NFL Playoffs 2008

[DoctorP]

Who do you like...besides the Pats! :rolleyes:

I'm putting my weekly picks here, so they are public. I hate people who say after the games "oh yeah, I picked them to win too!"

Washington over Seattle

Jax over Pitt

Tampa over Giants (this could go either way)

San Diego over Tennessee

So I'm picking two home teams and two visitors....one being Washington traveling all the way to the West coast. History says that you never pick an East coast team that has to travel so far...but we'll see.

[atb35]

I agree with you on three of the games, but I dont see Jax beating Pitt. Pitt seems to step up in the playoffs and play a bit better then normal. I would pick the Giants over TB also, but like you said, could go either way.

[DoctorP]

Well...1 for 1 today. I knew better than to pick Washington after they had to travel, but what can I say?? Jax pulled it out though.

[Mad Hatter]

I'm taking you to the track there lucky man!!

[DoctorP]

I'm taking you to the track there lucky man!!

Always pick the dog that does his business just before the race! :thumbup:

[retributionnk]

Always pick the dog that does his business just before the race! :thumbup:

QFT!

I'm going with Green Bay/Jax for the NFC championship, and the obvious Indy/New england for the AFC. And for the Super Bowl, I'm guessing New England/Green Bay. Being that I'm a Green Bay fan, I'll say that the Pack will win the Super Bowl, but I know the odds are stacked heavily in New England's favor. I really would love to see NE muck up a perfect season and get blown out in the Super bowl though. =D

[TheLastDon]

QFT!

I'm going with Green Bay/Jax for the NFC championship,

I hate to point out the obvious but Jax is AFC.:D

[TheLastDon]

Oh, here are my picks for this weekend

AFC

NE over Jax Sat. Jan 12 8:00 ET

SD over IND Sun. Jan 13 1:00 ET :scared:

NFC

GB over SEA Sat. Jan 12 4:30 ET

DAL over NYG Sun. Jan 13 4:30 ET

Can we get this on the sports betting pool? I tried but I don't see where we can create a new event.

[retributionnk]

WOOPS! yea I don't know where my brain was at on that one. I think my mind was set on yesterday's games for some reason, thinking that they were both NFC. At any rate... replace all instances of jax with the giants... results are the same!

*walks away insulting himself*
idiot!

[DoctorP]

Added an event for Superbowl winner to the betting pool.

My picks for this weekend:

Colts over Bolts

Giants over Dallas

GB over Seattle

Jacksonville over NE (longshot I know!)

[TheLastDon]

Jacksonville over NE (longshot I know!)

Long shot but we can only hope.:thumbup:

I'm not watching the Superbowl if NE is in it. :thumbdown:

[Tony Stacks]

Ik u said besides that pats so I apologize in advance but it7s all about those Pats!!!!

Go Pats!!!!

[DoctorP]

My favorite stats of the weekend: In the 2nd quarter of the Jags/Steelers game the Jags had 20 yards rushing to the Steelers 27 yards. At the end of the 3rd quarter the stat went to Jags 87 yards, Steelers 27 yards. It seemed like Davenport was doing better than that!

[ja_Patriot]

Oh, here are my picks for this weekend

AFC

NE over Jax Sat. Jan 12 8:00 ET

SD over IND Sun. Jan 13 1:00 ET :scared:

NFC

GB over SEA Sat. Jan 12 4:30 ET

DAL over NYG Sun. Jan 13 4:30 ET

Can we get this on the sports betting pool? I tried but I don't see where we can create a new event.

Agree with you on all except for the last game - NYG over DAL.

How about a friendly bet of 1,000,000 credits Giants beat the Boys?

[TheLastDon]

Agree with you on all except for the last game - NYG over DAL.

How about a friendly bet of 1,000,000 credits Giants beat the Boys?


1,000,000 credits ? Ok, I will take that bet. :thumbup:

[ja_Patriot]

1,000,000 credits ? Ok, I will take that bet. :thumbup:

Deal! :thumbup:

[DoctorP]

The betting pool is open, but it closes before the first game this weekend:

http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/casino.php?do=sportspool

[socalheart]

dudes, you gots to bet more than 1 or 50... that's just so lame. :p

[TheLastDon]

I bet 1 mil each on GB, DAL, SD, and JAX. So if none of those win somebody is looking at a big payday.

[Muku]

Ok here I go...10 million on the Patriots, 10 million on the Colts, 10 million on the Packers, and 10 million on the Giants.


Oh can anyone give me a hand out in the link below.....

Anyone know of any places to watch.... (http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3240)

[socalheart]

Ok here I go...10 million on the Patriots, 10 million on the Colts, 10 million on the Packers, and 10 million on the Giants.

:p show off billionaire! http://stat.livejournal.com/img/talk/md01_alien.gif just for that the chargers will probably win. gah!

[retributionnk]

If only I weren't a gambling addict, I'd put my trillions of credits on the Packers this week. I've been a fan of the Pack for a long time now, and can't wait to see if Favre makes the Super Bowl this year! I think the Patriots are a given for the AFC, but I'd love to see the Jags take it. As for the other games, NYG has a good chance against the Cowboys, and the Colts will give it to the Chargers... 42-10!

[Muku]

:p show off billionaire! http://stat.livejournal.com/img/talk/md01_alien.gif just for that the chargers will probably win. gah!
If the Chargers make it to the Superbowl:rolleyes: and Green Bay does:first: we will have to make a small bet on the game.

GB rocked ya'll once this year, I am pretty sure they can do it again.:D

[Muku]

If only I weren't a gambling addict, I'd put my trillions of credits on the Packers this week. I've been a fan of the Pack for a long time now, and can't wait to see if Favre makes the Super Bowl this year! I think the Patriots are a given for the AFC, but I'd love to see the Jags take it. As for the other games, NYG has a good chance against the Cowboys, and the Colts will give it to the Chargers... 42-10!
Hey since you are a Pack fan too why not get into the betting pool here.:thumbup:

You have plenty of credits to make your bet too.:D

[retributionnk]

HA! here i go then!
10,000,000 on the Pack. Easy come, easy go.

[DoctorP]

dudes, you gots to bet more than 1 or 50... that's just so lame. :p

Socal...doesn't matter, as the payoff is proportional to your bet! If they only be 1 credit, then if they win, they would get a much smaller split than any other winners. It would only be a big deal if they were the only one to bet on that particular team.

But yeah...it is lame!

[socalheart]

yeah i know docp, but if they bet more and don't win, i have a better chance at getting more cred$. ;) muahaha... :43: :42: :31:

[retributionnk]

*sigh* I can't believe I'm actually setting my alarm for 6am tomorrow...
I'm actually going to watch the Packers game. maybe I'll make a breakfasty version of tailgate food. Perhaps a breakfast pizza with sausage gravy instead of pizza sauce? mmmm....

[Muku]

*sigh* I can't believe I'm actually setting my alarm for 6am tomorrow...
I'm actually going to watch the Packers game. maybe I'll make a breakfasty version of tailgate food. Perhaps a breakfast pizza with sausage gravy instead of pizza sauce? mmmm....


Heck why set the alarm just start the tailgate party tonight!:thumbup:

[InFaMoUs]

NE all the way....19-0!!

[retributionnk]

28-17 at the half! Excellent first half! Go Pack!

[Muku]

28-17 at the half! Excellent first half! Go Pack!
Those first two fumbles were scary, entertaining game thats for sure:thumbup:

[DoctorP]

Man...what a turn around for Grant after the two fumbles. Three TD's and 200yards rushing! Hell of a game!

[DoctorP]

I don't understand why Farve is still in the game though! Pull him already!

[socalheart]

heh. I'm such a girl. I liked the time when the big GB guy had the ball, and the SS guy was holding onto his leg trying to tackle him, but the GB guy was dragging the SS guy. heehee. It was funny to see. This is a good game to watch. Those poor guys are starting to feel the cold though. They're fumbling and slipping more.

[retributionnk]

Wow. Minus those 2 fluke Seahawk touchdowns, I'd call that a rout! Excellent game GB! To the NFC championships (my prediction, vs. NYG, at Lambeau).

[Muku]

HA! here i go then!
10,000,000 on the Pack. Easy come, easy go.
Well :thumbup: How about now?:first:

[retributionnk]

I win. Not much, but I win! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[TheLastDon]

Jax strike first, awesome throw by Garrard but very lucky it wasn't challenged.

[retributionnk]

JAX v. NE is turning into a shootout. This game is getting good!

[DoctorP]

Pretty good so far...tied at the half! Damn Brady hasn't thrown an incomplete pass yet!

[TheLastDon]

It's over. NE got it now,:cursing: oh well, I am 2 for 2.

[InFaMoUs]

17-0!!!! 2 more to go

[DoctorP]

Man that was a good game. Jax had too many times where they either tried to tackle too high, or went for the strip instead of the tackle. Can't give up those extra yards! NE is too damn tough...esp when the QB goes 26/28! Good job NE!

[retributionnk]

Good game. A shame JAX couldn't have kept it close right up till the end. I hate the patriots so darn much.

[DoctorP]

The TD pass that Brady threw to Watson was just SICK! There is no way to defend that!

[retributionnk]

Indeed. The Patriots' team chemistry makes me want to vomit. Its almost as if they've been video recording every team's defensive signals for years...

[InFaMoUs]

The TD pass that Brady threw to Watson was just SICK! There is no way to defend that!

Its amazing that he was drafted so low and has done everything that he has. Hes only 30, and just 2 wins away from winning his 4th Superbowl.

Plus IMO, this is the first year he actually has an above average recieving corp. Before this year the best reciever hes had was Deion Branch who is good but probably a true #2 reciever.

[DoctorP]

A look at three of the QB's from Saturday's games:

Brady 26/28 262yards 3TD's and a 141.4 rating

Farve 18/23 173 yards 3TD's and a 137.6 rating

Garrard 22/33 278 yards 2TD's 1INT and a 100.3 rating (he was actually at 150 rating until the 4th qtr!)

That's some impressive play by QB's! Saturday was definitely a good day for football!

[ja_Patriot]

And the Manning bros in a few hours should make it an interesting Sunday /(Monday).

[DoctorP]

And the Manning bros in a few hours should make it an interesting Sunday /(Monday).

Depends on which Eli shows up...and if Peyton repeats his previous poor performance against San Diego! Could be a good day for the family or a really bad one!

[DoctorP]

OMG!!!!:eek::eek: Was that one helluva game or what? The Chargers win using their backup running back and backup QB!

I know Turner could start on at least 10 teams in the league but Damn that was impressive!

[ja_Patriot]

Halftime14-14 Big Blue Big D. Who will come up big in the 2nd half?

[DoctorP]

SD's o-line is what won that game for them! They played great!

[Muku]

:p show off billionaire! http://stat.livejournal.com/img/talk/md01_alien.gif just for that the chargers will probably win. gah!
Besides you and the people in SanDiego I cant believe that anyone would have seen this upset.

Congratulations.....good luck next week in New England.

[DoctorP]

Good lord!!!! Romo...throw the damn ball away instead of taking the sack!

[DocTurtle]

Last chance for Dallas.

[Muku]

Here they come to Green Bay :thumbup:

YES!

[DocTurtle]

Wow, that sucks. Too bad Dallas.

[DoctorP]

Amazing game...Hats off to the Giants!

Dallas dominated in the stats...except for return yards and penalties! Penalties killed 'em...not to mention the NY front four!

[DocTurtle]

Very true. They had around 40 yrds in penalties just in the 1st half!

[Muku]

Dallas imo screwed up by not getting TO and Barber more touches in the 2nd half. It was another great game though...sorry Doc...I know you liked Dallas.

Hell 3 out of 4 in the betting, not too bad.:D

Only missed the SD game.

My early picks for the Championship Games;

New England over San Diego

Packers over the Giants

[ja_Patriot]

DocP,
Could you add another sports betting event for the conf championships?

[DoctorP]

San Diego over NE (just because I want to be different!)

Pack over Giants (because the Giants don't know how to throw snowballs!)

[DoctorP]

DocP,
Could you add another sports betting event for the conf championships?

Will do...the other one is staying up because that was for superbowl winners. It'll be up in a few minutes!

[DoctorP]

The betting pool is up...two different ones...One for NFC and one for AFC

[Muku]

Will do...the other one is staying up because that was for superbowl winners. It'll be up in a few minutes!
Boy I missed that one.....I thought that pool was just for the division games. I wonder if I am the only one that missed it?:o

[TheLastDon]

Besides you and the people in SanDiego I cant believe that anyone would have seen this upset.

Congratulations.....good luck next week in New England.

Um, don't mean to sound "condescending" or anything but I called it.:p

Stupid Dallas, if they would of won I would of went 4 for 4. :cursing:
What the heck was Romo thinking on that last drive, must of had Jessica Simpson on his mind. :rolleyes:

Oh, well here's your 1 million Ja.

[ja_Patriot]

TLD,
I'll take your donation, thanks. Tell you the truth, when the New Jersey Giants didn't convert on that last third down, the game was up for grabs. Romo just didn't take it.

How about next week? Packers-Giants. Think Packers will cover the odds? It just 6 1/2 points, Giants underdog.

1,000,000 says Giants will win outright. I'll give you the odds 'cause I'm a nice guy. ;-)

[DocTurtle]

lol, I'm not a Dallas fan, but all of my friends seem to be. I want to get them a sympathy card. Sorry for your loss, lol.

[Muku]

Well beating a team, any team, three times in the same season I think is pretty damn hard. Especially when it comes to playoff time.

Dallas had a great year, but imo gotta give credit to the Giants for this one. I am just so glad GB doesnt have to go play in Texas for the NFC Championship. :thumbup:

Um, don't mean to sound "condescending" or anything but I called it.


You sure did. Great call too!:thumbup:

How about next week? Packers-Giants. Think Packers will cover the odds? It just 6 1/2 points, Giants underdog
Still early in my opinion about the odds, but for starters nearly a one touchdown spread is high for playoff football. I wonder what the extended weather forecast is for GB this coming Sunday?


Just checked......(As of now anyway)

Sunday
Mostly sunny. Highs 5 to 10 above zero Damn it is going to be cold up there.

Oh I'll take the Packers and the spread for one million if you are interested?:D

[TheLastDon]

TLD,
I'll take your donation, thanks. Tell you the truth, when the New Jersey Giants didn't convert on that last third down, the game was up for grabs. Romo just didn't take it.

How about next week? Packers-Giants. Think Packers will cover the odds? It just 6 1/2 points, Giants underdog.

1,000,000 says Giants will win outright. I'll give you the odds 'cause I'm a nice guy. ;-)

Well how about we make it interesting then? 50 mil?:ohmy:

And when the heck did you make it to a Billion?:scared:

I will hang it all out but I am positive the Packers will take it by more than a touchdown.:thumbup:

[ja_Patriot]

Out of principle, can't be reckless.

I'll take just a million each, Muku & TLD.

Giants to win the NFC championship, straight up.

(Means Packers won't have to win by a touchdown to cover.)

OK, I'm a Brett Favre fan as well, but Big Blue seems to have momentum - and luck this year (without Tiki rattling off).

[Muku]

Out of principle, can't be reckless.

I'll take just a million each, Muku & TLD.

Giants to win the NFC championship, straight up.

(Means Packers won't have to win by a touchdown to cover.)

OK, I'm a Brett Favre fan as well, but Big Blue seems to have momentum - and luck this year (without Tiki rattling off).

You are on:thumbup: I think GB, playing AT Lambeau in the cold will carry the day.

Plus I would love to see New England and GB in the Superbowl.......I think GB matches up better with NE than the Giants do.

[retributionnk]

I've got 5mill on the Pack.
sheesh, no one is talking about the chargers vs the pats. Just for the heck of it, I think I'll put 500k on the Chargers!

[TheLastDon]

Roger that Ja, 1 Mil straight up.

I just don't see Eli as being up for the task but who knows he is doing good so far.

[TheLastDon]

I've got 5mill on the Pack.
sheesh, no one is talking about the chargers vs the pats. Just for the heck of it, I think I'll put 500k on the Chargers!

Didn't really check but are Rivers and Tomlinson still questionable to play?

[ja_Patriot]

Deal!:thumbup:

Eli could be coming of age. Seijin no hi in his own way, like his bro last year. At least he didn't fall apart like Romo did.

If not, I'd like to see Brett and the Packers teach the Patriots a lesson (if they get past the Bolts).

[DoctorP]

Didn't really check but are Rivers and Tomlinson still questionable to play?

Right now they are...but I'd bet Tomlinson is ok...that is why he sat all day today. He'll recover, and you can bet he'll play! Volek is more than capable at QB, that is why AJ picked him up! He played well in Tennessee.

[Boost]

imo gotta give credit to the Giants for this one.

...And the Ref's as well for helping them win that one. Not saying Dallas didn't have some horrible plays and penalties, but the Giants were getting away with some serious bull chit that they should have had penalties called on. The Giants played dirty if you ask me, and got away with it. Wonder how much the Ref's were paid...:rolleyes:

Oh well, regardless of what happened...

