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[Fonze]

Im still going to post my deleted post as soon as i fine tune it.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Im still going to post my deleted post as soon as i fine tune it.

Be sure to scrub it very well because if it is antagonizing or insulting or inferring some of the things you said before, it will be deleted again.

[Muku]

Im still going to post my deleted post as soon as i fine tune it.

I understand the who what where when and why......and I wouldn't blame you if you did.

One question though....consider this a friendly bribe here:D.


How many credits would it take for you not to post it?:D

[Fonze]

Damn you Muku.

Alright i wont post it at all for a cool Million.

Unless some ask for the PM which if anyone does it will be okisteve. Cause the other member already read it and TP i did not insult you dude.

[Fonze]

TP if you delete antagonizing post that would be half of your post right there.


True or not everybody?

[Muku]

Damn you Muku.

Alright i wont post it at all for a cool Million.

Unless some ask for the PM which if anyone does it will be okisteve. Cause the other member already read it and TP i did not insult you dude.
I will give it to you as soon as my son makes it up to 6 or 7 mill.

Fair enough?

[Fonze]

Hey dk is back. Apparently im blowing you for leeway dude, but if i remember correctly you were blowing me:D

[TheNoNamedOne]

TP if you delete antagonizing post that would be half of your post right there.


True or not everybody?

lol. Well, dk moderates the mods.

I think there is a difference between personal antagonizing and posting provocative and controversial topics for discussion. Perhaps you are indirectly accusing dk of not being a good admin with regards to moderating his mods.

Do you think, "Was Jesus a fraud?" antagonizing? I imagine some Christians feel such a question is insulting to insinuate such. Or is this the fuzzy fuzzy feel good channel when it comes to topic discussions?

[dk]

Hey dk is back. Apparently im blowing you for leeway dude, but if i remember correctly you were blowing me:D
I just woke up from a nap (exhausted) and am checking in to see that the forum is still in one piece.

Good. It is.

Now I have to go type a 12 page paper.

Laters.

[Fonze]

I did a bit but knew nothing was going to happen plus doug doesn't come off like you as a know it all, his questions are more question like unlike yours of you know it cause you say so.

As far as dk goes i believe there is nothing you can do to get in trouble because of a friendship you hold, all which is fine.

TP you damn well know whore is offensive and could have said something else.


I have no problem with questioning of faith at all, whatsoever. But you need to remember that just cause you dont believe it does not mean you can insult it the way you do. Remember there are many who do believe in a god and see it as offensive. I think if you were to change it you would see what an olive branch you extend to some here.

[Fonze]

I just woke up from a nap (exhausted) and am checking in to see that the forum is still in one piece.

Good. It is.

Now I have to go type a 12 page paper.

Laters.

Good luck and god speed.

[Fonze]

I will give it to you as soon as my son makes it up to 6 or 7 mill.

Fair enough?

Sure you will:rolleyes: . Thats cool but you dont need to give me that much, maybe just half a mil.

[DougP]

Do you think, "Was Jesus a fraud?" antagonizing? I imagine some Christians feel such a question is insulting to insinuate such. Or is this the fuzzy fuzzy feel good channel when it comes to topic discussions?

Oh nuts:ohmy:

[Muku]

Sure you will:rolleyes: . Thats cool but you dont need to give me that much, maybe just half a mil.
Ok here you are 500,000:rolleyes::D

[TheNoNamedOne]

As far as dk goes i believe there is nothing you can do to get in trouble because of a friendship you hold, all which is fine.

Thing is fonze, after the last JU meet dk seems to consider all of you who attended as friends -- you included. All I am saying is, you have to tone it down some. As far as being friends with dk we have had our disagreements, in the open on the forums and in the mod room. We've been very candid with one another in some of our posts.

TP you damn well know whore is offensive and could have said something else.

It is to some to question a public historical figure, but to some not so. Satire and parody are often bitingly harsh on public figures and rightfully so, that is why when starting a topic one could make a satire on PETA president Ingrid Newkirk as well and in the OP post a PETA kills picture spelled out in dead rabbits. Would you say that, too should not be permitted because it offends me and my group? I find referring to ARists as nut jobs offensive. Are you willing to support not letting that, too? I respect PETA a lot, but what if someone wants to post People Eating Tasty Animals? Should that be allowed? After all it is offensive to me?

How about if I had posted it like this?: Was Jesus a bastard?

