Why no medical thread?

[Fonze]

Why not have a medical thread people can discuss news and stuff?

[TheLastDon]

Anybody have somme viagra I can borrow?:rolleyes::D

[Fonze]

Anybody have somme viagra I can borrow?:rolleyes::D

Call Rush.:thumbup: He has suitcases of the stuff.

[okisteve]

Good idea - Let's make this the medical thread. Best if it's all in one place, like a First Aid kit.

[okisteve]

Anybody have somme viagra I can borrow?:rolleyes::D

"borrow", as in "return" some time?

[okisteve]

I've seen a few references to using painkillers here. I feel for the people who have been banged around physically, and I have no judgements about painkillers or addiction to them (except for Rush:rolleyes: - he's a hardcore criminal!:thumbup1:). They are truly wonderful medicines.

But there are good alternatives, or things you can do alongside. I have my share of aches and pains, bad back etc. (even wrist tendonitis from excessive mousing) and was lucky to get referred to the physiotherapy department at Okinawa Central Hospital in Naha. I would imagine that most hospitals have the same kind of facility. They are professionals, really care about patients, and with Japanese insurance a 30-minute session costs all of 2-300 yen.

I'm sure lots of you have tried it, or had it at the USNH here. You need to go back for many treatments sometimes, so it takes time and transportation, but it usually ends up as a permanent cure. Also, a regular stretching routine has helped me a lot over the last few years. I'm more flexible and painfree than ever, although not close to as flexible as the Okinawan oldies who I see in the gym.

[Asshat]

Physiotherapy is offered at all base hospitals. For some of us, it is fairly useless-unless the pain is muscle related. The USNH did have a pain management section for awhile, but again, you can only get so many steroid shots.

Any of the opiates have bad side-effects. I was on those for awhile, but the depression they cause isn't worth it. Analgesics are a joke, and then there are the neuron blockers. Some make you emotional, others have other side effects.

After all these years, I am relegated to constant pain, and though I am used to always being in pain, the two things that really bug me is not being able to do things I love to do, and the depression that constant pain causes. The later is the really tricky one to deal with.

Long term nerve damage- a constant charlie horse. Frikken blows.

[Fonze]

If I may, What happened uminchu to you that you suffer from this?

[Asshat]

If I may, What happened uminchu to you that you suffer from this?

A couple of motorcycle crashes, (one pretty serious) and a career of running with broken bones. Many surgeries later, I am almost 100% disabled, take handfulls of pills each morning, yet hold a full time job, party, and sometimes get lucky.

When I was younger, I lived a hard life. Being older now and not able to do what I used to do is so frikken much of a downer that I have a hard time dealing with it. But: I am seeing wounded vets coming from Iraq with missing body parts, or dead. I can't feel sorry for myself, I refuse the disabled parking sticker, and count myself lucky that all I have is pain and a limp.

[okisteve]

I hear ya' Uminchu. Bummer all that.

I have had acupuncture about 20 times in my life and I would say it is about 75% effective. It works by blocking nerve conduction (I think...) so it might be helpful. The needles are so thin you can hardly feel them, although once in a while they'll actually touch a nerve and then :cursing:

[Fonze]

Sorry to hear all that but glad to hear your still scoring.

I was brought up not really believing in western medicine so I have never took any. My sis took anti-depressants and got really wierd so my mom made her stop taking them. My dad does take meds for his diabetes though.

My question is why are all these meds, with the advance science, always have so many bad side affects?

[okisteve]

Sorry to hear all that but glad to hear your still scoring.

Hey - No fair. I am "officially disabled", but nobody ever comes on to me? :old:

My question is why are all these meds, with the advance science, always have so many bad side affects?

Fonze, it is amazing enough that a chemical substance can target one specific bacteria, virus, or protein receptor. Finding ones or modifying them to NOT attack other sites in the body at the same time is really difficult.

We've advanced a long way though. For example, until about 80 years ago mercury pills were prescribed for a range of ailments They cured a lot of them but eventually killed the patients.

[Asshat]

There are other natural pain relievers out there, but our government deems them illegal, and incarcerates us with armed robbers and murderers for their use.

Side effects are much less severe than legal booze or tobacco.

[okisteve]

I think I get your point. I once had 3 wisdom teeth extracted on the same day and found the natural stuff worked much better than the pills. Luckily we're not "there" now, but what about the Japanese LE?

[Fonze]

Do you speak of cocaine and Marijuana? I think they should be allowed more freely.

[Oxmix]

Heres my contribution to the new medical thread :D

YouTube - Cialis Commercial

Regards

Ox

[Oxmix]

Physiotherapy is offered at all base hospitals. For some of us, it is fairly useless-unless the pain is muscle related. The USNH did have a pain management section for awhile, but again, you can only get so many steroid shots.

Any of the opiates have bad side-effects. I was on those for awhile, but the depression they cause isn't worth it. Analgesics are a joke, and then there are the neuron blockers. Some make you emotional, others have other side effects.

After all these years, I am relegated to constant pain, and though I am used to always being in pain, the two things that really bug me is not being able to do things I love to do, and the depression that constant pain causes. The later is the really tricky one to deal with.

Long term nerve damage- a constant charlie horse. Frikken blows.

So,have you tried acupuncture?

Regards

Ox

[Oxmix]

The needles are so thin you can hardly feel them, although once in a while they'll actually touch a nerve and then :cursing:

I know what you mean.

Regards

Ox

[Asshat]

No I haven't, and I suspect I could get temporary relief from it, but would have to keep going.

[socalheart]

My husband has gone to APU at Lester, but that worked for about three days. He was in more pain from the shot than his original pain. His back is in really bad shape. He's willing to try acupuncture, but we don't know of anywhere that does it. Please recommend a place you are familiar with if possible. Thank you.

[okisteve]

If he can come to Naha, there is the Hiro Clinic right next to Okinawa Central Hospital, near the Civic Hall and Prefectural library. I had a couple of weeks worth there and they are excellent. One of their acupuncturists is blind and works by touch!

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

Acupuncture is is like many Chinese medical treatments - slow, but relatively free of side-effects and generally effective for chronic conditions. It is not magic...one must receive regular treatments until the condition gradually improves enough to allow somewhat normal function again. Western medicine excels in treating acute conditions; our emergency medicine cannot be beat. It is somewhat lacking in palliative care, however.