View Full Version : Is ripping your own CD's to your own computer illeagle?
Boost
01-01-2008, 06:29 AM
According to one lawyer for the RIAA, it is and that you could be sued for thousands of dollars, even if you have never once illegally downloaded MP3's from the internet.
That's because at least one lawyer (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,319276,00.html) for the Recording Industry Association of America, the Big Four record companies' lobbying arm and primary legal weapon, considers the copying of songs from your own CDs to your own computer (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,319276,00.html#), for your own personal use, to be just as illegal as posting them online for all to share, according to a federal lawsuit filed in Arizona.
So what do you think?
IMHO this is going to far. I can understand them having issues with those who rip cd's and then make the MP3's available for download, but there is no reason I shouldn't be allowed to rip my cd's to put onto my mp3 player.
Tempestuous
01-01-2008, 06:49 AM
No, you have to buy the CD for your CD players and then buy each track you like at an additional charge so they make more money.
Mind you the primary provider for legal sharing is iTunes, means you would also have to buy an iPod (:D HAHAHAHAHA)
Naw, I think there MIGHT be other legal providers, just had to throw that in there to bug you.
Boost
01-01-2008, 06:55 AM
Mind you the primary provider for legal sharing is iTunes, means you would also have to buy an iPod (:D HAHAHAHAHA)
Death to icrap! :88:
Naw, I think there MIGHT be other legal providers,
Yes there are, Napster just to name one of em. ;)
just had to throw that in there to bug you.
I am sooooo reporting you for harassment! :)
ststephen65
01-01-2008, 07:58 AM
i havnt paid for music since ive had the internet 7 yrs ago.
hankypanky
01-01-2008, 01:37 PM
many don't like the idea of posting tunes on the internet, but many young bands have gotten there start from free publicity. of course if i were a pro entertainer, i would be a little pissed of the missed funds that are not coming in due to illegal sharing, but how do you stop it? i have read that in the future, all tunes will be encoded to follow their track, if bought, no problem, but if someone has a tune on their computer that can be tracked through this encoding process, the record companies will have alot more ammo to take you to court.
DougP
01-01-2008, 02:10 PM
I guess its a good thing music today is a bunch of crap. Its keeps me from doing something illegal. Mainly because I wouldn't want to waste any bandwidth downloading the shit they pass off as music these days:D
Tempestuous
01-01-2008, 02:46 PM
I don't think the issue he is discussing in the OP is the downloading music but more that recording your cd you bought at the store and YOU choose to put on your Mp3 player or computer the tracks from the CD you BOUGHT already could be deemed illegal if this case ruling comes across.....even though you already paid for it for your own personal enjoyment. :(
DougP
01-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Yeah I think it is going a bit to far. Next thing you know you wont be allowed to listen to the CD more than once. Oh and no skipping tracks.:)
Tempestuous
01-01-2008, 02:55 PM
bout right, there!!!! Forecasting the future dude!!!
Bones
01-03-2008, 05:58 PM
Just type "pcmag.com" (without quotation marks) into your browsers address bar, and read John C. Dvoraks' article: "RIAA Goes after "Personal Use" Doctrine.
Perhaps you'll get a better understanding of how deeply this will impact your personal habits. You just might be surprised.:cool:
NBTP
Isnt it the same as trying to copy a rented DVD Movie as well? I cant blame the artists for wanting royalties for their work, however on the other hand I dont want to pay an arm and a leg for music either.
Also dont cd's from rental shops have copy protect on them, so you cant copy a rented cd?
DoctorP
01-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Isnt it the same as trying to copy a rented DVD Movie as well? I cant blame the artists for wanting royalties for their work, however on the other hand I dont want to pay an arm and a leg for music either.
Also dont cd's from rental shops have copy protect on them, so you cant copy a rented cd?
That's not always the case. I've used a rental shop cd when I only needed one track, and not the entire cd.
DocTurtle
01-03-2008, 07:39 PM
IMO, music was meant to be free. If you make a little money off of it via shows, gigs, etc, then great on you. But you can't put a price on music. It's just wrong. As for the CD thing...if you bought it...and the CD gets lost or destroyed then I think you have every right to d/led it. You've paid for the service, why should you have to do it again? As for burning it to your own computer...why else would they have the rip option on every default player out there?
Bones
01-03-2008, 07:48 PM
Still don't think that anybody out there read the article that I've pointed you to. It concerns not only ripping movies, but if the RIAA wins this one, it could have a huge impact on everything that we do these days. For example, people normally cut and paste parts of articles that they've read elsewhere, into discussion threads. It's not legal without consent, if it is copyrighted material.
Next, they might go after everyone who has ever used a copy machine (VCR, CD\DVD, tape recorder, etc...)
And everyone will have to pay.
NBTP
DocTurtle
01-03-2008, 09:37 PM
:rolleyes:It's overboard. Might as well do it for copy machines in the work place then. I don't want my hand writing copied! It's mine! Next thing we are going to have to pay out royalties to use fonts on the computer...not to mention the Arabic numbering system! Every time you count to 10 you owe someone!:rolleyes:
Still don't think that anybody out there read the article that I've pointed you to. It concerns not only ripping movies, but if the RIAA wins this one, it could have a huge impact on everything that we do these days. For example, people normally cut and paste parts of articles that they've read elsewhere, into discussion threads. It's not legal without consent, if it is copyrighted material.
Next, they might go after everyone who has ever used a copy machine (VCR, CDDVD, tape recorder, etc...)
And everyone will have to pay.
NBTP
I read the article you linked to, however I have a hard time understanding or knowing where would it end? Ok music, next video, printed material, something anyone said in a speech....where does a copyright end?
Plus with the internet, and the availability of computers where do "property" rights start or end?
On a smaller note here for example only....I technically "own" the rights to this post that I made. If you or anyone were to quote it wouldn't I be eligible for "royalties" because you, as in anyone, is copying my material?
DoctorP
01-03-2008, 11:01 PM
If they go this far, then I expect the government to pay me anytime they need a copy of anything with my information or my signature on it.
That would also mean that should I be sued by the RIAA, then they would need to pay me (as well as the courts) in order to get my siggy on the documents after the settlement!
If they go this far, then I expect the government to pay me anytime they need a copy of anything with my information or my signature on it.
That would also mean that should I be sued by the RIAA, then they would need to pay me (as well as the courts) in order to get my siggy on the documents after the settlement!
That seems to me to be the problem now with intellectual property rights. There is no end to what can be considered what a person "owns".
DoctorP
01-03-2008, 11:11 PM
It is pretty obvious that I own my signature.
It is pretty obvious that I own my signature.
True enough, I can not remember the case exactly but I seem to remember that there was something somewhere where someone actually lost the right to use their own name in regards to their business. I know it isnt a signature.
DoctorP
01-03-2008, 11:17 PM
True enough, I can not remember the case exactly but I seem to remember that there was something somewhere where someone actually lost the right to use their own name in regards to their business. I know it isnt a signature.
You're bringing up a whole new subject. Once a business goes public, there are other things to consider. I could see where perhaps someone like Pdiddy could lose his signature if it were say SeanJean, being that he named his company that.
You're bringing up a whole new subject. Once a business goes public, there are other things to consider. I could see where perhaps someone like Pdiddy could lose his signature if it were say SeanJean, being that he named his company that.
Quite right....sorry about that.
Disregard my previous post please, at least everything after the "True enough".....:o
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