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[atb35]

...And the Ref's as well for helping them win that one. Not saying Dallas didn't have some horrible plays and penalties, but the Giants were getting away with some serious bull chit that they should have had penalties called on. The Giants played dirty if you ask me, and got away with it. Wonder how much the Ref's were paid...:rolleyes:

Oh well, regardless of what happened...

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HAHA...which plays exactly? Was Romo's intentional grounding a BS call too?

[Boost]

HAHA...which plays exactly? Was Romo's intentional grounding a BS call too?

I did say there were some horrible plays on the part of the cowboys.

[Tempestuous]

I wasn't impressed with several of the Giant's players sportsmanship.

I actually thought Ross deserved the injury he got, since the refs couldn't bother to catch him.
Karma bit him in the butt. :D

I also think the offsides call on Ware wasn't correct. He was watching the clock and the ball & he had his timing near perfect.

He was just a faster mover than everyone else......not offsides.

But- what's done is done.
Can't go back.
Perhaps a better year next year.

[InFaMoUs]

YouTube - Terrell Owens Crying

:crying:

[Muku]

And the Ref's as well for helping them win that one. Not saying Dallas didn't have some horrible plays and penalties, but the Giants were getting away with some serious bull chit that they should have had penalties called on. The Giants played dirty if you ask me, and got away with it. Wonder how much the Ref's were paid...

Oh well, regardless of what happened...


I think there were non calls on both sides of the ball, nothing that I can point to now, after the fact. And I believe that generally speaking the home team gets the benefit of the doubt more often than not.

Dallas didnt get the job done, to me it's that simple. Sure I was rooting for the Giants because I didnt want to see GB go to Texas Stadium for another game there.

I dont think it's fair to say the Giants played dirty. On that point I think we are not going to agree, which is fine.:)

[Boost]

I think there were non calls on both sides of the ball, nothing that I can point to now, after the fact. And I believe that generally speaking the home team gets the benefit of the doubt more often than not.



At one point Dallas had 8 penatalties...Giants 1. So yeah, I slightly disagree with the line of thought that says, generally speaking the home team gets the benefit of the doubt.

And I'm sorry, but if some of the antics performed by Giants players after the play was done is not considered dirty, then the Raiders are an angelic team as well. The dude who chucked the ball at the play clock after scoring? I hope the NFL fines him for that one, cause that was surly unsportmans like conduct.

There are more examples, but it is after the fact and a done deal anyways. It was a great season overall. Just wish Romo would have left the blond bimbo alone. :w00t:

[Fonze]

poor cowboys. I honestly think it was partly Jessica simpsons fault. I think when he hooked up with her thay started fcking and that threw his concentration off. Before her he really had to just learn plays and drills. Then with her he had to think of her more often.

[atb35]

I dont know, Superbowl is nice and all, but how often do you get a chance to say your shagged Jessica Simpson on a beach in Mexico?

As far as the game goes though, I have never been a believer in penalties changing a game. One or two, even 5-6 plays arent going to determine the outcome of a game. Yes, ONE bad call will negate a TD with no time left on the clock, but what happened the other 100+ plays? If a team is that good, they wont have to worry about scoring that last second FG or TD....

I agree bad calls make a difference, but they dont change the games. Good teams are good teams, bad teams get lucky...either with calls or plays.

[atb35]

And I'm sorry, but if some of the antics performed by Giants players after the play was done is not considered dirty, then the Raiders are an angelic team as well. The dude who chucked the ball at the play clock after scoring? I hope the NFL fines him for that one, cause that was surly unsportmans like conduct. :

I agree 100% with you here. Even as a Giants fan, I thought that was f-d up and didnt understand why he didnt get penalized for it.

[Fonze]

The play that ****** it up was when romo threw it away. He has the speed and agility why not have run it. Oh well to late now.


How bout them super chargers? I hope to high heaven that they upset the Pats.

Greenbay/Chargers superbowl.

[Boost]

I agree 100% with you here. Even as a Giants fan, I thought that was f-d up and didnt understand why he didnt get penalized for it.

That is more along the lines of what I was actually whining about. Not that the penalty calls on the Cowboys were BS, but the lack of penalty calls on the Giants was BS.

Oh well though, congrats atb35 on your Giants winning.

I dont know, Superbowl is nice and all, but how often do you get a chance to say your shagged Jessica Simpson on a beach in Mexico?

Touche! :D

[InFaMoUs]

Monday morning isnt getting here quick enough!! Its going to be a really long weekend.

[atb35]

Im in a win-win situation. Im a NYG fan, but I also like the Packers because I lived there for six years, and that is where my kids live. Something about the Packers...they kinda grow on you for whatever reason.

Either way, I will be happy.

[InFaMoUs]

Im in a win-win situation. Im a NYG fan, but I also like the Packers because I lived there for six years, and that is where my kids live. Something about the Packers...they kinda grow on you for whatever reason.

Either way, I will be happy.

Im a Pats fan, from the Boston area not someone who jumped on the bandwagon. Somehow my wife has always liked the Packers even though she grew up there too. :rolleyes:

[DoctorP]

poor cowboys. I honestly think it was partly Jessica simpsons fault. I think when he hooked up with her thay started fcking and that threw his concentration off. Before her he really had to just learn plays and drills. Then with her he had to think of her more often.

So what? He was able to concentrate better on football when he was shagging Carrie Underwood? :D

[Fonze]

I dont think he shagged carrie but just went out on a date. Also if he would have won he would have gotten better than her.

[DoctorP]

I dont think he shagged carrie but just went out on a date. Also if he would have won he would have gotten better than her.

Either way it had to be a distraction!

[TheLastDon]

I can't stand that biyatch carrie!

[Boost]

Im in a win-win situation. Im a NYG fan, but I also like the Packers because I lived there for six years, and that is where my kids live. Something about the Packers...they kinda grow on you for whatever reason.

Either way, I will be happy.

I have some family who are pretty big Packers fans, so I figure I will go for them now that da boys are out.

And speaking of ole Romo being a little distracted because of Jessica, anybody hear about John Meyers posting a blog on his website defending her against those who are blaming here for distracting Romo and being a jinx to the Cowboys? I didn't read it, but thought it was funny that her former man is coming to her defense about this one.

[Fonze]

I Dont blame jessica i blame him for having been distracted from the bigger picture. I still think they have a better chance next year.

[ja_Patriot]

He should have taken care of business first. Mardi Gras or Carnival in Rio or anywhere would have been perfect with an SB ring - in late February.

Let's see what happens in a few hours and who goes to the big game.

[Fonze]

Do the Chargers have a chance against the Pats?

[Muku]

Do the Chargers have a chance against the Pats?

Sure they have a chance, about as much of a chance as the Giants have of beating GB:rolleyes::D

[atb35]

NY has a far better chance of beating GB then SD has of beating NE. NE is just mistake-free perfection this year. Everything is clicking and I dont know there is anyone that will beat them. Even the Dolphins COULD beat them, I seriously doubt anyone will.
NY just needs to do two things, pressure Favre (good luck with that) and run the ball down GBs throat (they definately can do that). You cant overlook the fact that NY is doing amesome on the road this year, and Eli is actually playing mistake free when it counts. IF and I emphasize IF Eli plays mistake free again, they have a very good chance of winning.

Also NY plays in cold weather outdoors as well as GB, SD plays in tropical weather, they will not be ready for the weather.

[atb35]

Where would be a good place to watch the games? Im not working tomorrow so I wont be watching it at the clinic. I will have to check here on Futenma if anyone is playing it.

[ja_Patriot]

Watch the games online. PM me if you need links.

Another day, another game, but NYG were leading the Pats end of third in that last reg season game.

I'd say all 4 teams will have their chances. A deflected ball, a turnover could spell the difference.

Should be 2 interesting games right there.

[Fonze]

I think for the Chargers they have to bring alot more pressure to Brady than the Jags did. Brady with that much time will eat them alive.

[atb35]

any links to websites that broadcast the actual video of the game would be great, all i ever find is the stupid virtual scroeboards

[InFaMoUs]

Do the Chargers have a chance against the Pats?


Disclaimer: I am not a Football expert, just a Patriot fan who thinks the Chargers can beat them if they play a solid game.

1. Go after Brady and try to force him to make some mistakes. The Patriots do have a good offensive line so its not going to be easy but as we all saw last week getting no pass rush isnt the answer. They do have Merriman who is one of the most feared pass rushers in the league.

2. Get Antonio Cromartie on Moss, hes a playmaker and has shown he can make big plays. If Brady wants to risk throwing the ball downfield then have your playmaker on Moss. If the double up on Moss all day then there are going to be guys open all day. I think they do have to go with a mix of man coverage and double teaming Moss. When they do go man they the HAVE to put Cromartie on Moss. Also, when they do go man coverage they should be blitzing to help Cromartie.


3. Put a CB who can really Jam well at the line to cover Welker. They cant let him get a free release and run whatever route he wants. They should be physical with him all day since hes a small reciever who is used to running his routes uncontested.

4. Pound the ball on Offense!!! They have LT (Depending how healthy he is) and Turner who should both be able to run the ball if they commit to it. Turner inside and LT outside. NE has old LBs that the Chargers need to try to exploit.

5. Use screen passes to keep the NE defense honest. Darren Sproles has playmaking speed and they need to get the ball into his hands. Make those Patriot LBs run around the field.

6. Special Team play is important!! Get good field position and cover your punts/kickoffs.


IMO, they wont win this game but they need to take some chances and make the Patriots get out of the comfort zone of sitting back and letting Brady and the recievers have a field day. Then on offense they need to run the ball ALOT and try to find ways to ear down the Patriots LBs.

[DoctorP]

You think the Pats will play a little dirty and go for LT's bad knee?

[DoctorP]

14-9 Pats over Chargers at the half...Rivers is obviously hurt, but he's playing well. Aside from the one pass that was way underthrown!

Let's see what adjustments are made.

It sure seems like Asanti Samuels leads with his helmet a lot...thought that was illegal, but I guess not.

[InFaMoUs]

Good first half. I think if Volek was in there the Chargers might be up right now.

[InFaMoUs]

Maroney is moving the ball, it looks like not getting much work during the regular season is paying off.

[retributionnk]

The Chargers have kept it close, but it's never really felt like they've had a chance. 21-12 right now. I'm guessing 28-12 by the end of this drive. Stick a fork in 'em.

[InFaMoUs]

The Chargers have kept it close, but it's never really felt like they've had a chance. 21-12 right now. I'm guessing 28-12 by the end of this drive. Stick a fork in 'em.

Yeah, its not looking good for them now. 18-0!!!! Only 1 more win to go

[retributionnk]

Now for the real game! GO PACK!

[Muku]

its minus 2F with a wind chill around minus 25F Great Farveball weather!:w00t:

[DoctorP]

Eli played well...until that last 48 seconds! He sure made a mess out of clock management!

[retributionnk]

Wow, what a horrible showing by the Packers thus far. I'm this close >< from disowning my favorite team... STUPID DEFENSIVE PENALTIES

[InFaMoUs]

The penalties have hurt but Al Harris has been getting manhandled and the refs are letting Plexico get away with it. If they call it on Harris they need to call it both ways.

[Muku]

About 2 minutes left what's up GB? Giants and Eli are playing better than I thought they would be......

Woah did GB dodge a bullet on that TD called back....:eek:

[DoctorP]

Eli is coming up big when he needs to!

[Muku]

Eli is coming up big when he needs to!
He is playing a great game.

Things are looking shaky for GB right now.

[InFaMoUs]

Man, Thats why you dont try to pick up a fumble and run with it. I learned that when I was 8 years old playing football.

[DoctorP]

OH snap!!! he missed it!

[InFaMoUs]

WOW, what a game

[retributionnk]

Thank god for that long snapper. I don't have to burn my GB jerseys. Hmm... Green Bay ball... "We want the ball, and we're gonna score."

[Muku]

Damn GB dodged another one with that missed FG.:eek:

[retributionnk]

1 more botched field goal! PLEASE!!!

[retributionnk]

....For the record: **** the Packers. Brett Favre is a choke artist. :thumbup:

[InFaMoUs]

Favre did blow that throw. He had alot of room to lead the reciever but he threw it behind him.

[ja_Patriot]

What a game!

[Fonze]

Favre blew the game. he had a wide open man in the middle. Oh well. As much as i dont like either team i want the giants to squash the patriots and break Bradys leg or something.:ohmy::D

[TheLastDon]

Good game but Tynes saved them. 3rd Tynes the charm.:D

[DoctorP]

As much as I like Farve, this is a sign that he should go ahead and retire. Don't come back next year, because you won't make it this far again.

[DoctorP]

woo hoo! I won $11 million credits on the betting pool! Thanks NY!

[Fonze]

As much as I like Farve, this is a sign that he should go ahead and retire. Don't come back next year, because you won't make it this far again.

Im with you on that one. It's time to get Rodgers in. Nice carreer favre and got some new records. It also seemed like he was tired at the end there.

[DoctorP]

Im with you on that one. It's time to get Rodgers in. Nice carreer favre and got some new records. It also seemed like he was tired at the end there.

I don't know about tired...but he looked really sick all day.

[retributionnk]

As much as I like Farve, this is a sign that he should go ahead and retire. Don't come back next year, because you won't make it this far again.

As much as I hate Favre (at the moment at least), I don't think he should retire yet. This was one of his 3 poor performances this season (which is good by any standard. the other 2 bad games were against the bears btw.). Favre had a really bad day but still managed to keep it close, and he didn't have much help at all from the GB defense. I can't believe people are already saying he's washed up (again), just hours after GB loses the NFC championship game (you know, the game right before the super bowl?), in overtime no less! He's got a fresh young team that has breathed life back into him. I think he should (and will) stick around at least one more year.

Edit: I hope tynes dies in his sleep. On second thought... I guess you cant miss all of them.

Edit 2: Im with you on that one. It's time to get Rodgers in. Nice carreer favre and got some new records. It also seemed like he was tired at the end there.

Please tell me you aren't serious! Aaron Rodgers would be useless as a starting QB, he's been on the bench for what, 4 years now? If Favre does retire, the Pack will be looking for a starter, not a backup for A-Rod.

[atb35]

I dont think Favre should come back, he had a great season, but I really doubt GB will be back to the championship next season. I will say though, Favre had some great passes and he was mobile enough to get away from some pressure, so who knows.....

[DoctorP]

Chargers main problem today...they scored field goals instead of TD's!

Chargers scored 4 times, but all FG's...Pats score three times but all TD's...Chargers could've won that game easily if they executed a little beter in the red zone.

Rivers played nice, but I still believe if Volek played it would have opened things up more by having a more mobile QB. But...anyone can look back and be an armchair QB...Rivers played with a lot of heart. Hats off to NE and Brady...that defense won this game for them!

Can Eli win the big game? NY played them tough in the season finale...but gotta wonder if they can do it? He only has one real go to receiver (Burress)...he's got to be able to get Boss involved and get the RB's catching passes out of the backfield! (edit) Eli did show today that he still has problems managing the clock...that can't happen in the Superbowl!

edit: I will say this (mainly to Samy). Coughlin looks mighty smart for playing his starters in that finale now. He knows they can play NE tough and can win the game...more importantly the players know that they can win it. I admit when I am wrong Samy!

[ja_Patriot]

Can Eli win the big game? NY played them tough in the season finale...but gotta wonder if they can do it? He only has one real go to receiver (Burress)...he's got to be able to get Boss involved and get the RB's catching passes out of the backfield!



NE is formidable, but Big G is playing with confidence. It's not just Eli & Paxibo the Pats have to reckon with. The Blues are running with Jacobs & Brawshaw & passing with Burress, Toomer & hopefully Boss & Smith. Plus the foot of Tynes. After passing thru the Packs & Lambeau Field, Glendale AZ with be like an business outing in the Caribbean, IMHO. Hope to watch a competitive & interesting SB XLII.

[DoctorP]

NE is formidable, but Big G is playing with confidence. It's not just Eli & Paxibo the Pats have to reckon with. The Blues are running with Jacobs & Brawshaw & passing with Burress, Toomer & hopefully Boss & Smith. Plus the foot of Tynes. After passing thru the Packs & Lambeau Field, Glendale AZ with be like an business outing in the Caribbean, IMHO. Hope to watch a competitive & interesting SB XLII.

Smith really stepped it up today, that's true! As for the nice warm temps in Arizona...I see a lot of cramping happening in the SB! The Giants would be wise to go to Florida or Louisianna to train for the next two weeks to prepare for the game!

[InFaMoUs]

18-0, one more win to go!!!! I dont think Brady is going to let them lose this game.

[Muku]

I dont think Favre should come back, he had a great season, but I really doubt GB will be back to the championship next season. I will say though, Favre had some great passes and he was mobile enough to get away from some pressure, so who knows.....
Well nobody at the begining of this year expected anything at all from the Green Bay Packers. If I remember correctly some of the "so called" experts predicted them to probably finish in the basement ofthe division.:rolleyes: One never knows...who would have expected the Bears to play the way they did either, they were the odds on favorites to win the division at the begining.

Another thing, Green Bay has one of the youngest teams in the entire NFL, they have a few holes to fill like any other team. The defense will get better with the experience and the linbacking core along with the defensive line are very strong. The secondary has some gaps to fill but like them or not Harris and Woodson are pretty damn good. GB plays tough D and that should be the same next year.

The offense got lucky this year with Ron Gant at running back. However the front office has a pretty good knack for finding players that didnt make it elsewhere and utilizing them in the GB way of doing things. How many people remember Ahmand Green now? Sure there is always the question about Farve, but this year outside of a few bad games played extrememly well. He had one of his best seasons statistically and for the most part played the system that the headcoach installed.

I bet he was tired, along with the players on both sides of the ball, sure he responsible for the int. Yet looking the the season overall and not just this game Green Bay is fortunate to have Farve in their backfield.

Aaron Rodgers was drafted to be his successor and someday I think he will be. Hell just because he has been in the league for 4 years doesnt mean he cant do it, think about who he is playing behind. GB got lucky to get Rodgers where they did in the draft. I think that eventually he will get his chance. GB however lives and dies with Farve, and in someways that is part of his appeal. Noone from what I have ever heard or read about Bret ever questions his desire or his love for the game. He typifies Green Bay Packer football and it's history. The great years along with the crappy one's. Naysayers will look to this game and use it as an excuse to say he is finished, I disagree, it's just one game from many, sure it wasthe NFC Championship, but he did leadthem through the season very well, and even received one vote for MVP. That says a lot about "what's" left in the guy.


Yet GB should never have been in the situation in the first place. They may have a better team than the Giants, just as I thought that the Cowboys were the better team as well, even though I bet against them. Yet kudos to the Giants for playing a better game. They won it and I wish them well against the Patriots.

I am not betting against the Patriots, but I would love to see the Giants take it all.

[DoctorP]

Aaron Rodgers was drafted to be his successor and someday I think he will be. Hell just because he has been in the league for 4 years doesnt mean he cant do it, think about who he is playing behind. GB got lucky to get Rodgers where they did in the draft. I think that eventually he will get his chance.

Wow...Steve Young comes to mind when I read this!

[Muku]

Wow...Steve Young comes to mind when I read this!
When and if Rodgers does get his chance if he plays like Steve Young did GB will be in great shape for years to come.....keeping my fingers crossed here!

[atb35]

I guess i dont know much about football because I keep hearing people mention Eli didnt control the clock well. He got them into fieldgoal position with plenty of time on the clock, waited until a few secs to go and spiked the ball....what should he have done? They werent looking to get in the endzone, with those conditions, everyplay was a potential turnover, why risk it once your in fieldgoal range? How many overtime games does a team march all the way to the endzone? Most of the time they get into easy FG range then kick it.

I dont believe the Patriots are going to lose, but I give the Giants more credit then most. Burress is not Eli's only weapon. He didnt even have a TD yesterday. Yes, he had a hell of a game with 11 catches, but if a guy is open, why not throw to him? He schooled Al Harris because he is a top WR, and Eli utilized that. The other games Toomer was a huge factor, Burress had i think six catches total in the first two playoff games. He is finally learning to use ALL his weapons, and that is why the Giants are playing such good, mistake-free football.

[DoctorP]

I guess i dont know much about football because I keep hearing people mention Eli didnt control the clock well. He got them into fieldgoal position with plenty of time on the clock, waited until a few secs to go and spiked the ball....what should he have done? They werent looking to get in the endzone, with those conditions, everyplay was a potential turnover, why risk it once your in fieldgoal range? How many overtime games does a team march all the way to the endzone? Most of the time they get into easy FG range then kick it.


Let's break it down. Eli wasted 3 timeouts. One in the first half, by not getting the team to the line in time and two in the 2nd half for the same reason. One of them on the final drive. You have a kicker that missed one FG already and you are trying to win the game. You want to get as close as possible. They started with 48 seconds left...somewhere around the 45 or 50 yard line. Yes he moved them down, but he could have been much closer if he had paid attention and managed the clock better.

Oh...and Eli didn't put them in position to win the game, Webster did that with the INT and the run back!

[atb35]

Well the QB always gets the blame for delay of game saving timeouts...so I wont even try to argue that. Along with that blame, they are deserving of the credit for giving their teams a chance to win. Although Webster did get the INT, did it really matter? The entire 2nd half and the first couple downs of OT GB didnt move the ball, NY drove the field each time....chances are, they would have done it again...

[ja_Patriot]

A breakaway TD was recalled because of a holding flag. A field goal was botched by a high snap. In the end, the Giants had more scoring chances.The QB had no INTS and took care of the ball. GB had 2 and couldn't convert 3rd downs. Breaks of the game. The game in Glendale will show the proven QB vs. the surprisingly maturing one. Place your bets! Should be a good game.

[DoctorP]

I see a lot of cramping happening in the SB...these teams have been playing in the cold, I think Glendale heat will get to many of them!

[ja_Patriot]

Brady's minor injury? Will it make a difference?

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/01/23/bradys_injury_minor/

[TheLastDon]

I think it's just a publicity stunt... naww NE is not that devious.

[DoctorP]

ja...I chalk that up to Belichek playing games. I don't think his injury is anything major at all...I think they are playing mind games...why else would he allow himself to be spotted in NY?

[ja_Patriot]

Yeah, the disciple of Big Tuna, who outdid the "master". The first of mind games to be expected...

[atb35]

So what are all your plans for the Super Bowl? I know I cant wait to watch it, Im especially looking forward to the commercials...I mean, I cant wait to find out what happens to Timmys chair next!!

I need to find a good place to watch this game, Im sure there will be plenty of places onbase showing it and all, just need to figure out the best one.

[DoctorP]

You can watch it at my place...brand spankin' new TV is just waiting for the big game!

[ja_Patriot]

Super Bowl Sunday is on at 8:30 a.m. on a Monday on your way to work, unless you're lucky enough to take the day off or do the night shift or run your own business or live in the states or watch tv at work. :argh14::(

[Fonze]

So what are all your plans for the Super Bowl? I know I cant wait to watch it, Im especially looking forward to the commercials...I mean, I cant wait to find out what happens to Timmys chair next!!

I need to find a good place to watch this game, Im sure there will be plenty of places onbase showing it and all, just need to figure out the best one.

Sory atb but AFN doesn't allow commercials. You'll have to see them online later.

[DoctorP]

Sory atb but AFN doesn't allow commercials. You'll have to see them online later.

He's talking about the AFN spots...Timmy is actually kinda funny!

[atb35]

Oh, I was being sarcastic with the retarded AFN commercials.

[DoctorP]

Betting pool has been settled and payouts made. Who won besides me?

[mikersoft]

Check out the Superbowl commercials here --> http://youtube.com/adblitz

I like the two E*trade commercials...:D

-Mike

[socalheart]

I won some cred$! :D that was a really good superbowl game. :thumbup:

[Fonze]

Damn thats alot of people. I still cant believe more people watched mash and at a dif point in time.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3229763&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

NEW YORK -- The 97.5 million viewers who saw the New York Giants' last-minute win over the New England Patriots made it the most-watched Super Bowl ever and second biggest event in American television history.

Under Watchful Eyes

The AC Nielsen numbers are in, and in terms of viewership, Giants-Patriots was the M*A*S*H finale of Super Bowls. The best of the most-watched matchups:

Most viewers, Super Bowl history Millions
XLII (2008) Giants-Patriots 97.5
XXX (1996) Cowboys-Steelers 94.08
XLI (2007) Colts-Bears 93.18
XX (1986) Bears-Patriots 92.57
XXVII (1993) Cowboys-Bills 90.99

Only the "MASH" series finale in 1983, with 106 million viewers,

[atb35]

what makes MASH even more impressive is the fact it was like 20 years ago...nowhere near the number of homes/tvs/media outlets they have now.

That game was amazing though...best one I have ever seen.

[Fonze]

thats exactly what i was thinking.

[Fonze]

I was watching TV and was wondering who was that that got an unsportmanship flag at the end.

And on other NFL news Congrats Vick i bet the team is mad and will appeal.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3229782&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

MINNEAPOLIS -- Jailed quarterback Michael Vick can keep all but $3.75 million of the nearly $20 million in bonus money he received from the Atlanta Falcons following a ruling Monday by a federal judge.




Inside The Vick Ruling

• Barring a successful appeal, Michael Vick can keep all but $3.75 million of the nearly $20 million in bonus money he received from the Atlanta Falcons.

• Under the NFL players' contract, as interpreted by U.S. District Judge David Doty, teams can't recover roster bonus money, because a player earns it when they make the roster. However, they can recover signing bonus money because that's governed by separate rules.

• The case was argued in Minneapolis because Doty has handled cases involving the NFL's collective bargaining agreement for nearly 20 years.

The Falcons sought to recover the bonuses after Vick pleaded guilty to federal charges in a dogfighting operation. The bonuses were paid from 2004-07.



A special master ruled in October the Falcons were entitled to recover the bonuses. The Falcons argued Vick used proceeds from a contract he signed in 2004 to finance his illicit activities.


The NFL Players Association had asked a federal judge to overturn the special master's decision that Vick should forfeit the bonus money because of his guilty plea.


But U.S. District Judge David Doty of Minneapolis ruled that recovery of most of the bonus money by the Falcons would violate the NFL collective bargaining agreement. The agreement does not allow roster bonus money to be forfeited once it's been earned, the judge wrote.


Doty, who has handled cases involving the collective bargaining agreement for nearly 20 years, compared interpreting the relevant section of the contract to "alchemy" late last year.


The NFL criticized Doty's ruling. The league has suspended Vick indefinitely without pay.



"It makes no sense that an individual who willfully violates his contract is entitled to be paid tens of millions of dollars even though he is in jail and providing no services whatsoever to his employer," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement.



Vick's personal attorney, Lawrence Woodward Jr., said Vick was happy with the ruling but understands there could be appeals.



"He's grateful for some good news, but he realizes he needs to keep doing all the right things to get back to playing football," Woodward said.



At a November hearing, union attorney Jeffrey Kessler contended Vick's "roster bonus" should be treated the same as a "performance bonus," which can't be forfeited under the agreement. The league maintained the roster bonus should be treated like a "signing bonus allocation," which could be forfeited.



Doty ruled that once Vick made the Falcons' 80-man roster, he earned the bonus money and the team cannot demand forfeiture. However, he wrote, the Falcons can recover $3.75 million of his 2006 signing bonus, which is governed by other rules and is something the union did not challenge.



Kessler welcomed the decision.



"The Players Association is obviously delighted with the result," Kessler said. "It vindicates our view that a clear deal was made, that once players earn their compensation, that it is no longer subject to being taken back."



While the distinction about whether Vick's roster bonuses were guaranteed or not guaranteed may be important for salary cap purposes, Doty wrote, "it does not dictate the outcome in a forfeiture context."



Any money recovered would be credited to Atlanta's future salary cap.



Doty also ruled that the Falcons may not use state law, even in a grievance procedure, to try to recoup Vick's bonus money.



Atlanta Falcons president Rich McKay issued a statement saying the team is disappointed with the ruling, but that it won't affect the Falcons' salary cap for the 2008 season.



"Any potential recovery would have only affected our 2009 salary cap," McKay said. "As to our future legal strategies, we will meet with our legal representatives to more fully understand our options before making that determination."



Vick received a 23-month jail sentence. He entered a minimum-security prison in Leavenworth, Kan., last month.