Is Sunday night religion night? [Archive]

DocTurtle

10-17-2007, 11:22 AM

You two are so cute.
The regular program isn't that bad...only with certain dj's (and I'm not refering to you Samy).
AFN is just trying to accomidate everyone and it's not easy. There is always going to be at least one, If you can't be diverse in your taste then you are just going to have to be unhappy. Just turn it off or listen to another station. Even put in a CD or tape of your own. Turn on your ipod. There are plenty of other options :)

Writer Sterling

10-17-2007, 01:31 PM

Like I've said in other threads: If you're going to listen to the radio, you have to be open to some of the music that will be played on it. The Doc makes a good point--Think of how diverse the military is. There may not be a more diverse group of people in the entire world. Then think of Okinawa, the military's largest overseas audience. You have to cater to certain groups of people, whether it be the religious types, the ones who love hard rock, hip hop, R&B, Country, Etc..... If you know what you're in for, why do you listen? If you like sporadicality (don't really know if that's a word), If you like not knowing what's coming next, then just keep listening. It can be really fun to listen to, although, I realize it can be frustrating as well. If you could see what we have to work with, and saw a playlist, you may be more inclined to understand why we play what we play.

Samy

Medama_Oyaji

10-17-2007, 01:49 PM

...so making comments about my show and trying to bring me down that way is pointless...

this is not about your show.

DocTurtle

10-17-2007, 01:49 PM

Thanks. From what I understand, you guys are pretty limited in what you can play. You get a decent number of artists and whatnot, but you can play the same artist in the same hour, sometimes same song in a day, and you often don't have the royalties to play all of the songs by the artists. Plus I would imagine that you have to play a certain amount of each genre and probably a certain amount of top 100 or 20 hits within a certain time frame as well. You guys do well with what you got I would say. I can't remember if it was you or another DJ that played "Hey BaBy" and actually turned it off after the first min of them saying nothing but "Hey Baby". I had to applaud you guys on that one. The wife and I claim it's our fav song when we tease each other about what's on the radio.
Oh, and Medama_Oyaji...you already started this post...we don't need duplicates.

Writer Sterling

10-17-2007, 02:11 PM

this is not about your show.

Well, what exactly is your beef? You try to make yourself seem like you're so much cooler than the other side of the pillow, you and you're lame one liners. So, what is your beef, old man? Why do you have to have so much hate?

Samy

DougP

10-17-2007, 03:40 PM

:Dback to the topic. Why do they play religious shows on a government run station?

Medama_Oyaji

10-17-2007, 04:30 PM

:Dback to the topic. Why do they play religious shows on a government run station?

i was wondering when someone would pose that question....

Medama_Oyaji

10-17-2007, 04:31 PM

Well, what exactly is your beef? You try to make yourself seem like you're so much cooler than the other side of the pillow, you and you're lame one liners. So, what is your beef, old man? Why do you have to have so much hate?

Samy

my beef is that afn sucks.

10-17-2007, 04:48 PM

DougP

10-17-2007, 06:17 PM

Would you rather listen to J-Pop or Okinawan Indies?

Oh hell no.

I would like to listen to quality music though. I get tired of pop quick. I haven't even turned on my radio in probably a month. Songs become overplayed in a matter of days.

Sounds like lsitening to J-radio and AFN aren't very different at all. From what I remember there's just as much yapping and the same songs get played over and over. Plus J-radio still plays the American Top-40 as well so I get to hear Ryan-I -got-no-real-thoughts-Seacrest. yay. :rolleyes:

But seriously why does a government run station play religious shows? Aren't there enough gospel CDs and religious tapes, books, churches, temples out there already? Is there a need for it on a government run/ funded network?

10-17-2007, 10:10 PM

But seriously why does a government run station play religious shows? Aren't there enough gospel CDs and religious tapes, books, churches, temples out there already? Is there a need for it on a government run/ funded network?
It's a very good question. Why would government run bases have chapels? I think it all boils down to support, indirectly. That, and morale.

Muku

10-17-2007, 10:22 PM

But seriously why does a government run station play religious shows? Aren't there enough gospel CDs and religious tapes, books, churches, temples out there already? Is there a need for it on a government run/ funded network?

I can tell you that there are plenty of Christians in the military that think that there isnt enough "religion" on the radio or on TV.

For arguments sake here I would add.....and not directed towards any poster in particular here.

Ok then why does a government run station play Rush Limbaugh and what's his name Ed Shultz, or why play American Top 40, or Country, R and B, Jazz or anything else for that matter?

How about just have AFN do public service announcements 24/7, you know the ones, designated drivers, USO, higher education, financial management, stuff like that.....then no one should have a "right" to complain.

I understand where you are coming from though, separation of church and state right? But why then aren't there any programs from the all over the religious/political spectrum including the communist party of the US, or Libertarians, the Wickans, etc etc etc.

I've said this before, and I may be in a minority here but I think that AFN does a damn good job considering the audience and restrictions that they have on them regarding programming, and I would love to challenge people like The Mad Hatter to do better.

DoctorP

10-17-2007, 10:43 PM

Samy...no one pulled your chain in this thread. He posed a question about religious music on Sunday. If you have an answer, post it, keep the personal attacks out of it.

DougP

10-17-2007, 10:50 PM

It's a very good question. Why would government run bases have chapels? I think it all boils down to support, indirectly. That, and morale.

For that I can simply say that offering a place of worship for those of a religious following is one thing. It goes along with giving everyone a chance to practice their beliefs. But broadcasting it on government airwaves for all to listen to whether they want to or not is a different story.

DougP

10-17-2007, 10:55 PM

I can tell you that there are plenty of Christians in the military that think that there isnt enough "religion" on the radio or on TV.

For arguments sake here I would add.....and not directed towards any poster in particular here.

Ok then why does a government run station play Rush Limbaugh and what's his name Ed Shultz, or why play American Top 40, or Country, R and B, Jazz or anything else for that matter?

How about just have AFN do public service announcements 24/7, you know the ones, designated drivers, USO, higher education, financial management, stuff like that.....then no one should have a "right" to complain.

I understand where you are coming from though, separation of church and state right? But why then aren't there any programs from the all over the religious/political spectrum including the communist party of the US, or Libertarians, the Wickans, etc etc etc.

I've said this before, and I may be in a minority here but I think that AFN does a damn good job considering the audience and restrictions that they have on them regarding programming, and I would love to challenge people like The Mad Hatter to do better.

I agree with you here completely. I'm not bashing AFN at all on this one. What they play as far as music goes is one thing. I'll chalk that up to personal differences. Yes, they do try to reach everyone and they have a very broad listening group to attend to. The separation of church and state is what I was referring to. However, if they are doing this to reach out to all of their listeners then they should at least include the rest of the religions, even the non religious like agnostics and atheists. If you can't provide for all of them you might as well leave the religious banter off the airwaves.

Muku

10-17-2007, 11:02 PM

if they are doing this to reach out to all of their listeners then they should at least include the rest of the religions, even the non religious like agnostics and atheists. If you can't provide for all of them you might as well leave the religious banter off the airwaves.

That is a fact.:thumbup1:

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 08:50 AM

i understand the need for "filler" time so the AFN guys can get some time off but make it somewhat pleasant for everyone.

Muku

10-18-2007, 08:54 AM

i understand the need for "filler" time so the AFN guys can get some time off but make it somewhat pleasant for everyone.

Medama that's the point, it will never be pleasant for everyone.:D

P_chan

10-18-2007, 09:06 AM

i understand the need for "filler" time so the AFN guys can get some time off but make it somewhat pleasant for everyone.

just because it's not pleasent for you doesn't mean it's not pleasent for someone else. Why should they cater to you and what you like?

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 09:22 AM

just because it's not pleasent for you doesn't mean it's not pleasent for someone else. Why should they cater to you and what you like?

i didn't ask to be catered to personally. but i am pretty sure not everyone wants to turn on the radio and hear religious programming for 1-2 hrs....

P_chan

10-18-2007, 09:29 AM

Your pretty much asking them to with all your whining and bitching. Sure not everyone wants to hear religious radio. But I'm sure there are people who want to hear it.

How about just turning the radio off and using an MP3 player or play a CD? Then, hopefully, you'll stop bitching and moaning in here.

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 09:35 AM

that's what the forum's for...posting opinions.

Muku

10-18-2007, 09:57 AM

that's what the forum's for...posting opinions.

True but you seem to be beating a dead horse here, and just continually posting the same opinions isn't going to change anything either now is it?

Doesnt there come a time to learn to turn the dial and change the station or are you going to continue to bitch and moan and beat that dead horse?:eek:

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 10:02 AM

...are you going to continue to bitch and moan and beat that dead horse?:eek:

yes .

Muku

10-18-2007, 10:05 AM

yes .
FYI I asked a mod or the admin here to merge these two threads.

Muku

10-18-2007, 10:07 AM

yes .

Oh now you are going to have AR and PETA after you because you openly admitted that you are going to continue "beating a dead horse", that's probably a felony somewhere in the world.:rolleyes:

Edited to add:
Now that this has gone sufficiently off topic here I would think that the better thing to do would be lock this thread and let the other one stay in place.

Fonze

10-18-2007, 10:21 AM

Medama_Oyaji exactly what do you want to hear on AFN?

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 10:48 AM

Medama_Oyaji exactly what do you want to hear on AFN?

to be honest, i don't know...i listen to a lot of different kinds of music but afn just kills me with the same shit over and over. but i guess that's everyone's bitch about them. it actually used to be better 20 years ago and that wasn't exactly stellar either.

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 12:01 PM

to be honest, i don't know...i listen to a lot of different kinds of music but afn just kills me with the same shit over and over. but i guess that's everyone's bitch about them. it actually used to be better 20 years ago and that wasn't exactly stellar either.

MO, listen to the radio, and tell me how many times you hear a song in one week on our LIVE shows. We have no control over what is played on the satellite. You may hear it once in the morning and once in the afternoon, but people like you who bitch, adn whine and complain, dude, suck it up. You're on a military island, and the people here shouldn't complain as much as you do. Okay, that's your crux, and you love whining, but dude, it's getting old. You're stupid one line comments will never serve any purpose other than making you look like a whiny bitch. And to top it all off with hot chocolatey syrup, you have no idea what you would rather hear on the radio. Dude, GET A LIFE!!! Get a point and stick with it. I can see your point, hell, even I turn that shit off, but I do have my MP3 player handy during that time. Someone loves to listen to it. Matter of fact, you would be suprised how many people ask me when there is Gospel or Christian music on the radio, or if there ever is at all. So, come out of your shelter, look around, and see that this island is as diverse as anywhere else on Earth, and some people have musical interests other than yours. Be happy we can provide them that. It's a freedom you probably wouldn't want to lose. No one's putting a machine gun to your head and saying, "Listen to it! Listen!" So if you don't like it, turn it off. Then people wouldn't be wasting their whole day telling you what an utter and total lame-ass you are. Note that.

Samy

Fonze

10-18-2007, 12:21 PM

Hey Samy why was AM taking so long to come back on the radio?

10-18-2007, 12:24 PM

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 12:26 PM

Hey Samy why was AM taking so long to come back on the radio?

We can't really talk about that one. It's a real touchy subject. Just look for it in the coming months,

Samy

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 12:27 PM

Holy crap. Was this your longest post ever? :ohmy:

I think it was DK, I think it was. He's actually typing more than 20 letters a post now. I think I just shed a tear, and threw up in my mouth a little bit at the same time. Quite a feeling,

Samy

socalheart

10-18-2007, 12:28 PM

Months?! yeesh. bummer. okay kids, time to break out the wire hangers and duct tape! ;)

Fonze

10-18-2007, 12:28 PM

We can't really talk about that one. It's a real touchy subject. Just look for it in the coming months,

Samy

Is it political?:rolleyes: That cool.

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 12:30 PM

Months?! yeesh. bummer. okay kids, time to break out the wire hangers and duct tape! ;)

Socal, I always look forward to your posts, they are funny.

You can catch the AM radio on TV. Believe me, I miss it too. I want my Sports Overnight America and NPR back.

Samy

Fonze

10-18-2007, 12:31 PM

I miss sports overnight too.

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 12:32 PM

Is it political?:rolleyes: That cool.

All I can tell you is that there is a lot that goes into it, and can't really expound much more than that. It's a subject we aren't really allowed to say much about,

Samy

Asshat

10-18-2007, 12:36 PM

I never, ever listen to AFN. Why would I want to? There is an entire hour devoted to the music like which happens while I am asleep. I neither need nor want any of it. Shut it down. Fine with me. That's what CD players are for.

lol...can anyone tell that today is my first day of not smoking?

P_chan

10-18-2007, 12:42 PM

that's what the forum's for...posting opinions.

Of course that's what it's for. But you've gone far beyond your opinion. We already know that you don't like AFN or sammy. Now, your just acting like a whiny little bitch.

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 12:52 PM

Now, your just acting like a whiny little bitch.

A whiny bitch who sounds like one of those recording that keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and over. Get over it already and have a good time here. This is actually a really fun island.

Samy

10-18-2007, 01:10 PM

It's a subject we aren't really allowed to say much about
Gays in the military?

socalheart

10-18-2007, 01:18 PM

NOW you've gone and done it. You asked! Now he has to tell! ;)

P_chan

10-18-2007, 01:20 PM

Gays in the military?

LOL good one dk:thumbup:

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 01:23 PM

...You asked! Now he has to tell! ;)

or get out....

Fonze

10-18-2007, 01:26 PM

lol...can anyone tell that today is my first day of not smoking?

I'd hate to see you without alcohol.:)

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 01:27 PM

or get out....

I'm getting out in a few months anyway, but, a very big no.

Actually, my wife and I found out a few weeks ago that she is pregnant. So if that doesn't do it for you, I don't know what would. I love women, especially my wife, Not that there's anything wrong with that though (Seinfeld reference).....

Samy

P_chan

10-18-2007, 01:28 PM

Congrats on the baby samy!

10-18-2007, 01:29 PM

Yeah dude. Congrats. Get ready to give up any free time you currently have left. :p

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 01:30 PM

...This is actually a really fun island.

Samy

thanks for the insight...

Fonze

10-18-2007, 01:34 PM

Yeah dude. Congrats. Get ready to give up any free time you currently have left. :p

NO JOKE. Enjoy it while it last. Get ready to start rubbin some back to the sounds of :barf::barf::barf::barf::barf:.

CONGRATS SAMY:thumbup: You scored a touchdown:thumbup1:

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 02:19 PM

thanks for the insight...

Flash to a scene of a really cheesy gameshow, with really cheesy voices as well,

"And congratulations, look at that, another one liner, this time with sarcasm,

Take him backstage and give MO all the prizes he has won, Johnny."

"Alright, Bob, looks like MO has won a copy of How To Talk In Successive Words and Sentences, a book written for chimpanzees by Jane Goodall. Another book by Ms. Goodall, this one is called, Who Stole My Adjectives? a cute little book on how to spice things up on notebook paper, or even web forums!! Finally he also won a special edition pacifier from the great guys at The Pacifier Baby Company, just for that time when saying something doesn't really matter. Look at that, his initials are even imprinted on the side."

Congratulations dude,

Samy

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 02:25 PM

NO JOKE. Enjoy it while it last. Get ready to start rubbin some back to the sounds of :barf::barf::barf::barf::barf:.

CONGRATS SAMY:thumbup: You scored a touchdown:thumbup1:

Thanks to all for your support and congratulations. I just hope I can do half as good a job as my father,

Samy

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 02:31 PM

...Congratulations dude,

Samy

thanks, dude. you are top notch.

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 02:33 PM

thanks, dude. you are top notch.

That's what they say, but really, you're the greatest. How can I be more like you? Please, share your secrets, I beg of you,

Samy

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 02:36 PM

That's what they say, but really, you're the greatest. How can I be more like you? Please, share your secrets, I beg of you,

Samy

i guess the "shit doesn't slide off your knife" (as you put it) as easy as you say....

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 02:47 PM

i guess the "shit doesn't slide off your knife" (as you put it) as easy as you say....

Actually, it's "rolls off my knife", and, seriously, MO, I could care less about what you think. It really does roll off my knife. I don't care what some anonymous jackass in an internet forum thinks about me. Now if you were my father or my uncle, or even my boss, maybe a different story. However, you keep dishing on back, so why not jibber jabber a little? I really have shit else to do right now. You're the one who can't defend himself. Who knows, you actually may be a herself. No one will ever know. Look, if you want to call it quits, I understand. I'll leave you alone, seems like you're getting kinda hostile over there. You need a tranquilizer?

Samy

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 02:57 PM

do i need to defend myself?

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 03:56 PM

do i need to defend myself?

Hey, look dude, you attacked me first. If you're cool with not defending yourself, yeah, then I guess you would have no need to. The thing is, you're as anonymous as can be, and threw it out there first. I was defending myself. Hey dude, I'll call it dead, but don't break out your bullshit again,

Samy

Medama_Oyaji

10-18-2007, 04:25 PM

Hey, look dude, you attacked me first. If you're cool with not defending yourself, yeah, then I guess you would have no need to. The thing is, you're as anonymous as can be, and threw it out there first. I was defending myself. Hey dude, I'll call it dead, but don't break out your bullshit again,

Samy

or what? you'll E-slap me?

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 04:34 PM

or what? you'll E-slap me?

Yeah, I'll E-Slap you, what a threat. No, but I will put in motion everything I have to have you removed from this site.

Dude, let's just leave each other alone. I don't want to actually do that. C'mon, we're both grown adults here,

Samy

DougP

10-18-2007, 04:37 PM

So not like I really want to keep reading back through all this E-banter but did anyone answer the question?

Muku

10-18-2007, 05:00 PM

C'mon, we're both grown adults here,

Uhmm....are you sure?:rolleyes: :D

To me anyway just because a person reaches a certain age may make them "legally" an adult but are actually still children you know.

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 10:05 PM

Uhmm....are you sure?:rolleyes: :D

To me anyway just because a person reaches a certain age may make them "legally" an adult but are actually still children you know.

Muku, what are you implying? :ohmy::D

I have to agree with you, like some of these kids that come in at 18 and think they are the absolute shit. We have a kid like that where I work: He's been everywhere, done everything, met like every celebrity there is, and still can't back the shoit up. Pictures, pictures, something. Too young.

Samy

Muku

10-18-2007, 10:11 PM

Muku, what are you implying? :ohmy::D

I have to agree with you, like some of these kids that come in at 18 and think they are the absolute shit. We have a kid like that where I work: He's been everywhere, done everything, met like every celebrity there is, and still can't back the shoit up. Pictures, pictures, something. Too young.

Samy

I hope you know what I meant......don't go and disapoint me now.:D

I am pretty sure that when "we" were 18 our crap didnt stink either:eek:

Samy if you have the time I hope you will stop in for the JU meet on the 17th of November. I would enjoy sharing a beer with you too!

P_chan

10-18-2007, 10:22 PM

that's what the forum's for...posting opinions.

Oh and one more thing I forgot to add. IMO you seem just like another lame forum troll with nothing to do but try and start drama.:thumbdown:

10-18-2007, 10:44 PM

My advice to Samy. Put MO on ignore. Problem solved.

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 10:45 PM

Oh and one more thing I forgot to add. IMO you seem just like another lame forum troll with nothing to do but try and start drama.:thumbdown:

Yeah, well said!!

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 10:46 PM

My advice to Samy. Put MO on ignore. Problem solved.

Noted, DK, and good advice because I think I was one more one liner away from a midlife crisis,

Samy

P_chan

10-18-2007, 10:47 PM

I'm seriously starting to think he is just a old fashioned forum troll. I kinda stayed out of this until now just to see what happened, but now, I've made up my mind. All this could be solved if he just stopped bitching, or went about it a different way. I really don't like AFN radio or tv either, but I don't bitch at the hosts on the internet:thumbdown:

He gives the real medama oyaji a bad name!

Writer Sterling

10-18-2007, 10:50 PM

He gives the real madama oyaji a bad name!

Hey P. C,

What does that name really mean?

Does it stand for "one-liner"? I kid, I kid, but really though, in all seriousness, what does that name mean?

Samy

P_chan

10-18-2007, 10:57 PM

It's a fictional character (one of my favorite) from a 1950s japanese manga called GeGeGe no Kitaro. Medama Oyaji (translates to "eyeball father") is Kitaro's father. Well, it's his father's spirit brought back in the form of his eyeball. Kitaro goes around keeping the balance between the humans and yokai (kinda like japanese demons or ghosts). It's fairly famous and there are 100 statues of all the characters in the creator's home town of sakaiminato.

Here is a link that can explain it better then I can:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeGeGe_no_Kitaro

I really haven't seen much of the series but I always liked medama oyaji. Oh he is in a cup because he likes to keep himself clean and that's his bath!

Medama_Oyaji

10-19-2007, 08:44 AM