Run ins with JP's or Agents

[macker]

I was thinking that anybody who has had a run in with JP's or uncover rats or whatever in regards to lockdown may want to post here.

It appears a few members have been stopped while driving.

[proudtobnotpc]

sorry don't have any Y plates or IDs for that matter but it is interesting to see this all taking place

[amazedone]

I could care less if we ever get off base! It really doesn't affect me, personally, in any way, shape or form.

[P_chan]

I could care less if we ever get off base! It really doesn't affect me, personally, in any way, shape or form.

Yeah but some of us have a life outside of the base. 90% of my free time is spent away from the base (and I'm not talking about going to cocos or gate 2 street), I prefer it that way.

[amazedone]

You can still dive, and do things like that on many bases.

[P_chan]

You can still dive, and do things like that on many bases.

But I don't dive (yet), and I don't want to be on any base. Oh and according to what I've been told, you can only go 400 yards out once your in the water.

[dk]

But I don't dive (yet), and I don't want to be on any base.
But...

YOU RACK A DISCIPRINE!!!

Good night. :)

[Sex Wax]

So....i guess i cant go surfing, cause there are no breaks good that are actually on any bases (IF YOU KNOW TELL ME !!!!). Is surfing condidered a religion? If so maybe we can get away with catching a few waves before we are reported for non-reflecting. sry, i just wanna go have fun.

[Oxmix]

Sorry, surfing is not a religion, but if your religion holds services on a surf board you may be able to attend services. :D

Regards

Ox

[watzitoou]

I could care less if we ever get off base! It really doesn't affect me, personally, in any way, shape or form.


You must have no life!

I spend 99% of my time off base and my money tooo! I only come home to sleep... and I don't go to the popular american spots..

I have to go off base to my daughter's Japanese school today, I wil let you know if I get any run in's. All my friends have informed to be careful, cuz the school is outside gate 2.

[VWBOYAF1]

Tori Station has a beach. I think you are allow to go from base to base to use the facilities, you can even go to Okuma if you make reservations.

[Kye77]

But I don't dive (yet), and I don't want to be on any base. Oh and according to what I've been told, you can only go 400 yards out once your in the water.

400 yards? Is this because of the lockdown or is it just the usual regulations? If it is about the lockdown, it's ridiculous! Either way, it's still ridiculous anyhow. What's the point of diving then. :o

[Muku]

My wife works on base and she heard that there is a rumour running around about a couple of couples that got caught at offbase eating establishments and were "apprehended" for breaking curfew by the undercover agents.

She told me that one of the places people were supposedly caught eating was the CoCo's Curry place near Kadena.

If this is true then they were some dense friggin idiots.:rolleyes:

[Kye77]

My wife works on base and she heard that there is a rumour running around about a couple of couples that got caught at offbase eating establishments and were "apprehended" for breaking curfew by the undercover agents.

She told me that one of the places people were supposedly caught eating was the CoCo's Curry place near Kadena.

If this is true then they were some dense friggin idiots.:rolleyes:

Argh, Coco's Curry!! Why is forbidden fruit always more tempting! <3

Actually, I'd probably be alright if I go out since I can pass off for a local but I'd let the cat out of the bag once I open my mouth... :(

See my credits Muku! :first:

[watzitoou]

My wife works on base and she heard that there is a rumour running around about a couple of couples that got caught at offbase eating establishments and were "apprehended" for breaking curfew by the undercover agents.

She told me that one of the places people were supposedly caught eating was the CoCo's Curry place near Kadena.

If this is true then they were some dense friggin idiots.:rolleyes:

I heard lot of stuff has been happening since lockdown, "Y" plates spotted at Starbucks, Coco's, Mcdonald's, and other places. My friend works with JP and military. Thats why he told me to be careful when going to a japanese school today.

[okisteve]

But I don't dive (yet), and I don't want to be on any base. Oh and according to what I've been told, you can only go 400 yards out once your in the water.

What - are they afraid you'll defect to North Korea?

[Muku]

Argh, Coco's Curry!! Why is forbidden fruit always more tempting! <3

Actually, I'd probably be alright if I go out since I can pass off for a local but I'd let the cat out of the bag once I open my mouth... :(

See my credits Muku! :first:

But if the penalty is getting deported, sorry deported is the wrong word here because that is something the Japanese government would be involved with. Correction loosing command sponsorship, and SOFA, are the risks worth it?

