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watzitoou

12-18-2007, 09:09 AM

Ok, so I have 4 Dell computers, and 8 external hard drives. Everything is basically full and maxed out with porn, music, games and anime movies.

Instead of buying memory and more external hard drives I rather just buy a new pc, something faster and more of everything!! I was going to order thru Dell, but decided to ask you guys here. Here is something that I am looking at:

PROCESSOR - Intel® Core™2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB)
OPERATING SYSTEM - Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
MONITOR - 20 inch Samsung 204BW Widescreen Analog/Digital Black LCD Monitor
MEMORY - 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 4DIMMs
HARD DRIVE - 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
OPTICAL DRIVE - Dual Drives: 48X CDRW/DVD COMBO Drive + 16X DVD+/-RW Drive
VIDEO CARD - Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
SOUND - Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
KEYBOARD & MOUSE - Dell USB Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse
FLOPPY & MEDIA READER - No Floppy Drive Included
MODEM & WIRELESS - 56K PCI Data Fax Modem

Something like this would be awesome!! But it came to $4600.00

PROCESSOR - Intel® Core™2 Extreme QX6850 (8MB,3.33GHz Factory overclocked)
OPERATING SYSTEM - Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium
MEMORY - 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 DIMMs
HARD DRIVE - 750GB - Seagate 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
ADDITIONAL HARD DRIVE - 750GB - Seagate 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
OPTICAL DRIVE - Dual Drives: 16x DVD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW w/ dbl layer write capable
MONITOR - 24 inch E248WFP Entry Widescreen Digital Flat Panel Monitor
VIDEO CARD - 768MB Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX
SOUND CARD - Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer (D) Sound Card
KEYBOARD - Dell USB Keyboard
MOUSE - Dell Optical USB Mouse
FLOPPY & MEDIA READER - No Floppy Drive or Media Reader Included
MODEM - 56K PCI Data Fax Modem

My question is - anything you guys recommend and not recommend?

I am going to check out Goodwill this week, and some other places my friends said to check out. The one's on base, I never got any help.. Interesting 1 lady at the PX told me just pick one you like and buy it. It took forever to get service! She couldn't answer any of my questions. I went to the BX, I had someone helping me but wandered off to help some guys..but she didn't know anything just told me the MAC was better than everything else. I got a guy to help me, he just said they all work well, there isn't much difference in the computers besides size of screen and brand. :thumbdown:

DoctorP

12-18-2007, 09:30 AM

If you order from Dell, it wil be hella expensive! Goodwill will be a little pricey too. Tigerdirect.com or newegg.com sometimes have good deals

P_chan

12-18-2007, 09:44 AM

I've been planning on getting a new computer soon. It's true, a lot of the computers on base are very similar. Does that make them bad computers? Not really, espeically if you decide to upgrade them yourself.

I'm still wondering if I should get a dual core processor with my next desktop or not. Any suggestions?

DougP

12-18-2007, 09:48 AM

http://www.newegg.com/ ... nuff said! Seriously they have some awesome deals from core systems, motherboards, complete computers, you name it. They ship to APO as well.

here's some of their complete systems.
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=10&name=Desktop-PCs

IndyGal

12-18-2007, 10:56 AM

The one's on base, I never got any help.. Interesting 1 lady at the PX told me just pick one you like and buy it. It took forever to get service! She couldn't answer any of my questions. I went to the BX, I had someone helping me but wandered off to help some guys..but she didn't know anything just told me the MAC was better than everything else. I got a guy to help me, he just said they all work well, there isn't much difference in the computers besides size of screen and brand.

Yeah I don't think the regular employees there are much help when asking detailed questions. They have reps that come in that are much more helpful. You are better off asking when the rep for the product you have questions about comes in.

mikersoft

12-18-2007, 01:25 PM

I also recommend newegg.com for PC parts. :thumbup1: I've always had very speedy service from them and their prices are competitive. It's good to know they ship to APOs. That could come in hand someday ;)

-Mike

P_chan

12-18-2007, 01:27 PM

I've never actually bought anything off of newegg.com but they do have some good deals. My buddy gets all his computer stuff from newegg and has never had a problem.

