Option to Put TheProsecutor on "Ignore" [Archive]

ja_Patriot

12-12-2007, 11:30 PM

Is it time to allow members to place the poster called TheProsecutor on "ignore"?

By some administrative restriction, posts coming from this particular poster cannot be placed on the "ignore" list by users simply because he is designated as a "moderator".

Quite an oxymoron, considering the senseless rubbish and diatribes coming from this fellow's mind, and considering that by definition the root word "moderate" infers to keeping matters within reasonable or proper limits; and not extreme, excessive, or intense.

The opinion and views of this poster can always be disclaimed by the owners and administrators of this forum.

By the same token, common decency should dictate that users be spared the time and trouble of reading any of his garbage.

By this post, I respectfully request that I be given this option.

What is your opinion?

Would you appreciate if you are given this option:
- To place TheProsecutor on "ignore" at any time, just as it applies to any other poster.

You can always PM dk, the forum administrator, if you'd like to keep your request private.

Fonze

12-12-2007, 11:36 PM

good idea i dont put anyone on ignore though. I do believe that should be an option though.

I also believe in past comments that if he starts a provacative thread he should not be allowed to mod in it unless foul language is being used and not words he himself uses.

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand

12-12-2007, 11:36 PM

...common decency should dictate that users be spared the time and trouble of reading any of his garbage.
Those of you who have the ability to resist opening one of his topics already have this skill so desired by ja_P.:-|

ja_Patriot

12-12-2007, 11:43 PM

Not necessarily true in topics initiated by others. I think the option should be available to ignore any poster.

Any warnings can always be posted by other moderators or PM'ed, if necessary.

DougP

12-12-2007, 11:44 PM

Those of you who have the ability to resist opening one of his topics already have this skill so desired by ja_P.:-|

Oh you crack me up sometimes.:D
YouTube - The Green Hornet

12-12-2007, 11:51 PM

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand

12-12-2007, 11:56 PM

Pour vous...

Mad Hatter

12-12-2007, 11:57 PM

Did ya'll feel the foot.. I felt the foot.. .because the foot just got put down... DAMN!!!

socalheart

12-13-2007, 12:00 AM

heeheehee :D just don't open a thread (started by tP) that seems controversial to you. use the quick menu options - today's posts or live feed. each will give you the first bit of words in the thread or post if the title isn't clear. :shrug: seems easy enough to me. but then again, I'm pregnant and trying to make everything easier for myself.

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 12:03 AM

For the fourth time

YOU CANNOT PUT A MODERATOR ON IGNORE

and possibly for the sixth or seventh time

TP ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE

If you're unable to accept either of these two, the door is right over there.

And that's actually the last thing I have to say in this thread. Enjoy.

The question has been asked, is asked and will be asked just as everyone else has the freedom to post anything on God's Earth in this forum.

You have the prerogative to answer any way you please, and will be respected because you are the administrator. Things always change in time, so under the circumstances and because of the very nature of TP's views, the same question may arise again and again, though not necessarily from myself.

And, No, I'm not going anywhere.

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand

12-13-2007, 12:04 AM

Um, I'd like to request a song. Can I dedicate it to someone? Yeah, someone *really* special.

YouTube - KARMA POLICE-RADIOHEAD

12-13-2007, 12:05 AM

Um, I'd like to request a song. Can I dedicate it to someone? Yeah, someone *really* special.

YouTube - KARMA POLICE-RADIOHEAD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeLAELIxKY)
Dude, that's like my favorite song... lol. Well, at least my favorite band. Or, top two bands at least. :o

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 12:10 AM

Which song? Must be the post I have on ignore.

kombu_kid

12-13-2007, 12:15 AM

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand

12-13-2007, 12:15 AM

Which song? Must be the post I have on ignore.
Tee hee:D

He says that everytime he's about to cry himself to sleep..."I can't see the posts I keep responding to...":D

kombu_kid

12-13-2007, 12:19 AM

You see, trying to "stay relevant" in a discussion isn't easy when you put someone on "ignore".

TheNoNamedOne

12-13-2007, 12:20 AM

Who has become irrelevant?