Good LUCK on the casino it can become habit forming :-|:thumbup:

[badstreetusa]

I heard lot of stuff has been happening since lockdown, "Y" plates spotted at Starbucks, Coco's, Mcdonald's, and other places. My friend works with JP and military. Thats why he told me to be careful when going to a japanese school today.

Your daughter's school is considered a place of education which is an approved place to be at. You have every right to go.

[Kye77]

But if the penalty is getting deported, sorry deported is the wrong word here because that is something the Japanese government would be involved with. Correction loosing command sponsorship, and SOFA, are the risks worth it?

Good LUCK on the casino it can become habit forming :-|:thumbup:

You got that right! Just have to cook then :(

Forming? It's already one!! :thumbup1:

[Muku]

Forming? It's already one!! :thumbup1:

Wait until you want to sue dk for injuries incurred because of excessive clicking of the mouse.:D

Can you imagine the time it takes to make a 100,000,000 bet? And then LOOSE.:-| \:-)

[watzitoou]

Your daughter's school is considered a place of education which is an approved place to be at. You have every right to go.

I know that, but its a Japanese school and very few American's or military dependents go there. He was more afraid of other Military family's not showing up, like it might cause problems or something. Also, if the parking lot is full and I have to park somewhere else that can spark problems.

[shuichi]

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I am afraid that you all may be in for quite a long ride. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it was almost a year when this happened in 1995. 2001 they shut Kadena for about what 2-3 months after 911.

[Kye77]

Wait until you want to sue dk for injwuries incurred because of excessive clicking of the mouse.:D

Can you imagine the time it takes to make a 100,000,000 bet? And then LOOSE.:-| \:-)

LOL Muku! Which game is your fav? I like roulette...:thumbup:alil slow but not too bad... The slots are so slow, I get rather annoyed. :mad: *nudge nudge dk* :rolleyes:

One of those silly thoughts just popped into my head... Dependents can get deported deliberately to save on air fare.. Estranged wives can take the opportunity to go home!

[Kye77]

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I am afraid that you all may be in for quite a long ride. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it was almost a year when this happened in 1995. 2001 they shut Kadena for about what 2-3 months after 911.

That sounds about right. Though I dread the fact that I don't get to be greedy off-base, I don't expect a short term "reflection". It may then seem like an action taken for the sake of appearances only & there might be even more ruckus about it. :crying: *has withdrawal symptoms from being unable to eat yakiniku*

[badstreetusa]

I know that, but its a Japanese school and very few American's or military dependents go there. He was more afraid of other Military family's not showing up, like it might cause problems or something. Also, if the parking lot is full and I have to park somewhere else that can spark problems.

If I can ask, is the school you're referencing a Catholic school?

[badstreetusa]

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I am afraid that you all may be in for quite a long ride. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it was almost a year when this happened in 1995. 2001 they shut Kadena for about what 2-3 months after 911.

In 1995 it wasn't a complete lockdown like now for one year. They instituted a new curfew policy of midnight for all SOFA...the trick back then to get around it was stay out Gate 2 until you wanted, then get a taxi and tell the gate guard you were coming from another base...not that it ever happened...

[P_chan]

400 yards? Is this because of the lockdown or is it just the usual regulations? If it is about the lockdown, it's ridiculous! Either way, it's still ridiculous anyhow. What's the point of diving then. :o

This is what I heard from the guys at torii's dive shop yesterday once I was there.

[LooseCannon]

In 1995 it wasn't a complete lockdown like now for one year. They instituted a new curfew policy of midnight for all SOFA...the trick back then to get around it was stay out Gate 2 until you wanted, then get a taxi and tell the gate guard you were coming from another base...not that it ever happened...

the other way around the 1995 thing was to get locked in at midnight in your favorite watering hole and not go back until the next morning after curfew lifted, you sobered up, got your nut or all of the above. My preference was the latter.:thumbup1:

[Tanimaga]

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I am afraid that you all may be in for quite a long ride. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it was almost a year when this happened in 1995. 2001 they shut Kadena for about what 2-3 months after 911.


If memory serves, in 1995 it was no more than a month or so. 11pm was the curfew. I got off work at 10:30pm, and had trouble getting out gate 3 on occasion.

After 911, for a couple days, they made us stay home, and not go to work, but I don't recall not being able to leave the house.

I wouldn't be suprised if this was a practice run for future changes though.

[macker]

Anybody hear of confirmed cases of people being busted?

[badstreetusa]

Anybody hear of confirmed cases of people being busted?

Just give it some time...probably by Monday when we all filter back to work, there will be numerous cases. There is no doubt many will/haved try it...I'm just interested to see what the punishment will be. My advice to all; stay in and don't risk it.

