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DocTurtle
11-21-2007, 12:48 PM
So what are you going to do if you win the JU Lottery?

Tempestuous
11-21-2007, 12:55 PM
Didn't even know there was one!

Until you posted this, I hadn't even opened the casino.

DocTurtle
11-21-2007, 12:57 PM
What are you waiting on then :D

Fonze
11-21-2007, 01:38 PM
im gonna buy ahouse and 10 cars and give away all my money.

ststephen65
11-21-2007, 01:53 PM
Im Going To Make The Avatar Ive Always Dreamed Of......

TheLastDon
11-21-2007, 02:09 PM
Darn nobody won.:(:thumbdown::( Rip off:cursing::5:

socalheart
11-21-2007, 03:02 PM
How do you play it? :confused:

TheLastDon
11-21-2007, 03:04 PM
All you have to do is buy some tickets, you can pick th number you want or let the computer pick. $5 each

socalheart
11-23-2007, 07:54 PM
Draw Date Numbers Winners
11-23-2007: 20,21,22,26,28
What the heck kind of randomizer draws this? :cursing: That's practically counting. :rolleyes:

Mad Hatter
11-23-2007, 08:03 PM
Each time.. I spend about 900 cerdits on the drawings... I never win, but I have realized that I might have a problem

dk
11-23-2007, 08:10 PM
Who needs the lottery when you have roulette! :D

dk
11-23-2007, 08:32 PM
Oh snap lol. I went from 100k+ credits down to 382 credits...

I guess I got a little too greedy w/ roulette! I just wasn't ready to step up my game to 3000 credits per spin!

Fonze
11-23-2007, 08:56 PM
hey dk do you even need credits to play or are you going to be gov't status and pick a couple credits here and there from all of us?

wow u need some credits?

TheLastDon
11-23-2007, 09:00 PM
Win some, lose eh DK. Or for some people; win some, lose a lot.

dk
11-23-2007, 09:13 PM
I'm not complaining. I went from 36,000 credits to like 120,000 credits today I think. And then down to like 300 credits... I can do it again. It just took a long time...

dk
11-23-2007, 09:15 PM
hey dk do you even need credits to play or are you going to be gov't status and pick a couple credits here and there from all of us?
I'm gonna earn credits the same way you guys do: by posting and stuff. I'll work my way up from the bottom. Not the first time I've ever had to do it.

I will take handouts from some of our richer members though! Anyone wanna loan me 30k credits so I can get back on track! lol.

NaNaKo
11-23-2007, 09:19 PM
The computer knows what numbers we have for the lottery; so it picks completely different numbers for us to lose. Dang the Matrix! :scared:

Fonze
11-23-2007, 09:29 PM
I will take handouts from some of our richer members though! Anyone wanna loan me 30k credits so I can get back on track! lol.

(whisper) tp

dk
11-23-2007, 09:29 PM
LOLOL I should rob TP!!! :D

Cute avatar.

dk
11-23-2007, 09:33 PM
Yay, my wife gave me back some of the credits I gave her! <3

ja_Patriot
11-23-2007, 10:27 PM
How about increasing credits per post or thread created?

Or earning credits every time you pull on the slots or bet on the tables, just like a casino loyalty program?

Don't know if any of that is possible, but it shouldn't cost the house much of anything.

On the contrary, you shall have obtained our eternal goodwill as casino patrons. ;-)

Fonze
11-23-2007, 10:58 PM
f#$% this damn casino it just took 15,500 credits from me. That damn 1,000 chip.

dk
11-23-2007, 11:23 PM
f#$% this damn casino it just took 15,500 credits from me. That damn 1,000 chip.
Welcome to the poorhouse. :D

There IS a 10,000 chip, I just haven't added it yet. That'd kill the casinos...

Fonze
11-23-2007, 11:26 PM
i think 250 should be the limit. I fear this high chip might be the end to the casino.

ja_Patriot
11-23-2007, 11:49 PM
Any ideas on how we can get more points. I blew thru 4,000 points generously given by dk and I'm supposed to be a good video poker player.

