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TheNoNamedOne
11-12-2007, 10:50 PM
In the Christian paradigm, God created everything, and it is only through God's mercy and compassion that man can be saved. But mercy and compassion is not monopolized by God, or a characteristic of Him only. And, man has the ability through judgement and free will to spread that compassion and mercy to other men and creatures as liberally or as miserly as he choses. But, why should man expect and hope for mercy and compassion from the "One" above, when/if he is unwilling to give it to the "ones" below?

Pigs and lambs and cows and chickens are not pieces of machinery, no matter how cost-efficient it may be to treat them as such. Machinery doesn't cry or feel frightened or lonely. And when a man treats them this way, he might as well be a machine himself. Something dies in him, too. Something is lost in a society that rewards and enriches him, driving him on at this pace and in this spirit.

Without animal rights groups, moreover, it would all go almost completely unremarked, except by economists who welcome industrial farming as a stage of progress, stock analysts who recommend it as a smart investment, trade representatives who want to export it, and environmental and consumer groups who worry only about our sulllied waters. Who would be left to speak for the creatures themselves? Feared for the truths they might tell, animal rights champions do not deserve our scorn. They deserve our admiration and our gratitude, here above all. Sometimes the most couragious thing is to state the obvious, and that is what they are doing when they tell us that to treat animals in such a way is cruel, abhorant, and inexcusable. "We do not need a zoological proletariat,"writes one commentator in dismissing the rights of farm animals, to which the obvious reply is that we do not need zoological gulags, either. -- Dominion, pg 288, Matthew Sculley

Do Christians have a moral obligation to show compassion and mercy to God's creatures, whom he also blesses, and to not treat them as machines or production units meant to satisfy the palate for gluttoney? Would Jesus confine one of his creations to a life of tormented misery, or would he reject the supporting of such an atrocious system? Would he reject tortured flesh for the pleasure of His palate?

OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand
11-12-2007, 11:09 PM
Man has proven a poor steward of the Earth, even when his intentions are seemingly good.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/tv/specials/wolf/intro.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_v38/ai_4373958

Isaak Brodsky
11-12-2007, 11:21 PM
... But, why should man expect and hope for mercy and compassion from the "One" above, when/if he is unwilling to give it to the "ones" below? ... Do Christians have a moral obligation to show compassion and mercy to God's creatures, whom he also blesses, and to not treat them as machines or production units meant to satisfy the palate for gluttoney? Would Jesus confine one of his creations to a life of tormented misery, or would he reject the supporting of such an atrocious system? Would he reject tortured flesh for the pleasure of His palate?

What a fantastic quote you'd referenced!!

You ask an excellent question too. Why, indeed, should we expect mercy? I'd say some people reject the offer of mercy as they see nothing in their actions and attitudes that would even warrant the need for mercy. Some folks see themselves as inherently good and, thus, their actions always acceptable, so the need to accept mercy never crosses their minds.

Some of us also neglect to abide by the beatitudes. One in particular relates directly to your point, Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

Of course, Christ (the Lamb of God) having been the substitute sin offering for man because of man's inability to abide by the Laws would condemn the practices of present day corporate farming.

As a Jew, I feel that my culture forces me to observe the sanctity of life, to be exceedingly thoughtful of the life that exists in all God's glorious creation.

Tony Stacks
11-16-2007, 11:08 AM
Well as far as I know the laws that must be followed to make meat Kosher or Hallal are meant to make sure that an animal is killed in the most humane way.

I hate animals abusers and I love animals but we also have the right to eat animals. Lions and tigers eat meat. Humans, Monkeys and other Omnivores eat both. Hebavores are vegetarians.

Now if an animals is treated good and given good food and clean water and is killed in the fastest way possible than I think it is a fair comprimise between Omnivore people and Vegans.