[TheLastDon]

I got busted....

Man this Okinawa jail is real nice:D

[okisteve]

If I have time today I am going back to count all the posts where people have bitched about "protests", "passive resistance", "authority-hating commie bastards", and the like.

Anyone who did this and left their base needs to put a "HYPOCRITE" decal on their pissant Skyline.

[TheLastDon]

Anyone who did this and left their base needs to put a "HYPOCRITE" decal on their pissant Skyline.

Hey don't make fun of my paint job. :D:D:D:D:D

[watzitoou]

If I can ask, is the school you're referencing a Catholic school?

yeppers!! I got there early and already packed.

[Carl]

Well, I haven't heard of anyone getting busted, but I went to eat at the Coco's outside the commissary gate Thursday night and the manager there (Yokoyama-san) told me that the police (he didn't specify JP or MP) were at San-a checking for Y plates. He also said "It's going to be hard until the 25th" when my wife asked him how business was doing. I don't know who told him that, but he seemed to be under the impression that was when the curfew will be lifted.

I went to eat at Wendy's last night (yeah, I didn't eat healthy this week) and there was one older American in there. Looked like air force. He just sat there, eating slowly, but didn't say anything to me. There were also some school girls there (I was there around 8:45pm) which I found surprising.

Gate 2 was pretty empty, but there was a news crew out. I saw them talk to a few people on the street and then they started talking to some shop owners. I'm assuming they were making a story on how businesses are going to take a hit since they had the camera on the tip jar.

[P_chan]

There were also some school girls there (I was there around 8:45pm) which I found surprising.

Just curious, but why do you find this surprising? Lots of school kids have after school study and sports, some even have both. They might not finish with that until late, and then hang out with friends before going home. Hell, I've seen school girls out later then 8:45pm before! Maybe they stopped for a bite to eat after kumon (can't remember the name of the other one for older kids).

[Carl]

I meant, I thought it was surprising given the recent events. You would think that the parents and teachers of these girls would say "Hey, don't go out there too late". And yes, these were the girls with their skirts rolled up way too short. If I had a daughter, I wouldn't let her anywhere near the base regardless of if a curfew was in effect.

[hankypanky]

last night i heard they arrested 2 guys friday morning eating breakfast out in town, plus another was at lawsons, jp came up to him and asked what he was doing, buying a drink was his reply, jp called mp's who then took him away. they are pretty serious about this. be careful!

[DoctorP]

No offense Hank...but this is for everyone. Maybe if you just "heard" it, you (including me) shouldn't post it on the forum...too many rumors being started. Now if you have 1st hand knowledge, then go for it. Just my 3.5 yen.

[hankypanky]

it was from an mp

and the resturant was rose garden

[DoctorP]

That's cool Hank, didn't mean to accuse anyone, but there is a lot of crap floating around with no real hard proof.

[hankypanky]

i'll post again in this thread when i call the jp's when i see a y plate parked somewhere. just to stir up some crap!

[Magilla]

You must have no life!

I spend 99% of my time off base and my money tooo! I only come home to sleep... and I don't go to the popular american spots..

I have to go off base to my daughter's Japanese school today, I wil let you know if I get any run in's. All my friends have informed to be careful, cuz the school is outside gate 2.
I dropped my son off at a school function today at Plaza House shopping center. Did not encounter any problems. But, some people were looking at me like I had a horn growing out of my head. How embarrassing to be treated like this! I feel like a little kid who has been scolded by his Father in front of his friends.

My neighbors all laugh at it.

I don't want to start a large conversation about SSgt Hadnott, but let's try to remember a few things:

1. None of us were there and do not know what transpired between the two of them. I KNOW she's only 14, but remember she jumped on the back of the bike.

2. He has admitted to "kissing her", but the Assistant Naha Prosecutor has already stated "they did not have sex."

3. The fact that they are holding him for so long without filing charges speaks volumes. How long does it take to get DNA back? I suspect they are trying to wear him down in order to "confess" to something. It would look very silly if they didn't create a case out of this one.

4. Lastly - I would question this young ladies character and judgment. I don't think she was saying the Rosary when the SSgt picked her up.

Please save the "you would feel different if you had kids comments - I have four, and none of them would be jumping on the backs of Motorcycles with strangers.

[thinkb4uspeak]

I dropped my son off at a school function today at Plaza House shopping center. Did not encounter any problems. But, some people were looking at me like I had a horn growing out of my head. How embarrassing to be treated like this! I feel like a little kid who has been scolded by his Father in front of his friends.

My neighbors all laugh at it.

I don't want to start a large conversation about SSgt Hadnott, but let's try to remember a few things:

1. None of us were there and do not know what transpired between the two of them. I KNOW she's only 14, but remember she jumped on the back of the bike.

2. He has admitted to "kissing her", but the Assistant Naha Prosecutor has already stated "they did not have sex."

3. The fact that they are holding him for so long without filing charges speaks volumes. How long does it take to get DNA back? I suspect they are trying to wear him down in order to "confess" to something. It would look very silly if they didn't create a case out of this one.

4. Lastly - I would question this young ladies character and judgment. I don't think she was saying the Rosary when the SSgt picked her up.

Please save the "you would feel different if you had kids comments - I have four, and none of them would be jumping on the backs of Motorcycles with strangers.


you made alot of sense I agree with what you are saying. But regardless if she wasn't saying her rosaries I would question her judgement not her character she's still to young.

[Muku]

3. The fact that they are holding him for so long without filing charges speaks volumes. How long does it take to get DNA back? I suspect they are trying to wear him down in order to "confess" to something. It would look very silly if they didn't create a case out of this one.

4. Lastly - I would question this young ladies character and judgment. I don't think she was saying the Rosary when the SSgt picked her up.


No it doesnt speak volumes about anything, it is a typical Japanese interrogation manner, nothing unusual about holding him this long. The courts here convict people actually charged with crimes at a very high rate, because the Japanese police work hard at getting confessions from their suspects.

I never knew a 14 year girl was considered a lady.:rolleyes: At what age did she stop being a kid and be held accountable for getting molested?

[dk]

She was molested?

The only thing he has admitted so far is holding her down and kissing her, I thought. Or did I miss something. It's assault, but it's not rape nor molestation. I may have missed some facts though. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Muku]

She was molested?

Well the rape is still alledged however the kissing part to my knowledge would consititute molestation. What do you think? Is that too harsh? How about assaulted instead.

Even in Japanese it is 痴漢, ちかん, chikan, molester; pervert, like the kiss grabbing up the girls on the trains etc etc

[dk]

Well the rape is still alledged however the kissing part to my knowledge would consititute molestation. What do you think? Is that too harsh? How about assaulted instead.
Yeah, I updated my post. :)

[Carl]

from google (define: molest):

molest - harass or assault sexually; make indecent advances to
The act of making unwanted and indecent advances to someone, especially for sexual gratification.

If she wasn't raped, then she was definitely molested.

[Muku]

I think however that the question was raised because correct me if I am wrong, I think I am the first person here to actually use that word to describe this guy and what at the minimum he did.

Could be wrong though with all the posts here about this case.

Edited to add here.....

At the minimum the cops have him for that, 痴漢行為, 【ちかんこうい, groping; molestation, he could face 6 months to 10 years in prison.

[dk]

Hmm, interesting. I always had the idea that molestation had more to do with touching.

You might be right. I might just need to broaden my own definition a little.

[Magilla]

No it doesnt speak volumes about anything, it is a typical Japanese interrogation manner, nothing unusual about holding him this long. The courts here convict people actually charged with crimes at a very high rate, because the Japanese police work hard at getting confessions from their suspects.

I never knew a 14 year girl was considered a lady.:rolleyes: At what age did she stop being a kid and be held accountable for getting molested?

- My point about the length of the interrogation is that if it were a cut and dry case we would have already known.

- "Japanese Police work very hard." They struggle to leave their Kobans (unless an American is involved).

- The high conviction rate is due to the interrogation process.

Last Point - If this was an Okinawan (instead of the SSgt) it would have never gone further that the initial police report. Which more than likely would have been immediately dismissed.

Take in point the latest "rape case." Phillipino "entertainer." Eleven hours spent in a Hotel. "Raped." Sure - only because it was an American!

[Carl]

My bro in-law is a JP for Uruma City and he says that most of them take their jobs very seriously. There are a few bad apples of course, but you find those everywhere. You've just made a broad assumption about JPs the same way the Japanese made a broad assumption of the US military.

[Muku]

- My point about the length of the interrogation is that if it were a cut and dry case we would have already known.

- "Japanese Police work very hard." They struggle to leave their Kobans (unless an American is involved).

- The high conviction rate is due to the interrogation process.

