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TheNoNamedOne
12-27-2007, 12:04 AM
From another thread a member brought up a good point to consider:

Here we go......here's the part where he[TheProsecutor] slowly creeps to the assertion that parents shouldn't be able to teach their kids about God.

Not at all. All parents should be able to indulge their kids in a little make believe like the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, Unicorns, Leppercahns, Sky fairies, Sky Gods etc... And, indeed many do. However, just like eventually crushing their belief about Santa Clause (usually between 8~10 years old) after realizing his feats are physically impossible, parents should dutifully lay to rest all the other nonesense make believe lies they tell them. As responsible parents, it is their duty to send their kids out into the real world with a solid grip on reality.

But to no avail, some Christian parents shamelessly lock that viral meme onto their child's mind like a vice grip with some good ol' fashion fun at Jesus Camp:

YouTube - A Nation down the Drain ( Jesus Camp ) part 1

TheNoNamedOne
12-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Look at these mentally disturbed children. And as Ted Haggard who makes a small bit appearance in the video declares, like in a McD's commercial, "They're lovin' it."

Yeah, right. Can you say "Invasion of the mind snatchers"?

YouTube - A Nation down the Drain ( Jesus Camp ) part 2

DougP
12-27-2007, 12:52 AM
Pure insanity. I don't know how anyone can say other wise. Wow... I'd say I was speechless but I've seen this kind of crap in real life.

okisteve
12-27-2007, 08:14 AM
I'm really scared. Never heard of that sort of stuff going on. What's the difference between that and the Muslim madrassas that are prep schools for terrorists?

Asshat
12-27-2007, 08:41 AM
I'm really scared. Never heard of that sort of stuff going on. What's the difference between that and the Muslim madrassas that are prep schools for terrorists?

Absolutely none, except that the Christians are more zealous in their fomenting than Muslims are. The Madras are limited to SA, and are not seen in other Muslim countries. Nor are Sharia idiologies.

okisteve
12-27-2007, 08:44 AM
I think the Saudis have funded madrassas to teach the Wahhabi ideology in many countries. Wasn't there some talk a few years ago about paying Musharraf to shut them down in Pakistan?

Asshat
12-27-2007, 08:59 AM
I think the Saudis have funded madrassas to teach the Wahhabi ideology in many countries. Wasn't there some talk a few years ago about paying Musharraf to shut them down in Pakistan?

Yep. But SA and Afghanistan are hardly the bulk of countries whose denizens embrace Islam. This topic is interesting, because it is our oil dependence which is funding these.

Yet after travelling throughout Islamic Asia, I saw none of the things purported to occur in the Middle East. The antithesis in fact.

I tend to bristle quickly when I see Muslims being painted with the terrorist brush. Christians infiltering the US Government concern me much more, because it is a direct attack on our Government infrastructure, not an attack on buildings or people.

okisteve
12-27-2007, 09:04 AM
Yep. But SA and Afghanistan are hardly the bulk of countries whose denizens embrace Islam. This topic is interesting, because it is our oil dependence which is funding these.

Yet after travelling throughout Islamic Asia, I saw none of the things purported to occur in the Middle East. The antithesis in fact.

I tend to bristle quickly when I see Muslims being painted with the terrorist brush. Christians infiltering the US Government concern me much more, because it is a direct attack on our Government infrastructure, not an attack on buildings or people.

Full agreement here! I also spent a lot of time in west Asia but that actually was before the current phase of the islamist movement was really noticeable.

And then there are majority-Muslim countries where everyone is still living peacefully, like Indonesia and most of West Africa. Maybe it's all about humidity, good beaches, and weed.

Asshat
12-27-2007, 09:17 AM
Full agreement here! I also spent a lot of time in west Asia but that actually was before the current phase of the islamist movement was really noticeable.

And then there are majority-Muslim countries where everyone is still living peacefully, like Indonesia and most of West Africa. Maybe it's all about humidity, good beaches, and weed.

I recently spent a bit of time in Malaysia. I went by myself with no adgenda, just flew in to KL to sort of look around.

Long story but I ended up being befriended by a very large and very Muslim family. We went to the jungle where some of them lived. Very Muslim. Couldn't find beer. All women covered, but showing their faces. But at home, the women took off their stuff and wore regular clothing.

Anyway, I was very impressed by the sense of love and family values, the happiness of the people. If there was a positive missionary work for Islam, it was there. Completely non-violent people.

I think you are correct in stating envirnonment is reflected- and I'll go a step further and state that inherent social values play the single, largest role in determining the "wing nut factor" of a particular group idiology.

Yet we have Cletus in Anywhere, USA foaming at the mouth to kill all of them because God and George Bush said they wuz evil heathens.

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P_chan
12-27-2007, 05:02 PM
I didn't know nestle made holy water? I'd call these people nut jobs but someone might take offense:D

Seriously though, this would have to be the extreme. To see how close minded and pig headed some people are....it just boggles the mind. I feel sorry for those kids never getting to experience anything but what they were brainwashed into believing as a child.