12-13-2007, 12:20 AM

Not to mention, a moderator isn't a moderator if everyone can just ignore him.

kombu_kid

12-13-2007, 12:25 AM

If I decide to put 2 people on "ignore", then stay relevant in a conversation, everyone else is posting their ideas based on everyone's input, and commenting/answering each other's posts, and I'm not. I start becoming irrelevant to the total conversation. It's like being deaf in one ear and trying to kick ass in a debate, surrounded by a bunch of people.

DougP

12-13-2007, 12:25 AM

I some how think though it would be impossible for some to ignore TP even with the function turned on. Curiosity along the lines of "OMG what did he post now?" would kill a few cats.

Fonze

12-13-2007, 12:25 AM

12-13-2007, 12:27 AM

I was staying out, but I wanted to clarify a point.

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 12:28 AM

I may be goin' against the grain here, but I'm all for freedom of speech, or posting for that matter.....we can all articulate how we feel about a subject, right? We can all say "I have so little respect for you, I wouldn't spit in your face if it was on fire".....just kidding, but there's a million ways to get your point across without getting the "red box" treatment, deshiow?

Ya'll know what a "shock-jock" is? Think about it.

Always good to go against the grain when necessary, and stick to your principles and be not afraid to call rubbish for what it is. Made a fortune that way.

You can always see through those without character - and in the end, pity them. Judging by the content of their posts, just imagine what some of these guys are going through in real life. To some, solace in finding real manhood seem to depend on feeling some semblance of courage and self-esteem behind the skirt of a virtual world. To each his own, I guess.

Go-Shay

12-13-2007, 12:28 AM

Fonze

12-13-2007, 12:32 AM

I was staying out, and then somebody brought me back in. This thread went from "let me ignore tp or please get rid of him" to humor. I like humor.

who said to get rid of him?

TheNoNamedOne

12-13-2007, 12:32 AM

I thought you were staying out dk?

Eel Ja made a thing you certainly dont need to make it worse. Im sure Toilet Paper can defend himself. Dk did you have a talk with your friend about his having it both ways.

Fonze, refer to members as their handle or the neutral use of innitials that make up their name. Thank you.

12-13-2007, 12:34 AM

who said to get rid of him?
sorry, humor didn't bring me back. I just had to reread why I came back in here, and I edited my above post to reflect that. I came back because to be able to set a mod on ignore is the same thing as getting rid of that mod. If you cannot hear a mod when he's telling you to stop something, you're not going to act on it.

It's like a police car with lights, but no siren. Only, you can't see the lights either.

Why should some other mod need to step in to tell you that another mod told you to stop doing something.

That, in effect, is getting rid of a mod.

Fonze

12-13-2007, 12:39 AM

true true dk. sorry TP.

kombu_kid

12-13-2007, 12:40 AM

"I dun got mah hed rawt, boss".......COOL HAND LUKE

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 12:52 AM

"Glad you did, punk...." MAGNUM FORCE

12-13-2007, 02:12 AM

You can always see through those without character - and in the end, pity them. Judging by the content of their posts, just imagine what some of these guys are going through in real life. To some, solace in finding real manhood seem to depend on feeling some semblance of courage and self-esteem behind the skirt of a virtual world. To each his own, I guess.
Just curious, but who exactly are you talking about?

Muku

12-13-2007, 06:07 AM

Not to mention, a moderator isn't a moderator if everyone can just ignore him.
Really dumb question for you here dk, I am beigining to think that someone has to ask it......

With all due respect here dk do you really know what a moderator is supposed to do? Or is TP only a mod here because of your relationship with him. Have you ever considered creating the position of an advisor, which seems appropriate considering the discussions that have been had regarding TP. He seems to me at least more of an advisor for you than an actual moderator.

If you're unable to accept either of these two, the door is right over there.

This also comes across as a common reoccuring theme between you and DocP and that is said in all seriousness, no sarcasm intended at all. This is what I refered to in previous posts about "community building". We are a community here and I would hope that our collective voice would be heard as well.

Would you rather have it that "we" left? I dont think so. I hope that is not what you want, but I also dont think that we as members here are being given respect for our part here either. To me that doesnt seem right either.

You expect people here to not open threads that could be controversial and refrain from commenting. Hmmm you have said that on numerous occasions, but it doesnt change does it? Nor will it nor should it. On the otherhand and said with all due respect here; Do you actually appreciate these types of threads and the ontroversy they bring?