Google that phrase and you will see that has been a question posed for a long time, by scholars as well over the years. Why is whore and bastard any worse than fraud when speaking of icons that are supposed to be pure and pious?

Still, though, what about all my feelings for animals and animal rights that some have seen fit to disparage here? Why haven't I tried to make a rule or policy those things should also be protected? I am pretty fair in wanting all topics in public domain to be treated equal for discussion.

[ja_Patriot]

So that's what happened.

I'll buy you a couple of cold ones in the next meet Fonze. We've already seen the post.

You are the most remarkably honest poster in this forum, real straight shooter.

Stay cool!

Muku, good job on this!

[DoctorP]

It is to some to question a public historical figure, but to some not so. Satire and parody are often bitingly harsh on public figures and rightfully so, that is why when starting a topic one could make a satire on PETA president Ingrid Newkirk as well and in the OP post a PETA kills picture spelled out in dead rabbits. Would you say that, too should not be permitted because it offends me and my group? I find referring to ARists as nut jobs offensive. Are you willing to support not letting that, too? I respect PETA a lot, but what if someone wants to post People Eating Tasty Animals? Should that be allowed? After all it is offensive to me?

How about if I had posted it like this?: Was Jesus a bastard?

Google that phrase and you will see that has been a question posed for a long time, by scholars as well over the years. Why is whore and bastard any worse than fraud when speaking of icons that are supposed to be pure and pious?

Still, though, what about all my feelings for animals and animal rights that some have seen fit to disparage here? Why haven't I tried to make a rule or policy those things should also be protected? I am pretty fair in wanting all topics in public domain to be treated equal for discussion.

I'm going to hate myself for starting this up...but here goes.

How can you say that whore is not offensive, then get offended by the use of the word elsewhere?:cool:

[kombu_kid]

Is this hilarious, or is it just me?

And after saying what you said about the mother of Jesus......with zero evidence, YOU demand respect.

Oh, I forgot.....parsimony, parsimony.

*somebody, slap some sense into me for replying to this garbage*

I knew this subject rang a bell.

[TheNoNamedOne]

I'm going to hate myself for starting this up...but here goes.

How can you say that whore is not offensive, then get offended by the use of the word elsewhere?:cool:

Historical figures not even validated by history to be true persons i.e. possibly fictional, in the public domain are not the same as personal real people here and now. Why is whore anymore offensive than bastard or fraud when examining historical figures?

Would this be wrong to discuss?: Was Pope Claudius a bastard son?

How about: Was Thomas Jefferson a rapist of his slaves?

When there is circumstantial evidence whether hard evidence or evidence from probability and deduction, there is no foul -- the points are really there to examine? And besides, there are scholars who believe that Mary Magdalene and Mary are the same Mary and even in the Bible Mary Magdalene is referred to as The Great Whore of Babylon. The connection is there to question, and so is the scholarship. It is just there. Can't be denied. Not saying that scholarship makes it so, but it is there and has already been questioned.

[DoctorP]

Historical figures not even validated by history to be true persons i.e. possibly fictional, in the public domain are not the same as personal real people here and now. Why is whore anymore offensive than bastard or fraud when examining historical figures?

Would this be wrong to discuss?: Was Pope Claudius a bastard son?

How about: Was Thomas Jefferson a rapist of his slaves?

When there is circumstantial evidence whether hard evidence or evidence from probability and deduction, there is no foul -- the points are really there to examine? And besides, there are scholars who believe that Mary Magdalene and Mary are the same Mary and even in the Bible Mary Magdalene is referred to as The Great Whore of Babylon. The connection is there to question, and so is the scholarship. It is just there. Can't be denied. Not saying that scholarship makes it so, but it is there and has already been questioned.


Let me understand you correctly...are you saying that now you believe what you read in the Bible?

[TheNoNamedOne]

Let me understand you correctly...are you saying that now you believe what you read in the Bible?

No, but when the Bible calls its own characters whores and scholars try to identify those characters, the Bible itself is the one who is leveling the charge. If the Bible is insinuating that in some kind of associated way, then others should expect that some are going to pick up on that and question it from an almost biblical perspective.

[DoctorP]

No, but when the Bible calls its own characters whores and scholars try to identify those characters, the Bible itself is the one who is leveling the charge. If the Bible is insinuating that in some kind of associated way, then others should expect that some are going to pick up on that and question it from an almost biblical perspective.

I'm not a Bible scholar...but I never remember reading the word "whore" in the Bible. I remember reading that Mary was a virgin.

[Fonze]

I'm not a Bible scholar...but I never remember reading the word "whore" in the Bible. I remember reading that Mary was a virgin.

Exactly. And TP why does an atheist care so much. But then it comes to respect others personal beliefs. TP AR is not a belief although i see were your coming from, it's not the same. It might mean more to you but it's not the same thing and your comparison dont fit it.

[DoctorP]

Exactly. And TP why does an atheist care so much. But then it comes to respect others personal beliefs. TP AR is not a belief although i see were your coming from, it's not the same. It might mean more to you but it's not the same thing and your comparison dont fit it.

Fonze...AR is not a belief...but a lifestyle. I see how others could view religion as a lifestyle and not a belief too!

[TheNoNamedOne]

I would have to dig for it, DocP, but in Revelations (I am pretty sure) it refers to as The Great Whore of Babylon, which most scholars believe was referencing Mary Magdelene. Thing is, there are some scholars who believe that the early church separated the prostitute away from Mary Magdelene, thus creating two individuals. In other words they cleansed her.

Another thought is that Mary was a priestess held in divine esteem, hence Jesus was the divine child. In those days priestesses were the prostitutes to the temple priests, so in that case she would be like the priest's whore.

Keep in mind, too, Joseph was going to divorce Mary because he suspected her of cheating. And, all the town people would often say about Jesus as he was a boy, "Who is this child's father?" which could be seen more as a slur --- like insinuating he was a bastard child.

[Fonze]

who thought she was a priestess and show where or is it anti christians that believe this?

[Fonze]

mary mag might have been but TP in the end you also need to respect peoples belief right? Or then like i said before evrything should be up for grabs without your moderating.

[kombu_kid]

I know you have no respect for any religion or religious figures, but you should at least show some responsibility, especially being a moderator, and tread lightly on what many people hold in the highest regard, and choose your words carefully. It's obvious to most people that you could have conveyed the exact same idea you wanted to without resorting to using inflammatory descriptions. But you didn't......you chose the "shocking headline".......and I won't forget it.

This ain't naming a teddy bear "Mohammed", it's doing your best to defame the name of a religious figure of millions, when your question simply could have been reworded. What does that show everyone here about you, as moderator, as far as being responsible, level-headed and reasonably respectful towards others......I see a "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" attitude.

[Fonze]

Ok here you are 500,000:rolleyes::D

I think there was aglitch cause i dont have anything Muku.

[Fonze]

I know you have no respect for any religion or religious figures, but you should at least show some responsibility, especially being a moderator, and tread lightly on what many people hold in the highest regard, and choose your words carefully. It's obvious to most people that you could have conveyed the exact same idea you wanted to without resorting to using inflammatory descriptions. But you didn't......you chose the "shocking headline".......and I won't forget it.

This ain't naming a teddy bear "Mohammed", it's doing your best to defame the name of a religious figure of millions, when your question simply could have been reworded. What does that show everyone here about you, as moderator, as far as being responsible, level-headed and reasonably respectful towards others......I see a "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" attitude.

Exactly. He could have called it Mary the mother of jesus who was she really. Like i said non believers dont bother me one bit but TP you make it as what you read and believe is fact and there is no doubt that it is fact.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Exactly. And TP why does an atheist care so much. But then it comes to respect others personal beliefs. TP AR is not a belief although i see were your coming from, it's not the same. It might mean more to you but it's not the same thing and your comparison dont fit it.

It sure can be the same. Why should religion get a special pass? What matters is that some topics are special and deer to some and they do not want them to be defamed or insulted. That is how I feel about animals and animal rights and those who fight for that. It is just pure prejudice for you to say your sensibilities are greater than mine.

[DoctorP]

I know you have no respect for any religion or religious figures, but you should at least show some responsibility, especially being a moderator, and tread lightly on what many people hold in the highest regard, and choose your words carefully. It's obvious to most people that you could have conveyed the exact same idea you wanted to without resorting to using inflammatory descriptions. But you didn't......you chose the "shocking headline".......and I won't forget it.

This ain't naming a teddy bear "Mohammed", it's doing your best to defame the name of a religious figure of millions, when your question simply could have been reworded. What does that show everyone here about you, as moderator, as far as being responsible, level-headed and reasonably respectful towards others......I see a "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" attitude.


I wish people would stop bringing this up. Whether he is a mod or not is irrelavent! He made his post as a member of the forum...not a moderator. Why can't people seperate the two? I can!:rolleyes:

[Fonze]

Sometimes i feel like i want the world to end so we can see whats waiting for us in the other side.

[Fonze]

I wish people would stop bringing this up. Whether he is a mod or not is irrelavent! He made his post as a member of the forum...not a moderator. Why can't people seperate the two? I can!:rolleyes:

Because when he then doesn't like a response to his offensive OP he jumps on the horse as a moderator. I dont see whats so hard to understand.

[DoctorP]

Exactly. He could have called it Mary the mother of jesus who was she really. Like i said non believers dont bother me one bit but TP you make it as what you read and believe is fact and there is no doubt that it is fact.

And in turn he was able to get you, and others (881 view as of now and 47 replies) to read the post. Had he worded it otherwise, 4 people may have viewed it.

[DoctorP]

Because when he then doesn't like a response to his offensive OP he jumps on the horse as a moderator. I dont see whats so hard to understand.

So should a moderator just lurk in the background and never post at all? That would be a scary individual now wouldn't it?:scared:

[kombu_kid]

So because some people on the forum laugh and sh*t on AR & ARists, that gives you the green light to do so also? As moderator, don't you feel some obligation or higher standard for yourself? It wasn't the subject, it was how you wiped your ass with religion......

[Fonze]

It sure can be the same. Why should religion get a special pass? What matters is that some topics are special and deer to some and they do not want them to be defamed or insulted. That is how I feel about animals and animal rights and those who fight for that. It is just pure prejudice for you to say your sensibilities are greater than mine.

So because you felt your cause was insulted, you then have to insult something else to get satisfaction? I also never said it should get a special pass, just respect.

[TheNoNamedOne]

It's obvious to most people that you could have conveyed the exact same idea you wanted to without resorting to using inflammatory descriptions. But you didn't......you chose the "shocking headline".......and I won't forget it.

Google "Was Jesus a bastard?" There are thousands of people all over the world asking this question, and have been asking this question for years. Bastard is merely the technical word of "a child whose father is unknown." Now, would that have been better than how I posed it? Changing Marry for Jesus and going from the feminine to the masculine? Why not? Both are fine.

Whore merely means someone who sleeps with a lot of men. What if I asked this question, "Was Jesus a promiscuous stud?" Would that be ok? Why is it that the word "stud" is ok to use in referring to a man with many sexual partners but not a woman. YOu see, you are being sexist here with language when it comes to examining public historical characters, and we are not in those times but now, where our language should be used without sexism or cheuvenism to give protection or favor to some or different classes.

[DoctorP]

So because some people on the forum laugh and sh*t on AR & ARists, that gives you the green light to do so also? As moderator, don't you feel some obligation or higher standard for yourself? It wasn't the subject, it was how you wiped your ass with religion......

Was this at me or TP? You should really clarify that.

People poke fun at AR'ist all over this forum...and PETA too. I suspect most of it is because people are trying to get a rise out of TP...if they didn't know he liked those causes, I doubt most of them would post anything...hell, look at some signatures around here (I used to be guilty too, so not really pointing fingers here). I think TP was just spurring discussion on something more than rather viagra will give you a boner...something a little more concrete and serious. I know that many members appreciate that.

[Fonze]

And in turn he was able to get you, and others (881 view as of now and 47 replies) to read the post. Had he worded it otherwise, 4 people may have viewed it.

So how many were actually on topic? How many people looked into to just see the fighting? Then you admit it was for the catch.

The thing also is only he could get away with it cause he's a mod or a member , which ever serves him best at the time right?

If i started a thread called "ARist are fxxxxx that xxxx xxxx" and then go and make satire and talk about actual wackos that are part of AR do you really think TP would let it go Docp? Ya right.

[kombu_kid]

How can you say that whore is not offensive, then get offended by the use of the word elsewhere?:cool:


Sorry, but I thought that's what this was all about.......TP did dole out a red box for having the "whore" title turned back at his family, didn't he?

[TheNoNamedOne]

So because you felt your cause was insulted, you then have to insult something else to get satisfaction?

Not at all. My Mary posts came months after the barage of slurs and ridicule of my posts on animals and ARist (though those comments still pop up from time to time). If I had wanted to lash out and use Mary as a weapon as a response to that I would have done it long ago.

I am just highlighting how you guys are being bias with wanting to carve out a topic for special treatment for yourselves but will balk at special treatment for the topic I want given special protection. And then what about others who have their special beloved topics as well? See where this is going? Everyone could claim a special topic and then we would be a very luke warm forum without some good topics or titles to even get people into them.

[Fonze]

TP a whore gets paid for services. You know better than that.

[DoctorP]

So how many were actually on topic? How many people looked into to just see the fighting? Then you admit it was for the catch.


I admit nothing...I am just saying that people clicked on the link.
The thing also is only he could get away with it cause he's a mod or a member , which ever serves him best at the time right?

If i started a thread called "ARist are fXXXXX that XXXXXX" and then go and make satire and talk about actual wackos that are part of AR do you really think TP would let it go Docp? Ya right.

No that is not true...and your example is a poor one. Not even in the same ballpark.

[TheNoNamedOne]

The thing also is only he could get away with it cause he's a mod or a member , which ever serves him best at the time right?

Anyone can make controversial topics and titles.

If i started a thread called "ARist are fxxxxx that sxxx cxxx" and then go and make satire and talk about actual wackos that are part of AR do you really think TP would let it go Docp? Ya right.

Fonze, if you want to make a title targeting specific ARists who you know who are gay and think that is something would interest people in talking about, then go ahead. I doubt many people will care or even post in it. Biblical figures and discussion on the Bible though interest many. You have to remember, I just didn't make a slur against Mary, I gave a motive and deduction and gave points as to why it possibly could be so.

Now, I could not say "Christians are whores" in a complete sense like you said above, "ARists are fxxxxx and sxxx cxxx" simply because there are many Christians who are not whores and there are many ARists who are not faggots. Neither one of us could support such a wide charge.

[Fonze]

Im going to bed, plus i dont feel i can properly express myself on a keyboard. Im nok ax smark orm edumacated as u fillows. Later.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Im going to bed, plus i dont feel i can properly express myself on a keyboard. Im nok ax smark orm edumacated as u fillows. Later.

Fair enough, Fonze. I'm sleepy too. Off to bed for me. I guess that leaves KombuKid on the other side of the world.

Cya tomorrow.

[DoctorP]

Im going to bed, plus i dont feel i can properly express myself on a keyboard. Im nok ax smark orm edumacated as u fillows. Later.

don't go to bed angry.

[kombu_kid]

Poor guy, the last thing on his mind before bed was TP......and talkin' about s****in' c**k. Yeah, he'll be tossin' & turnin' tonite.\:-)

[DoctorP]

Poor guy, the last thing on his mind before bed was TP......and talkin' about s****in' c**k. Yeah, he'll be tossin' & turnin' tonite.:-)

lol...talk about a bad dream! :scared:

Be sure to not use this smiley! :ohmy:

[TheNoNamedOne]

lol. Yeah, that is funny!

[DougP]

Wow I'll make sure I go to bed on other terms.:D

[TheNoNamedOne]

Damn! I promised my wife I'd be in bed at 11:30. Oh Lordy...

[Muku]

I think there was aglitch cause i dont have anything Muku.

Fonze just to let you know that last night when I sent it to you I saw it show up under your name and here is the record of the transaction. I'm sorry, I will send a pm to dk later asking him to check this out......

Unless of course you are pulling my leg here:rolleyes:, please let me know if you are serious.:)

http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=182&d=1198185555

I hope dk can find it for you because this would really suck......

[DoctorP]

I'm pretty sure he is pulling your leg, and he lost it all in the casino! :D

[Muku]

I'm pretty sure he is pulling your leg, and he lost it all in the casino! :D
Damn that REALLY sucks!:eek:

[kombu_kid]

I'm pretty sure he is pulling your leg, and he lost it all in the casino!

If that's the case, then I think it's time for some forum intervention and then rehab!!! Addicted to the "crack" on the forums, now gambling!!:D

[Fonze]

Ya i was pulling your leg muku. I acidentally pushed the 10000 chip and lost it in like 2 spins. Thanks though.

[okisteve]

And I could give two shits about you posting the same thing twice, but I am starting to wonder about my own sanity for sticking around to read all this potty-mouthed juvenile junk. I think this is where "get a life!" has real meeting.

Merry Xmas everyone.

[P_chan]

And I could give two shits about you posting the same thing twice, but I am starting to wonder about my own sanity for sticking around to read all this potty-mouthed juvenile junk. I think this is where "get a life!" has real meeting.

Merry Xmas everyone.

yet your still here hmmmm:confused:

[okisteve]

I7m just lurking and waiting to see Fonze lead with his mouth and get his foot caught in it again.

[smhersweetie]

Alright....just reading all these post i had to post something. I'm a Christian, but for people to talk or say their opinion or question the bible it's fine. Nothing wrong...we believe in what believe. Sometimes I question myself about the bible and science with the history too, but not completly doubt the bible. If I say to myself that the bible is a fake...I tell you I know for sure I'm going to hell. I'm not a perfect person, but to say all that crap about the bible..that's just a bunch of bs.

Lets say the bible didn't exist and was just made up? Well, we got here somehow...people just didn't appear in this world. Yea...we fkd and made babies..but that doesnt' mean that someone didn't create us to come in this world. But you don't have to agree with me...I'm not gonna judge you for what you believe or what religion is. Just believe in whatever you want.

Alright...just a piece of me. Don't want to get into all that arguing crap that you guys have been doing the past few days. It's non-sense. And for people to bash and ban what other people post that's retarded...and your full of S**T urself...please!!

Okay..I think i got a few more credits for this post!!

[P_chan]

Sorry for the off topic post, but I gave you some credits to play with smhersweetie.

[Fonze]

Okisteve this was nothing against you and i wish that TP did not delete all the stuff that lead up to me writing that. I'm just making a point about antagonizing and the bias in the moderating, thats it.

[okisteve]

Okisteve this was nothing against you and i wish that TP did not delete all the stuff that lead up to me writing that. I'm just making a point about antagonizing and the bias in the moderating, thats it.

OK, Fonze, I accept that.

But this antagonizes me, too:

ARist are 100% animal rapist.
Americans that teach english in Asia are 99% young male molesters.

So would you kindly remove them? Asking you nice, like.

I agree that members other than moderators should have the right to call something offensive and not need to hide behind any silly "report this post" function.

As someone has already pointed out, words written here carry a lot more weight than the casual snarky remark at home or at the office.

[TheNoNamedOne]

Okisteve this was nothing against you and i wish that TP did not delete all the stuff that lead up to me writing that. I'm just making a point about antagonizing and the bias in the moderating, thats it.

Fonze, do not repost a 4th time that post which has been deleted already 3 times with your insults since it first appeared a day or two ago. Your warning message I sent you explains it more accurately. Thank you. -- TP, mod.

[Bones]

Stop it alreadY, TP!!!!:cursing:

NBTP

[Fonze]

okisteve alot of sigs antagonize and until one in specific is not removed mine stands. Thanks for asking nice anyways.

[okisteve]

Seems a little (a lot) inconsistent that a moderator can delete an offensive post but not an offensive sig. What about avatars? Wasn't poor old Muku hounded into losing Miss Kadena?

[Mad Hatter]

Like I dais in the auction thread... I got Reon and put her in my basement for own sick amusment :43:

[DoctorP]

Muku took his avatar down by choice. There were a couple of complaints (or maybe one) but he was never made to take it down AFAIK.

[Mad Hatter]

SHe's not in my basement anymore? Damn her... she won't get far

[okisteve]

Muku took his avatar down by choice. There were a couple of complaints (or maybe one) but he was never made to take it down AFAIK.

OK, call it moderating or call it peer pressure. Why doesn't it work for sigs?

[dk]

No, Muku wasn't hounded at all about his avatar. He took it off because a co-worker of mine mentioned that it offended her. I mentioned this to him in the Miyako thread, but I never once asked him to change his avatar. Hell, that popcorn girl avatar is much worse.

Edit: oh, thanks DocP.

[DoctorP]

OK, call it moderating or call it peer pressure. Why doesn't it work for sigs?

We have been pretty lenient with sigs from the restart of the forum. I've even poked at TP in my sig for a while.

We can delete/modify sigs if we see fit, and we will if they go too far, but I haven't seen anyone get really out of hand to this point. (that is not an invitation to press the issue!) :rolleyes:

[dk]

SHe's not in my basement anymore? Damn her... she won't get far
It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.

[DougP]

OK, call it moderating or call it peer pressure. Why doesn't it work for sigs?

Eel and TMS had a go around about another "offensive" signature in the past. It was resolved. It can work in the case of sigs as well. If its approached the right way, which it usually isn't. Most of the time it starts out as two people butting heads and thumping chests. Not a good way to go about bringing change, what the hey, its how the world works.