dinner with him at Sams by the Sea last night.

As I said. Common sense.

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

I know that, and you claim to know that, but the majority of our recent membership (say since Feb. 11) has no clue.

[Muku]

Kind of like those rumors that Americans are all a bunch of monsterous rapists out to eat children. Lock your doors! Oh noooooooo:D

Damn Doug dragging up ancient history here arent you? I mean that rumour has been floating around this island since before the Battle of Okinawa!:eek:

Somethings never change do they:rolleyes:

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Let common sense prevail.

Sorry I couldnt resist here.............

Would you mind telling me/us when US Military = Common Sense ever prevailed?:w00t:

[ryukyuboi]

I heard Chilli's on KAB was so crowded on one night over this past weekend, and everything was rather chaotic, like getting what was ordered correct, that many customers were compted. I do not go there that often to know, but that place has always seemed like a zoo to me, not just because more people are forced to dine on base.

[Muku]

I heard a rumor some high ranking guy got busted along with a civilian at jusco and his wife and kids were sent back to the states.


Not to debunk your rumour here, but if even 1% of them are true there must be a bunch of 747's lined up at KAB to take these people breaking the lockdown back to the states like taxi's.

[KumaNoPooh]

I heard that there are UFOs of the coast of Okinawa and North Korea is comming to get us.

[Doomrider]

I heard there is an extinct race of boner-fish off the coast of okinawa. It's a shame what a sight it must be!

[TLCoki]

Rumors

1. A group of Marine wives decided to go out to Chatan for dinner this weekend and were caught by the MP's. Now they have a oneway ticket back home.

2. A group of Navy wives were at Starbucks and the JP's were called. When the JP's arrived, they detained the wives and called the MP's. Oneway ticket home.

Rumors I heard were the wives eating at Cocos and some guys got busted at Starbucks in Chatan. Also that they would all be sent back to the states and that their active duty husbands/wives whatever would be court martialed.

[DoctorP]

What's funny is an Okinawan friend of mine repeated these same rumors to me today...still wondering if any of it is true or not.

[Big_Papa]

Don't know about the starbucks, but on Saturday (during the marathon) I was talking to a fellow mason who is the legal chief on a major Marine Corps base. He told me that on last Friday, he had to do the paperwork to send a family home.

Apparently they were eating at Rose Garden (?) on 330. After they family had eaten and were paying for their meal, the owners (not American) called the MPs on them...

Straight from legal. Its one thing for some of us whom are above the law to go out and break it, its another when the locals decide to take it upon themselve to mingle in our business.

I definitely disagree with their poor decision making skills, don't get me wrong. They're idiots!!! I won't tell you that they were O's. But what good did it do that business to turn in their own customers. This is an internal issue, and I for one don't think they should be minding our business. They wouldn't like it if the tables were turned. And I'm sure they are quite often "turned", like when they're on base... Just venting.

[hankypanky]

Don't know about the starbucks, but on Saturday (during the marathon) I was talking to a fellow mason who is the legal chief on a major Marine Corps base. He told me that on last Friday, he had to do the paperwork to send a family home.

Apparently they were eating at Rose Garden (?) on 330. After they family had eaten and were paying for their meal, the owners (not American) called the MPs on them...

Straight from legal. Its one thing for some of us whom are above the law to go out and break it, its another when the locals decide to take it upon themselve to mingle in our business.

I definitely disagree with their poor decision making skills, don't get me wrong. They're idiots!!! I won't tell you that they were O's. But what good did it do that business to turn in their own customers. This is an internal issue, and I for one don't think they should be minding our business. They wouldn't like it if the tables were turned. And I'm sure they are quite often "turned", like when they're on base... Just venting.

well hard to believe the manager of rose garden would turn in a family unless they pissed him/her off. they have a big american clientel and i'm sure they would not want to lose the business. Unless they felt that they would get in trouble for harboring a criminal:D

i thought of posting a sign in front of my joint offering 2 for 1 to all sofa status personel during the lockdown. :-|

[P_chan]

Did you guys here?

I can fly!

[nipponliving]

Ray Payne doesn't own Rose Garden any longer?

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

I like this image better Doug!

http://www.parallel-youniversity.com/images/adolph_-bush%202.jpg

[DougP]

I like this image better Doug!

http://www.parallel-youniversity.com/images/adolph_-bush%202.jpg

Fits in rather well with all of this doesn't it:D

[hankypanky]

Thought that old geezer own half of okinawa?

i'm pretty sure rose garden is owned by the sams chain. ray did own it, but i think his son's have taken it over. each sams/rose garden is run by a different manager, so it could be a pissed off manager.

[Tony Stacks]

i'm pretty sure rose garden is owned by the sams chain. ray did own it, but i think his son's have taken it over. each sams/rose garden is run by a different manager, so it could be a pissed off manager.

It is the same chain.

[Big_Papa]

i thought of posting a sign in front of my joint offering 2 for 1 to all sofa status personel during the lockdown. :-|

you got some serious issues dude. I'll be there! :thumbup:

[Muku]

Straight from legal. Its one thing for some of us whom are above the law to go out and break it, its another when the locals decide to take it upon themselve to mingle in our business.

If this turns out to be true it is so wrong on so many different levels. I think the mp's were wrong as well for responding to the call too. :thumbdown:

I would strongly suggest to anyone in the military that they stop going to the Rose Garden and let them feel the pain of having less customers.



One thing I would add, purely as the devils advocate, they may have been thinking that the Military here has be mingling in the affairs of the Okinawan people for the past 60 plus years that turn about was fair play.:cursing:

[Big_Papa]

I don't possibly see how they can think that. But then again, I've only lived in Oki for a year and half now, so you guys have a bigger view of the landscape.

But when was the last time we got involved with their politics or told them how to do anything. I think the US reserves that for Tokyo, who may push it down the hierarchy.

[Big_Papa]

Well screw' em all anyway,the waitress are cute but the food is undersized and overpriced,Yakiniku goen ichiban desu!

Yakiniku Goen wa doko ni arimasuka?

[okisteve]

That's the Infant meal.

[Big_Papa]

Funny, I always seem to get that meal, no matter where I go

[Big_Papa]

I thought you meant a different place. I've been to all 3 of those. Can't beat the price or the time limit.

The other one is over by me near Courtney.

[scarlett belle]

Not sure how reliable this is...it just a rumor after all. :thumbup: At any rate...apparently someone who lived near the sea wall was locked up in the house "reflecting" out the window...watching Americans skipping down the lane, drinking their chai tea and slurping on soba noodles, like the "lock down" never happened. :D "Someone" else got wind of it and decided to drop by the establishments...Caught red handed...or in chai case...green handed. :crying:

[ryukyuboi]

I heard that the 2 Starbucks people caught violating the illegal order were teachers.

[nipponliving]

Japanese Police stopping Y plates checking to see if they are obeying a military (not Japanese) restriction. Military police (or maybe Black Ops?) raiding off-base businesses for violators and sending them ‘immediately’ on a flight back to the US. I call BS to a lot of these rumors…Hey I have an idea!!!

New rumor…I heard that the military is spreading the rumors through readers forums in order to keep everyone scared enough not to violate the restriction. DK you need to investigate!

Seriously though, people need to obey the order. Ask for a waiver if needed. If you are still very angry and can’t hold on any longer, complain to the higher ups or your congressmen. Or if you’re a local hire and just can’t stand it any longer..hoard as much money you can, get your resume ready, stock up on as many “privileged items” as you can (for those craving on-base “no corn” pizza, ask Pizza hut to give the pizzas frozen and store them in you freezer you purchased from on base), do everything you can on base until you get sick of it…then quit.

Just a thought.

[badstreetusa]

Japanese Police stopping Y plates checking to see if they are obeying a military (not Japanese) restriction. Military police (or maybe Black Ops?) raiding off-base businesses for violators and sending them ‘immediately’ on a flight back to the US. I call BS to a lot of these rumors…Hey I have an idea!!!

New rumor…I heard that the military is spreading the rumors through readers forums in order to keep everyone scared enough not to violate the restriction. DK you need to investigate!

Seriously though, people need to obey the order. Ask for a waiver if needed. If you are still very angry and can’t hold on any longer, complain to the higher ups or your congressmen. Or if you’re a local hire and just can’t stand it any longer..hoard as much money you can, get your resume ready, stock up on as many “privileged items” as you can (for those craving on-base “no corn” pizza, ask Pizza hut to give the pizzas frozen and store them in you freezer you purchased from on base), do everything you can on base until you get sick of it…then quit.

Just a thought.

Good point. Either ride it out, or test the waters and get caught. Better yet if it's burning you that bad, quit (civilian) or again go off-base (military) and get a trip back to the states...

[gunny8511]

I heard a rumor that...

Rumors are just that. I made the mistake of posting a rumor, only to find out that it was just a rumor.

My Lance Corporal network doesn't even have any solid word on this one, and that's rare.

The KVN network is alive with rumors, but nothing concrete. Sounds like rumors are running rampant, while real information is scarce.

[Tony Stacks]

Lance Corporal network doesn't even have any solid word on this one, and that's rare.


That is rare:scared:

[Tony Stacks]

Sounds like rumors are running rampant, while real information is scarce.


This unfourtunatly prevails everywhere in my opinion.:old:

[mr.reasonable]

the rumors are actually instigated by the CID to maintain order and discipline. Keep us all herded inside the fence. If anyone were to recieve a plane ticket home, it would only be those under the rank of lets toss out 05 well maybe 04

[mr.reasonable]

Reward: If military personal are peeping tom through there binoculars reflecting... You will recieve a $250 bonus for every SOFA person you help nab.

[ryukyuboi]

A legal challenge would determine the legality of the military order upon US civilians working in Japan. Follow the order, but grieve it in some form. The outcome of the challenge would settle the issue.

Perhaps the ACLU, Amnesty International, government employee unions or others could file suit in Federal Court on Guam or Honolulu?

Are any of the posters on this thread lawyers?

[Muku]

I heard a rumor somwhere tonight that the sun is going to rise tomorrow morning.........:D

Trying to stay optimistic here folks.:D

[nipponliving]

Or the next day. or the next..sometimes it stays dark for days in Alaska. still smiling..

[KumaNoPooh]

I know the bigger media circus we make for Dick Zilmer the better to get that clown out of here. Any of those aforementioned org. would be great. This has to end . They tried this in Korea with civilians and needless to say the restriction was lifted because the Gen. up said the threat had passed.

There was some sort of case involving nine Army Corps of Engineers filing suit for back wages because the Gen. had them restricted to their Off-base Housing. Currently the case is closed to the public. Really I think he can only ask that civilian employees to repsect and abide by the spirit of the order. here are the links for this. Look for Curfew Issue (Apr 2005-???)


http://kalaniosullivan.com/OsanAB/OsanSongtanHistorya3.html#Curfew

http://www.nffe.org/ht/display/ArticleDetails/i/899/pid/176

[gunny8511]

I heard a rumor that "they" are putting nano-machines into our gasoline that can monitor our movements. When we breathe the vapors into our lungs, "they" can actually track us individually. They can also command detonate the nano-machines if we stray into an off base business.

I'm terrified!

:rolleyes:

[proudtobnotpc]

I heard a rumor that "they" are putting nano-machines into our gasoline that can monitor our movements. When we breathe the vapors into our lungs, "they" can actually track us individually. They can also command detonate the nano-machines if we stray into an off base business.

I'm terrified!

:rolleyes:

dude I know I'm going to get an infraction for this but your a dumb ass. One would think that after 16 years in the suck you would have a little bit more maturity.

[Tony Stacks]

dude I know I'm going to get an infraction for this but your a dumb ass. One would think that after 16 years in the suck you would have a little bit more maturity.


I am ******* speechless LMFAO

[gunny8511]

dude I know I'm going to get an infraction for this but your a dumb ass. One would think that after 16 years in the suck you would have a little bit more maturity.

Maturity is moot when sarcasm is warranted. I'd like to think that you were more astute, but I cannot.

[dk]

I thought it was funny. You guys take things too seriously.

Ask Mad Hatter about my army of nanobots. They are positively something to fear!

[gunny8511]

I am ******* speechless LMFAO

Funny that such simple crap gets you going like that. Does he/she get you rolling on the floor on a regular basis? I think that you need a hobby too. :barf:

[DougP]

dude I know I'm going to get an infraction for this but your a dumb ass. One would think that after 16 years in the suck you would have a little bit more maturity.

And you did. You know the rules. No personal insults or name calling. Gotta enforce them fairly around here.

Nothing to get bent out of shape about. Infractions go away after 10 days. Just try not to rack up too many of them and you'll be alright.:D Try to keep it civil in here folks.:D

[proudtobnotpc]

And you did. You know the rules. No personal insults or name calling. Gotta enforce them fairly around here.

Nothing to get bent out of shape about. Infractions go away after 10 days. Just try not to rack up too many of them and you'll be alright.:D Try to keep it civil in here folks.:D

sorry ya'll but could not help myself:thumbup:

[P_chan]

Come on everybody! Don't forget to add smilies to your sarcastic comments!

:first::ohmy::army::thumbup::thumbdown::-|:old::(:mad::eek:

[dk]

Too much racking of disciprine going on in here.

[Tony Stacks]

Funny that such simpletons get you going like that. Does he/she get you rolling on the floor on a regular basis? I think that you need a hobby too. :barf:


Actually I'm not rolling on the floor at all. I'm sitting in a chair.
I have plenty of hobies and JU Forum is one of them.
I have never rolled on the floor laughing in my whole life.

Are you angry?

[Tony Stacks]

sorry ya'll but could not help myself:thumbup:


I wonder where his infraction is for calling you a simpleton.:argh3:

[gunny8511]

I wonder where his infraction is for calling you a simpleton.:argh3:

Edited it as soon as I posted it. :w00t:

[DougP]

Come on everybody! Don't forget to add smilies to your sarcastic comments!

:first::ohmy::army::thumbup::thumbdown::-|:old::(:mad::eek:

Isn't there a 10 emoticon limit on this forum? Hardly enough to get the whole sarcastic mood across.

wow, its true...

You have included 11 images in your message. You are limited to using 10 images so please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.

guess it counts the ones in the quote box.

[gunny8511]

Actually I'm not rolling on the floor at all. I'm sitting in a chair.
I have plenty of hobies and JU Forum is one of them.
I have never rolled on the floor laughing in my whole life.

Are you angry?

Just responding to your silliness, nothing more. It takes a lot more than this silly garbage to get me angry.

[Tony Stacks]

Funny that such simpletons get you going like that. Does he/she get you rolling on the floor on a regular basis? I think that you need a hobby too. :barf:


Really?
I don't think so.

[Tony Stacks]

Just responding to your silliness, nothing more. It takes a lot more than this silly garbage to get me angry.


ik I like it. It's fun. it's only the internet.

[gunny8511]

Really?
I don't think so.

So....you're not saying anything with this? What a shock.

[Tony Stacks]

So....you're not saying anything with this? What a shock.

Hey what can i say?

[gunny8511]

Hey what can i say?

Well, not much. You can just be sarcastic like me and cause discontent. I admire that a bit. At the same time, your lack of an intelligent response to any issues, punctuated by large bits of nothing, is growing tiring. I think I'll hit the rack.

[Tony Stacks]

Well, not much. You can just be sarcastic like me and cause discontent. I admire that a bit. At the same time, your lack of an intelligent response to any issues, punctuated by large bits of nothing, is growing tiring. I think I'll hit the rack.


Sounds like the best option for you.

[DougP]

I was going to dust off the old cammies and wear 'em to work tomorrow. Figured we're all in this one together so I'd better fall in like everyone else. I spit shined my old boots to a mirror finish. I ate a hearty bowl of suck-it-up-and-drive-on too.:thumbup: I really do want to support the general in sticking it to the locals(financially) where it hurts the most.... gate two street and cocos. Yeah that'll teach 'em. Go get 'em sir I'm right behind you!! :D

Is that convincing enough?

[Muku]

Isn't there a 10 emoticon limit on this forum? Hardly enough to get the whole sarcastic mood across.

wow, its true...



I think we need this smilie here too........

http://images.cafepress.com/image/19281278_125x125.jpg

[dk]

I think we need this smilie here too........

http://images.cafepress.com/image/19281278_125x125.jpg
Actually, I agree.

[wefukmyung]

How ridiculous? Nobody has been sent home.. The military can't move that fast. quit passing on items that you can't confirm.

[Anterrabae]

im not going to lie.

im starting to lose it. The walls of my AIR FORCE base are closing in thanks to a MARINE....im actually looking forward to the ORI

[P_chan]

im not going to lie.

im starting to lose it. The walls of my AIR FORCE base are closing in thanks to a MARINE....im actually looking forward to the ORI

Wow.....it's not that bad! Thought I can't blame you. I can't stand to spend anymore time then I have to on kadena AB aka crazy town.

As far as looking forward to the ORI......**** that.

[Anterrabae]

Wow.....it's not that bad! Thought I can't blame you. I can't stand to spend anymore time then I have to on kadena AB aka crazy town.

As far as looking forward to the ORI......**** that.

i dont understand it either. just sitting in my room/friends rooms/the bx/mainstreet is taking its toll: ive developed this twitch in my right cheek lol.

and i just enjoy the exercise atmosphere at work only because its REALLY hard to do maintenance when in mopp2, so we dont

[Rossi46]

i dont understand it either. just sitting in my room/friends rooms/the bx/mainstreet is taking its toll: ive developed this twitch in my right cheek lol.

and i just enjoy the exercise atmosphere at work only because its REALLY hard to do maintenance when in mopp2, so we dont

Have you ever been deployed before? This is a joke compared to 179 days of lockdown... no bx, no booze, no car, 6 days a week 12hour+ days not too mention sand, hot/cold days/nights...the list can go on forever