I think I'll just stick to World Series of Poker on Wii.

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 12:20 AM
Yes it seems everybody is in a gambling mood today. I just lost most of my credits as well.:ohmy:

I am just testing how much we have to post to earn credits. I haven't seen it explained yet. I might be mistaken but I didn't see a list that said how many credits you get per post or how many for staring a thread.

Of course maybe that would be a bad thing. Who knows, I guess i should start posting more but I haven't seen any discussion I wanted to join in on today.

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 12:40 AM
Perhaps dk could review that for us, TLD. I think you got one credit per word in each post -- or maybe it was one credit per each letter character. Sorry, I have forgotten.

Look at my credits, btw. I save. I am rich rich rich.

Muku
11-24-2007, 12:48 AM
Welcome to the poorhouse. :D

There IS a 10,000 chip, I just haven't added it yet. That'd kill the casinos...

After I hit the lottery would you puti n the 10,000 chip?

Fonze
11-24-2007, 12:48 AM
im broke now

Muku
11-24-2007, 12:50 AM
im broke now
Use it wisely!:thumbup:

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 12:52 AM
TP,

I don't think you save, you just don't use them for anything. Well, I guess that is saving. What I'm saying? I don't know half the time.

I know I am not drinking that is for sure. I wish I could have a drink but I am on pain meds for my knee.

Muku
11-24-2007, 12:57 AM
TP,

I don't think you save, you just don't use them for anything. Well, I guess that is saving. What I'm saying? I don't know half the time.

I know I am not drinking that is for sure. I wish I could have a drink but I am on pain meds for my knee.

Dont worry he will only be on "top" until someone hits the lottery!:thumbup1:

Oh and I will drink one for you!:D

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 12:58 AM
Gee thanks Muku, what a pal!:thumbdown:

dk
11-24-2007, 01:01 AM
After I hit the lottery would you puti n the 10,000 chip?
I'll put it in after I pass the 200,000 credits mark...

dk
11-24-2007, 01:02 AM
Dont worry he will only be on "top" until someone hits the lottery!:thumbup1:

Oh and I will drink one for you!:D
I had triple his amount of credits earlier today... He's only at the top because he doesn't have anything to use them on.

Muku
11-24-2007, 01:04 AM
Gee thanks Muku, what a pal!:thumbdown:
What you talkin' about:w00t:

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 01:04 AM
Dont worry he will only be on "top" until someone hits the lottery!:thumbup1:

Oh and I will drink one for you!:D

I'll always be on top because I'm like Ben Franklin -- "a penny saved is a penny earned."

Sooner or later you reckless gamblers will lose your windfall from whatever jackpot you hit.

Look at me: I'm rich rich rich.

Muku
11-24-2007, 01:05 AM
I had triple his amount of credits earlier today... He's only at the top because he doesn't have anything to use them on.
It's his choice .....there are plenty out here that are wanting though!:w00t:

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 01:06 AM
:thumbup1:Ohhhh who gave me credits? Thank you!:thumbup1:

Muku
11-24-2007, 01:06 AM
I'll always be on top because I'm like Ben Franklin -- "a penny saved is a penny earned."

Sooner or later you reckless gamblers will lose your windfall from whatever jackpot you hit.

Look at me: I'm rich rich rich.
What ya gonna do when dk gives someone 100,000 credits?

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 01:07 AM
What you talkin' about:w00t:

Thanks for drinking one for me.:thumbup: You're a pal.

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 01:26 AM
What ya gonna do when dk gives someone 100,000 credits?

Won't bother me. Don't understand why though he would like to undermine the system he installed for a reason. The purpose of this system I would say is to make members work at being in the community and to earn their money by being somewhat active participants in the discussion. If he isn't going to respect it then I would just say make the arcade free again OR give a 1,000,000,000,000 credits to everyone to blow for fun. A fun part of gambling in a system like this I would think would be to try and mirror a real world like situation, which I find interesting, where consequences count for something and where you have to earn your keep and pull yourself up.