Backing him up is admirable, we all would be lucky to have a friend like you to back us up as much as you do for TP. :thumbup1:

Until last last night the past couple of days here were very peaceful and many different people participated in the conversations. There was no back biting nor any problems people kept things level headed and "self-moderated" there were no "problems".

Your moderator comes back on line and what happens?

Whether it is possible or not to put TP on ignorehere dk, imho JA makes a valid point with his OP here.

P_chan

12-13-2007, 08:00 AM

Muku

12-13-2007, 08:18 AM

I'm stuck in the middle with this arguement. I agree that you shouldn't put a mod on ignore, becuase that defeats the purpose of a mod. I also sympathize with those who wish to ignore the rest of TPs non-mod posts. The only option I can see working in this situation is if TP made two accounts. One regular account for everyday posting, that people can put on ignore. Then his mod account that he could use strictly for moderating. But if I was TP, that would get kinda annoying having to switch back and forth between accounts.
The highlighted section is where I think the problems occur P. He moderates those posts heavily, only the the begining mind you, after a while he lets them go, which is annoying as well.

Having two accounts for him is a good option as well, as I have pointed out previously on a number of occasions here if he stepped away from moderating these "interesting" posts that he makes I think that people here would respect that from him more than his heavy handed method of making comments and condescending replies in is posts, where he would not allow others to do the same. That is like it or not a double standard.

okisteve

12-13-2007, 08:27 AM

Since it looks like the "Mary" debate has migrated over here, I'll add my 2 cents.

I don't believe that outright censorship has any place on this forum. Maybe not even on the internet as a whole, although many would say that instructions and incitements that can aid terrorism should not be allowed to appear.

I also see nothing wrong with a moderator introducing controversial topics for those who would like this forum to be more than backslapping, games, and bitching sessions about co-workers, traffic, and hangovers.

Having said that, TP has a way of sometimes introducing topics in a way that seems intended to shock rather than inspire debate. I think the Mary/Joseph/whore speculation could have been presented so as to focus on the immaculate conception aspect of it and not put so many noses out of joint with the whore link. Muku's reaction was predictable - I kept watching to see who would be the first - because he doesn't like TP's style or much else about him. OK, but please don't try to speak for everyone else....

My personal preference, as I have posted before, would be for no "active" moderation at all, as is very successful in another forum I belong to. But obviously that would not work here.

By the way, how come some New Posts disappear before I have a chance to look at those threads? I was interested in the thread on moais the other say and it was off the New Posts board in a flash. (I found it so don't bother).

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 08:53 AM

sorry, humor didn't bring me back. I just had to reread why I came back in here, and I edited my above post to reflect that. I came back because to be able to set a mod on ignore is the same thing as getting rid of that mod. If you cannot hear a mod when he's telling you to stop something, you're not going to act on it.

It's like a police car with lights, but no siren. Only, you can't see the lights either.

Why should some other mod need to step in to tell you that another mod told you to stop doing something.

That, in effect, is getting rid of a mod.

You're right, a police car without siren or lights can be likened to a moderator on "ignore".

Using that analogy, the problem is that many consider the one driving the police car to be the perp himself.

A very simply solution can be, as suggested by posters here, to have him use alternate accounts:

- Post his personal views as a poster

- and have him perform his functions as a moderator using a separate moderator account.

P_chan

12-13-2007, 09:18 AM

The highlighted section is where I think the problems occur P. He moderates those posts heavily, only the the begining mind you, after a while he lets them go, which is annoying as well.

I agree with you on this. He moderates threads that he has started, or has an intrest in. Yet I don't see him moderating other threads as much. Maybe he does and I just don't see it, or maybe it's becuase the wording in his threads instigates "flame-like" responses. Almost like he favors his threads over threads not created by him. While, there is nothing wrong with prefering one thread over another, you should moderate all evenly.

Now is he doing this on purpose? I don't know. He very well may be doing it on accident, and I really don't want to accuse him of anything. I say that only becuase I don't like to be accused of things that I didn't do, or things I've said that were misunderstood. A good example that comes to mind was a comment I made about the zeroyon guys being bad drivers. In all honestly, it was meant to be a joke. But I left out the usual smilies and worded it poorly. Overall it was a rushed post becuase I was pressed for time. It was taken the wrong way by some users so I went back and fixed it later. Now if someone were to accuse me of being ignorant or calling all zeroyon users bad drivers, I would be a little pissed off becuase that wasn't my intentions.

DoctorP

12-13-2007, 09:24 AM

Until last last night the past couple of days here were very peaceful and many different people participated in the conversations. There was no back biting nor any problems people kept things level headed and "self-moderated" there were no "problems".

Your moderator comes back on line and what happens?

Whether it is possible or not to put TP on ignorehere dk, imho JA makes a valid point with his OP here.

I hope you open your eyes and look closely. TP came online and posted...no problems...but of course you had to lurk behind him and post in a thread he had just created without giving the thread a chance to grow. Go back over the last several "questionable" threads that TP posted...you will find your posts following right after his questioning his motives. You appear to be an instigator for that reason alone. Perhaps everyone needs to put you on ignore?

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 09:27 AM

"Originally Posted by ja_Patriot View Post
You can always see through those without character - and in the end, pity them. Judging by the content of their posts, just imagine what some of these guys are going through in real life. To some, solace in finding real manhood seem to depend on feeling some semblance of courage and self-esteem behind the skirt of a virtual world. To each his own, I guess."

Just curious, but who exactly are you talking about?

Are you without character? For one thing, seeking higher education for yourself by correspondence school and thus a better life for your family shows character and speaks volumes.

Are you caught in frustrating situations at times? The answer there can be discerned from your posts, just like the rest of us with our own issues.

Do you have a life? Although I know nothing about your personal life, there is evidence that you take the time to enjoy life, as with the recent escapade at H&R's and the forum get together.

It should be clear at this point to those to whom I did refer to.

A pure observation, not to pass judgment. And shall we say, - things do change in time.

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 10:08 AM

I hope you open your eyes and look closely. TP came online and posted...no problems...but of course you had to lurk behind him and post in a thread he had just created without giving the thread a chance to grow. Go back over the last several "questionable" threads that TP posted...you will find your posts following right after his questioning his motives. You appear to be an instigator for that reason alone. Perhaps everyone needs to put you on ignore?

That's the way to deal with those who disagree; deal with them as detractors.

Testing the waters with topics like, "Mary the Mother of Christ a Whore?" Of course expect a bunch of people who would call you out on it, not only TP, with the polite equivalent of "c*nts and perverts" for allowing it.

A vigorous reaction is an inherent part of so-called "free speech", right? I mean, you do stand by certain beliefs and principles, right?

If the criticism is hard to take, then don't allow topics which destroy the fabric of civility and decorum in this small community.

There was peace and quiet before this and other topics "testing the waters". You can't deny it, and you can't have it both ways.

DoctorP

12-13-2007, 10:45 AM

That's the way to deal with those who disagree; deal with them as detractors.

Testing the waters with topics like, "Mary the Mother of Christ a Whore?" Of course expect a bunch of people who would call you out on it, not only TP, with the polite equivalent of "c*nts and perverts" for allowing it.

A vigorous reaction is an inherent part of so-called "free speech", right? I mean, you do stand by certain beliefs and principles, right?

If the criticism is hard to take, then don't allow topics which destroy the fabric of civility and decorum in this small community.

There was peace and quiet before this and other topics "testing the waters". You can't deny it, and you can't have it both ways.

Look...it would be different if TP went into active threads and stirred up the pot, causing people to lash out...then I would see him as guilty of causing the trouble. Instead things are opposite. Muku is going into threads and stirring the pot without so much as attempting to answer the OP. Do you deny this? I really try to be open to all people and to see all angles...that is why I can sit back and let TP's threads go on...he isn't breaking the rules, and he isn't sidetracking peoples threads. There are a few here who appear to be on a witch hunt and it is getting old.

Muku

12-13-2007, 10:49 AM

I hope you open your eyes and look closely. TP came online and posted...no problems...but of course you had to lurk behind him and post in a thread he had just created without giving the thread a chance to grow. Go back over the last several "questionable" threads that TP posted...you will find your posts following right after his questioning his motives. You appear to be an instigator for that reason alone. Perhaps everyone needs to put you on ignore?

You call that no problems? No matter who or how you choose to point the blame towards if he would learn not to use language that is repugnant and offensive I would not have replied.

It isnt lurking, you are just choosing to attempt to thow the ball back in my court and make me out to be the villian here, which I disagree with.

I also do not have to "sit back" and wait for a thread to develop if I choose to answer a post as I did. There was nothing offensive nor against the rules in my replies on any of the threads in question.

I didnt instigate anything. The threads and their subject lines did that all by their lonesome, they didnt need any help from me.

I dont care, choose to put me on ignore, it is no sweat off my back, although I will say this, your post here comes across to me as if you are "circling the wagons here"

DoctorP

12-13-2007, 10:55 AM

I also do not have to "sit back" and wait for a thread to develop if I choose to answer a post as I did. There was nothing offensive nor against the rules in my replies on any of the threads in question.

You are correct...you didn't break any rules, nor were you offensive...just off topic.

I didnt instigate anything. The threads and their subject lines did that all by their lonesome, they didnt need any help from me.

We won't know that now though will we? You didn't give the thread a chance...just as you have done on several of TP's threads.

I dont care, choose to put me on ignore, it is no sweat off my back, although I will say this, your post here comes across to me as if you are "circling the wagons here"

I don't ignore anyone...it would not be appropriate. I do choose not to follow some threads, unless reported...but that is my choice to do so.

As for circling the wagons??? No need. I have done nothing wrong...you are on the defensive.

Asshat

12-13-2007, 11:42 AM

This whole thread is a joke. None of us are really all "that" important anyway. It's just words. My penis hasn't shrank from anything anyone has said here. (From other causes perhaps)

This buisness of alliances here puts the Survivor series to shame.

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand

12-13-2007, 11:48 AM

I agree with most of what you say Uminchu...but I think the "alliances" are mostly in certain people's heads.

Muku

12-13-2007, 11:55 AM

You are correct...you didn't break any rules, nor were you offensive...just off topic.
This is interesting.....why now is questioning the motivation of a person and their thread considered to be off topic? In fact questioning the motivation of a topic is very much in fact "on topic". Now whether or not you or anyone else likes the question is another point, however the questions themselves are not.

Take a look at the Miayko thread and look when my first post was, your impression and what happened are two different things. Also take another look at a number of his "other" divisive threads here....I challenge you to take a look at the one's I have replied to and the one's I didnt.

You and dk to a certain extent are make claims and accusations about the manner in which threads I do or dont post in based upon a few threads. So to say I "lurk" about TP's threads is off the reservation.

However I will say that the one's I do jump in on, I jump in with two feet and with very good reason as well. They are repugnant, offensive, and have been created purely to stir up the pot here and cause friction between the members, that is my observation, oh and it appears others as well.

Muku

12-13-2007, 12:00 PM

This buisness of alliances here puts the Survivor series to shame.
Just because some people here think alike or agree together does not mean there is any kind of alliance or clique.

People have chosen to make that assumption, I have no alliances on this board, however there are posters here that I often agree with, and I will repeat myself here. TP has written many an interesting thread here, however his tone and "use" of the vernacular recently in thread subject lines are nothing more than tag lines similarly used by supermarket tabloids to get people's attention.

It sounds to me that some here are again making an assumption about something that doesnt exist, unless it is in their own minds:rolleyes:

However at least a supermarket tabloid wont go over the line and in effect make the inference that Mary was a whore.

They know better than to write something like that, and TP should as well.

P_chan

12-13-2007, 12:35 PM

Asshat

12-13-2007, 12:38 PM

Just because some people here think alike or agree together does not mean there is any kind of alliance or clique.

True. In of itself it doesn't. But then again, I am not that stupid. I can see it easily, and I don't care about it. Just an observation about weak ass shit, that I get a chuckle about.

I am only here at work (cough) so I am generally too preoccupied to put brain power into it, so yeah, maybe I am wrong and it is just all coincidence.

Asshat

12-13-2007, 12:40 PM

I know I've been accused of forming some sort of alliance (aka "butt buddies") with some users:D. Those are false accusations of course. I've never formed any alliance with any certain group of users. There are some users I get along better with, and agree with more often. But that doesn't mean we have some sort of secret agreement or anything like that.

I've been saying this from the very first time I was accused.

Nothing secret....perhaps if it were possible, and someone were very bored, they could go and count the "thanks" posts and see just how many people "think alike" on a regular and recurring basis. :w00t:

Of course as I said above, it aint that much of a deal. I just hate predictability....but then it's better than the vision I had in my head when waiz. posted about a camera left on, being horny and having a four-some.
:barf:

ja_Patriot

12-13-2007, 01:04 PM

Alliances?

I wake up each morning with a clear conscience, independent of what others may think.

There are a few here who definitely need some type of support group to survive. One is a lackey and the other is obsessed with his small penis for some reason.

And those who I'd like to meet some day and build up friendships with, well, we probably share certain philosophies in dealing with issues in life and operate under similar principles of decency and common sense.

P_chan

12-13-2007, 01:08 PM

Yes but not all users use the thanks option for the same reason. I give out thanks not only for good points that I agree with, but for good points in general. I also give thanks to funny jokes/pictures/videos too!

So counting my thanks to see who I'm in alliance with, wouldn't work.

P_chan

12-13-2007, 01:09 PM

Of course as I said above, it aint that much of a deal. I just hate predictability....but then it's better than the vision I had in my head when waiz. posted about a camera left on, being horny and having a four-some.

We think alike my friend:D

TheLastDon

12-13-2007, 01:11 PM

Alliances?? How can I join one? I don't want to be voted off the island. <3

Asshat

12-13-2007, 01:30 PM

Alliances?? How can I join one? I don't want to be voted off the island. <3

Okay, it's you and me buddy! FTW!

Asshat

12-13-2007, 01:31 PM

We think alike my friend:D

I hate being a predictable male too. The older I get, the more selective I get....or maybe it's the pills.

But yeah. I hope the other dogs get the hint too. (wink)

Go-Shay

12-13-2007, 01:42 PM

sexual innuendos just add extra flavor to the stew:thumbup:

TheLastDon

12-13-2007, 01:44 PM

Okay, it's you and me buddy! FTW!

Cool, who do we vote off first. :thumbup:

Asshat

12-13-2007, 01:48 PM

sexual innuendos just add extra flavor to the stew:thumbup:

sexual innuendos? Italian suppositories?

Asshat

12-13-2007, 01:49 PM

Cool, who do we vote off first. :thumbup:

Can't be Muku! He's butt snorkeled his way right into our team with his credit donation. Hmmm. So if Muku is on our team, who do we have to like now, and hit the "thanks" button on?

Muku

12-13-2007, 02:11 PM

Can't be Muku! He's butt snorkeled his way right into our team with his credit donation. Hmmm. So if Muku is on our team, who do we have to like now, and hit the "thanks" button on?
You just made mespit my teeth out on that remark....thanks I needed a good laugh right about now.:old: :w00t:

DocTurtle

12-14-2007, 06:19 AM

This thread is awesome, lol.

hankypanky

12-14-2007, 11:37 AM

I hate being a predictable male too. The older I get, the more selective I get....or maybe it's the pills.

But yeah. I hope the other dogs get the hint too. (wink)

Gotcha corner man. But i don't remember you looking that buffed when you came into the joint, maybe it was the awamori:D

Asshat

12-14-2007, 12:04 PM

Gotcha corner man. But i don't remember you looking that buffed when you came into the joint, maybe it was the awamori:D

Hey did you check out my ass Hank? :D

Your puppy dog thought I was a cool dood, until I made kissy noises. Sorta freaked her out, like all the other women.

Bones

12-14-2007, 09:37 PM

I am so glad that I did not attend.:thumbdown:

NBTP:old:

Galina

12-15-2007, 04:34 AM

Just leave TP alone. Leave him be

Galina

12-15-2007, 09:46 AM

I Love the threads he starts. It makes one really think. And brings out different answers. Opinions. I have no problem with TP. In fact I look forward to them and hope he/she continues to bring out more thoughtful subjects.

ryukyuboi

12-15-2007, 11:39 AM

Same people continually complaining about TP, like these complainers are on a revenge mission. Give it a rest already.

I agree with you, Galina, concerning TP.

Muku

12-15-2007, 12:49 PM

I am so glad that I did not attend.:thumbdown:

NBTP:old:
Not to heat up this thread again but...oh hell yes let's.....:eek:

This thread is a perfect example of threads that dont get moderated for going off topic, even though it's an off topic thread.:rolleyes::D

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand

12-15-2007, 12:54 PM

Gee, it looks like the topic came back on-message all on its own, without any help. Perhaps Steve's suggestion of minimal moderation (from his experience elsewhere) was something to seriously consider.

ja_Patriot

12-15-2007, 02:52 PM

After a while you get used to TP. If the forum host and owner allows it, let him express his thoughts and define his own limits.

Maybe that's his way of getting his own issues off his back and questions off his mind, with the freedom everyone else in this forum is given.

And from my end and those with opposing views, learn to practice the virtue of tolerance and restraint.

As far as this thread is concerned, let's just say that:

(a) I said what I had to say out of principle; interact in this forum as you would speaking to a real person in front of you, with due respect and discernment;

(b) Should things go out of hand, which I don't foresee, this corner of the forum provides a place to vocalize objections in future.

Muku

12-15-2007, 04:08 PM

(a) I said what I had to say out of principle; interact in this forum as you would speaking to a real person in front of you, with due respect and discernment;

You know damn near everything I write here I would say to any individual's face.

Certain things in my opinion are not due any respect.

Some of the topics that get put here would not be discussed while out for a drink with the guys either.

ryukyuboi

12-15-2007, 04:18 PM

Is the criteria for a topic to be discussed/posted based on what YOU find appropriate to discuss with the GUYS over alcohol?

TheNoNamedOne

12-15-2007, 04:21 PM

Is the criteria for a topic to be discussed/posted based on what YOU find appropriate to discuss with the GUYS over alcohol?

Yeah, I kinda found that strange, too, Ryukyuboi, particularly when alcohol can be an explosive additive to topics. I guess that just leaves the safe stuff -- like weather or comments objectifying women -- like NSFW stuff.

Muku

12-15-2007, 04:56 PM

Is the criteria for a topic to be discussed/posted based on what YOU find appropriate to discuss with the GUYS over alcohol?

You'd have to go out and have a drink with me to find that one out:D

ryukyuboi

12-15-2007, 05:10 PM

Thanks for the offer, but I don't drink alcohol. I would still socialize with you, though.

Muku

12-15-2007, 05:22 PM

Thanks for the offer, but I don't drink alcohol. I would still socialize with you, though.
Me with you as well! Thank you!

ja_Patriot

12-15-2007, 10:02 PM

You know damn near everything I write here I would say to any individual's face.

I don't think everyone can say that and there are no two ways about it. You're a stand-up guy, Muku.

Mad Hatter

12-15-2007, 10:12 PM

The thing that I like most about actually meeting someone verses just chatting on the forum... Like muku said at the JU meet... you put a face to a name. at first, I didn't think that would matter, but it has...

I think that if more people would show up at the next JU meet... they could get that same feeling. We talked about alot of different topic while we were adding ourselves with an "explosive additive".

I think that the people that wen to the meet understand this better. Not that i'm putting anyone down that didn't go, Hope you guys understand

12-15-2007, 10:20 PM

I completely understand. And I hope that the people who didn't come will come next time so they understand as well. That was one of the top highlights of my year, if not the top. I don't know if that's sad, but hell, I had a great time. :D

socalheart

12-15-2007, 10:44 PM

I wouldn't say that putting a face to a forum name would be the same as associating a personality with the name. I look forward to meeting y'all, but I don't promise that I speak as articulately as I write. heh. What am I supposed to understand by going next time, dk? I'm easily confused these days. :D

12-15-2007, 11:00 PM

What am I supposed to understand by going next time, dk?
The bonding, dude. Like, man. Ever since that night, wow. :p

It was just a cool night. The people who were there seem to treat each other differently on the forums. If I read a post by Doug, or Muku, or Fonze, or P_chan, or Ammo, I see their faces now. They're more than just a username.

I hope people don't chicken out or suddenly become too busy for the next one. It was totally worth it.

12-15-2007, 11:01 PM

I don't promise that I speak as articulately as I write.
You don't have to. Nobody will care. We'll all just be happy to meet you. :D

And, by then, the baby too! :D

I'm not exactly a public speaker either. :o

Muku

12-15-2007, 11:06 PM

Look ok I may have had a few too to drink tonight but I would like to say one thing....

Here I am and I admit I can be a ROYAL pain in the ass.........I push shit with people here dk, DocP, TP, and others as well. I am an equal opportunity ass. However in reality I think that I am a pretty easy going person, the persona that I show here is not that far from what I am in real life, however I would say that I would use different language to say the same thing if it was face to face.

I am not perfect and have many faults. But I am willing to listen. However I am conscious of the language that people use....here on this forum is one thing, face to face is another. I humbly submit that people here, including myself as well think about that too.

If that makes me an asshole, so be it, I dont see myself changing though, because as much as I work at respecting everyones thoughts, ideas, and opinions I still think and feel the way I do

Damn I must be getting introspective tonight....just had a really great bonenekai..........:D

12-15-2007, 11:21 PM

Damn I must be getting introspective tonight....just had a really great bonenekai..........:D
That's probably it. :p

I've got two of those next week... :dead:

However in reality I think that I am a pretty easy going person, the persona that I show here is not that far from what I am in real life, however I would say that I would use different language to say the same thing if it was face to face.
And yeah, I agree, and I understand, because I do the same thing. I'm a little bit more aggressive online, but who isn't. Even in an online classroom setting, I make a better leader than I do in a regular old classroom.

DougP

12-15-2007, 11:43 PM

Man this thread is still going:D

Muku

12-16-2007, 12:32 AM

Man this thread is still going:D
Your turn.......:first:

TheLastDon

12-16-2007, 12:45 AM

Shyat, I am totally fffed up but I love you guys.:w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t:

12-16-2007, 01:08 AM

Shyat, I am totally fffed up but I love you guys.:w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t:
LOL what is this? Get drunk day?

I'd probably be working on it, but I have to be Santa tomorrow morning bright and early. Which is rediculous, because I'm skinny as hell, but all the kids are 1-5 years old, so oh well...

TheLastDon

12-16-2007, 01:10 AM

It's Saturday and today was our bonenkai!

You can do the Santa thing DK!!!!

DougP

12-16-2007, 01:15 AM

LOL what is this? Get drunk day?

I'd probably be working on it, but I have to be Santa tomorrow morning bright and early. Which is rediculous, because I'm skinny as hell, but all the kids are 1-5 years old, so oh well...

Funny you mentioned that because next Saturday I'm supposed to do the same thing. Kids will be young as well and they don't speak teh eigo from what I'm told.:D Yeah this should be good.:(:argh3:

12-16-2007, 01:19 AM

It's Saturday and today was our bonenkai!
Heh, next weekend, I'm going to be a mess on Friday AND Saturday. TWO bonenkai! :dead: Probably be hungover until Monday night...

But I'm also turning in some final projects for a college course, so I can celebrate that too! And bonus time (almost)! Oh my... I might get all sorts of messed up...

12-16-2007, 01:21 AM

Funny you mentioned that because next Saturday I'm supposed to do the same thing. Kids will be young as well and they don't speak teh eigo from what I'm told.:D Yeah this should be good.:(:argh3:
I'm nervous as hell. :(

I'm trying to not think too much about it, so I've just been watching LOST tonight to distract me...

Might have to steal some money from my wife tomorrow and go to Hank's just for therapy... :p

TheLastDon

12-16-2007, 01:25 AM

Dang it I want to go drinking with you and Doug and P-Chan and Muku and MH and everybody else! I am totally drunk off my ass.

12-16-2007, 01:46 AM

Hmmm... Next weekend I have bonenkai's... Maybe the week after? Or tomorrow night? lol...

We are planning the next JU get together on January 19 though. We just haven't determined a location.

DougP

12-16-2007, 01:46 AM

I'm nervous as hell. :(

I'm trying to not think too much about it, so I've just been watching LOST tonight to distract me...

Might have to steal some money from my wife tomorrow and go to Hank's just for therapy... :p

Oh man don't go giving me any ideas.:D

12-16-2007, 01:47 AM

Oh man don't go giving me any ideas.:D
Hard to restrain myself lmao...

Muku

12-16-2007, 10:04 AM

LOL what is this? Get drunk day?
Last night was a warm up.....:w00t: However if I have too many warmups like that I am going to be :dead::dead:.

It's the time of the year, time to be jolly, that Christmas cheer, Ho,ho,ho, crap and.....:rolleyes::D

I would say that between last night and January 3rd or so I will have 13 bonenkai's and New Year's parties to attend, but there is no friggin way I am going to go to all of them. Dont want people here to start thinking I am an alcoholic or something.....but if it's there I am going to drink it. Damn I love Okinawa and it's "events"

In January I think I might need either artificial resusitation or AA, just have to see which.:w00t: