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Go-Shay
11-27-2007, 08:30 AM
Interesting article on a group of gentlemen that are trying to undo the last 30 or so years of a bad marriage. It gives some in site into the marriage life of the salary men in Japan

Learn to be nice to your wife, or pay the price (www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2007/11/25/ST2007112501768.html)

I like the way one chap put it that Japan is a "peaceful country but our households are at war" :w00t:

swindland
11-27-2007, 09:56 AM
Very interesting article.

hankypanky
11-27-2007, 11:39 AM
Message is, Don't get a salary job!! Self Employment:first:

socalheart
11-27-2007, 02:55 PM
heh. It reminds me of that movie with Kim Bassinger (?) where she tells the Japanese wife that she can receive half of her husband's money in a divorce since moving to California.

I find it amusing and sad that the threat of losing their money and pension is the primary reason for many of those men to want to save their marriages. I wonder what brought about the law in the first place. It's long been the custom for the Japanese family to simply accept whatever the father says and does. It does remind me of the stories about married and family life during the fifties in America though. heh.

thistle
11-27-2007, 03:48 PM
I like the part at the end where one man said he can say 'I love you' if I am drunk!
May be interesting for a new thread, how often do you say 'I love you'.

I have noticed American's say it umpteen times a day. Japanese never say it.
Europeans say it sometimes, but not every day I don't think.

I think I would go crazy if I felt I had to say it after every conversation, I think it is just something you should say when you feel like it.

Asshat
11-28-2007, 04:31 AM
I find it amusing and sad that the threat of losing their money and pension is the primary reason for many of those men to want to save their marriages.

And what about the women who marry for money and pensions? (I call them prostitutes)

If you do some research on the FSPA (that is the fabled 50 percent retirement the military person gives an ex spouse) you will see some horror stories.

A good friend of mine is a divorce attorney in NYC. He wrote yesterday and complained that his buisness is way down because of the current economy. He said couples are deciding to stay married because they can't afford to divorce.

He said divorce is currently a luxury item only the rich can afford.

I currently give an ex 40%.

Fonze
11-28-2007, 10:57 AM
What is the time in marriage needed to recieve part of a salary mans money?

It's 10years for service members isn't it?

Asshat
11-28-2007, 11:04 AM
What is the time in marriage needed to recieve part of a salary mans money?

It's 10years for service members isn't it?

There is no min. or max. time limit. Theoretically, a couple may be married a year. During the divorce, the court may allow the non-military spouse to receive 1/20th of the military spouses retirement.

Then 20 years later, when one of them retires, the former spouse would get that part of the retirement. Of course what the court decides has a lot to do with how long they were married. The result is that for military people, the retirement is considered a marital asset like a home or a car. This doesn't happen in other career fields for some reason.

The ten year thing everyone talks about is this: DFAS-those wonderful people who control all money for the DoD including pay- will guarentee garnishment of a retirees paycheck based on what a state court says. That's all that ten year thing refers to.

socalheart
11-28-2007, 11:30 AM
The ten year thing also applies to social security. After ten years of marriage, the wife is eligible to receive half of the husband's social security payments after divorce. There are exceptions as defined by the SSA.
If you are divorced after at least 10 years of marriage, you can collect retirement benefits on your former spouse's Social Security record if you are at least age 62 and if your former spouse is entitled to or receiving benefits.
Source: SSA (http://www.socialsecurity.gov/gethelp1.htm)
Anyone find something similar about the Japanese version of this? I'm just curious, since it doesn't apply to me.

Ammoyankee
11-28-2007, 01:23 PM
It would be less hassle to make her disappear!

Asshat
11-28-2007, 01:53 PM
It would be less hassle to make her disappear!

At times, that option wends it's evil little way right into my brain....especially when I compute the total amount of money over the next 20 years. :)

hankypanky
11-28-2007, 05:15 PM
Being in this boat i can comment. My ex was married to me for 14 out of 20 years active. She receives 35% by the courts. Whitch is automatically taken out of my pay direct to her. that's for life, either her's or mine. Social security does not go to the ex if the member remarries.


In reality, a women could marry a guy every 6-8 years, starting at age 20, marry 5 times at age 60 be getting a very healthy check every month as long as each one of her past husbands retired.

Had a friend who pumped out at 18 years just so the bitch would'nt get any retirement from him:thumbup:

Asshat
11-29-2007, 07:55 AM
Being in this boat i can comment. My ex was married to me for 14 out of 20 years active. She receives 35% by the courts. Whitch is automatically taken out of my pay direct to her. that's for life, either her's or mine. Social security does not go to the ex if the member remarries.
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Hank, I beat the system as good as I could. With my VA disability, her cut comes after the VA does the take and give thing.

Small price to pay for 21 years of dragging the drunk bitch out of bars.

hankypanky
11-29-2007, 08:24 AM
Well if was she who was dragging my drunk ass out of bars, at least tried for a 90lb woman to haul a 200 lb piece of meat!