It would be great if admin power could decrease due to the printing of money because of inflation caused by his actions in distributing money freely. IN that case, dk, would sure stop giving people money and let the free market reign. As it is now with giving money, he is kinda like an undisciplined young and naive China that doesn't understand money.

Now, if dk is giving the credits from his own stash, then that is wrong above. But if he is creating credits from the admin control panels, then it fits, kinda.

[dk, this is just an analogy on the point of giving credits -- that's all. Nothing more.]

dk
11-24-2007, 01:42 AM
I've only ever given credits from my own stash aside from the initial point where I gave the top ten posters a certain amount of credits per post. I'm positive I know what I'm doing.

I found a stock market system that works with these credits that I'm considering installing. I know, maybe overkill, but I'm just looking to find ways to make these credits useful for a lot of different types of people.

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 01:49 AM
If all credits have come from your own stash after the initial influx was awarded to everyone, then I don't see any undermining of the system. Looks good that way.

I find the whole concept of a forum economy quite interesting. I just hope that economy can find ways to be more useful than just gaming. Like perhaps you should charge a member everytime they change their avatar, or charge for using a flash moving avatar. These are all things, and I am sure there are others, where an economy of credits can be put to use. Such an economy would encourage more discussion participation, and I also think it would make this forum quite uniqe from others and stand out.

dk
11-24-2007, 01:56 AM
I'm open to all options at this time. Right now I'm just waiting for the makers of http://www.vbcredits.com/ to finish up on their vbcommerce app. Right now, I've done pretty much everything I can do until that application comes out.

Info: http://www.vbcredits.com/projects/vbcommerce/index.php

dk
11-24-2007, 01:59 AM
And if I deleted that post, you'd lose the credits (and then some) which is why it's not a good idea to spam the forums this way.

P_chan
11-24-2007, 02:01 AM
I can has credits?

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 02:02 AM
Ok, I get it now.

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 02:05 AM
Perhaps using the "Thanks" button, too, should be charged for. Bolding letters, or using colored fonts could be charged for. As well as smilies. Man, there are a lot of things that could be put into the store to purchase to create an economy, and it would tell us what people value most.

We would have our own little sociological studies with real personalities more clearly defined.

The only thing that should not be charged should be plain text posting and thread creation. Those should always just be the work one does to get paid. All other frills, pay for them, and where they should not be bought for a permanent basis, they should be rented on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis.

P_chan
11-24-2007, 02:05 AM
Hell I'd invest at least half my credits in the JU forum stock market just for the hell of it.

Can you make up phony stocks? If you can, then each member can make their own goofy stock for people to buy. Mine would be stock in a E Peen spray that increases you E Peen size! PEPE could be the handle for it on the JU stock market! PEPE=P_chan's E-Peen Enlargement Spray!

P_chan
11-24-2007, 02:06 AM
I think paying for thanks is a stupid idea IMO. After all, you just thanking someone one for a good post, why should you pay for it?

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 02:08 AM
What if you went the other way and got credits for being thanked?

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 02:09 AM
I think paying for thanks is a stupid idea IMO. After all, you just thanking someone one for a good post, why should you pay for it?

lol. Just like the real world. People want to keep things for free.

If thanking someone is more important than gambling, then you'd have no issue with paying for it.

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 02:11 AM
What if you went the other way and got credits for being thanked?

I think that is interesting, TLD. But, the credits for receiving would have to be less than what it costs to give -- otherwise a backslapping attaboy brigade could be creating a net plus gain of credits to each other.

There would have to be a diminishing return to prevent that.

But both sides of the Thanks could be a very interesting and integral part of the economy. It would make it more dynamic.

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 02:13 AM
Charge for using the "invisible" feature as well. Charge for sending a PM. Charge for opening a PM.

Man, there are just a lot of great ways to make an economy not addicted to the gaming aspect of the forum.

