Catholic people (and other people,who believe in Jesus) in Japan!

[gb321wwo]

Jesus Christ's message in His revelations to St. Faustina
was that this is a time for Mercy.
The times we live in, more than any other in history,
call for a great outpouring of the Mercy of God.
As a result, the revelations to Faustina became known
as "The Message of Divine Mercy" and
Jesus received a new title -- "The Divine Mercy" --
similar to "The Sacred Heart" as a renaming of Jesus himself.


Say chaplet to God’s Mercy at 3 p.m. Special gift of grace!!!

It is, as Jesus passed on to St. Faustina (Journal 59),
the hour of great Mercy for the world and assures
us that no soul will perish if the chaplet is said
at least once; even the greatest sinners will receive
great Mercy at the hour of their death.

Jesus waits for you! Trust in Him....

The Divine Mercy message is like a simple ABC :
A - ask for His Mercy
B - be merciful
C - completely trust in Jesus


I and my family say the chaplet of Divine Mercy every day
at 3 pm (the Hour of Jesus's Death).
It is a wonderful prayer.
I encourage you to say the chaplet. You will be stronger
and stronger every day in your spirit.

Try! Remember : ABC

God waits for every new Apostle of God's Mercy,
especially in this dangerous time for the mankind.
My intention is to expand God's Glory
and encourage people to be open to Jesus's Mercy.

Let us pray for the world, for all of us...

In the Old Testament the prophets begged for God's mercy.
Following them we should do the same.
We are brothers and sisters, and every one of us
should be looking out for each other.

The message of The Divine Mercy is simple.
God loves us — all of us.
He wants us to recognize that His mercy is
greater than our sins, so that we will call upon
Him with trust, receive His mercy.


Chaplet to God's Mercy

Using normal rosary beads,begin with

The Lord's Prayer : Our Father, Who art in heaven,
hallowed be Thy name.....

Hail Mary V. Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.......

the Apostles Creed :

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven ..........

On the five large beads :

Eternal Father, I offer You the Body and Blood,
Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son,
Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins
and those of the whole world.

On the ten small beads :

V. For the sake of His sorrowful Passion,
R. Have mercy on us and on the whole world.

At the end of the Divine Mercy Chaplet say three times:

Holy God, Holy Mighty One Holy God, Holy
Mighty One, Holy Immortal One, have mercy
on us and on the whole world.

Invocation: O Blood and Water That Gushed Forth
(optional) O Blood and Water that gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus
as a fountain of mercy for us, I trust in You (3 times)

Sign of the Cross :

In the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

The Chaplet in japanese is available in the internet :
please see : 5stonesuccess.pl
God Bless You all

George

[P_chan]

Seems like spam or some type of forum troll if you ask me :thumbdown:

[Fonze]

Wow. homie

[dk]

Seems like spam or some type of forum troll if you ask me :thumbdown:
I was thinking the same based on the 5stonesuccess.pl thing. I'm waiting for him or her to post again to know for sure, but to be safe, do not download any attachments he or she posts if any are posted.

[gb321wwo]

There is no spam.

It is very serious matter. It relates to God's Message
given to St.Faustina.
The Message is directed to all people of good will,who
believe in Jesus,ou God.

[dk]

So, what is the .pl then?

And what is ou God?

And why is your message title of your last post "God's Mercy" even though it has nothing to do with mercy?

[TheNoNamedOne]

There is no spam.

It is very serious matter. It relates to God's Message
given to St.Faustina.
The Message is directed to all people of good will,who
believe in Jesus,ou God.

I think religion is a serious matter, too. Looking forward to more of your commentary on it. I encourage you to share with us what you know about it.

Btw, welcome to the forum.

[P_chan]

There is no spam.

It is very serious matter. It relates to God's Message
given to St.Faustina.
The Message is directed to all people of good will,who
believe in Jesus,ou God.

Just seems like all those religious nonsense spams I get every once in a while.

[Muku]

I was thinking the same based on the 5stonesuccess.pl thing. I'm waiting for him or her to post again to know for sure, but to be safe, do not download any attachments he or she posts if any are posted.
Here is a link to a site that explains more about what the OP wrote.

Saint M. Faustina Kowalska (http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/mercy/stfaust.htm)

The ABC's he talked about are;
A — Ask for His Mercy. God wants us to approach
Him in prayer constantly, repenting of our sins and
asking Him to pour His mercy out upon us and upon
the whole world.

B — Be merciful. God wants us to receive His mercy
and let it flow through us to others. He wants us to
extend love and forgiveness to others just as He does
to us.

C — Completely trust in Jesus. God wants us to know
that the graces of His mercy are dependent upon our
trust. The more we trust in Jesus, the more we will
receive.



If you look through the link there is actually quite a bit of information about this particular Saint and her message.


And what is ou God?


DK I think that is a simple typo, ou should be our, as in Jesus our God.

[Muku]

Well it seems that this was posted in other locations as well, but seeing as how JU is mostly about Okinawa the following part was not included here. The following information preceeded the information in the OP Otherwise the two posts are exactly the same.

It I think is from a person that has good intentions that's all.

Interesting how the foreign community in the church feel like they are not accepted as equals, just like the rest of society here in Japan. It's a shame.


In April of 2007 Bishop Masahiro Umemura of Yokohama
issued a "Basic Policy on the Pastoral Care of Foreigners in
the Diocese of Yokohama" and a pastoral letter,
"New Evangelization/Pastoral Representative Committees
for Common Pastoral Care and District Common
Evangelization/Pastoral Committees."

Speaking of Catholics from other countries
and the attitudes of some Japanese Catholics toward them,
the bishop averred, "They are not guests, but full members.
We are not merely trying to reform the system, but change
peoples' thinking."

"In one church that has a Mass for foreigners at
a fixed time on Sunday afternoon, the time of the Mass was
changed to suit some event organized by the Japanese
community without consulting these people," the bishop explained.

"They are not merely using the church building, but many people
think that's the case. These people are our brothers and sisters.
They are full members, and people must realize this." he said.

[ja_Patriot]

So, gb321wwo, is it too much to ask if you are a catholic priest or layperson in Oki or in Japan?

For myself, that'd be OK. Maybe, as you took the time to post here, you can participate in some discussions and add a different perspective. Perhaps even keep us honest.

Nevertheless be forewarned, you'll be treated and respected just like any other poster.

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Just to let you know, my family has paid a few visits to the Shrine of the Divine Mercy in Stockbridge, MA.


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[gb321wwo]

I would like to dispel all doubts you mentioned :

1. In the 1930s, Sister Faustina received from the Lord a
Message of Mercy that she was told to spread throughout
the world. She was asked to become the apostle and secretary
of God's Mercy, a model of how to be merciful to others, and
an instrument for reemphasizing God's plan of mercy for the world.


2. A History. Jesus, I trust in you.

The Divine Mercy Chaplet is based on the spirituality
of Saint Faustina Kowalska (1905-1938). It is associated with a holy
image and the motto, "Jesus, I trust in you". The feast day of Divine
Mercy is the Sunday after Easter.

The key revelation to Saint Faustina was that God's mercy is infinite
and unfailing. The Divine Mercy message asks the faithful to implore
God's mercy for the entire world, to be merciful and forgiving towards
others, and to trust in God completely.

At the time of Faustina's death in 1938, the Divine Mercy message
was little known outside Poland. During the Second World War,
1939-1945, the chaplet gained popularity in both Poland and Lithuania.
It also reached the United States.

There was a temporary ban on the devotion from 1958 to 1978 while
Vatican officials reviewed Faustina's writings in light of Church doctrine.
The ban was lifted in April 1978 with the help of the Archbishop of
Kracow, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla. He became Pope John Paul II later that
same year.

Since then, the Divine Mercy message has spread worldwide.

The Divine Mercy apostolate, established by the Marians in 1944, is
headquartered in Stockbridge, Massachusetts. The Congregation of
Marians of the Immaculate Conception. is a religious order of fathers
and brothers, founded in Poland in 1673. Father Joseph Jarzebowski,
a member of the order, introduced the Divine Mercy devotion to
the United States in 1941.


3. Jesus said St.Faustina :

"I sent prophets wielding thunderbolts to My people. Today I am
sending you with My mercy to the people of the whole world.
I do not want to punish aching mankind, but I desire to heal it,
pressing it to My Merciful Heart (Diary 1588)";

"Tell sinners that no one shall escape My Hand; if they
run away from My Merciful Heart, they will fall into My
Just Hands. Tell sinners that I am always waiting for them,
that I listen intently to the beating of their heart... When will it
beat for Me? Write that I am speaking to them through their
remorse of conscience, through their failures and sufferings,
through thunderstorms, through the voice of the Church.
And if they bring all My graces to naught, I begin to be angry with
them, leaving them alone and giving them
what they want" (Diary 1728);

"If a soul does not exercise mercy somehow or other, it will not
obtain My mercy on the day of judgment. Oh, if only souls knew
how to gather eternal treasure for themselves, they would not be
judged, for they would forestall My judgment with
their mercy" (Diary 1317)".

"Write these Words down,My daughter;tell the world about My
Mercy. Let the whole mankind know My Infinite Mercy.
This is a sign for the ultimite times,soon after a day of Justice
comes...[Diary 848]"

4. My name is George and am from the same country as Pope John
Paul II and St.Faustina.

Regarding my website : www.5stonesuccess.pl ,
do not worry : everything is in conformity with God's Word,
and there is no spam in it as well.
There is,among others,a chaplet to the Divine Mercy in 17 languages.

5. I encourage you all to respond to God's Wish.
Do try to pass the Message over to every man who believes in Jesus.
Tell them about God's Love and Mercy - God's Mercy is open only
to a remorseful and a humble sinner.

Say the chaplet to God's Mercy at 3 p.m.(the Hour of Jesus's
Death)! Special gift of Grace!

You will be stronger and stronger in your spirit looking for God
every day. Trust in Him.

God Bless You all!

George

[P_chan]

5. I encourage you all to respond to God's Wish.
Do try to pass the Message over to every man who believes in Jesus.

Not trying to bust your chops or anything, but.....why should I?

Couldn't I just advise others to treat people with respect and dignity, yet leave the whole jesus and god spiel out of it? Would that somehow make me (and the people I'm encouraging to act this way) any different then someone who does throw the god aspect in there? Does the fact that I leave religious myth and fairy tales out of it make me a bad person?

[gb321wwo]

No religious myth and fairy tales!
It relates to God. Our deeds and faith in God will be counted
on our Judgement Day.

[dk]

Couldn't I just advise others to treat people with respect and dignity, yet leave the whole jesus and god spiel out of it? Would that somehow make me (and the people I'm encouraging to act this way) any different then someone who does throw the god aspect in there? Does the fact that I leave religious myth and fairy tales out of it make me a bad person?
Makes you a good person in my book.

[Fonze]

gb321wwo does the fact that some don't believe yet believe in being good human bieng make them less than us who do believe?

[P_chan]

No religious myth and fairy tales!
It relates to God. Our deeds and faith in God will be counted
on our Judgement Day.

No, it doesn't relate to 'god' at all. I would have to believe in one for that to be true, and I don't.

Nope, seems like fairy tales to me.

If your a good person, then your a good person. You don't need some imaginary supreme being behind you wagging his finger at you telling you to do what is 'right' and threating you with eternal suffering. You should be able to do that out of respect and compassion for your fellow human being. The people who need the imaginary deity behind them are just as bad as those 'sinners' that they are so quick to judge.

[Fonze]

P chan question do you believe in any god or the Japanese way of beliefs?

[P_chan]

I don't believe in god. We have disregarded so many other religions of the past as fake and untrue, so what makes the current ones right? However, I don't rule out the possibility of a being who is more evolved then us, but that doesn't make them a god.

I believe in living a good life and being kind, polite, and accepting of others as much as you can. That makes you a good person IMO.

[ja_Patriot]

You're so sure of yourself you even have your ideas numbered to dispel our doubt.

How about item no. 6. There are about 2.6 billion Muslims, Jews and non-Christians out there. What's the deal with them? Not to be sarcastic, but hell must be a big place, huh?

And the people in Darfur? Should they be number 7?

George, people bite all the time with this sort of spam thing, the next thing we know you'll be asking for donations, right?

Be honest, how many email addresses do you have for this sort of thing?


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[Asshat]

George, thanks for caring enough to post. No thanks though. I'm pretty sure God is cool with me based on what I have done in my life. I don't want to go the heaven anyway. Got a lot of nut cases up there beating each other over the head with their only true beliefs, probably no beer, no hookers, and no smokes.

You figure out the incantation that lets me continue to live on this planet forever, and I'm there dude!

[gb321wwo]

Here is a testimony I have received recently as a reply
to my post in another forum :

Have you seen or heard this done on EWTN? You can also get this on video (the Divine Mercy Chaplet in song.). It is
extremely moving. We have used this to help share some of our faiths treasures with our protestant neighbors and friends. Our neighbors through a good deal of sharing (being lead by God to do so) and the Holy Spirit preparing good ground now consider themselves "batholics" instead of baptists.

It is wonderful that people of various denomination can unite in praying,especially saying a chaplet to God's Mercy.
I encourage all of you to pray and to expand God's Glory!

[P_chan]

I really need to stay out of religious threads because they really piss me off. Must be all the ignorance......er..... I mean faith:D

[DougP]

I'm not really understanding gb's posts. They don't really seem to be in response to anyone else posting in this thread. They don't seem to have any real significance to the title of this thread either. I'm baffled here.

[dk]

I'm not really understanding gb's posts. They don't really seem to be in response to anyone else posting in this thread. They don't seem to have any real significance to the title of this thread either. I'm baffled here.
They don't really seem to have any substance either. I mean, they have words, but they don't really mean anything.

And that's not an attack against religion. At least when Ian and the other guy do it, their words more or less make sense or have thought behind it, but I read that above post twice and just shrugged and moved on.

BRB, gonna go talk to the tooth fairy and then call santa clause on the psychic hotline. Then after that, I need to find rudolph a replacement nose. His don't light up anymore. If there's any time after that, I'm really broke right now so I'm going to go find a pot of gold at the end of some rainbow. Isn't imagation fun? We all need imaginary friends.

[P_chan]

I'm not really understanding gb's posts. They don't really seem to be in response to anyone else posting in this thread. They don't seem to have any real significance to the title of this thread either. I'm baffled here.

Maybe he's a forum troll. A religious forum troll.

[Isaak Brodsky]

still seems incoherent.

what - precisely - is the purpose of the thread? what we are we enjoined to do now?

criticize? support?

[gb321wwo]

DK,Ian Brody,P Chan,

if you believed in God, Jesus our Lord, you would not say it as above.

Jesus's Message is simple :

trust in God's Mercy

tell everyone about God's Mercy -
- many sinners do not trust (even do not know) in God's Mercy

pray,especially say a chaplet to God's Mercy at 3 p.m.(the hour
of Jesus's Death) Special gift of grace! - a prayer
helpful for every sinner to ask for God's Mercy

ask for God's Mercy if there is time.
This is a time for God's Mercy says Jesus.
Soon after there will be a time of Justice.

God's Mercy is open to every remorseful and humble sinner!

That is the point!

[TheNoNamedOne]

still seems incoherent.

what - precisely - is the purpose of the thread? what we are we enjoined to do now?

criticize? support?

Neither, I would presume. I think it is proselytizing (sp? [Damn! Can never remember how to spell that word]).

[Fonze]

I think the thread name says it all.
If you don't like it don't read it.

[dk]

I think the thread name says it all.
If you don't like it don't read it.
I'm still not convinced that it's not spam...

[DougP]

I can't believe its not butter

[dk]

I can't believe its not butter
This can't be yogurt!

[DougP]

This can't be yogurt!

Yogurt! Yogurt! I hate Yogurt! Even with Strawberries
I bet she gives great helmet.:D

[Fonze]

I don't but hey thats just me. It seems you guys are anti christian:) I dont see anyone questioning the Bhuddist thread.

[DougP]

The posts look more like copy and pastes from the bible and less like someone's very own personal thoughts. To me that equals spam. No content to this thread at all yet... except for the one liner puns :D

[Fonze]

I not trying to defend the poster just wonder why this bothers atheist so much. Its just like changing the channel when you dont like whats on.

[dk]

I don't but hey thats just me. It seems you guys are anti christian:) I dont see anyone questioning the Bhuddist thread.
I'm not anti-christian. I was raised christian. Which is why I relate more to this thread than the other one. I dislike religion equally, but at least in christian threads I can know what I'm talking about half th time.

[dk]

The posts look more like copy and pastes from the bible and less like someone's very own personal thoughts. To me that equals spam. No content to this thread at all yet... except for the one liner puns :D
This is exactly what I mean.

[DougP]

Mmmm I think for the most part its not whether its a religious thread or not for me. It looks, feels, sounds like spam to me. I'm anti spam. I'd rather hear personal beliefs on any subject rather than scripture or copy and pasting someone else's thoughts on a subject. I would rather people bring their own mind to the table instead of someone else's that's all. :)

[dk]

I'd rather hear personal beliefs on any subject rather than scripture or copy and pasting someone else's thoughts on a subject.
In his thesis on life, John Henry Scott Lewis states similar beliefs as you. He states that to spam a message board, you must have a pretty depraved mind (Lewis, 1994, p. 58).

[Fonze]

Mmmm I think for the most part its not whether its a religious thread or not for me. It looks, feels, sounds like spam to me. I'm anti spam. I'd rather hear personal beliefs on any subject rather than scripture or copy and pasting someone else's thoughts on a subject. I would rather people bring their own mind to the table instead of someone else's that's all. :)

There are threads like that. This should'nt bother a normal adult.:D

[DougP]

Heh I'm not normal:D

[P_chan]

DK,Ian Brody,P Chan,

if you believed in God, Jesus our Lord, you would not say it as above.

Jesus's Message is simple :

trust in God's Mercy

tell everyone about God's Mercy -
- many sinners do not trust (even do not know) in God's Mercy

pray,especially say a chaplet to God's Mercy at 3 p.m.(the hour
of Jesus's Death) Special gift of grace! - a prayer
helpful for every sinner to ask for God's Mercy

ask for God's Mercy if there is time.
This is a time for God's Mercy says Jesus.
Soon after there will be a time of Justice.

God's Mercy is open to every remorseful and humble sinner!

That is the point!

You see, this just seems like spam to me. Like he copied and pasted something he read somewhere else. What I would like to see is his own opinion. Not recycled garbage that he read somewhere, or some preacher preached to him (which was probably preached to that preacher). Blind faith like that is complete nonsense IMHO.

I don't but hey thats just me. It seems you guys are anti christian:) I dont see anyone questioning the Bhuddist thread.

I'm not anti christian, I'm just not religious at all. Sorry, I don't believe in myths and fairy tales.

[Fonze]

Whats wrong with pasting and copying? Maybe he did read it and wanted to share it with those that believe or have interest in it.

Are you saying you don't want this kind of stuff on this forum?

Pchan so you don't believwe in the okinawan practices either?

[P_chan]

Nothing wrong with copying and pasting something. But usually, people like to throw their own ideas and beliefs in there too. He just seems to recycle what he hears or reads and doesn't develop any type of thought of his own on the matter.

Nope, I observe them because of my wife, but that doesn't mean I believe in them. I was raised roman catholic (raised polish roman catholic too, just like the thread starter) and I don't believe in that either.

[dk]

People can copy and paste all they like, but if the majority of every post is just pasted text from somewhere else with no original thought then no, I'd rather they don't post here. This isn't a junkyard for copying and pasting crap. I'm not saying every single thought you post must be original, but people should at least put in an effort to communicate and not just vomit up text they stole from somewhere else.

[Fonze]

Pchan do you sit and tell your wife that her beliefs are fairy tales and myths?

dk this guy seems like he's just trying to share, he has written stuff in his own defense but I see your point.

[P_chan]

No, I respect her beliefs, just like I do his anyone else. Now if she asked me if I believed that a shisa actually came to life to fight off a dragon, I would tell her no.

But the point is not a lack of respect for his choices. It's the fact that he seems to simply be repeating what is told to him and spamming up the forum. Also, the fact that he is preaching it to me like it's fact, once it can't be proven as fact, irks me a bit too..

[Fonze]

Okay i can respect that, I dont think he preaching to you if you dont fall in the category of the thread title. I think your letting yourself get preached to. Seriuosly you don't have to read this. Am I wrong?

[P_chan]

I don't have to wipe my ass after I take a crap either but I still do.

[cohen avshalom]

since i am living at the same place that jesus was living-15 minute drive from nazerat-you fill here at his spirit every where here-any one know who he was been.

cohen avshalom charly
israel/haifa

[P_chan]

That really didn't make much sense but I think your saying you can feel his spirit in isreal. I believe your feeling his "presence" because you want to feel his presence. Now if someone went there, who has never even heard of any type of religion, do you think they would feel his "presence"? I don't think so.

[Bones]

As posted by P_chan:

That really didn't make much sense but I think your saying you can feel his spirit in isreal. I believe your feeling his "presence" because you want to feel his presence. Now if someone went there, who has never even heard of any type of religion, do you think they would feel his "presence"? I don't think so.

Why not?

It has served us well, this myth of Christ.
-Pope Benedict VI

May not not make much sense to you, but you have to take into consideration how many times "The Bible", has been revised.

I'm not a religious person, but have read enough books on the subject. Who's to say, that the founders of the current "Bible", as we know it, didn't adapt the language used within those books, to accommodate our way of thinking?

NBTP

[P_chan]

Why not?

Maybe because I'm not to into the whole "spiritual" thing.

[okisteve]

I'm inclined to agree that it really is all in your mind. There's another thread about ghosts in Okinawa that is kind of interesting, and when I first came here I was reading a lot about the Battle and all the tragedies, and started thinking that I was sensing the spirits of those who perished violently. Now after a few years I no longer sense them, even though I now live practically inside the Shikina cemetery. (But my stepdaughter hasn't slept in her own room for the past week because her friend said she saw the door slide open by itself one night.)

I lived in Israel and certainly got a sense that history was alive there but in general what I felt walking around at night was paranoia of getting a knife in my ribs.