DocTurtle

12-18-2007, 02:15 PM

Firstly, you can get a good rig for under 2000, maybe even 1000 depending on what you are planning on using it for. Please don't use dell or any other site because you will not be satisfied with what you get when you find out you could have built your own for usually 50-75% cheaper and actually get what you want. 1 sec and and I'll give more info.

ja_Patriot

12-18-2007, 02:32 PM

I'd get a notebook /laptop is I were to get a new unit with wireless and blue tooth capability. A desktop just gathers dust, plus in Oki space is a premium.

My Dell Inspiron travels well for rugged use and on the go. Priced more, but if you get these on sale, quite a good deal. Trouble free for a few years now. One of my gamer boys got a Dell XPS Gaming with a Core 2 Duo Extreme processor. Crazy fast and also robust. Got it on sale for less than $2k.

DocTurtle

12-18-2007, 02:43 PM

IMO:
PROCESSOR-Alright, so from what I can tell from this post, you really aren't doing anything intensive with your computer. No really need for a quad core processor when a dual core will be more than sufficiant. Quad core would be more if you were going to build a server or if you are doing some really high quality music or video editing...like the kind that you would of had to go to school for.
OS: To each there own here. I personally don't care for Vista just yet due to it having too many bugs still. Once the next SP (Service Pack) comes out then I'll look more into it. Right now it just seems like it's trying to mimic the MAC OS (Operating System)...which there are plenty of programs out there that do it anyway for Windows XP. Again though, that's all on you. :cool:
MONITOR: Again, it's all in what you want. Definitely shop around though. Newegg.com has some great deals and is generally the only place I'll shop from. What's important with this is the native resolution. The higher the better, but honestly if you want to watch something on a big screen then you can just watch it on your TV. :p
MEMORY: 4GB!! Wow. To be honest....I don't think you could even manage to use 2GB from what you've posted so far. 2GB is normally more than enough for most rigs, even gaming rigs. Again, unless you are doing some highly intensive music or video editing...no need.
HHD: There are some great brands out there. Seagate is one of my favs. The higher the RPM the faster your HDD will be and the faster you can access stuff. 7200RPM is about average and is good honestly. You really don't need anything much faster and I doubt that even if you did get something faster that you would be able to tell. As for the space, why not go for 2 500GB drives or even a tetradrive (1000GB)?
OPTICAL DRIVE: More the merrier. Get 2 and have fun :D The one you listed is good. Just have to figure out what brand you want.
VIDEO CARD: Intergrated is crap. That's all you need to know on that. Same with intergrated sound. There are plenty of good graphics cards out there for decent prices. I don't know how future proof you are looking to make this or if you are only going to be using it for e-mail, movies, and the occasional game? Budget also always plays a part. :p

SOUND: Again, intergrated is crap. Even the cheapest sound card is better than intergrated sound.
KEYBOARD & MOUSE: User pref.
FLOPPY & MEDIA READER What's a floppy? j/k Always good to get at least some kind of media reader in your rig just because you never know. As long as you have extra USB ports then you can get by. They have multi media readers than you can just plug into them.
MODEM & WIRELESS: Most motherboards come standard with the "normal" modem we all expect. Wireless, you can either get a PCI-card for it or just go wired...but it's a desktop...how much moving around are you going to do with it??

I can shop for a rig for you and get you a good baseline price. I just need to know what exactly you plan on using this for.
1) Are you an intensive gamer?
2) What will you do most on this computer?
3) Budget?

Mac is good. Anyone else you tells you otherwise is a fan boy and should just *pbbbbbbtttt* jog on. It really is what you plan on using the computer for. There are a lot of programs out there that are not compatiable with MAC, but MAC is slowly changing up there OS so that it can accomidate for more. There is office for MAC now. Also, there is no such thing as a MAC gamer. MAC isn't really but for that.

So yea, just answer the questions above and try to be as detailed as you can about what you really want from this new computer.

Bones

12-18-2007, 05:09 PM

As posted by P_chan:

I've been planning on getting a new computer soon. It's true, a lot of the computers on base are very similar. Does that make them bad computers? Not really, espeically if you decide to upgrade them yourself.

I'm still wondering if I should get a dual core processor with my next desktop or not. Any suggestions?

