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DougP
02-20-2008, 01:20 PM
JU should do an article on how the US military is restricting Okinawans who are married to SOFA status personnel. Okinawan spouses who are SOFA sponsored are barred from shopping off base, visiting their family out in town etc... Its been made clear that they are not exempt and that alone seems pretty ludicrous so why not run a story on it?:first:
hankypanky
02-20-2008, 01:22 PM
JU should do an article on how the US military is restricting Okinawans who are married to SOFA status personnel. Okinawan spouses who are SOFA sponsored are barred from shopping off base, visiting their family out in town etc... Its been made clear that they are not exempt and that alone seems pretty ludicrous so why not run a story on it?:first:
better yet, get stars and stripes to do it. that would cause even more uproar. :thumbup1:
DoctorP
02-20-2008, 01:23 PM
It would be better if S&S did the story...why not email them and ask them to do it?
Asshat
02-20-2008, 01:23 PM
JU should do an article on how the US military is restricting Okinawans who are married to SOFA status personnel. Okinawan spouses who are SOFA sponsored are barred from shopping off base, visiting their family out in town etc... Its been made clear that they are not exempt and that alone seems pretty ludicrous so why not run a story on it?:first:
I don't know if it is the same now, but when I was married to an Okinawan, she was looked upon as less of a woman, (almost a whore) because she was married to a foreigner. Has the perception changed? If not, I doubt anyone would be interested.
Tony Stacks
02-20-2008, 01:24 PM
JU should do an article on how the US military is restricting Okinawans who are married to SOFA status personnel. Okinawan spouses who are SOFA sponsored are barred from shopping off base, visiting their family out in town etc... Its been made clear that they are not exempt and that alone seems pretty ludicrous so why not run a story on it?:first:
They cannot enforce it. What are they going to do. They are Japanese citizens 1st. What can they do NJP a Japanese spouse?
DougP
02-20-2008, 01:29 PM
I don't know if it is the same now, but when I was married to an Okinawan, she was looked upon as less of a woman, (almost a whore) because she was married to a foreigner. Has the perception changed? If not, I doubt anyone would be interested.
The perception has changed a bit. In fact depending who you're married(ie what kind of job the SOFA person has) to you might just be called "cerebu"
My wife gets that a lot. It would sell I think just because the perception that its a "Japanese" citizen who's being restricted by the evil American military. SOFA or not. Heck, just look at how a known 14 year old yanki who has been picked up before for prostitution rallied the support of the community.:thumbup1:
Ammoyankee
02-20-2008, 01:29 PM
They cannot enforce it. What are they going to do. They are Japanese citizens 1st. What can they do NJP a Japanese spouse?
No but they can bust us for failing to control our dependents!
VWBOYAF1
02-20-2008, 01:30 PM
They could take away her command sponsorship. They should use common sense and exempt Japanese citizens.
hankypanky
02-20-2008, 01:30 PM
They cannot enforce it. What are they going to do. They are Japanese citizens 1st. What can they do NJP a Japanese spouse?
tony what did i say before. yes they are japanese citizens, but they can revoke sofa status meaning housing, school etc..don't know if i would want to push the envelope, but unless you got sofa for your dep here on oki, if they paid for your family to travel to oki as sofa sponsored, they paid, and they can take away. very far fetched but if i was sofa, i wouldn't push the issue. and living on base would be a definate no.
town living you probably could float it no problem, but with the press and a Y plate in town, someone would rat them out. as my wife says, okinawa is too small, everyone knows what's going on.
Tony Stacks
02-20-2008, 01:30 PM
No but they can bust us for failing to control our dependents!
I doubt it. They cannot tell a japanese citizen what to do and how would they know anyhow.
okisteve
02-20-2008, 01:31 PM
I want to see that. Busted one stripe for failure to control.
silviasichigo
02-20-2008, 01:31 PM
More like strip your Okinawan wife of her SOFA so she can go do whatever she wants hehe
Tony Stacks
02-20-2008, 01:32 PM
Plus a lot of spouses are not command sponsored. My wife wasn't.
DougP
02-20-2008, 01:33 PM
More like strip your Okinawan wife of her SOFA so she can go do whatever she wants hehe
I'd still get paid either way:first: But I'd have to do the on base shopping which would suck. All in all its pretty foolish to include local citizens under this restriction regardless of who their family is. Hope they enjoy the bad press.:D
DoctorP
02-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Plus a lot of spouses are not command sponsored. My wife wasn't.
Then why are you questioning it Tony if it doesn't even apply to you?
Tony Stacks
02-20-2008, 01:35 PM
I'd still get paid either way:first: But I'd have to do the on base shopping which would suck. All in all its pretty foolish to include local citizens under this restriction regardless of who their family is. Hope they enjoy the bad press.:D
No you won't. A dependant can have an ID card and not be SOFA status.
silviasichigo
02-20-2008, 01:35 PM
I'd still get paid either way:first: But I'd have to do the on base shopping which would suck. All in all its pretty foolish to include local citizens under this restriction regardless of who their family is. Hope they enjoy the bad press.:D
Oh not doubting you there just my old (young) lady is not SOFA stupid article XIV SOFA :thumbdown:
DougP
02-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Then why are you questioning it Tony if it doesn't even apply to you?
Plenty of things out there don't don't apply to me but I can still be against it and complain about it. Human trafficking isn't affecting me in any way right now but I'm 150% against it.:thumbdown:
Tony Stacks
02-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Then why are you questioning it Tony if it doesn't even apply to you?
For the same reason pther people are questioning it even though it may not apply to them. Because it's a forum and that's what we do on a forum. We talk about and question what's going on. Posts questions and opinions.
DougP
02-20-2008, 03:25 PM
My wife just sent me mail asking me if we were under house arrest:w00t: Now that's just too funny right there.:D Maybe I should tell her yes and to contact her local authorities and media.:)
Asshat
02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
My wife just sent me mail asking me if we were under house arrest:w00t: Now that's just too funny right there.:D Maybe I should tell her yes and to contact her local authorities and media.:)
Tell her you are, and you have an instant excuse to go on a three day drinking binge!
hankypanky
02-20-2008, 03:27 PM
My wife just sent me mail asking me if we were under house arrest:w00t: Now that's just too funny right there.:D Maybe I should tell her yes and to contact her local authorities and media.:)
yeah, call the jp and say your being held hostage on base. see what kinda response that gets:thumbup:
My wife just sent me mail asking me if we were under house arrest:w00t: Now that's just too funny right there.:D Maybe I should tell her yes and to contact her local authorities and media.:)
Do it! Please! :thumbup:
BigMan40
02-20-2008, 03:48 PM
My wife just sent me mail asking me if we were under house arrest:w00t: Now that's just too funny right there.:D Maybe I should tell her yes and to contact her local authorities and media.:)
Yeah I would like to see that too!
Tony Stacks
02-20-2008, 04:07 PM
My wife just sent me mail asking me if we were under house arrest:w00t: Now that's just too funny right there.:D Maybe I should tell her yes and to contact her local authorities and media.:)
Hell yea do it!!
RChan
02-20-2008, 04:23 PM
JU should do an article on how the US military is restricting Okinawans who are married to SOFA status personnel. Okinawan spouses who are SOFA sponsored are barred from shopping off base, visiting their family out in town etc... Its been made clear that they are not exempt and that alone seems pretty ludicrous so why not run a story on it?:first:
What would be a stretch is if JU would do an article of all the good things Marines and other service members do on Okinawa like volunteer numerous hours of community service and not all of these negative stories. Smells like CNN to me. Keep up the great work commies!!:thumbup:
P_chan
02-20-2008, 04:32 PM
Noooooo! Someone with a similar handle as me!
