View Full Version : Do you believe that psychics exist?
kombu_kid
10-18-2007, 09:23 AM
I'd just like to know everyone's opinion on if they believe that psychics are real, that they can contact the dead, and if they can help police solve crimes. Personally, I do believe in them much more than I used to, mostly because more and more police agencies use them successfully to help them solve murders etc.
There's getting to be a lot of T.V. shows with real psychics supposedly solving crimes, and contacting the deceased as to where they're buried etc. If someone doesn't believe in an afterlife or that we all have a spirit, I'd like to know their angle on how these psychics can contact people's deceased relatives, obtain minute details of the living family member's life that only the other (deceased) family member would know, and actually tell police a murderer's initials, partial numbers of the murderer's license plate, the color house they live in, address numbers and other relevant information.
htran804
10-18-2007, 10:23 AM
I believe in it...all of stranger things as happened.
I think there's definitely something to it, but I think most self-proclaimed psychics are probably frauds. But I've had dreams months and years ago that still occasionally happen exactly the way I dreamed them up. Not saying I'm psychic at all, but I think there's something to the whole dreams and visions thing. I don't have any evidence for or against people being psychic.
socalheart
10-18-2007, 11:15 AM
I think many self-proclaimed psychics are frauds. I'm more likely to believe someone's psychic ability when the person isn't putting his/herself in the spotlight with it. I especially disbelieve in self-proclaimed psychics that make a point of stating that s/he helped the police solve a murder or find a lost person, for example. :rolleyes:
I do believe there are people who are psychically gifted though. Whether they can see auras, spirits or the past and future, I think it's possible.
P_chan
10-18-2007, 11:46 AM
I think their all full of BS. Love it how psychics can't predict anything until after it happens:thumbdown:
I think their all full of BS. Love it how psychics can't predict anything until after it happens:thumbdown:
I predicted that these forums would be successful. :ohmy:
P_chan
10-18-2007, 12:28 PM
So you must be psychic huh?
Now predict some huge, world changing event that is going to happen in the future. Oh, and no you can't relate it to one of your predictions AFTER the event already happens (like all those nuts who relate all world events to nostradamus' writings:thumbdown:)
Now predict some huge, world changing event that is going to happen in the future. Oh, and no you can't relate it to one of your predictions AFTER the event already happens (like all those nuts who relate all world events to nostradamus' writings:thumbdown:)
I predict Bush will not be re-elected.
I also predict I will be given two raises this year. This may not sound major, but these raises will put me in a position of financial security and savings to where I will eventually be the most powerful businessman on Okinawa. You will all bow to me. Especially you p_chan. You'll bow twice. And make me a sandwich. Every day at noon.
Finally, I predict that those underwater ruins up in Yonaguni will be proven to be not man-made structures, and there will be widespread dissapointment across the lands.
Thus sayith the almightyforumgo.
Fonze
10-18-2007, 12:42 PM
To funny dk. ROFLMAO.
I think psychics are real but rare. I like to believe we are all born with powers and if you don't learn to control it or use it you lose it.
TheNoNamedOne
10-18-2007, 07:19 PM
There's getting to be a lot of T.V. shows with real psychics supposedly solving crimes, and contacting the deceased as to where they're buried etc.
Would you be kind enough to bring forth some real life case studies where psychics have been credited in solving crimes or providing key help to investigators solving crimes.
Would you be kind enough to bring forth some real life case studies where psychics have been credited in solving crimes or providing key help to investigators solving crimes.
Child Search (http://childsearchpsychic.tripod.com/)
My Psychic Autobiography by Robert Lindblad (http://childsearchpsychic.tripod.com/mypsychicautobiographybyrobertlindblad/)
P_chan
10-18-2007, 07:35 PM
I predict Bush will not be re-elected.
I also predict I will be given two raises this year. This may not sound major, but these raises will put me in a position of financial security and savings to where I will eventually be the most powerful businessman on Okinawa. You will all bow to me. Especially you p_chan. You'll bow twice. And make me a sandwich. Every day at noon.
Finally, I predict that those underwater ruins up in Yonaguni will be proven to be not man-made structures, and there will be widespread dissapointment across the lands.
Thus sayith the almightyforumgo.
I will be stick my hand down my butt crack and whipe the butt crack sweat on your sandwich and pee in your coffee too:D
I will be stick my hand down my butt crack and whipe the butt crack sweat on your sandwich and pee in your coffee too:D
Ummm:barf::barf::barf:...a bit too graphic for me right now.
TheNoNamedOne
10-18-2007, 07:52 PM
Child Search (http://childsearchpsychic.tripod.com/)
My Psychic Autobiography by Robert Lindblad (http://childsearchpsychic.tripod.com/mypsychicautobiographybyrobertlindblad/)
ummmm...ok.
To be honest, I read the first page of the first link and a few paras of the second link. A lot of self-professing there.
Muku, do you have something where a verifiable law enforcement agency from somewhere in the U.S. credits a psychic in solving a case, saying that he/she was key to resolving it?
swindland
10-18-2007, 08:42 PM
I believe there are real pyschics out there but there are a lot of F-ing frauds as well. the frauds should rot in hell!!! :cursing: ahahahahahahahaha.....
ummmm...ok.
To be honest, I read the first page of the first link and a few paras of the second link. A lot of self-professing there.
Muku, do you have something where a verifiable law enforcement agency from somewhere in the U.S. credits a psychic in solving a case, saying that he/she was key to resolving it?
Nope sorry I dont, I only know about this guy, and to be honest I have a hard time believing him as well.
I am not one to put my beliefs into psychics, however I will not go so far as to say with 100% surety that they dont exist. I have witnessed too many things that to me defied definition, so I dont know.
Hell we even had a member here that used to post that "claimed" to be psychic. Who knows maybe she saw her fall from grace before it happened as well.
I believe that they believe they are genuine.
TheNoNamedOne
10-18-2007, 08:58 PM
I believe there are real pyschics out there...
Which case studies and/or research that is verifiable leads you to believe that?
ja_Patriot
10-18-2007, 08:59 PM
Good one, almighty forumgo. Ha, ha, ha. Bow your head (twice), P_chan.
And say, peanut butter sandwich, dozo.
dk: A bit on the salty side, eh?
P_chan: Here, have some coffee with it.
(Psychic voice: I see there's some butt juice in the sandwich and pee in the coffee.)
LMAO....Gotta have dinner.
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TheNoNamedOne
10-18-2007, 09:01 PM
Nope sorry I dont, I only know about this guy, and to be honest I have a hard time believing him as well.
Fair enough on that, Muku. Perhaps Kombu Kid can direct us to some case studies and research that is verifiable that support his OP, particularly the part I quoted above that you had responded to.
swindland
10-18-2007, 09:10 PM
Which case studies and/or research that is verifiable leads you to believe that?
i've always believed in the paranormal. :dead: i've never really followed any case studies or research. I just find it very interesting. Now i've seen on tv shows that certain local enforcement use psychics. but then again, i don't know how true it is. so i'm sure it can be real or not.
kombu_kid
10-18-2007, 10:49 PM
Check out this link: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0512/30/ng.01.html
I know it's long, but if you start where Phil Jordan starts to speak, it's not that bad. I know there will always be skeptics, but I think a lot of them come into the argument refusing to believe in any way, shape or form.
Phil Jordan and Noreen Renier, are on the T.V. show "Psychic Detectives", and they work with real detectives to help solve cases. I know it's a T.V. show, but when you've got a number of police agencies around the U.S. saying that the psychics gave a number accurate clues, to me it seems there's something to it.
ja_Patriot
10-19-2007, 12:21 AM
Anything that's commercially produced media needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
But there are studies out there that humans only use a small part of the brain (8 to 20% depending on which report) to functional normally.
So, psychic powers in some or psycho-kinetic powers in others or a host of other still unknown human abilities may well be proven, and their existence should not be regarded as beyond reasonable expectations.
In short, yes I think psychics exist.
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themadscientist
10-21-2007, 08:09 AM
haha, I read the title too quick. I thought it said "do you believe that physics exsist?" I was pretty shocked.
Bones
10-21-2007, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by The Prosecutor:
Would you be kind enough to bring forth some real life case studies where psychics have been credited in solving crimes or providing key help to investigators solving crimes.
http://www.stephanyhurkos.com/peter_biography.htm
That should do for a start TP.:rolleyes:
First time I've actually tried applying a link to one of my messages. If it doesn't work, just copy and paste the link into your browsers address bar.
Getting back to the issue, I think that most "Psychics" are frauds. Especially the store-front type of people. You walk into their office, they ask you a bunch of questions, then they'll set you up for an appointment for your reading.
But if you do a Google search on "Psychics", you'll run across Peter Hurkos. When I first read your challenge, the first thing that popped into my mind was "The Boston Strangler" case, and if the above posted link works, you'll be able to read about some of his other achievements.
As for myself, there have been times within our personal lives where the wife and I, have surprised ourselves. We do things for each other, and usually we end up saying: "This is just what I was thinking about doing, yesterday."
We don't claim to be "Psychics". It's just that we've lived with each other for so long, that a predictable pattern has emerged, as to what we think the other person would want to do.
As for the link, if it doesn't work, tell me what I've done wrong.
NBTP
First guess:
My html, sucks.
This forum is psychic...
I clicked edit to fix your link and it fixed itself. I seriously didn't do anything. Then I hit the edit button and the following message is appended to your post:
Last edited by dk : Today at 07:16 PM. Reason: Fixed link
Freaky...
TheNoNamedOne
10-21-2007, 07:21 PM
Your link wasn't working, NBTP.
Two things:
1. You left a "g" out of the word "biography" in your URL link.
2. You used the html tags , when instead of that you should use the link button from the formatting commands. That is the one with the globe and what looks like a paper clip slightly at its bottom. See it?
To use that just click on that and then a window will pop up. Past your URL link in that window and press "enter." That will create the link. When that link first appears it may be highlighted. YOu should be able to title it with whatever word you like. Like this: This site (http://www.wikipedia.org/) really helps you find out about things. See? I didn't title it Wikipedia. I titled it "This site."
Hope that helps for your future posts. If you still have problems let me know.
TheNoNamedOne
10-21-2007, 07:22 PM
This forum is psychic...
I clicked edit to fix your link and it fixed itself. I seriously didn't do anything. Then I hit the edit button and the following message is appended to your post:
Freaky...
Nothing freaky. I just beat you to it. lol.
Ah, I see. And then it appended my name to your comment... huh... Still kinda stunned me for a minute lmao.
Bones
10-21-2007, 08:13 PM
Either way, thanks for your help guys.:D
What are the two of you doing right now?
Bored out of my mind, the wife is out shopping again.
Keep in mind, this is the person who told me that we couldn't spend money like we used to, since the last time we were here. The same person who had insisted, we can absolutely not have the family over every weekend for a get-together. And countless other things. :(
To be expected I guess. But at one point, I'm going to have to put things into perspective for her. May need a place to stay after that, but I'm almost cetain that things will work out in the end.:rolleyes:
NBTP
DougP
10-21-2007, 08:24 PM
I predicted this thread would be made :D
I predicted this thread would be made :D
That's only because I told you so:old: :D
What are the two of you doing right now?
Bored out of my mind, the wife is out shopping again.
I'm actually pretty bored. I finished all of my course work until Tuesday evening and this is the first time in about three weeks where I haven't had to crack down and do anything. There's JU stuff to do, but I'd rather just enjoy this tiny bit of peace and quiet I've somehow stumbled upon.
It'd be nice to have someone to go out and grab a beer with. Unfortunately, I doubt I have Y500 in my wallet, and I doubt my wife has much more than that as well. She's a stickler for saving money. :p
N3philum
10-23-2007, 01:22 PM
I predicted you would post that.
ryukyuboi
10-23-2007, 05:58 PM
Yes, I believe in paranormal phenonema.
Fonze
10-23-2007, 08:00 PM
I just saw the movie Next with Nicholas Cage and Jessica Beal. Has anyone seen this? It has to do with predicting future events but only a couple mins ahead. I give it a 8.
themadscientist
10-23-2007, 08:14 PM
I am psychic. When I saw the preview teasers for American Idol I said "that is going to suck hard". I was right.
Bones
10-23-2007, 08:48 PM
Orinally posted by Dk:
It'd be nice to have someone to go out and grab a beer with. Unfortunately, I doubt I have Y500 in my wallet, and I doubt my wife has much more than that as well. She's a stickler for saving money.
Normally, I would be right over. But we seem to be able to "NOT, get settled in yet.
While we were back in the States, my wife made all kinds of calls over here stressing that;
...we can't have the kinds of parties that we used to, before my husband finds a job.
We've had 7 housewarming/steak parties, the recliner that she had insisted on buying, wasn't comfortable enough (compared to the one she found last week), two brunches at Camp Foster, three brunches at Kadena O.C., 4 Yakiniku parties just up the street.......
For myself, I bought a new printer (why do you need that, honey?), and a new digital camera for my birthday (you're spending too much money on things that we don't need)......
I am so looking fwd to the 17th, but I'm pretty sure at this point, that something will pop up that would prevent me from attending.
Or maybe I'll just show up anyway, get totally wasted, and not worry about the money that we are supposed to be saving by not being there. It's just going to be spent on the rest of the family anyway.:cursing:
Maybe this should have been posted under the "Rant" thread, dk. I'm sure that once the excitement dies down, things will return to normal.
NBTP
I just saw the movie Next with Nicholas Cage and Jessica Beal. Has anyone seen this? It has to do with predicting future events but only a couple mins ahead. I give it a 8.
I give it a 6... I'm not much of a Nicholas Cage fan. Semi-interesting story, but the fact that he could see the future just made the ending boring as hell for me. There were no hidden surprises. "The sniper is over there". :thumbdown:
Or maybe I'll just show up anyway, get totally wasted, and not worry about the money that we are supposed to be saving by not being there. It's just going to be spent on the rest of the family anyway.:cursing:
Poor guy. Do whatever you feel you need to do! It's your life too! :thumbup:
kombu_kid
10-23-2007, 10:33 PM
Or maybe I'll just show up anyway, get totally wasted, and not worry about the money that we are supposed to be saving by not being there. It's just going to be spent on the rest of the family anyway.
Now, that's the smart move. Think of it as cheap therapy. We won't be on this earth forever.
BTW, I'm no fan of Nicholas Cage either. Ever since "Gone in 60 Seconds". Pushing the envelope of Cornball.
TheNoNamedOne
10-24-2007, 07:38 PM
Answering the OP title question again:
No.
For years the Amazing Randi has offered a one million dollar prize for anybody who can perform a paranormal/pshychic feat under certain conditions spelled out in the challenge. Many have tried and to this date, Mr. Randi has not become a million dollars poorer.
Nothing like a little skeptical observation in an environment not set up for some fraud to keep fraud from happening.
Who ya gonna call? .... Fraud Busters!
iAmtheMovie
10-24-2007, 08:40 PM
Bollocks, I say.
Not that I don't believe in the whole "This has happened before," or "I have a strange feeling about this," but... there is always a line.
John Edward really moved the field forward. Authentic paranormal experiences on his show all the time.
I will honestly say first that I dont know what to believe, do they exist or not?
How can people explain away instances where doctors have given up patients for being dead, and the power of prayer that brought them back to life.
How can people explain people like the guy I linked in a previous post here, finding lost children.
So these people dont perform like circus animals, does that make what "power" they may or may have not less believeable?
So what if they dont participate in any contest to make money.
I think that there are many unexplainable things that happen in our daily lives that people need or want some kind of scientific evidence to rely on before they can believe something unexplainable happened.
It's the same as people that believe they have seen ghosts. I dont doubt that they have, no matter how much I want to "think" otherwise. Just because I dont put any "faith" or "belief" that it is impossible, I have no right to tell someone else that what they have seen or done is not possible.
Some things that have happened in my life have made me rethink what I thought was true about this subject........more in part two!:D
Part Two.......
My first child was born in North Carolina, my two sons were born here in Okinawa. Ok......My wifes best friend married a guy from the US and they moved back to the states before my sons were born. We were out of contact with each other for a number of years as we both were going our own ways. Here is the "strange" part....
My wife went into the hospital to deliver our first son, he was born without complications and after the birth I came home to take care of my daughter. Out of the clear blue I get a long distance telephone call from my wifes best friend. She was calling to ask how the birth went, I was like, huh? No one tolf her that my wife had just given birth to our son, let alone the fact that she had been pregnant. She told me that she had "seen" us in a dream, and not only that she knew the name that we had given our son. She was right on.
Ok by this time my legs were shaking and I was asking her all sorts of questions, your Mom told you, someone told you. Nope she just "saw" it and called to ask how her friend, my wife was doing. I was thinking at that time.....time to play the theme song from the "Twilight Zone", wtf. Serious shock.
Fast forward almost 6 years, same time, same channel, she did the same thing with our second son as well, including his first name, and her explaination was the same, "I saw it in my dream". It was seriously freaky. And to this day I can not, nor can my wife either, explain how she knew. She lives in Alabama, we in Okinawa, we have almost no contact .
To this day I can not explain or understand how she knew.
socalheart
10-24-2007, 10:05 PM
I believe that people can dream about what is happening to those dear to them. I've had personal experience in this. It doesn't mean they're necessarily psychic, but more along the lines of "force sensitive" to borrow a phrase. :50:
I believe that people can dream about what is happening to those dear to them. I've had personal experience in this. It doesn't mean they're necessarily psychic, but more along the lines of "force sensitive" to borrow a phrase. :50:
Im sorry I have no idea what the heck "force sensitive" means.
Either way it was to me at least a psychic experience for her and me as well.
To be quite honest it was wierd to say the least.....no explaination possible.
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