Yeah, build your own. I haven't seen anything on this island so far that has impressed me. Like some other users out there have said, when you put your own system together, you'll have hit the "Sweet Spot"!!!!:thumbup1:

None of the systems that AAFES sells, are easy to upgrade. Oh sure, it's easy enough to add extra RAM, or a bigger HD (hard drive).

But if you're thinking about dropping in a pair of NVidia 8800 GT boards in there so that you can play Crysis, forget about it. I don't think that any of the HP desktops sold here support SLI. Or if they do, the power supply isn't capable of handling the extra power requirements. Those cards are huge, and none of the cases that I've seen so far, can accommodate them.

Dual core, yeah. But as another user has said, quad core is overkill for the home. There really isn't a lot of software that has been written for the dual core processors yet. Vista I think would benefit a little bit, and Photoshop users will be happy while doing intensive image manipulation....

NBTP

P_chan

12-18-2007, 05:25 PM

Yeah but it doesn't help to build it from scratch if your like me and you don't know how to build one:D

Bones

12-18-2007, 06:38 PM

As posted by P_chan:

Yeah but it doesn't help to build it from scratch if your like me and you don't know how to build one:D

What's to know? Do your research, figure out which components you would like to have, and bolt it together. :army:

Piece of cake, but sometimes people get themselves into trouble. You'll need a clean surface when putting the machine together. A grounding strap, a non-static mat to place your components on, some good tools, and make sure that you have a plan in place while assembling your computer. Take a close look at the instructions that came with the computer housing that you plan on using, the type of motherboard that you will be using, and when to install the power supply, to get get an idea of how to assemble your system.

Static electricity, is you biggest enemy, so be properly grounded before touching the sensitive parts (processor, mother board, ram chips..).

End of part 1...

NBTP

DoctorP

12-18-2007, 07:14 PM

Newegg.com and Tigerdirect are both really good for deals. I bought a 320GB external hard drive for $99 last week from Tigerdirect. AAFES was selling the 160GB model for $79 (from the same maker!).

They both ship to APO's too.

Bones

12-18-2007, 07:17 PM

Okay, you've assembled the pieces.

Power up your system.

If nothing blows up, you're good to go. :thumbup1:

Look at the screen messages during the boot. You'll probably see a few, since you haven't loaded any device drivers yet, nor an operating system. So you won't be booting into windows yet.

Write down all of the error messages that show up on the screen. You'll need them later. Also make sure that all of the devices that you've just installed are being recognized by the BIOS.

Turn the computer off, re-start, and press [F2] during start up, to enter the BIOS setting. Different manufacturers may require a different key sequence to reach the BIOS menu. So pay attention to the screen while the machine is starting up.

If you make it to the BIOS screen, page through the menus to see which components connected to your computer are recognized. They'll have to be plugged into the system, during the boot.

Again, write down any error messages.

Turn the computer off.

Turn the computer back on after five minutes. Load your operating system.

Have Vista myself, but switched back to XP (some of my older games didn't work). Once you've installed the operating system, everything should work pretty well. Lot less error messages, perhaps some driver issues....

Turn the computer off again.

End PT2:

Bones

12-18-2007, 08:06 PM

Okay, you've turned your computer on, hopefully everything is working as promised.

Before you load anything else, go on-line and find a good "Burn-In" program.

Think of it as a "Physical-Fitness Test".

The one that I use costs about $500.00, but there are a lot of good ones available for free.

It takes about 24 hours to run, and it puts your entire system under extreme duress. It pretty much overloads your system's capabilities, compared to a normal user. But it's a pretty good indicator about component functionality, and you would probably want to know if your system is going to crap out on you during a heavy workload.

The reason that I run that test, is because most of the systems that I've assembled, come in pieces. So the motherboard, video card, processor, etc..., are covered by warranty.If they burn out, then one of my clients can usually return them for a replacement, free of charge. I can't do that for them.

At this point, I'll install the rest of the software that they are interested in.

Any other tweaks are up to them.

It's time intensive, but you'll get a system that you'll be happy with. A heck of a lot less crap then what you'd find in a computer out of the box.

I'm pretty sure that you could handle such a project, if you really wanted to.:D

NBTP

Muku

12-18-2007, 09:14 PM

Any suggestions for a Burn In program? Also is it worth while to run one after the computer is up and running for a while?

ja_Patriot

12-18-2007, 09:14 PM

Or buy anything equivalent on sale and fully assembled. Tip: The monitor is the most important part, IMO. Try to get one with hi-def and widescreen.

DoctorP

12-18-2007, 09:16 PM

Or buy anything equivalent on sale and fully assembled. Tip: The monitor is the most important part, IMO. Try to get one with hi-def and widescreen.

The video card is equally important.

ja_Patriot

12-18-2007, 09:23 PM

True. The output will only be as good as your video card's capability.

Oxmix

12-19-2007, 05:50 AM

General Nano Systems will build you whatever you want at a reasonable price. I know, it's in the States but, check them out and see if they can do anything for you. Nothing to lose by doing so.

http://www.nanosys1.com/

Regards

Ox

DocTurtle

12-19-2007, 06:56 AM

Or buy anything equivalent on sale and fully assembled. Tip: The monitor is the most important part, IMO. Try to get one with hi-def and widescreen.

IMO the monitor has little to do with the actual system. It's good to get one with a decent native res, but past that it's all personal pref.

watzitoou

12-19-2007, 08:34 AM

[QUOTE=DocTurtle;47248]MEMORY:
4GB!! Wow. To be honest....I don't think you could even manage to use 2GB from what you've posted so far. 2GB is normally more than enough for most rigs, even gaming rigs. Again, unless you are doing some highly intensive music or video editing...no need.
QUOTE]

My computer I am using now, has 2gb of memory and is 79% full, my other 2 desktops are maxed out. My husband has the laptop, when he left it was 90% full. I keep buying external hard drives to transfer all the movies to them. All the external hard drives I have been buying I could have bought a new computer!! My computer upstairs that crashed is full of porn 2gb, I also have 2 external hard drives of porn :thumbup: My daughter had the laptop, all it had was 1gb of music, educational stuff, my husband's fighting games on it, and anime movies. He uses it alot for his TDY's. My husband current has total of 6 external hard drives..full of anime movies. I have 2 external hard drives full of porn..

On the 2 desktops we have Call of Duty 1-4 (I just download CD4), flight sim, MS flight simulator 2004 and 2002, MS train simulator, lock on modern air combat, flight deck III, allied force, and more.

So should I keep buying external hard drives?? Or 3 more computers or 1 computer that can handle it all?? or what is best?

Hollarey

12-19-2007, 09:05 AM

My computer upstairs that crashed is full of porn 2gb, I also have 2 external hard drives of porn. I have 2 external hard drives full of porn..

My suggestion....delete all the porn. What is the point of collecting porn on the computer?

TheLastDon

12-19-2007, 09:19 AM

P_chan

12-19-2007, 11:02 AM

While porn is addicting, it's all the same to me. You get a couple, and thats it. I could never watch all of it, and you never look for porn horny. I'm concerned that your child might stumble upon all this porn you have on your computers.

Once you say memory, I think your talking about 2GB of RAM, not hard disk space. If you only had a 2GB HDD then you wouldn't have enough space even for one movie.

P_chan

12-19-2007, 11:08 AM

I'd also consider running a disk clean up followed up by a disk defrag and finish it up with a virus scan of your computers and external hard drives. Moving all your files around can cause your HDD to become fragmented and slow it down a bit.

okisteve

12-19-2007, 11:54 AM

CCleaner (formerly called CrapCleaner) is a great free utility that can find registry errors that might be slowing your system down as well as cleaning up temp files, old cookies, etc.

okisteve

12-19-2007, 11:56 AM

While porn is addicting, it's all the same to me. You get a couple, and thats it. I could never watch all of it, and you never look for porn horny. I'm concerned that your child might stumble upon all this porn you have on your computers.

True dat! There's only so many ways of doin' it, and the technical quality is all pretty high now..

DocTurtle

12-19-2007, 12:33 PM

My computer I am using now, has 2gb of memory and is 79% full, my other 2 desktops are maxed out.
The common misconception here is that memory is confused with HDD space. Your hard drive and your RAM are two completely different things.
The amount of GB you have in your HDD is what's important. That's where all of your stuff is kept.
RAM(Random Access Memory) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM) is mainly for multi-tasking functions. It makes the computer able to access things faster. 2GB of RAM is more than enough for what you have already listed.

My husband has the laptop, when he left it was 90% full. I keep buying external hard drives to transfer all the movies to them. All the external hard drives I have been buying I could have bought a new computer!! My computer upstairs that crashed is full of porn 2gb, I also have 2 external hard drives of porn :thumbup: My daughter had the laptop, all it had was 1gb of music, educational stuff, my husband's fighting games on it, and anime movies. He uses it alot for his TDY's. My husband current has total of 6 external hard drives..full of anime movies. I have 2 external hard drives full of porn..
Again I think you might be mixing up HHD space and RAM. 2GB of porn really isn't that much. You can get 1GB thumbdrives for $20 at the exchange. 200GB of porn would be though. How big are all of your external HDD's, how many of each.

On the 2 desktops we have Call of Duty 1-4 (I just download CD4), flight sim, MS flight simulator 2004 and 2002, MS train simulator, lock on modern air combat, flight deck III, allied force, and more.
Some of those games are rather intensive. Do you play on max settings? If so, then a 8800 series card might be what you want.

So should I keep buying external hard drives?? Or 3 more computers or 1 computer that can handle it all?? or what is best? You might just be able to get on big external HDD or even an internal. That's kinda up to you though. I'll be looking up a decent rig for you a little later. Again, as with my 2nd post (#10 on the first page) give me a budget and I can shop for you of what I think would be good for your needs.

On a last note...are you running a porn server? Why the need for all that porn? I personally don't get much out of a porn if I watch it more then a couple times. Can you get rid of some of it? Or is this some blackmark....*blindfolded and dragged off*

Bones

12-19-2007, 04:41 PM

As posted by Muku:

Any suggestions for a Burn In program? Also is it worth while to run one after the computer is up and running for a while?

Well, that was going to be an easy one to answer. I asked the wife where my computer tools were?

Wife: "You sold them to Joe before we left. Have you forgotten?":rolleyes:

Uh, yeah.\:-)

But I e-mailed my friend yesterday, and should get a response within a few days. If I'm lucky. But I'll research some of the freeware available out there, and will let you know in a day or so.

Also is it worth while to run one after the computer is up and running for a while?

Nope. You don't really have to do a burn-in at all. I only run a burn-in on systems that I assemble for myself, or if the person who has asked me to build one for him/her, specifically requests it. Used to charge $50.00, since it required the system to run for 24 hours.

For the average person, let's say some who uses Microsoft Office, browses the web, sends e-mail etc..., it's not necessary. Nor is it necessary for people who buy a boxed computer. Usually the vendor does that before the unit is shipped, but not always.

But for Power Users (Graphics Professionals, Auto-Cad users, Scientists, etc...) who really put a strain on their systems, I would recommend it.

NBTP

watzitoou

12-19-2007, 07:12 PM

Are you sure you want help or are you just trying to brag about how much crap(porn) that you have on your computers because nobody cares.

Memory doesn't get full, the only time you use memory is when you are running aplications. If you are using too much memory try closing some aplications.

I am not bragging about all the shignits I have on my computers...I can really careless what you people think or say for that matter.. Now I was trying to explain what I have on my computers, what we use them for and so forth, tell help you people get a better idea on what kind of pc I need or not need or what...

You know if I just said I have 2gb that are full, everyone would give me a bunch of crap.

Ok, so I need to get rid of my applications and that will solve my pc problems?

watzitoou

12-19-2007, 07:14 PM

consider running a disk clean up followed up by a disk defrag and finish it up with a virus scan of your computers and external hard drives.

I do this often.

watzitoou

12-19-2007, 07:24 PM

My suggestion....delete all the porn. What is the point of collecting porn on the computer?

Back in the day, I would download porn (bittorrent) for my brother, and send my brother porn movies for Christmas and b-days!! Since we have been here in Oki, I haven't had time to burn them or anything.. The past few months, I have been trying to transferring them to external hard drives and sending them to my brother for Christmas.. I have deleted alot of it.

Does that answer your question?

Bones

12-19-2007, 08:36 PM

As posted by watzitoou:

Back in the day, I would download porn (bittorrent) for my brother, and send my brother porn movies for Christmas and b-days!! Since we have been here in Oki, I haven't had time to burn them or anything.. The past few months, I have been trying to transferring them to external hard drives and sending them to my brother for Christmas.. I have deleted alot of it.

Does that answer your question?

:eek:Stumped!!!:eek:

Hard to figure out which one of you needs a real life.:old:

NBTP

P_chan

12-19-2007, 10:24 PM

You know if I just said I have 2gb that are full, everyone would give me a bunch of crap.

You ask for help, we help, you snap back:confused: You snap at people for tying to explain things that you obviously don't know shit about. The following quote from your previous post clearly shows that you don't know what your talking about:

My computer I am using now, has 2gb of memory and is 79% full, my other 2 desktops are maxed out.

I was trying to explain to you that 2GB of memory is NOT the amount of hard disk space you have. If you had a HDD with only 2GB of storage space, you couldn't even fit ONE movie on it! Here are some links for you that might help you tell the difference between RAM (Random Access MEMORY) and your HDD (Hard Disk Drive):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM

Once again (DocTurtle covered this already), RAM is used to store temporary information (like internet browser cookies) that your computer can access quickly. While a HDD is used for storing larger files. Such as saved files, installed games, movies, and large amounts of useless (and probably virus laced) porn.

You also might want to make sure you have the latest version of virus definitions for you virus scan. If your virus scan is outdated, then it won't find any new viruses that might be lurking in your smut.

Next time you ask for help, I suggest you don't snap back at the people who are trying to help you.

Mad Hatter

12-19-2007, 10:42 PM

You know what... I got a Ftp hosting mega computer built for me at Sunny-Net. I just told them what I wanted... they priced everything, told me when it was going to be done... I paid... they ordered... and I picked it up. The guys there even showed me all the ins and outs of my system. I have about 3000 gbs worth of space... granted it cost a little, but i knew it would. I just wanted it done right. Now I can do web host (Sunny-net took care of it), but I could host gaming servers and hold a crap load of... other files. They can answer all your questions... But I did my own shopping before I talked to them... Newegg.com is the way to go... Tigerdirect has insane deals and sales... overstock.com, but they don't deliver over here... Hope this helped

watzitoou

12-19-2007, 10:46 PM

You ask for help, we help, you snap back:confused: You snap at people for tying to explain things that you obviously don't know shit about. The following quote from your previous post clearly shows that you don't know what your talking about:

Once again (DocTurtle covered this already), RAM is used to store temporary information (like internet browser cookies) that your computer can access quickly. While a HDD is used for storing larger files. Such as saved files, installed games, movies, and large amounts of useless (and probably virus laced) porn.

You also might want to make sure you have the latest version of virus definitions for you virus scan. If your virus scan is outdated, then it won't find any new viruses that might be lurking in your smut.

Next time you ask for help, I suggest you don't snap back at the people who are trying to help you.

Sorry I am not a high tech computer expert, that is why I posted a question, and went further in detail so someone would understand and be able to help me into the right direction.

If you noticed I thanked Docturtle for his info.. and I do have Norton 360 2007.

Who in the hugnuts did I snap back at huh?

DoctorP

12-19-2007, 10:46 PM

Mad Hatter

12-19-2007, 10:48 PM

I'm surprised you listed overstock.com...I've used them before (over 2 years ago) and they shipped to me.:-|

it's been about 4 years since I lasted tried... but I can't really remember if they did or not... I just know that there was some trouble with them shipping stuff over here... back then... maybe not now... good looking

DoctorP

12-19-2007, 10:50 PM

You can get around some websites by listing your city as FPO and state as CA...as long as your zip code is correct, the products will get to you...they all go through CA anyway for military mail!

P_chan

12-19-2007, 10:51 PM

I never expected you to be a super high tech computer expert.

Oh and just because you have norton 2007, that doesn't mean you have the latest virus definitions. If your live update subscription expires, then you won't have the latest definitions, and it won't catch any new virus that come out.

Does that answer your question?

This looks pretty snappy.

Oh and you didn't thank DocTurtle until I said something :D

watzitoou

12-19-2007, 10:57 PM