What would be a stretch is if JU would do an article of all the good things Marines and other service members do on Okinawa like volunteer numerous hours of community service and not all of these negative stories. Smells like CNN to me. Keep up the great work commies!!:thumbup:
What, like these?
http://www.japanupdate.com/?id=5898
http://www.japanupdate.com/?id=5828
http://www.japanupdate.com/?id=5832
And many more...
We post them on the website as we receive them. It'd be helpful if we were still sent press releases of positive activities.
As you can tell, judging by the dates on the stories, we haven't received press releases from the base regarding this type of activity in quite some time.
TheNoNamedOne
02-20-2008, 04:40 PM
What would be a stretch is if JU would do an article of all the good things Marines and other service members do on Okinawa like volunteer numerous hours of community service...
They do that. But, thankfully they do not do it as much as that little TV rag magazine THIS WEEK. Oh, man...that is just like a military community kiss arse rag from cover to cover.
And besides, S&S has a lot of community volunteer stuff in it already. JU doesn't need to add more propoganda stories for the community.
Funny how it's only propaganda when it's positive.
TheNoNamedOne
02-20-2008, 04:44 PM
Funny how it's only propaganda when it's positive.
That's the way the propaganda ball bounces.
RChan
02-20-2008, 04:49 PM
They do that. But, thankfully they do not do it as much as that little TV rag magazine THIS WEEK. Oh, man...that is just like a military community kiss arse rag from cover to cover.
And besides, S&S has a lot of community volunteer stuff in it already. JU doesn't need to add more propoganda stories for the community.
Its much easier to inform about good deeds and takes more effort to misguide about wrongdoings. But I guess this site needs something to complain about for people to keep coming here. How many articles can be written on every little sneeze a U.S. servicemember does? Granted the seriousness of last weeks allegation but even before that. WHat about the MLC that molested the 7 year old on base?? Also some of the articles I read in JU needs some good engrish translation once in awhile. :thumbdown:
Also some of the articles I read in JU needs some good engrish translation once in awhile. :thumbdown:
You'll hear me saying the same thing if you stick around.
TheNoNamedOne
02-20-2008, 05:07 PM
Its much easier to inform about good deeds and takes more effort to misguide about wrongdoings.
Maybe some day the newspapers will report on all the thousands of safe airplane landings that happen throughout the world everyday. I geuss we don't need to hear about the few that crash every day or week or month.
One Happy News (http://www.happynews.com/) is enough isn't it?
But I guess this site needs something to complain about for people to keep coming here.
It if bleeds it leads.
How many articles can be written on every little sneeze a U.S. servicemember does?
A lot.
How many can be written on military going out to Sunabe Sea Wall to pick up trash. Those have been reported on to death over and over. AFN news does a lot of the fuzzy feel good stories, too. Why should JU be turned into a PR rag when there are already others for that?
RChan
02-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Why should JU be turned into a PR rag when there are already others for that?
No need for it to be . Its already a propaganda rag.
Asshat
02-20-2008, 05:11 PM
How many can be written on military going out to Sunabe Sea Wall to pick up trash. Those have been reported on to death over and over. AFN news does a lot of the fuzzy feel good stories, too. Why should JU be turned into a PR rag when there are already others for that?
JU does an excellent job of reporting the good things the military does. The local papers do not for the reasons you stated above.
Thing is, the local population gets it. If I had one thing I could say to the guests on this island it would be to not worry, to continue doing the good things they are doing, and not sweat what the press says.
Everyone knows the real deal, and it's all just politics. Personally, I feel sorry for any young woman who says she was raped or assaulted. There is a large faction that will say she deserved it for being promiscuous, another faction who will pray she was abused in the most vile manner and yet another who hopes it all just goes away.
Chaganju
02-20-2008, 07:21 PM
LOL! I'm glad I joined this forum, there's a lotta juicy topics here! Too bad I can't stay long today but I shall return!
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