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 02:19 AM
TP you have some interesting ideas, the only question is can it be done?

dk
11-24-2007, 09:24 AM
I think paying for thanks is a stupid idea IMO. After all, you just thanking someone one for a good post, why should you pay for it?
I agree. Thanking someone is participating. If anything, you should get credits for it in my opinion, just as you'd get credits for participating in a poll or posting a reply.

Edit: Not saying its a stupid idea or dumb idea. I shouldn't post replies before fully waking up. What I mean is, I don't see it as necessary.

dk
11-24-2007, 09:27 AM
TP you have some interesting ideas, the only question is can it be done?
It's all up to how far the guys at vbcredits.com take their upcoming vbcommerce program. I personally am not going to be doing any programming for this forum. This is something I sink my freetime into just as a nice thing to do and I really am not going to do any programming at home after working a 10-6 as a programmer. So, we'll see. I'm sure some of it is possible, but we're limited to what they build into vbcommerce.

Muku
11-24-2007, 09:46 AM
I agree. Thanking someone is participating. If anything, you should get credits for it in my opinion, just as you'd get credits for participating in a poll or posting a reply.

I agree as well however where would it end?

How about fining people for spelling mistakes?:eek:

A stock market would be one thing but the main point of this forum is the forum and if any of these ideas were brought into the forum I could easily see some people being turned off to participating here because everything was based on "money". :thumbdown:

P_chan
11-24-2007, 09:51 AM
lol. Just like the real world. People want to keep things for free.

If thanking someone is more important than gambling, then you'd have no issue with paying for it.

No it's just dumb. The only reason your in favor for it is because you never use the feature. So why should we pay to use it? Because we use the thanks button for different reasons then you? Seems like you just don't want us to give out and receive any thanks because you don't like the reasons we use it for IMO. So your trying to curb it's use in your favor.

Like muku said, it's like being fined for making spelling and grammar mistakes.

Muku
11-24-2007, 10:20 AM
lol. Just like the real world. People want to keep things for free.

If thanking someone is more important than gambling, then you'd have no issue with paying for it.
If this is your version of reality than I can understand a bit better your reasoning behind some of these suggestions of yours.


Oh and "if":rolleyes: this was the real world, I think you and a few other people here would need to stay in hiding, like Salaman Rushdie.:)

dk
11-24-2007, 10:22 AM
Anothing thing to consider is that I am not fully trying to turn this into a simulation of a real-world economy. This isn't a social experiment. The credits, the arcade, and the casino are all there just for fun. No hidden agendas. I think the economic stats would be cool just to have something to analyze and play with, but it's not something I take all that seriously. When the "just for fun" factor starts to vanish, the purpose is defeated.

Muku
11-24-2007, 10:36 AM
Anothing thing to consider is that I am not fully trying to turn this into a simulation of a real-world economy. This isn't a social experiment. The credits, the arcade, and the casino are all there just for fun. No hidden agendas. I think the economic stats would be cool just to have something to analyze and play with, but it's not something I take all that seriously. When the "just for fun" factor starts to vanish, the purpose is defeated.

Thank goodness, I have enough of reality everyday that I dont want to have to deal with it here as well:rolleyes:.

Next thing you know people might start asking for diaper changing services to be included as well:w00t:


The fun factor is what makes this board interesting.

ja_Patriot
11-24-2007, 11:50 AM
Anothing thing to consider is that I am not fully trying to turn this into a simulation of a real-world economy. This isn't a social experiment. The credits, the arcade, and the casino are all there just for fun. No hidden agendas. I think the economic stats would be cool just to have something to analyze and play with, but it's not something I take all that seriously. When the "just for fun" factor starts to vanish, the purpose is defeated.


I always have fun coming to site so best to keep it that way.

The arcade and casinos are nice extras. Some care for these more than others but, along with the new photo site, it does show the huge effort by the administration to provide a quality website.

The casino sucks, as I mentioned in another thread and the payback has to be calibrated. Otherwise more points should be given for people who actively participate and actually post.

The other thing I noticed is this. Next time, when you give "bonus points" try to include and recognize the top 20 or 30. Those of us who joined a little later participate in this forum just as actively and some of us "newer" members don't just post "quickies" and do spend the time to give these forums a real opinion.

Cathleen_38
11-24-2007, 12:00 PM
I Got The Tickets In>> Hopefully< I Win

dk
11-24-2007, 12:18 PM
The other thing I noticed is this. Next time, when you give "bonus points" try to include and recognize the top 20 or 30. Those of us who joined a little later participate in this forum just as actively and some of us "newer" members don't just post "quickies" and do spend the time to give these forums a real opinion.
I've been thinking of other ways to earn credits, and that photo/graphics contest is one way. We could also do poetry contests, short story contests, essay contests, or thread of the week, etc. Basically, any idea you guys can come up for a contest is a potential idea to earn credits, and like I said in another thread, the reward will most likely be in the tens of thousands of credits. Either that or 1000 credits per vote you get (top three winners only), so if you invite new members to vote for you, you win more. You can also get credits for referring friends to these forums. Basically, the more people help these forums thrive, the better they do in terms of credits (and other potential prizes).

I'm very open to new ideas. I would love to hear of any ideas you guys might have. I think right now we're still a little too small and inactive for these contests to really take off, so it'd be great if we could grow just a little bit more before launching our first. I'd hate to see the winning selections only have like eight votes...

Thanks for your excellent post on this matter. The casino does kind of suck as far as payouts are concerned, but I'm first-hand evidence that roulette works. I went from like 36k credits yesterday to 120k+ credits and back down to 400 credits on a huge loss... And I found a way to make Texas Hold 'Em higher stakes, so that might be a very positive thing to do eventually too as credits merely move from one person to another. I don't really care for slots, blackjack, and the other more luck-based games though...

P_chan
11-24-2007, 12:20 PM
So if you have photo contests, that will be a separate from the graphic contests correct?

dk
11-24-2007, 12:20 PM
So if you have photo contests, that will be a separate from the graphic contests correct?
Correct!:thumbup1:

I'd like to potentially have contests that cover everyone's strengths--even outside of photography, graphics, and writing. I just don't know how to do it yet.

P_chan
11-24-2007, 12:21 PM
Awesome, I think i would enjoy the photo contests. Maybe I'll submit a P_chan original for the graphic contest too:thumbup:

dk
11-24-2007, 12:22 PM
Awesome, I think i would enjoy the photo contests. Maybe I'll submit a P_chan original for the graphic contest too:thumbup:
This might motivate me to start working on my graphics skills again too. :p

dk
11-24-2007, 12:23 PM
Stuff
Aw man... That was always my favorite avatar on another forum I used to frequent. Only it was animated, and her boobs bounced. That is what first turned me on to Reon Kadena... :D

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 01:09 PM
DK , how about the sports betting; do you have to enter all the information manually? I was looking on the vBulletin web site but haven't found the information yet. I'll keep looking.

Should we make a poll to see how many people would be interested in it?

dk
11-24-2007, 01:19 PM
Give me a sporting event and potential outcomes and I'll try adding one. I think DocP tried adding one and ran into a few problems, but maybe they were fixed since the last patch I installed.

Gimme something at least a week out so people have time to bet on it.

TheProsecutor
11-24-2007, 01:39 PM
TP you have some interesting ideas, the only question is can it be done?

Thanks, TLD.

As you may notice, though, those who have the level of 3rd grade discourse who are piqued by something "out of the box" come in, as if on cue, to just declare things "stupid" or "dumb." Guess I should dumb down speech and ideas for them to that for which they are traditionally more accustomed to.

Thanks again, TLD.

Fonze
11-24-2007, 03:16 PM
No tp i think you are trying to nuke shit. Dk you have done a good job, keep it up.

I Like muku said if this was real life some posters would stay invisible.

TheLastDon
11-24-2007, 03:35 PM
Well, I do agree it is possible to go overboard with the credit options, there are different things that could be tried. I don't think it's fair to shoot down peoples ideas.

I do suggest researching the vBulletin web site before recommending new things to add.

I do not have any complaints with how the system is running so far. I have faith in DK's judgement to add or try new things at his own pace. He is doing a great job. IMO

socalheart
11-24-2007, 04:05 PM
Turning the forum into a social commerce experiment might diminish the enjoyable aspect of the forums. Being penalized to emphasize your posts may reduce participation exponentially. Charging members to post in a unique way sits poorly with me. If anything, there should be more ways to earn credits to play the games.


Awesome, I think i would enjoy the photo contests. Maybe I'll submit a P_chan original for the graphic contest too:thumbup:
I am a feared. :eek: heh.

Muku
11-24-2007, 05:13 PM
Aw man... That was always my favorite avatar on another forum I used to frequent. Only it was animated, and her boobs bounced. That is what first turned me on to Reon Kadena... :D

They are supposed to bounce here as well:-| Dont know why they arent working.

dk
11-24-2007, 05:25 PM
They are supposed to bounce here as well:-| Dont know why they arent working.
Maybe the music stopped. Or maybe she's listening to AFN. Ooooooooooooooooooh burn!!!

Muku
11-24-2007, 05:29 PM
Maybe the music stopped. Or maybe she's listening to AFN. Ooooooooooooooooooh burn!!!

I know now, I downloaded the avatar to my computer, the link is too large to upload here...that's why she isnt animated here.:o

Reon Kadena Animated Avatar (http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r10/tomovuk/reonkadena24tt.gif)

Muku
11-24-2007, 05:36 PM
Thanks, TLD.

As you may notice, though, those who have the level of 3rd grade discourse who are piqued by something "out of the box" come in, as if on cue, to just declare things "stupid" or "dumb."


Just because someone may come across that way doesn't mean that their comments or opinions are any less or any more important than yours or mine for that matter. Your arrogance is showing itself here again.:thumbdown:

Everyone here is equal, it's just people like you that like to come across as if you are better than anyone else. That is not the case.

And just because someone says "stupid" or "dumb" about an idea or thought doesnt mean that they are at a 3rd grade level either:rolleyes:

Thanks again, TLD
That's what the thanks button is for:rolleyes:

Guess I should dumb down speech and ideas for them to that for which they are traditionally more accustomed to.

To me you already are there, you just havent realized it yet.:D

DougP
11-24-2007, 05:46 PM
Anothing thing to consider is that I am not fully trying to turn this into a simulation of a real-world economy. This isn't a social experiment. The credits, the arcade, and the casino are all there just for fun. No hidden agendas. I think the economic stats would be cool just to have something to analyze and play with, but it's not something I take all that seriously. When the "just for fun" factor starts to vanish, the purpose is defeated.

Throw in some digital hookers and I might start spending some credits:D J/K I'm not much of a gambler but I do like watching my credits increase:first:

socalheart
11-24-2007, 06:02 PM
Re: Lottery

It's currently an all or nothing lottery. Is there a way to make it pay out something for getting three or four of the numbers? That system is similar to the CA lotto: for example, three numbers matched gets you $5, four numbers matched gets you $100.

P_chan
11-24-2007, 06:12 PM
Thanks, TLD.

As you may notice, though, those who have the level of 3rd grade discourse who are piqued by something "out of the box" come in, as if on cue, to just declare things "stupid" or "dumb." Guess I should dumb down speech and ideas for them to that for which they are traditionally more accustomed to.

Thanks again, TLD.

You really should stop being so condescending towards other users. Treating people like their dumb or stupid (which is quite evident in the post I've quoted), is far worse then just coming out and calling them stupid IMO. I know you have something against the whole "thanks" feature and I can see your trying to curb it's use, "Aku Soku Zan". I don't know what gets your feathers ruffled about it, it boggles the mind.

Oh and for the record, even if muku (our ringleader and my butt buddy in your eyes) came in here and said the thanks button should be taxed, I would be against it. Hell, I'd be against it even if DK was for it, because it's just a stupid thing to do. It would be like charging someone to just log on to the forum. We might as well charge users for posts that are too short, or posting a wall of text.

Oh and just because I use words like "dumb" and "stupid" doesn't give me a 3rd grade intelligence level. I know that is what your hinting at, but not actually saying it, like you always do. So remind me, who's the 3rd grader?

I am a feared. :eek: heh.Naw I think i could probably take some really nice pictures if I actually went out and tried. You should be scared of the graphic contest, you might get another credit cat:thumbup:


PS: I gave dk a thanks for that AFN comment because it made me laugh. Guess I better give him 10 credits now too.

But I do agree with DougP!

VOTE YES FOR DIGITAL HOOKERS!!!

ja_Patriot
11-24-2007, 10:07 PM
Thanks, TLD.

As you may notice, though, those who have the level of 3rd grade discourse who are piqued by something "out of the box" come in, as if on cue, to just declare things "stupid" or "dumb." Guess I should dumb down speech and ideas for them to that for which they are traditionally more accustomed to.

Thanks again, TLD.


Wow. Did you ever learn? "Never put both feet in your mouth at the same time, because then you won't have a leg to stand on."

You've just insulted a lot of people; people who are needed to participate in this forum in order to make it as successful as it can be. Being designated as a moderator, you should really know better.

And you just lowered the standard of decorum by several notches. The problem with hyperboles, as amusing as they may seem, is that they can easily be misinterpreted.

In the end, nothing can be taken too seriously, including subjective "warnings" from your end henceforth, barring blatant instances of vulgarity or obscenity.

dk
11-24-2007, 10:10 PM
Here's a tip for all people.

Rather than saying, "That's a stupid idea", try, "I'm really don't care for that idea". Rather than saying, "That's a dumb idea", try, "I don't think that's a good decision". It's really easy once you get the hang of it. I'm not attacking you p_chan, or anyone really. I just personally see it as pretty easy to be polite. It just takes some restraint and some habit building.

Saying, "That's not a good idea" is every bit as blunt as saying, "That's stupid". It's just, less feelings get involved.

Just a pro-tip from the almightyforumgo.

dk
11-24-2007, 10:14 PM
I do suggest researching the vBulletin web site before recommending new things to add.
Some of the best advice I've ever seen posted on this forum. If you ever get the urge to break out into arguement on the forums, try this on for size! Find me something new for the forums that you think would benefit our community! :D

VBulletin Add-ons: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=194
VBulletin Template Mods: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=192

The template mods are usually harder to integrate, and some of them are downright impossible with the two skins I've chosen to use (ogenzen and hexcell), but there's a lot of good material in there. I especially recommend the Mod of the Month topic. Which you can find here: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=203

P_chan
11-24-2007, 10:25 PM
I understand the whole being polite thing. But I had to call it how it is in this instance, and it was a "stupid" and "dumb" idea. Sometimes, it has to be sad IMHO.

dk
11-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Roulette is ******* rigged... there go all my credits...

I don't know. I've done fine by not shooting ideas down as stupid or dumb. It's honestly never necessary. I'm not saying to be a carebear. If I'm joking around with Mad Hatter or one of my close friends, I'll tell him his idea is downright retarded, but on a forum, arguements break out for less. Which is fine, I guess. I personally have a knack for avoiding flamable words. Most days.

I AM NOW ACCEPTING DONATIONS!

*Breaks out his guitar and leaves the case open*

ja_Patriot
11-24-2007, 10:42 PM
Some of the best advice I've ever seen posted on this forum. If you ever get the urge to break out into arguement on the forums, try this on for size! Find me something new for the forums that you think would benefit our community! :D

VBulletin Add-ons: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=194
VBulletin Template Mods: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=192

The template mods are usually harder to integrate, and some of them are downright impossible with the two skins I've chosen to use (ogenzen and hexcell), but there's a lot of good material in there. I especially recommend the Mod of the Month topic. Which you can find here: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=203


Man, the stuff that you have to deal with.

I tell you guys, we take a lot of things for granted, but you gotta appreciate the effort behind it, mostly dk's.

And for all the criticism I fling out on views however justified, TP & DocP are doing a great job as mods. I don't know how much spam or improper or obscene and vulgar posts they have deleted, but the JU forums are essentially as clean as a forum can be.

ja_Patriot
11-24-2007, 10:44 PM
I gotta pay you back about 4,000 but as it stands, I'm forumly insolvent.

P_chan
11-24-2007, 10:50 PM
Roulette is ******* rigged... there go all my credits...

I don't know. I've done fine by not shooting ideas down as stupid or dumb. It's honestly never necessary. I'm not saying to be a carebear. If I'm joking around with Mad Hatter or one of my close friends, I'll tell him his idea is downright retarded, but on a forum, arguements break out for less. Which is fine, I guess. I personally have a knack for avoiding flamable words. Most days.

I AM NOW ACCEPTING DONATIONS!

*Breaks out his guitar and leaves the case open*

You can has credits!

Only if you play something good:D

dk
11-24-2007, 10:56 PM
Man, the stuff that you have to deal with.

I tell you guys, we take a lot of things for granted, but you gotta appreciate the effort behind it, mostly dk's.

And for all the criticism I fling out on views however justified, TP & DocP are doing a great job as mods. I don't know how much spam or improper or obscene and vulgar posts they have deleted, but the JU forums are essentially as clean as a forum can be.
Thanks man. We try. :D

This forum does a pretty good job of taking care of itself as far as spam bots are concerned, and once a bot surfaces, it's very easy to ban him and remove all of its posts. Most of our members have done a really good job of moderating themself as well, so it's really been my pleasure helping out with the moderation duties.

The admin stuff is more fun than anything. I just hit that site a few times a week to see if anything new has been released and has started making waves. I've pretty much installed most of the plugins I need from that site, so now I'm mainly just waiting for a few plugins to release more stable versions and a few other plugins to release products I'm anxiously awaiting (vbcommerce, and a bunch of their other stuff).

dk
11-24-2007, 10:57 PM
You can has credits!

Only if you play something good:D
I'm gonna make all my money back on roulette. Thanks for the credits. I'll pay you back ASAP. :D

Edit: LOL you cheapskate! I was expecting more than 1000!

P_chan
11-24-2007, 11:30 PM
I'm gonna make all my money back on roulette. Thanks for the credits. I'll pay you back ASAP. :D

Edit: LOL you cheapskate! I was expecting more than 1000!

You can always give them back:D

dk
11-24-2007, 11:36 PM
I'm working on it. I've won back 700 or so credits so far lol. I'll pay you back as soon as I have a comfortable little chunk of betting change.

socalheart
11-25-2007, 12:33 AM
I'm not going to go to all those links about v-whatever, because i don't understand any of it. I'm just going to throw ideas out there, like the lotto idea I had - post #83, and let you tell me if it's doable. :) Thanks!

dk
11-25-2007, 12:41 AM
I'm not going to go to all those links about v-whatever, because i don't understand any of it. I'm just going to throw ideas out there, like the lotto idea I had - post #83, and let you tell me if it's doable. :) Thanks!
Lazy!!! :thumbdown: Hehe, just kidding. Some people just can't hang with the technical mumbo jumbo. :p

DoctorP
11-26-2007, 01:04 AM
I like the stock market idea...could be a fun twist.

dk's done a great job so far with the additions he made to the forums. It has already gone beyond my expectations! I knew the vbulletin software would be a big plus, but I didn't expect him to put in the additional add ons.

dk
11-26-2007, 01:11 AM
I knew the vbulletin software would be a big plus, but I didn't expect him to put in the additional add ons.
It'd be boring without em. :)

I'll keep looking into that stock market thing. I think last time I checked I wasn't too convinced that it was a stable edition. I'll check again sometime this week.

The big problem we're facing is that we're running out of space for all of these links... I might need to start considering another forum skin and ditch ogenzen and hexcell eventually... We've just got too much to offer and I don't want everything burried inside the "Quick Menu".