Make Prostitution Legal

[Oxmix]

Do you think making prostitution legal on Okinawa again would help solve the rape problem.

The whole idea of the bar districts was to give the US Service Men what they wanted in designated areas thus keeping them away from the local population.

We were encouraged to use the bar districts and leave the locals alone.

Regards

Ox

[jerky656]

They should just go down the road & pay for the "Happy Ending" massage & stop stalking the local children. Sh*t! When short on $$$ & when all else fails do it yourself!

[kombu_kid]

It might help, but to tell you the truth......that guy obviously had a desire to nail an underage chicky, maybe not so much that he needed a piece of ass so bad from an available hooker or whoever.

[Asshat]

First of all, I deplore the objectification of women. There is no rape "problem" on Okinawa, however there is a problem with men having sex with underage girls. Since the vast majority of American servicemembers are unable to use their cellphone and make a call in Japanese, the people having sex with underaged girls are Japanese.

In the past few years Ox, there has become a new standard of behavior. Essentially, anyone caught renting a prostitute is charged under the UCMJ. I recently watched an American civilian loose his job because he had photos of women from a certain vacation he and a few others took to an Asian country.

I forget the term...but hookers aint cool now.

[Ammoyankee]

I forget the term...but hookers aint cool now.

The new term is "Trafficing in Persons".

[fenderchick1977]

Sure. Make it legal. Then watch as STDs go up and you have more sick men. Then watch married men get in on the act and wives, not being of the 1950's variety anymore who might just sit back and quietly take it in humiliation, divorcing their asses creating emotional stress and child support/money issues for the service member. I think its negatives by far outweight the positives.

Uminchu is right...there really is no rape "problem". The numbers of occurrences don't suggest it. This guy was just a moron. I wonder if they happened to search any personal computers for child porn. How much you want to bet they'd find it?

[P_chan]

Sure. Make it legal. Then watch as STDs go up and you have more sick men. Then watch married men get in on the act and wives, not being of the 1950's variety anymore who might just sit back and quietly take it in humiliation, divorcing their asses creating emotional stress and child support/money issues for the service member. I think its negatives by far outweight the positives.

Uminchu is right...there really is no rape "problem". The numbers of occurrences don't suggest it. This guy was just a moron. I wonder if they happened to search any personal computers for child porn. How much you want to bet they'd find it?

Let the idiots weed themselves out if you ask me. Nothing wrong with making it legal, it's not my fault some people have no restraint.

Married me get into plenty enough trouble without using a prostitute. Every wonder how many guys at the club are married?

[okisteve]

Sure. Make it legal. Then watch as STDs go up and you have more sick men. Then watch married men get in on the act and wives, not being of the 1950's variety anymore who might just sit back and quietly take it in humiliation, divorcing their asses creating emotional stress and child support/money issues for the service member.

I know where you're coming from, but in almost all countries where it is legal there are also mandatory health checks for the women, so if anything, STIs could decrease. Anyway, legalizing it here isn't going to increase the incidence because I have the sense that the trade is running full speed ahead already and the STI rate is quite low now.

Actually, the reason that they do not have mandatory health checks now, is that theoretically prostitution does not exist because it is not legal, so the health authorities have no means to access the girls.

[hankypanky]

I know where you're coming from, but in almost all countries where it is legal there are also mandatory health checks for the women, so if anything, STIs could decrease. Anyway, legalizing it here isn't going to increase the incidence because I have the sense that the trade is running full speed ahead already and the STI rate is quite low now.

Actually, the reason that they do not have mandatory health checks now, is that theoretically prostitution does not exist because it is not legal, so the health authorities have no means to access the girls.

had this talk with my wife last night. she said when they outlawed prostitution, rape went up. She said quote, hell this guy is a snco, there are plenty of girls that sell it on the outside without making a scene with a young girl. that is a profession that will never go away. hell, some of the girls at the university down the street pull tricks in ojana for life money.

[nohohonzokuman]

The stores at the red light districts, Shinmachi, Naha, Okinawa City, there are lot of stores that do not cater to Americans anymore because when they did, they would beat on the girls that worked there because they didn't get their way. So the Americans are acting stupid both ways. They get to go in those prostitution shops, they beat the workers, they get banned, they start raping. So is this the governments fault?

[Asshat]

The stores at the red light districts, Shinmachi, Naha, Okinawa City, there are lot of stores that do not cater to Americans anymore because when they did, they would beat on the girls that worked there because they didn't get their way. So the Americans are acting stupid both ways. They get to go in those prostitution shops, they beat the workers, they get banned, they start raping. So is this the governments fault?

Yes, the government owes us. If we have kids, the government needs to pay for their education, and child care. If we get hurt, we get to sue. If we are horny, the government owes us instant gratification. It is our right!

[Ammoyankee]

Yes, the government owes us. If we have kids, the government needs to pay for their education, and child care. If we get hurt, we get to sue. If we are horny, the government owes us instant gratification. It is our right!

I really like that last part!:thumbup:

[nohohonzokuman]

It is our right!

How is it your right? :old: All business on Okinawa do not have to cater to Americnans if they don't want to. Especially the horny americans.
They originally caused the problem, therefore the got banned. They lost their right.:argh3:

[Asshat]

How is it your right? :old: All business on Okinawa do not have to cater to Americnans if they don't want to. Especially the horny americans.
They originally caused the problem, therefore the got banned. They lost their right.:argh3:

According to Japanese law, they may not discriminate. That's on the books.

And that includes the university students selling it at the top of Ojana.

[nohohonzokuman]

According to Japanese law, they may not discriminate.

Even if it is on the books, any business owner can deny service to and american customer and the government is going to back them up on it.

[Asshat]

Even if it is on the books, any business owner can deny service to and american customer and the government is going to back them up on it.

lol...you don't know me do you.

[okisteve]

According to Japanese law, they may not discriminate. That's on the books.

And that includes the university students selling it at the top of Ojana.

The law sez that hookers can't discriminate on the basis of race, color, creed, nationality, religion, etc.? Well thank God for that.:cool:

But what if she told the judge that the guy couldn't speak enough Japanese to make a fair transaction, or he was drunk, or offensive, or smelled bad?

Just playin' around here. Now where did I put that other smiley?

[Asshat]

The law sez that hookers can't discriminate on the basis of race, color, creed, nationality, religion, etc.? Well thank God for that.:cool:

But what if she told the judge that the guy couldn't speak enough Japanese to make a fair transaction, or he was drunk, or offensive, or smelled bad?

Then she has the right to "refuse" service. Of course her real grounds is that a Japanese customer was nearby and she knows his little libido can't deal with sharing.

[Oxmix]

Why is it that if you sell you body for sex it's a crime but if you give your body away for sex fee it's not a crime?

Regards

Ox

[6Mopar9]

Legal or Not.... US. military are better than that.

This Tyrone should of left the little girl alone.

Even "if" she would have agreed to anything; it's stat-rape.

[kombu_kid]

Why is it that if you sell you body for sex it's a crime but if you give your body away for sex fee it's not a crime?

Regards

Ox

Exactly! 'Cuz the gov't needs it's "cut of the action" as far as taxes from the transaction......no pun intended. I'm sure they'll rethink the morality issue of prostitution soon.....once they figure out how it will help bail out their massive budgetary red ink.

[proudtobnotpc]

The stores at the red light districts, Shinmachi, Naha, Okinawa City, there are lot of stores that do not cater to Americans anymore because when they did, they would beat on the girls that worked there because they didn't get their way. So the Americans are acting stupid both ways. They get to go in those prostitution shops, they beat the workers, they get banned, they start raping. So is this the governments fault?

are you referring to the AF dependent (December)? that whole incident quietly went away because daddy paid allot of $$$$$

[Ammoyankee]

Exactly! 'Cuz the gov't needs it's "cut of the action" as far as taxes from the transaction......no pun intended. I'm sure they'll rethink the morality issue of prostitution soon.....once they figure out how it will help bail out their massive budgetary red ink.

Are you high? They are never going to allow Trafficing in Persons, it's against the UCMJ.

[Tempestuous]

According to this comedian I heard last night- we should allow prostitution.
They are actually doing us a favor.
Those girls sleep with the freaks so the rest of us don't have to.
We should actually consider tippin prostitutes when we see them as a token of appreciation for keepin the creeps off of us.
:D

(it's a joke people, pls don't get your panties in a bunch)

[steelrain80]

Do your research, when the US arrived at Japan after WWII they ran into a new thing called "Comfort women".... This is from wikepedia

Given the well-organized and open nature of prostitution in Japan, it was seen as logical that there should be organized prostitution to serve the Japanese Armed Forces. Japanese authorities hoped that by providing easily accessible prostitutes, the morale and ultimately the military effectiveness of Japanese soldiers would be improved. Also, by institutionalizing brothels and placing them under official scrutiny, the government hoped to control the spread of STDs.

In spite of the analysis made by the author George Hicks mentioned in the preceding paragraph, military correspondence of Japanese Imperial Army shows that the aim of facilitating comfort stations was prevention of rape crimes committed by Japanese army personnel and thus preventing rise of hostility among people in occupied areas.

[hankypanky]

had a customer in the club last night, okinawan of course, a woman who's father and brother are high ranking japanese police. she was complaining why the guys in question for rape just go down to ishikawa and buy a woman, it would be alot cheaper in the long run and less trouble. she was very serious about this and said if he didn't want to buy a woman, he should of taken matters in his own hands:D.

i told her it is now illegal to buy woman, but she says the americans are out there all the time. i guess NIS is not putting anyone out there undercover to arrest anyone. that would be a good job, undercover in a whore house. any takers?

[Oxmix]

Do your research, when the US arrived at Japan after WWII they ran into a new thing called "Comfort women".... This is from wikepedia

Given the well-organized and open nature of prostitution in Japan, it was seen as logical that there should be organized prostitution to serve the Japanese Armed Forces. Japanese authorities hoped that by providing easily accessible prostitutes, the morale and ultimately the military effectiveness of Japanese soldiers would be improved. Also, by institutionalizing brothels and placing them under official scrutiny, the government hoped to control the spread of STDs.

In spite of the analysis made by the author George Hicks mentioned in the preceding paragraph, military correspondence of Japanese Imperial Army shows that the aim of facilitating comfort stations was prevention of rape crimes committed by Japanese army personnel and thus preventing rise of hostility among people in occupied areas.

As I said before. When I was on Okinawa in the 60's prostitution was legal and bar, entertainment districts, were set up to prevent sex crimes from being committed against the local population.

I like the term "facilitating comfort stations" :D


Conspiracy Theory:
I think that prostitution was deliberately outlawed by the Japanese because they knew that sex crimes would be committed against the local population resulting in the removal of American Forces from the Island. :rolleyes:

Regards

Ox

[RODSCALIP5]

When a person "Rapes" a woman it's not for the pleasure of sex. Prostitution would help the Young Airmen/Sailor/Marine/Soldier who can't get a girlfriend relieve themselves. Rapes would still happen. Take for example the Soldier and the Filipina girl, there was more likely some type of transaction, something went wrong and he ended up raping her (if it happened). They need to bring back "The Stage".

[jthizz]

"buy my drinkie"

[Ammoyankee]

When a person "Rapes" a woman it's not for the pleasure of sex. Prostitution would help the Young Airmen/Sailor/Marine/Soldier who can't get a girlfriend relieve themselves. Rapes would still happen. Take for example the Soldier and the Filipina girl, there was more likely some type of transaction, something went wrong and he ended up raping her (if it happened). They need to bring back "The Stage".


Maybe he didn't...

[Asshat]

whether it is made legal or illegal is irrelevant
it has been going on and will continue to go on!

Thank goodness for that!

[Asshat]

Is that an admission that you support the local popcorn vendors?
:D

100 percent, whenever I can. Cheaper than wives, and you don't have to listen to them.

[okisteve]

Are wives really that expensive?
LOL
The not having to listen part would seem priceless though:D

If I knew how to access an encyclopedia of jokes, I could find a few hundred on that last topic, Guyjin.

[Oki Cajun]

The whole reason why we have such a sex problem in the U.S. is the fact that our country was founded on protestant principles, and you have people that are just jones'in for sex. I don't know if the Hadnott was in that category, but look at Australia, prostitution has always been legal and you don't hear about rampant rapes and sexual assaults as much as you do with the U.S. If prostitution was legal, the government could regulate and tax it, and ensure the workers are tested. Thats how other governments make it work for them. American women will always be opposed to it because it gives someone a cheaper and less frictitious alternative. I don't personally partake in it because I'm an undiagnosed hypochondriac, but I don't see anything morally wrong with it. If someone is safe, and the people are honest about what's going on, then why not let them ? Make no mistake, prostitution is the oldest and most honest profession there is, and the sooner the prudes in the U.S. wake up to it, the less people you'll have going out and raping people. Bring on the whores baby !

[Son Kokujin]

I honestly a lack of CONSIDERATION in our own society as well as here in Nippon is definitely a problem...and it really sucks that nobody's figured that out yet. When I was stationed here, as a Marine, Sgt. Maj. Carter always told us to do the right thing, because it was the right thing to do. I still live by this, and believe me, as a civilian here, it helps. I am sick ot the 10% on BOTH sides of the fence getting all the attention. People who hate you because YOU aren't THEM can't wait until you screw up, so they can tounge-lash you and call you a savage that needs to be caged. I treat people here as if they grew up with me back in Chi-Town. I am willing to learn as well as share the knowledge I've gained. If someone simply dislikes me due to what someone else did, it speaks volumes about their lack of character. As an American, I have seen such negative mentality back in the States go unchecked. As an immigrant here in Nippon, I see the EXACT SAME THING as well. I wonder if there are any Nihonjin or Americans who agree with me on this one...

[Oki Cajun]

I honestly a lack of CONSIDERATION in our own society as well as here in Nippon is definitely a problem...and it really sucks that nobody's figured that out yet. When I was stationed here, as a Marine, Sgt. Maj. Carter always told us to do the right thing, because it was the right thing to do. I still live by this, and believe me, as a civilian here, it helps. I am sick ot the 10% on BOTH sides of the fence getting all the attention. People who hate you because YOU aren't THEM can't wait until you screw up, so they can tounge-lash you and call you a savage that needs to be caged. I treat people here as if they grew up with me back in Chi-Town. I am willing to learn as well as share the knowledge I've gained. If someone simply dislikes me due to what someone else did, it speaks volumes about their lack of character. As an American, I have seen such negative mentality back in the States go unchecked. As an immigrant here in Nippon, I see the EXACT SAME THING as well. I wonder if there are any Nihonjin or Americans who agree with me on this one...

I agree, but it's a problem on both sides. I don't think either side really tries to understand the other better, and you just have a lot of arbitrary finger pointing. The Okinawans argue that we are always causing trouble etc, and the Americans don't really understand the plight that Okinawans have gone through and what their mentality is. Most of us have grown up in such a drastically different world than Okinawans that its next to impossible to live on an island where (to them) there is a constant foreign presence, where the visiting team has more defense assets than our own country, and how the bigshots in Tokyo are making all the agreements that keep them here longer. So, after decades of shut up and take it, they get their shots in where they can, so any time our 99% exemplary-behaved military makes a mistake, they capitalize on it. It's the only thing they can do whatsoever to mimic having a say in any of their own affairs. However, its really pretty hard to believe actually, being that its such a small island and the fact that the U.S. has been here for so long. It's not going to go on forever, and I would bet that its at most 20 yrs away from us being gone for good altogether. At that point, it will be interesting to see what the reaction is.