pregnant

[Jaquelyn]

so i just found out im pregnant, i have no insurance. and i am a civilian. my BF is in the airforce and i cant get a flight home til oct. is there anywhere i can go off base, like a free clinic or something?

[Rock Lee]

Congratulations, but dont look at this as a negative situation. Can your boyfriend help you out w/ finding a clinic? Im sure he can ask around.

[Haru-sa]

adventist medical center, B/F should cover the cost...

[DougP]

adventist medical center, B/F should cover 1/2 the cost...

Corrected it. :) It takes two to tango.:first:

[dk]

I'm pregnant too...

It's Doug's...

[DougP]

I demand a DNA test cause DK is a whore. :D

[dk]

I demand a DNA test cause DK is a whore. :D
Well, it's either yours or P_chan's...

[P_chan]

Well, it's either yours or P_chan's...

Wait, I thought we only dry humped?

[TheLastDon]

Thread derailment in 4 posts.:thumbup:




Expect it to cost at least $1,000 in yen.

[Mehi River]

wow! expensive thread derailment!

[Oceandreamer]

so i just found out im pregnant, i have no insurance. and i am a civilian. my BF is in the airforce and i cant get a flight home til oct. is there anywhere i can go off base, like a free clinic or something?


Dang! Quite the little souvenir!

How are you feeling?

[canjap02]

I would say go and get yourself some insureance, that will be cheaper then anything your going to find off base. When I had my baby we had to pay 260000yen ($2500) but since I pay japanese health insureance I got all of it back in a month. If your SOFA I dont know if you can get japanese health incureance or not.

But dont worry everthing will work out and you will have a beautiful new baby. Congrads

[Haru-sa]

I would say go and get yourself some insureance, that will be cheaper then anything your going to find off base. When I had my baby we had to pay 260000yen ($2500) but since I pay japanese health insureance I got all of it back in a month. If your SOFA I dont know if you can get japanese health incureance or not.

But dont worry everthing will work out and you will have a beautiful new baby. Congrads

think she's just looking for an initial look and checkup to get things started since she's rolling out in October. could be mistaken though...

[Haru-sa]

Corrected it. :) It takes two to tango.:first:

true, I screwed the pooch on that one. I'll make up for it in a minute...:scratchchin:

[Haru-sa]

so i just found out im pregnant, i have no insurance. and i am a civilian. my BF is in the airforce and i cant get a flight home til oct. is there anywhere i can go off base, like a free clinic or something?

So, now that you're "safe", wanna hook up? :scared:

[abonifi1]

so i just found out im pregnant, i have no insurance. and i am a civilian. my BF is in the airforce and i cant get a flight home til oct. is there anywhere i can go off base, like a free clinic or something?

Well glad to see the gene pool getting polluted some.

Based on the superior planning and steps taken by the parents, I can already predictthis child's life.:scared:

[Zim the Invader]

Well glad to see the gene pool getting polluted some.

Based on the superior planning and steps taken by the parents, I can already predictthis child's life.:scared:

Maybe she has similar beliefs and that's why she's looking for a free clinic.:scratchchin: All she's said is that she's looking for a clinic, she hasn't said why or what she plans on doing there. We don't know her yet, so I don't think it's fair to judge her yet. Everyone else is still fair game though. :P

[DJ Tak]

Well glad to see the gene pool getting polluted some.

Based on the superior planning and steps taken by the parents, I can already predictthis child's life.:scared:

Fukk u dude. Judge often?

[abonifi1]

Maybe she has similar beliefs and that's why she's looking for a free clinic.:scratchchin: All she's said is that she's looking for a clinic, she hasn't said why or what she plans on doing there. We don't know her yet, so I don't think it's fair to judge her yet. Everyone else is still fair game though. :P

Let's see:

I'm Pregnant, I have no insurance, My BF, I cannot get home until Oct.

Its all you need to read to make a reasonable assumption

[Richard Burns]

Doesn't the fact that she's looking for a clinic show responsibility? Not everybody plans on kids. Things happen. I've see young single moms that are excellent parents.

[abonifi1]

Doesn't the fact that she's looking for a clinic show responsibility? Not everybody plans on kids. Things happen. I've see young single moms that are excellent parents.

Shows she didn't have the responsibility to begin with, now her option is gone.

[dk]

Hey Abonifi:

Shit Happens!

lol

I'd like to impregnate sig girl...

[Richard Burns]

Shows she didn't have the responsibility to begin with, now her option is gone.

No it doesn't. Condoms break and BC is not 100%. So again shit happens.

[abonifi1]

No it doesn't. Condoms break and BC is not 100%. So again shit happens.

Using the excuses, doesn't excuse poor or lack of decisions.

When her kids on here bitching about their rotten child, as you do now, then I throw my I told you so.

[Zim the Invader]

Let's see:

I'm Pregnant, I have no insurance, My BF, I cannot get home until Oct.

Its all you need to read to make a reasonable assumption

You seem to have missed my point.

She may feel she isn't ready for parenthood and be looking for a free clinic to terminate. Or, she's looking to verify the results of a home pregnancy test to clear up any confusion about any results she's received. Or, they plan to keep the child and are getting married and, although a child is unexpected, they have adjusted their budget to accomodate but it leaves her needing to wait until October to go home but she wants to start prenatal care early.

My point is, we don't know enough, so judging this soon is ill advised. We need to collect more information before presenting a proper decision.

But by all means, if it turns out she's a **** up, call it like it is. Just don't jump the gun.

*EDIT*
But until we get more info, I'm with Haru-sa. You know she's pretty. Her boyfriend is in the AF, and you know they always buy the good stuff.

[abonifi1]

You seem to have missed my point.

She may feel she isn't ready for parenthood and be looking for a free clinic to terminate. Or, she's looking to verify the results of a home pregnancy test to clear up any confusion about any results she's received. Or, they plan to keep the child and are getting married and, although a child is unexpected, they have adjusted their budget to accomodate but it leaves her needing to wait until October to go home but she wants to start prenatal care early.

My point is, we don't know enough, so judging this soon is ill advised. We need to collect more information before presenting a proper decision.

But by all means, if it turns out she's a **** up, call it like it is. Just don't jump the gun.

the thumbs down on the post, along with the lookingfor a free clinic can show you her intentions (which is a whole other point).

The point of the matter she is irresponsible. Plain and Simple.

And so is her boyfriend. Either way she has polluted the gene pool.

[Okiman]

so i just found out im pregnant, i have no insurance. and i am a civilian. my BF is in the airforce and i cant get a flight home til oct. is there anywhere i can go off base, like a free clinic or something?

I am not sure of your situation, but if you are a civilian, then you should be covered for use of the military medical facilities. If you are a dependent then you are still covered up to 23 years old if you are unmarried and are in college, otherwise it is up to 21 years old. If these do not apply then Adventist would be the first choice that I would recommend for offbase.

[Okiman]

I'd like to impregnate sig girl...


Come on, you know that when you give that cup to the nurse, that is it. You do not get to met the recipiant. :D

[0341isa]

That was about the most judgemental, haughty, BS post i've read in some time. To suggest that by finding herself in this situtation she "pollutes the gene pool" is almost making the rediculous assertion that every couple who's ever had an unplanned pregnancy is a **** up.

Guess what, if they were a married couple, a couple WITH insurance, or even simply a couple who happened to have the money on hand to cover out of pocket, and they found themselves in this situation, but did NOT need to ask for this advice, would that make them less irresponsible?

Or, is every married couple who didn't plan the birth of every child polluting the gene pool? After all, the circumstances may be different, but the actions are exactly the same. Having sex resulting in a pregnancy that was not intended.

So really JU, how many of you here were not explicitly planned children? I think someone just called you all society's genetic undesireable pollution.


Oh, its because she's irresponsible. OK. , even if true, does carrying an undesireable personality trait make you now unfir to breed? Make you unfit to add to the collective gene pool? Ater all, you know what else is an undesireable character trait? How about being judgemental and condecendening to the point that when someone reaches out for help, your priority is more to judge and chastise than to help a person in need. Maybe that kinda haughty, aristocratic BS is a negative character trait we don't want in the gene pool. (BTW, actually character traits are mostly learned behaviors NOT genetic, making the whole argument and the comment that started it invalid hmmm?)


But then's that's just my dumbass 2yen.

[Okiman]

So really JU, how many of you here were not explicitly planned children? I think someone just called you all societies genetic undesireable pollution.



I know I was not one. I could not of imagined my parents (chills running down me talking about it) sitting up with a calander and a clock saying oh yea right now is the perfect time.

[Lowerdeez]

Yeah this thread turned out to be pretty stupid.

Keep you judgmental attitude to yourself.

And to you prego, you should have that b/f of yours talk to someone on base, its your best bet. But thanks for the lack of details because its easy to give advice on where to go when you don't give us any real information...really.

[abonifi1]

That was about the most judgemental, haughty, BS post i've read in some time. To suggest that by finding herself in this situtation she "pollutes the gene pool" is almost making the rediculous assertion that every couple who's ever had an unplanned pregnancy is a **** up.

Guess what, if they were a married couple, a couple WITH insurance, or even simply a couple who happened to have the money on hand to cover out of pocket, and they found themselves in this situation, but did NOT need to ask for this advice, would that make them less irresponsible?

Or, is every married couple who didn't plan the birth of every child polluting the gene pool? After all, the circumstances may be different, but the actions are exactly the same. Having sex resulting in a pregnancy that was not intended.

So really JU, how many of you here were not explicitly planned children? I think someone just called you all society's genetic undesireable pollution.


Oh, its because she's irresponsible. OK. , even if true, does carrying an undesireable personality trait make you now unfir to breed? Make you unfit to add to the collective gene pool? Ater all, you know what else is an undesireable character trait? How about being judgemental and condecendening to the point that when someone reaches out for help, your priority is more to judge and chastise than to help a person in need. Maybe that kinda haughty, aristocratic BS is a negative character trait we don't want in the gene pool. (BTW, actually character traits are mostly learned behaviors NOT genetic, making the whole argument and the comment that started it invalid hmmm?)


But then's that's just my dumbass 2yen.

Yes it makes them just as irresponsible...........

But having the facilities to take care of your own problems, shows at least their positions in life will allow them to compensate for their irresponsibility.

She is asking for help to get a handout, a free handout, in a country she doesn't even live in.

I highly doubt she got pregnant out here, but if she did it makes her even more irresponsible and maybe she should be out of her house and with her boyfriend.

There is nothing about her actions that represent a rational, intelligent thinking person, I see a future Jerry Springer episode.

[macker]

http://textileinnovations.com/images/ist2_52084-clothes-hanger-1.jpg

[macker]

I know.. Bad taste!!!

[dk]

I know I was not one. I could not of imagined my parents (chills running down me talking about it) sitting up with a calander and a clock saying oh yea right now is the perfect time.

I just like having sex. :thumbup:

[Richard Burns]

It's my guess that more children are unplanned than planned. It actually makes no sense to me when couples actually plan/try to have kids.

I'm happy that I have kids and I was happy both times the wife was pregnant. But it was like if it happens it happens if it don't it don't at the same time ( RB has his fingers crossed hoping it don't ) but the little Burns' are here.

So far their childhood is a million times better than a childhood I could even dream up for myself and that's an understatement.

[Haru-sa]

Yes it makes them just as irresponsible...........

There is nothing about her actions that represent a rational, intelligent thinking person, I see a future Jerry Springer episode.

Damn, I hope you live your life as perfect as you preach it. And here I thought I was well over the stupid and insensitive line when I asked if she wanted to hook up (it was at leat halfway a joke). Seriously though, thanks for taking the heat off of me by using far superior jackassery.

[Oxmix]

so i just found out im pregnant, i have no insurance. and i am a civilian. my BF is in the airforce and i cant get a flight home til oct. is there anywhere i can go off base, like a free clinic or something?

Congratulations.
You are about to become a Mother. Have you told your BF? I'm sure he will be happy to learn that he is about to become a father.

I hope your pregnancy goes well.

Regards

Ox

[OtisPMerriweather]

Damn, I hope you live your life as perfect as you preach it. And here I thought I was well over the stupid and insensitive line when I asked if she wanted to hook up (it was at leat halfway a joke). Seriously though, thanks for taking the heat off of me by using far superior jackassery.

No, abonifi with his "master's degree" and Singapore Dream Girl and his condescending, snooty ass are the pentultimate example of how to live a responsible, productive life.

We should all be thankful that he takes time out from his awesome life to post here.

BTW, why ARE you posting here? Shouldn't you be yodeling in the Alps or having dinner wih Brad Pitt or something? Oh right, I forgot...you really AREN'T important, you just like to think that you are.

[shleywren]

I don't know about any clinics, but if you are a civilian and you should be able to get some help and definitely get your BF to help whether by finding you help and helping pay or getting him to step up and take some responsibility. Congratulations though! A baby is a wonderful thing.



To all the rest of you who have criticized this girl: plenty of pregnancies are unplanned even with condoms and birth control. Heck! There are women that have even gotten pregnant after they have had their tubes tied. She is probably already having a hard enough time as it is coming to terms with what is going on. PLUS her hormones are going all crazy and she is going to be more sensitive to everything. SHAME on you guys and I do mean guys seeing as most women wouldn't say things like this to another woman. She just put a post on here to ask for advice, not to be ridiculed.

[macker]

We like to throw stones... Its what the internet is all about!!

http://www.seraphicpress.com/images/Throwing%2BStones.JPEG

[P_chan]

Yeah just don't make a joke about a stupid reg that came about because of some marine's poor judgment:D:D:D

[macker]

WOW.. U still harbor animosity about that!!!:)

[amplify]

I'm sure the first 4 replies to her post scared her off the JU fourms as she hasn't posted any replies to all the bulls*** after that. :ohmy:

[bli182_2001]

she is a dumb ass that got knocked up being sinle and all, use protection for once?

[P_chan]

WOW.. U still harbor animosity about that!!!:)

No, but the contradiction still makes me chuckle from time to time.:D

[macker]

Yeah... I do wear a few different hats.. the hypocrisy hat is my favorite!! :D

[P_chan]

Yeah... I do wear a few different hats.. the hypocrisy hat is my favorite!! :D

Meh, I prefer the leather suit with the huge bulge:D

[Richard Burns]

she is a dumb ass that got knocked up being sinle and all, use protection for once?

Really? Condoms break and also are not 100%, BC is not 100% and a chick CAN get pregnant even with her tubes tied.

So what then????

Ridiculous ass shit.

[macker]

keep her legs closed.. but if she did that she wouldn't have had Boy friend

[amplify]

keep her legs closed.. but if she did that she wouldn't have had Boy friend

What are you talking about? Some couples are abstinent.

SOME. :thumbup:

[Oceandreamer]

she is a dumb ass that got knocked up being sinle and all, use protection for once?

Wow! Didn’t know you were so judgmental

We were blessed with my youngest from 'protection'.
They are only 99% effective!

Glad you have been lucky not to have the 1% catch you!
Just because she did get pregnant does not make her irresponsible!

[bli182_2001]

your right im just in the mood to be mean sorry

[Richard Burns]

keep her legs closed.. but if she did that she wouldn't have had Boy friend

That only works so long. Masterbation can only get you off so long but humans need real sex so what then.

[amplify]

Anyway...
http://homepage.mac.com/omegaosx/.Pictures/dead_thread.jpg

[abonifi1]

No, abonifi with his "master's degree" and Singapore Dream Girl and his condescending, snooty ass are the pentultimate example of how to live a responsible, productive life.

We should all be thankful that he takes time out from his awesome life to post here.

BTW, why ARE you posting here? Shouldn't you be yodeling in the Alps or having dinner wih Brad Pitt or something? Oh right, I forgot...you really AREN'T important, you just like to think that you are.

Look at the pot call the kettle black.

And I am sure somewhere and somehow you will convince yourself that that is aracist statement intended towards you.

The girl is on here looking for a free abortion. She got knocked up, she is irresponsible, her boyfriend is irresponsible and that is all there is to it, anybody who condones such poor judgement, I feel sorry for you when your children are in the same situation.

There is absolutely no reason people cannot control themselves. for gods sake how hard is it to pull out.

Maybe alot of you are just pissed because thats how you ended up with your kids and your wives, but being responsible has its benefits, it allows you to get that masters degree, and not have to yourdelf, or have your kids grow up in "da hood" or pretendits somesortofbadge of honor.

Here is where the problem comes in, if it bothers you, because you resemble what I said, then maybe you'll want to make sure the same doesn't happen to your children, aside from that, it should bother every one that this girl is in here looking for a free abortion whether you agree with it or not, and thats what it comes down to.

[amplify]

Here is where the problem comes in, if it bothers you, because you resemble what I said, then maybe you'll want to make sure the same doesn't happen to your children, aside from that, it should bother every one that this girl is in here looking for a free abortion whether you agree with it or not, and thats what it comes down to.

I know there are free clinics that give prenatal vitamins too... let's jump to conclusions again. :thumbdown:

Edit::
And whether I agree with it or not I would try to help her because it's for her best interest instead of attack her.

[Zim the Invader]

keep her legs closed.. but if she did that she wouldn't have had Boy friend

Well, that would fix her problem too. Kinda hard for a chick to knock up another chick. I'd be willing to watch them try though. :thumbup:

[Jrocka83]

You come to here for advice. Your whole life just changed, the old you is gone. Now be a WOMAN pick your ass up, get the help you need, and take care of the child. And stop blaming others, for the predicaments you put yourself in.

[Richard Burns]

You come to here for advice. Your whole life just changed, the old you is gone. Now be a WOMAN pick your ass up, get the help you need, and take care of the child. And stop blaming others, for the predicaments you put yourself in.

Damn son you must have some kind of super psycic powers or something cuz nowhere in the OP did I see her blame anybody.

[uriel]

The girl is on here looking for a free abortion. She got knocked up, she is irresponsible, her boyfriend is irresponsible and that is all there is to it, anybody who condones such poor judgement, I feel sorry for you when your children are in the same situation.

There is absolutely no reason people cannot control themselves. for gods sake how hard is it to pull out.

Here is where the problem comes in, if it bothers you, because you resemble what I said, then maybe you'll want to make sure the same doesn't happen to your children, aside from that, it should bother every one that this girl is in here looking for a free abortion whether you agree with it or not, and thats what it comes down to.

for someone so smart, your ignorance amazes me. how many millions of people get pregnant because "pulling out" doesn't work? in addition to your arrogance and ignorance, you also are putting words into her mouth. "clinic" isn't spelled "abortion". women also go to "clinics" to get pregnancy care. here's one, many people say the word "clinic" instead of "hospital". but you wouldn't think of that, would you?

[0341isa]

There is absolutely no reason people cannot control themselves. for gods sake how hard is it to pull out.

I'll go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume that this statement was made in an oversimplified attempt to express an general feeling as opposed to you actually believing that. I mean SURELY you are more educated than to believe its as simple as "pulling out". There is usually sperm in precum you know. Hell, if wearing a condom is not fool proof, how would the pull and pray method be?


Maybe alot of you are just pissed because thats how you ended up with your kids and your wives, but being responsible has its benefits, it allows you to get that masters degree, and not have to yourdelf, or have your kids grow up in "da hood" or pretendits somesortofbadge of honor.


No, I'd say a lot of posters "are pissed" because some with a problem came here asking for help and advice, and instead of even trying to help, certain people, most notably YOU would rather judge her, belittle and criticize her than try to help someone in need. What if, IF she was just some irresponsible kid who got pregnant on a mistake. What IF all she wanted was an abortion? So it's better for her to get no help and just get bashed instead? After all IF she is at this point to irresponsible or otherwise unable to have and raise a child, that doesn't change the fact that she is at this point prego. So what she should just have the child anyways, because WE don;t approve of the alternative. What are we religious zealots or something? (another group i think you actually bash pretty often correct?)


Here is where the problem comes in, if it bothers you, because you resemble what I said, then maybe you'll want to make sure the same doesn't happen to your children, aside from that, it should bother every one that this girl is in here looking for a free abortion whether you agree with it or not, and thats what it comes down to.

OK and why should it bother me if this girl wants a free abortion? If the service is out there and she needs it WHY should she not go recieve it? Its not like she asked us to take up a collection and hand it to her now is it? She asked for advice. If the service is there what the hell is wrong with us telling her where its available? But again, I suppose shit talking people who find themselves ina jam is more gratifying and important than helping someone. I guess some people have never made a mistake or found themselves in a jam?

[Zim the Invader]

I'll go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume that this statement was made in an oversimplified attempt to express an general feeling as opposed to you actually believing that. I mean SURELY you are more educated than to believe its as simple as "pulling out". There is usually sperm in precum you know. Hell, if wearing a condom is not fool proof, how would the pull and pray method be?



No, I'd say a lot of posters "are pissed" because some with a problem came here asking for help and advice, and instead of even trying to help, certain people, most notably YOU would rather judge her, belittle and criticize her than try to help someone in need. What if, IF she was just some irresponsible kid who got pregnant on a mistake. What IF all she wanted was an abortion? So it's better for her to get no help and just get bashed instead? After all IF she is at this point to irresponsible or otherwise unable to have and raise a child, that doesn't change the fact that she is at this point prego. So what she should just have the child anyways, because WE don;t approve of the alternative. What are we religious zealots or something? (another group i think you actually bash pretty often correct?)



OK and why should it bother me if this girl wants a free abortion? If the service is out there and she needs it WHY should she not go recieve it? Its not like she asked us to take up a collection and hand it to her now is it? She asked for advice. If the service is there what the hell is wrong with us telling her where its available? But again, I suppose shit talking people who find themselves ina jam is more gratifying and important than helping someone. I guess some people have never made a mistake or found themselves in a jam?

Agreed.

She never said she wants and abortion. She just said she wanted to know where a free clinic was. Could be her BF had unexpected car troubles or there was a family emergency and that's where her reserve savings went. WHO KNOWS! Read what's written, not what you WANT to be written.

*EDIT*
Even if she does want an abortion, I'd prefer she do it there and not back here in the states. "Free" is just another word for "on someone elses dime." So if it's going to be on someone elses dime, I'd prefer it not be on mine.

[Richard Burns]

Personally I wish there wasn't such a stigma attached to abortions so more people would use that option of they need it instead of kids having to suffer in a home where they're not wanted.

[Blues]

*EDIT*
Even if she does want an abortion, I'd prefer she do it there and not back here in the states. "Free" is just another word for "on someone elses dime." So if it's going to be on someone elses dime, I'd prefer it not be on mine.

As opposed to the other government services that the child would be entitled to that you would be paying otherwise????

[Muku]

Personally I wish there wasn't such a stigma attached to abortions so more people would use that option of they need it instead of kids having to suffer in a home where they're not wanted.

Abortions will always have a stigma attached to them as long as there are religions dictating to people on what they should or should not do with their bodies.

After reading through this thread it doesn't surprise me one bit that the OP hasn't come back and responded to anyone's posts.

Assumptions, sanctimonious responses......hmmmm :scratchchin:

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To the OP here, if you are still reading this......

There are no "free clinics" here in Okinawa. You would not need insurance for a check up, however you would have to pay the full amount out of pocket. I know that for a regular hospital visit for a cold or something similar it would run you less than $100.00 or so full price.

You could call the Adventist Medical Center (http://www.adventistdirectory.org/view_Entity.asp?EntityID=10411)in Nishihara at (98) 946-2833 and ask them about costs involved with an exam or what other services you may need. I will say that I am fairly certain though that they will NOT do any abortions unless the life of the mother is in danger. Adventist is well known here for it's OB/GYN services as well.

They have English speaking doctors available.
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[Zim the Invader]

As opposed to the other government services that the child would be entitled to that you would be paying otherwise????

Not what I meant.

If she must get an abortion, I want her to do it there because I'm not paying for it.

If she comes back, I'd pay myself out of pocket so that I'm not paying more later for services rendered post partum.

But, that's all dependent upon an abortion being her drive behind the initial post. Which it very well could be. Leaving in October, she may want to handle that particular bit of business and recover fully prior to going home. What happens in Okinawa stays in Okinawa, as it were.

[amplify]

This whole thread made me wonder where you could get a vascectomy off base where the military won't have their say in whether you should or shouldn't... :scratchchin:

This whole situation could have been avoided completely! :thumbup1:

The military won't let males get a vascectomy unless they're 1) above 25, 2) with 2 kids and at least one on the way, and 3) married. Why? Isn't an 18 year old smart enough to make that decision in life?

[Zim the Invader]

This whole thread made me wonder where you could get a vascectomy off base where the military won't have their say in whether you should or shouldn't... :scratchchin:

This whole situation could have been avoided completely! :thumbup1:

The military won't let males get a vascectomy unless they're 1) above 25, 2) with 2 kids and at least one on the way, and 3) married. Why? Isn't an 18 year old smart enough to make that decision in life?

No, they aren't.

But oddly enough, that's exactly why I think they should be able to get them. If they are so dumb as to think that a vasectomy is the answer to their problems, then I say it's really the answer to ours. If they aren't smart enough to use proper gun control, take their bullets before they shoot somebody.

[amplify]

Back alley vasectomy anyone? :first:

[socalheart]

The military won't let males get a vascectomy...
I think it's more about the military not wanting to pay for a vasectomy at 18 and a reversal at 25 when the man decides that he wants children with the woman of his dreams blahblahblah. They also don't want the man to get some backstreet vasectomy which may put him in the hospital with something really nasty, because it causes the military money. On the other hand, making sure the man has three children means they have three possible recruits in 18 years. It's a circle of life thing. :D

Yes, there are many arguements and debatable bullshnit about this... and it's in another thread here on the forums somewhere... go find it and stop thinking about giving me grief for a sarcastic comment with a hint of truth in it. :p

[amplify]

Yes, there are many arguements and debatable bullshnit about this... and it's in another thread here on the forums somewhere... go find it and stop thinking about giving me grief for a sarcastic comment with a hint of truth in it. :P

By that I mean't they wouldn't give me one and I'm nearing the age that "I would want a reversal" (but wouldn't) and that is how I know the criteria for getting one through the military.

Now I'm in Japan and don't know where to look for myself too. Maybe others would want the same too secretly, I suppose. :scratchchin:

Anyway, this thread was derailed in 4 posts and went far off topic by bashing her instead of getting more information. Even if more information was collected and it was that she wanted an abortion, there would be more bashing to be done anyway and no helping. Sometimes you need to leave your morals aside, because it's none of your business.

[Blues]

Not what I meant.

If she must get an abortion, I want her to do it there because I'm not paying for it.

If she comes back, I'd pay myself out of pocket so that I'm not paying more later for services rendered post partum.

But, that's all dependent upon an abortion being her drive behind the initial post. Which it very well could be. Leaving in October, she may want to handle that particular bit of business and recover fully prior to going home. What happens in Okinawa stays in Okinawa, as it were.

Dude WTF?

You dont want to use your tax dollars to pay for an abortion, but you would specifically pay for one if she intended to keep the kid in the states?

Your statement is so selfish so that only ZIM can have it both ways. Your logic fails....

[Sex Wax]

They shoulda just had buttsecks, then none of this would have happened.

[Zim the Invader]

Dude WTF?

You dont want to use your tax dollars to pay for an abortion, but you would specifically pay for one if she intended to keep the kid in the states?

Your statement is so selfish so that only ZIM can have it both ways. Your logic fails....

So not wanting to be the one who pays the small cost but being willing to do so if it saves me the larger cost is selfish? Sounds like fiscal reasoning to me.

I don't want to pay a cost, but if I have to pay one, I choose the smaller one.

[Richard Burns]

The whole military not letting people get a vasectomy is bullshit. The military just shows how selfish and shitty they at yet again. I wanted one since I was undeer 18. Many doctors won't perform them though. I would have even paid for it myself bu the military still says no. The doctors were saying no too.

Now my wife says no. We already got 2 kids and that's more than enough for me. I'm getting one whether she likes it or not.

[Oxmix]

it should bother every one that this girl is in here looking for a free abortion whether you agree with it or not, and thats what it comes down to.

I didn't read where she said she wanted an abortion. How do you know that is what she wants? WE don't know her health status. She may have underlying health issues such as diabetes or hypertension. As far as we know she she is seeking prenatal care.

Unfortunately she was scared off before we could find out and help her.

Regards

Ox

[Haru-sa]

This whole thread made me wonder where you could get a vascectomy off base where the military won't have their say in whether you should or shouldn't... :scratchchin:

This whole situation could have been avoided completely! :thumbup1:

The military won't let males get a vascectomy unless they're 1) above 25, 2) with 2 kids and at least one on the way, and 3) married. Why? Isn't an 18 year old smart enough to make that decision in life?

I'll do it for free.

[canjap02]

so i just found out im pregnant, i have no insurance. and i am a civilian. my BF is in the airforce and i cant get a flight home til oct. is there anywhere i can go off base, like a free clinic or something?

People relax alittle, she didnt say she is looking to get an abortion, all she is asking for is a little info because she needs it. I sucks to have no health care and it sounds like she just wanting to know what she can do here in okinawa, before she goes home, where it will be easyer for her to find and get what she needs. ( i.e. no lauguage barrier) relax man, and if anone has and GOOD advise please try to help her. Being pregnant isnt the easyest thing in the world for someone to do (either by themselfs or with someone else)