Last Point - If this was an Okinawan (instead of the SSgt) it would have never gone further that the initial police report. Which more than likely would have been immediately dismissed.
Take in point the latest "rape case." Phillipino "entertainer." Eleven hours spent in a Hotel. "Raped." Sure - only because it was an American!
Let me ask you something here before I comment further...do you read, write and speak Japanese?

Oh and it matters a lot too.:D

One other question for you here too. Are you just repeating something you heard somewhere else or is there some information or facts that you have that can support your allegations here.

[Muku]

Hmm, interesting. I always had the idea that molestation had more to do with touching.

You might be right. I might just need to broaden my own definition a little.

Here is a link to the Japanese Penal Code (http://www.cas.go.jp/jp/seisaku/hourei/data/PC.pdf)translated into English.

Look at article 176.

[gunny8511]

last night i heard they arrested 2 guys friday morning eating breakfast out in town, plus another was at lawsons, jp came up to him and asked what he was doing, buying a drink was his reply, jp called mp's who then took him away. they are pretty serious about this. be careful!

Arrested for being off base? Wow. The jackbooted gestapo must be out in force! I haven't heard of any "arrests" for being out in town. The guidance from my command is that military personnel would receive an MOR, and could be NJP'd for it. Arrested? Only if they're confronted by JPs perhaps.

This claim holds about as much water as the officer that told me Tyrone had been released...pffft. :rolleyes:

[dk]

Here is a link to the Japanese Penal Code (http://www.cas.go.jp/jp/seisaku/hourei/data/PC.pdf)translated into English.

Look at article 176.
A person who, through assault or intimidation, forcibly commits an indecent act upon a male or female of not less than thirteen years of age shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not less than 6 months but not more than 10 years. The same shall apply to a person who commits an indecent act upon a male or female under thirteen years of age.

Wow, why didn't they just merge the law to the following:
A person who, through assault or intimidation, forcibly commits an indecent act upon a male or female shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not less than 6 months but not more than 10 years.

[dk]

This claim holds about as much water as the officer that told me Tyrone had been released...pffft. :rolleyes:
Or the article that told me that Tyrone confessed... :scared:

[Muku]

Wow, why didn't they just merge the law to the following:

dk I might suggest taking a look at the Japanese original.

I would also venture a guess to say that the Japanese original, havent seen it myself btw, might be written a bit differently.

[Magilla]

Let me ask you something here before I comment further...do you read, write and speak Japanese?

- No, but if I did I sure wouldn't read the far left Times or Shinpo. When was the last time you read (I assume you do) a "good" article about any of the following in those rags?:

1. American military visiting retirement homes
2. " " teaching english at local schools
3. " " cleaning retirement homes
4. " " military delivering toys to orphanages
5. The countles other "good" things we all do here

- Almost never.

- For Christ's sake look at the big deal they are making about the Cpl's DUI. Agreed, it was totally stupid and bad timing, but are we not supposed to be human? We are not measured with the same stick! Don't trust me? - park your Y-plate in a no parking zone and see how long it stays there. Park a Hiragana plate illegally (in the middle of 58) and nobody seems to notice.

Oh and it matters a lot too.:D

One other question for you here too. Are you just repeating something you heard somewhere else or is there some information or facts that you have that can support your allegations here.

- If this is in reference to the "entertainer" my "allegations" were extracted from a news agency and JU.

- Understand that I love Okinawa and Okinawans very much. Just like Americans the majority of them are great. What I don't like is how the good ones sit back and watch us get raked over the coals by the vocal minority.

[OkiSF]

i thought i wouldthrow my 2 cents worth in since i'm stuck home.

1)what was this girl wearing when he picked her up? Everyone assumes she was in a school outfit. If she was then thats a dead give away that she is too young. if she wasn't then the could have played a part if one is to believe he didn't know her age. And before you say he should have asked for ID unless you are familiar with how the Japanese caculate there years then you will not be able to tell a persons age. They don't use 19XX like westerners.

2) I find it hard to believe all that is written in the JU as many times i have had first hand knowledge of things printed and have to laugh at what was actually reported. Remember, his statements are translated into japanese and then re trnslated back into english in the JU. What american do you know speaks the way the have him qouted as saying.

3) Whatever the evidence says in the end, he should get only what the law says he deserves.

[dk]

What american do you know speaks the way the have him qouted as saying.
My reaction to the story as well.

Well, my reaction to the story where locals interviewed people on gate 2 street. The quotes didn't seem real at all. They were obviously translated and then translated back.

[Muku]

i thought i wouldthrow my 2 cents worth in since i'm stuck home.

1)what was this girl wearing when he picked her up? Everyone assumes she was in a school outfit. If she was then thats a dead give away that she is too young. if she wasn't then the could have played a part if one is to believe he didn't know her age. And before you say he should have asked for ID unless you are familiar with how the Japanese caculate there years then you will not be able to tell a persons age. They don't use 19XX like westerners.


First off it is known that she was not in her school uniform, so that takes that away.


Um kids her age understand seireki...

[watzitoou]

i thought i wouldthrow my 2 cents worth in since i'm stuck home.

1)what was this girl wearing when he picked her up? Everyone assumes she was in a school outfit. If she was then thats a dead give away that she is too young. if she wasn't then the could have played a part if one is to believe he didn't know her age. And before you say he should have asked for ID unless you are familiar with how the Japanese caculate there years then you will not be able to tell a persons age. They don't use 19XX like westerners.

Somewhere reading in the news it said, he liked her cuz she was wearing baggy pants, he assumed she was older.

[Muku]

- If this is in reference to the "entertainer" my "allegations" were extracted from a news agency and JU.

- Understand that I love Okinawa and Okinawans very much. Just like Americans the majority of them are great.

Answer this please.....

Let me ask you something here before I comment further...do you read, write and speak Japanese?

Oh and it matters a lot too.

First off you have the quotes wrong I didnt write all that you have quoted there in your post you may want to go back and check that...thank you.


What I don't like is how the good ones sit back and watch us get raked over the coals by the vocal minority
It's just the same as the vocal American's that are bitching about the Japanese and Okinawan's as well.

I dont like having to sit here and listen to people that have no real idea about what the culture and people here are about bitching and complaining about things they have taken time to educate themselves about.

[dk]

Somewhere reading in the news it said, he liked her cuz she was wearing baggy pants, he assumed she was older.
Yeah, and it's actually pretty difficult to judge age out here. One of my ex-coworkers looks to be in her teens... But she's not. With some girls, you just cannot tell. Not giving excuses for the guy, just sayin'.

[Steganos]

Your daughter's school is considered a place of education which is an approved place to be at. You have every right to go.
Thanks for the info, I would have never guess that a school could be a place of education.

[badstreetusa]

Thanks smarta$$.

[P_chan]

Thanks for the info, I would have never guess that a school could be a place of education.

We seem to have another form troll!:thumbdown:

[Covert_Hippie]

I stood right next to a Motorcycle JP this morning and watched the Marathon; He didn't mind me being there. One of the photographers covering the race managed a picture of me though; I hope he wanks off to it later.

[hankypanky]

I stood right next to a Motorcycle JP this morning and watched the Marathon; He didn't mind me being there. One of the photographers covering the race managed a picture of me though; I hope he wanks off to it later.

i believe they said the marathon was a pre - existing event and it was ok to support it. don't know if a spectator is ok though:D

[hamsterhuey]

I had to drive a buddy to the airport so he could leave for Iraq. I drove from Uruma (where my house is) to Foster, on to Kishaba, and then out the gate. All the way down to Naha (staying 80 on the expressway) to the airport. Ate lunch at the airport. Talked to him for about an hour. Drove back. Got stuck for 30 minutes at exit 5 because of the marathon. And back home.

And nothing. Not an odd look. No Rodney King-type beatings. Nary an odd look. I personally think that, for the vast majority of Okinawans, it's biz as usual. For the "get them out of here" minority...it's business as usual. Most don't mind us. A few hate us. In a year...it will probably be the same.

[Ammoyankee]

So, my wife goes down to the San-A shopping center today to pay and pickup her airline tickets. When she came out of the store, there was an old man standing between the two cars next to her watching our van.

When she made eye contact with him, he quickly turned away as I believe he wasn't expecting to see my local wife.

She got in the van and noticed the K-car next to us had an old lady sitting in it with a pen and paper in hand. She was wearing a big "obasan" hat and also had her head turned away so the wife couldn't see her face.

Beware, they are watching... Wife says they probably have nothing better to do with their time or are being paid to sit/watch and report Y-numbers.

I told her she should have gotten out, walked around to their plates and made a point of writing the number down and if they asked why tell them... "When this is over, my gaijin husband who has been here 14 years and never caused any trouble will hunt you down and punch you in the face and kick your wife square in the box"!

[macker]

my gaijin husband who has been here 14 years and never caused any trouble will hunt you down and punch you in the face and kick your wife square in the box"!

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Nice one!!!!! "D

[dk]

Too funny. :D

[N3philum]

Went to San A to buy some FOOD........we are permitted to eat right?
or are we supposed to be fasting?
anyway i know most of the Reji girls and the managers there but for some reason people were looking at me like my name was tyrone haddnot:-|
So I took that as a sign to hurry up ,buy my items and scurry home before the JPs surrounded the store and got the helicopter in the sky!



if your sofa.. and dont have "special permission" you cannot go out to San A. You have facilities on base to use. Just follow the rules and let this blow over.. the more problems we cause the longer its going to last.

YOU RACK A DISCIPRINE!!!

[Bones]

I've been running around all over the place. The wife was with me, and while we were asked what I was doing off base, I just showed them my Japanese Green Card, and nothing else was said. Of course, the wife being there probably had a lot to do with it as well.

NBTP

[proudtobnotpc]

was at a Japanese only club last night and actually they were giving us drinks all night long

[Tony Stacks]

I've been out a lot and saw a lot of JPs and was not stopped. I have my gajin card so I'm good but nothing. No questions asked.

[billhilly]

This weekend, my better half and I did a Johnny Cash (I've been everywhere man), and no probs with anyone. Even Naha, 1 a.m., at a dance club. Now, getting ready to eat take out gyudon with a cold beer. Thinking about going out again later. Maybe gate 2.

[hankypanky]

This weekend, my better half and I did a Johnny Cash (I've been everywhere man), and no probs with anyone. Even Naha, 1 a.m., at a dance club. Now, getting ready to eat take out gyudon with a cold beer. Thinking about going out again later. Maybe gate 2.

if you get popped i'm gonna laugh my ass off:thumbup1:

[Crazysix]

I will by a ticket for that cruxifiction

[billhilly]

Oh, sorry I didn't mention....not SOFA. But still, it should be fun.

[macker]

NBTP.. Who asked u what u were doing off base?

[billhilly]

Getting ready to head out to town. Still expect no problems from anyone. H&R..you are closed tonight, right? Maybe later, we can throw back a few and LOAO together. Crazy six, although my id and ego often disagree on the subject, I appreciate the reference to my self-proclaimed dietyhood. Tickets start at $25 and the first drink is free. I, again, send thanks to you both for your concern about my wellbeing and safety. My izakaya just called. I'll let you know how it went.

[Crazysix]

Crazy six, although my id and ego often disagree on the subject, I appreciate the reference to my self-proclaimed dietyhood.
LMAO be safe bro

[hankypanky]

Getting ready to head out to town. Still expect no problems from anyone. H&R..you are closed tonight, right? Maybe later, we can throw back a few and LOAO together. Crazy six, although my id and ego often disagree on the subject, I appreciate the reference to my self-proclaimed dietyhood. Tickets start at $25 and the first drink is free. I, again, send thanks to you both for your concern about my wellbeing and safety. My izakaya just called. I'll let you know how it went.

sorry dude, sunday is a dud, closed. come on down when ya got a pocket full of change, yen that is:D

[DoctorP]

was at a Japanese only club last night and actually they were giving us drinks all night long

Maybe they were trying to get you drunk, in hopes that you would do something stupid and make the news.

[hankypanky]

Maybe they were trying to get you drunk, in hopes that you would do something stupid and make the news.

could be, but i guess that they were just fun loving people showing some okinawan courtesy! It still happens.:)

[slickmetal]

so what ever happened to the renegades mentioned earlier...were they really deported/disbanned or what?

[hankypanky]

so what ever happened to the renegades mentioned earlier...were they really deported/disbanned or what?

unless someone can quote a blotter report, just take it as scuttlebutt

[dsbmississippi]

So, my wife goes down to the San-A shopping center today to pay and pickup her airline tickets. When she came out of the store, there was an old man standing between the two cars next to her watching our van.

When she made eye contact with him, he quickly turned away as I believe he wasn't expecting to see my local wife.

She got in the van and noticed the K-car next to us had an old lady sitting in it with a pen and paper in hand. She was wearing a big "obasan" hat and also had her head turned away so the wife couldn't see her face.

Beware, they are watching... Wife says they probably have nothing better to do with their time or are being paid to sit/watch and report Y-numbers.

I told her she should have gotten out, walked around to their plates and made a point of writing the number down and if they asked why tell them... "When this is over, my gaijin husband who has been here 14 years and never caused any trouble will hunt you down and punch you in the face and kick your wife square in the box"!

HAHAHAHAHA... I love this story...thats a good one :)

[Hitomi]

But I don't dive (yet), and I don't want to be on any base. Oh and according to what I've been told, you can only go 400 yards out once your in the water.



What do they have base patrol in the ocean now like baywatch??

[P_chan]

What do they have base patrol in the ocean now like baywatch??

Torii station has a beach you know? White beach and okuma, they too have beaches.

[nipponliving]

I've been running around all over the place. The wife was with me, and while we were asked what I was doing off base, I just showed them my Japanese Green Card, and nothing else was said. Of course, the wife being there probably had a lot to do with it as well.

NBTP

Who asked for your green card?

[P_chan]

sorry, messed up the video the first time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TiMtDhiJ2o

[nipponliving]

I pay me own rent and pretty much live off and support the local economy,also this was about 10pm when the commissary was closed,furthermore it is highly illogical to drive X amount of kilometers to get some food which by the way are limited,and many of that crap i don't particularly care to eat ,as opposed to the SUPA which is a hop skip and a jump away!
Do I need special permission to put food in my stomach if it is in reach?
And what if i wake up late at night and there is no food in my fridge to eat are they going to open the commissary so I can go get a late night snack?
This is beyond stupid:thumbdown:
I can understand clubs and places of entertainment being off limits but how do you justify making it a "violation" for going to get something to eat?
Do they expect people to starve to death?

I don’t agree with everything that’s going on either. I certainly don’t think all these restrictions should apply to ‘local hires’ under SOFA. If they want to pay for my housing & utilities then maybe I’ll feel more obligated to comply. My life is Okinawa. It has been for many years. I have to get permission to visit my in-laws (although I can conveniently use the restriction not to:thumbup:).

I had to give up my residence permit to get the job I have on base. I HAD to take SOFA in order to take that job. After living for years on Okinawa without an ID/SOFA I knew once I became SOFA status I had to follow new rules. I had no idea they'd restrict my movement this much. If this keeps up I will need to rethink things. As my children get older and get out of school the job security is not worth loosing my freedom.

BTW Japanese news just said that an American broke the Lockdown, jumped the base fence and robbed a business. God I hope that’s not true.

Lastly, this is what they put out for the Marine Corps.

Commanders,

Over the past 24-48 hours there has been a significant increase in the number of rumors regarding the "Period of Reflection" and alleged disciplinary actions. My initial reaction was to disregard the "rumor mill," however, it has reached a level that merits some clarification for our Marines, Sailors and their dependants. PLEASE PASS THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION THROUGH YOUR FAMILY READINESS COMMUNICATION LINKS TO KEEP OUR SERVICE MEMBERS AND FAMILIES INFORMED.

Here is what we know:

- To date, no dependants or civilians (on the USMC side) have faced any administrative sanctions for alleged violations of LtGen Zilmer's policy. Sorry to dispel the myth(s), but no one has been sent back to the US on 48 hours notice for a policy violation.

- The current policy of limited movement pertains to all SOFA status personnel and will remain in effect until further notice. A review of the current policy is scheduled for 3 March.

- Selected leaders from the Air Force, Army, Navy and Marine Corps met again yesterday (Tuesday, 26 Feb) to discuss the current policy and prepare additional information for the 3 March review...no decisions were made at this meeting.

- Exceptions to the current policy can be authorized by 0-6 (Colonel) commanders. For our separate battalions (CAB, Recon) with LtCol commanders, their "exception" approvals reside with the Commanding General of the Division. To date, numerous exceptions have been granted in order to accommodate specific events and other obligations in the local community.

- The current system for granting exceptions is working well within the Division.

- There is no restriction to regularly scheduled activities and facilities aboard any U.S. base or installation.

- RUMORS do not help the current situation...PLEASE PASS ONLY VERIFIED INFORMATION.

- The leadership of 3d Marine Division is actively engaged with Marine Corps Base and will continue to pass additional information as it is received.

- BOTTOM LINE: Although no one has yet faced an administrative hearing as a result of policy violations, administrative sanctions, (to include early return of dependents and/or debarment), are lawful remedies if it comes to the Base Inspector's attention that a civilian/dependent has willfully violated Gen Zilmer's directive.

Here is what we DON'T know:

- When the current policy will be rescinded.

- What a new policy may or may not include regarding movement and activities of SOFA personnel off base.

[Rashae]

I could care less if we ever get off base! It really doesn't affect me, personally, in any way, shape or form.

That's honestly so sad. You're in a beautiful foreign place with so much to see and learn but you choose to stay on base with a closed mind. :thumbdown: