Today's Typhoon

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

What are you gonna do to ride it out?

Stock up on beer n' snacks now kiddies...

[P_chan]

I wish it would have happened on wednesday or thursday!

I've got some beer, and I'll get some food later tonight.

[Muku]

This typhoon is a puppy, I wont be doing anything out of the ordinary, going out and having a few beers, ok I lied, more than a few:thumbup: at my local izakaya.

http://www.tenki.jp/img/him/ni/136400-440001-0000-20070913230000.gif

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/images/zoom/0711-00.png

STS 0711 (Nari)
Issued at 21:40 UTC, 13 September 2007
<Analyses at 13/21 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N24°10'(24.2°)
E129°40'(129.7°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 25km/h(14kt)
Central pressure 980hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 30m/s(55kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 40m/s(80kt)
Area of 50kt winds or more Wide 70km(40NM)
Area of 30kt winds or more NE200km(110NM)
SW180km(95NM)

<Forecast for 14/09 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N25°10'(25.2°)
E127°40'(127.7°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 975hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 30m/s(60kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 45m/s(85kt)
Radius of probability circle 110km(60NM)
Storm warning area Wide 190km(100NM)

<Forecast for 14/21 UTC>
Intensity Strong
Center position of probability circle N26°30'(26.5°)
E126°20'(126.3°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 15km/h(9kt)
Central pressure 970hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 35m/s(65kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 50m/s(95kt)
Radius of probability circle 150km(80NM)
Storm warning area Wide 240km(130NM)

<Forecast for 15/18 UTC>
Intensity Strong
Center position of probability circle N29°30'(29.5°)
E126°10'(126.2°)
Direction and speed of movement N 15km/h(8kt)
Central pressure 970hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 35m/s(65kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 50m/s(95kt)
Radius of probability circle 280km(150NM)
Storm warning area Wide 370km(200NM)

<Forecast for 16/18 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N33°00'(33.0°)
E126°55'(126.9°)
Direction and speed of movement N 15km/h(8kt)
Central pressure 980hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 30m/s(55kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 40m/s(80kt)
Radius of probability circle 410km(220NM)
Storm warning area Wide 480km(260NM)

[Burado]

why does it always seem to screw up weekends? oh well i live off base and all my favorite bars will still be open.

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

http://www.cheunghy.com/shared/tc/?name=NARI
Yup, a just a category 1 typhoon, with windspeeds from 74-95 mph. It all depends on which track it takes. If it goes south of Okinawa Honto and moves up the East China Sea on our left coast, we'll feel little effect other than some very ordinary wind and rain. If it crosses directly over the island, we'll get a little stronger wind and rain. Either way, not a beach weekend.

[Bones]

Let's see. Beer, check, snacks, check, water, check.Mmm, food? Lawson's accross the street. :D

I think we're ready.:old:

[socalheart]

Well, we just heard from the weather guys' guys that this is a fast mover. We're already in TCCOR-1, and expected to go into TCCOR-1E tonight. They'll probably push it to TCCOR-1C right after people get off work. Heh. That way, no one gets off work early or is able to go drinking off base (if they live on base) -- those sneaky bastages. ;) We're tying stuff down and going to Jusco for stuff, like donuts... :D

[atb35]

I let some ppl off work if they needed supplies, had one of them get me supplies too...Rum and Coke. I will be good for a week long typhoon then!

[dk]

"Supplies" lol.

"Hey dude, we need a new shot glass and a deck of cards."

[newvalor]

I can't believe I missing out on this typhoon, 2 weeks til I get back and it has to happen now.

Hey hopefully when it's over it will take whats left with it and get rid of the rainy days finally....

[Tempestuous]

I always hated when you got jipped out of a "party" day.

[Hollarey]

why do typhoons always hit on a weekend? They like to spoil plans dont they. Cant they hit during the week so then hubby can get off work and I can get me a nooner. Come on!!

[Hollarey]

I always hated when you got jipped out of a "party" day.

I know right!!! I was going to have me a drunken Wii night. Still can but it was going to be at a friends house on Foster and hubby doesnt want me away from the house during these storms.

[ryukyuboi]

http://www.typhoon2000.ph/ all in one site


http://www.tenki.jp/rdr/r860_1.html 10 min updates

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

The Typhoon2000 site is good, isn't it.

According to one of the links there, we just made Category 2 (96-110 mph wind-speed).

[Galina]

looove typhoons !

[dk]

So what's this typhoon's name? Urkel?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/2005_0308_urkel.jpg

Gary Coleman?

http://www.shoxty.com/archives/gary-coleman.jpg

Seriously, you call that a typhoon? I probably won't even get the day off work tomorrow...

http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/FE/00Latest.jpg

[DougP]

Should be out of here by tomorrow sometime. Its moving fast and it isn't packin a big punch.

Oh and its name is Nari

The same name as the typhoon that made three passes at us in 2001. More specifically the typhoon that was raging outside on Sept 11th.

You'll notice that year and this year the storms pretty much have the same names. There was a Typhoon Man-Yi in 2001 and a TS Usagi :)

[socalheart]

After following the path of this typhoon and it's intensity online, I'm bummed that it probably won't affect my going to work tomorrow. :( I was hoping to not have to get up in the morning. Well, it's super windy, but very little rain so far. We just had a nice wind ripple through the building making it shudder like an earthquake. Weirdness.

[Muku]

It's still a puppy of a typhoon, even though it has gained some strength.

Either way be safe folks

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

For you typhoon nerds out there, Nari means lily.

[dk]

Fitting name for a typhoon of this size and strength.

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

Close as she's gonna get...

[dawn_gazer]

good morning, everyone! the typhoon seem to have left already:thumbup:!

anyway, would anyone know if the military base gates at foster are open? we're supposed to attend at birthday party at 4pm today. but i wouldn't want to travel all the way from naha city just to be told at the gate(s) that they are closed!

dawn

[OCanadaOurHomeAndNativeLand]

Maybe it will be a beach weekend after all :cool:

Time to recycle some old jokes...

What's the difference between a typhoon and a woman?
None: They come hot and wet and leave with your house and car.

What's the difference between a snowstorm and a man ?
None: You never now how many inches you will get or how long they will last.

[socalheart]

anyway, would anyone know if the military base gates at foster are open?
Yes, all the usual gates should be opened at the bases. Have a good time! :thumbup1:

[Muku]

Down south last night it got a bit windy and rainy but it really wasnt that bad. I was out with friends until a bit after 9:30PM. Buses stopped running at 8 and taxis were scarce so we had to hitch a ride with some friends otherwise we would have stayed later.

Really wasnt bad. Glad it finished in one night though and didnt ruin the weekend.

[socalheart]

I think we stayed in TCCOR-1C most of the night. Nari was definitely more mellow than the last one we had. We took the satellite dish down a bit after 2100, but not much else seemed to have happened way up here. Yay!

[DougP]

Damn we always leave our sat dish up :) We only lost signal last night for about 2 minutes

[dk]

Yeah, I haven't moved my dish ever in the 3 years it's been up.

My signal was off-and-on for a while last night and then I finally gave in and just threw on a movie. :p

[Muku]

I think we stayed in TCCOR-1C most of the night. Nari was definitely more mellow than the last one we had. We took the satellite dish down a bit after 2100, but not much else seemed to have happened way up here. Yay!
I just watched the news and Kume Island got wacked pretty hard by this typhoon. Top recorded wind speed was about 63mps which is roughly 140 mph. There were a number of electric poles that were broken darn near in half and nearly half the island lost power.

Oh and for everyones information here, there is another low pressure system that has popped up just se of Okinawa and is expected to build into a tropical storm by tomorrow around late morning to early afternoon.

It may be similar to Typhoon Nari.

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/images/zooml/b-00.png

<Analyses at 15/09 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
TD
Center position N19°40'(19.7°)
E132°40'(132.7°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW Slowly
Central pressure 998hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 15m/s(30kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 23m/s(45kt)

<Forecast for 16/09 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N22°35'(22.6°)
E129°55'(129.9°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 992hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 20m/s(40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s(60kt)
Radius of probability circle 280km(150NM

[socalheart]

We take our sat. dish down during typhoons. Most everyone in our building does. Personally, we're on the ninth floor facing the ocean sans anything between. The wind from even a small typhoon can whip the tar off the roof here. (not literally. don't know if they use tar on rooves here. heh.)

[P_chan]

We take our sat. dish down during typhoons. Most everyone in our building does. Personally, we're on the ninth floor facing the ocean sans anything between. The wind from even a small typhoon can whip the tar off the roof here. (not literally. don't know if they use tar on rooves here. heh.)

You should have a talk with my neighbors. The douche bags leave their dishes out and anything else they have on their balcony stays there. All I have to worry about is my grill!

[socalheart]

They're lucky. The last big typhoon we had, our neighbors who left sat. dishes up lost them. Those who left things outside, either lost them or had them overturned. Basically, imagine living on the roof of an eight story building. Whoosh!

[P_chan]

yeah I'm on the 5th floor of a 8 story building. A dish like that could seriously hurt someone or damage some property if it got loose.

[DoctorP]

I bring in most everything, for every typhoon. But...last typhoon I left my dish up, and it came tumbling down. I made sure to pull it down this time, even though it was a small typhoon. Only took me 10 minutes to take it down, and 10 to put it back up. I'm online during typhoons anyway...except that we watched Ghost Rider this time.

[DougP]

I guess myself and everyone else in the neiborhood must be on crack. We all keep our dishes up :D

[kilo_four-six]

Here in Florida even a small hurricane is a major problem because all the houses have trussed 2x4 plywood roofs...DUMB. In Okinawa a typhoon is a reason for a party, here it is panic time.

[ja_Patriot]

Being a transplant from South Florida, I know you can't underestimate a hurricane.

Did you know that Katrina started as a weak storm (CAT 1) and directly hit the Doral in Miami, (where Southcom is located), wiped out trees and gardens and caused severe damage to homes? A second storm that same year, Wilma, went in a weird direction from west to east and gave the finishing touches to Katrina's havoc in Dade and Broward countries.

These two relatively "weak" storms directly hit Miami and Fort Lauderdale after nearly 6-7 years of relative calm and with many storms missing the area.

The point is that I experienced a CAT 1 and a CAT 2, both teeny-weeny storms, damage an Andrew-grade (CAT 5) home on one of the Doral Resort's golf course. Which brings us to the main reasons why we're now in Okinawa, my wife (being an Uchinanchu-American) and myself. We were tired of those Caribbean hurricanes.

Dealing with FEMA and ins claims was a nightmare, but the good thing about it was that we were able to fix everything and sell our home right before the market began to tank. So there's always a silver lining somewhere.

BTW, being in Okinawa isn't just a bonus. It's a blessing.

Thanks for reading my first post.

[Muku]

Being a transplant from South Florida, I know you can't underestimate a hurricane.

Did you know that Katrina started as a weak storm (CAT 1) and directly hit the Doral in Miami, (where Southcom is located), wiped out trees and gardens and caused severe damage to homes? A second storm that same year, Wilma, went in a weird direction from west to east and gave the finishing touches to Katrina's havoc in Dade and Broward countries.

These two relatively "weak" storms directly hit Miami and Fort Lauderdale after nearly 6-7 years of relative calm and with many storms missing the area.

The point is that I experienced a CAT 1 and a CAT 2, both teeny-weeny storms, damage an Andrew-grade (CAT 5) home on one of the Doral Resort's golf course. Which brings us to the main reasons why we're now in Okinawa, my wife (being an Uchinanchu-American) and myself. We were tired of those Caribbean hurricanes.

Dealing with FEMA and ins claims was a nightmare, but the good thing about it was that we were able to fix everything and sell our home right before the market began to tank. So there's always a silver lining somewhere.

BTW, being in Okinawa isn't just a bonus. It's a blessing.

Thanks for reading my first post.

Just out of curiosity here why in the heck dont people that live in areas that are prone to hurricanes in the US use concrete to build their homes instead of houses with wood roofs?

It seems illogical to me knowing that I am living in an area that is frequently going to get a storm that people havent finally figured out that wood is not going to stand up in a storm.

[ryukyuboi]

The only answer I have gotten to that same question was the cost of construction - money.

[Muku]

The only answer I have gotten to that same question was the cost of construction - money.
So wood is cheaper to use than concrete?

If it meant that my home was going to be safe and not have to worry about any hurricanes ripping my roof off, and then having to face rebuilding my entire home I think I just might take the plunge and build it with materials strong enough to withstand the winds.

[DoctorP]

I'm sure the Insurance companies would foot the bill after rebuilding the same house 6 times!:rolleyes:

[DoctorP]

After Katrina, there have been many different ideas come forward. Do a search on Popular Mechanics past issues, and you should be able to find some stories on future homes for hurricane zones, they did a really nice story about 6 months after Katrina.

Here is a link discussing concrete in use for hurricane proof homes:

http://architecture.about.com/cs/buildyourhouse/a/concretehomes.htm

It seems as though most companies are trying to go with reinforced steel instead of Concrete. But the roofing systems are more steel reinforced, instead of just 2x4 trusses. I suspect the reason for this is so that the home will last more than 50 years...which is about what concrete is rated at.

[Muku]

I'm sure the Insurance companies would foot the bill after rebuilding the same house 6 times!:rolleyes:

Or the Government, hell if the insurance doesnt cover it the welfare state will.:rolleyes:

[ja_Patriot]

Just out of curiosity here why in the heck dont people that live in areas that are prone to hurricanes in the US use concrete to build their homes instead of houses with wood roofs?

It seems illogical to me knowing that I am living in an area that is frequently going to get a storm that people havent finally figured out that wood is not going to stand up in a storm.


Homes in Miami are essentially Hurricane CAT 5 rated, espec. the newer buildings. That's what I meant by Andrew-grade. CAT 5 Hurricane Andrew hit South Florida in 1992 and caused over $25 billion in damages. Homes are made of concrete, with barrel roof tiles over reinforced base, etc... , much stronger than what you'dl find in Okinawa.

The problem with windstorms in places like Miami is that there are a lot more SFRs (single family residences), open spaces that serve as wind tunnels, and a whole lot more trees, awnings and loose landscaping implements.

So your walls and roofs won't get much damage with sustained winds at 150+ mph except for a few roof tiles flying off.

But anything from your neighbors patio awning, to plants and trees, to landscape lighting can get uprooted and slammed into your windows and storm shutters. All you need is to experience bay windows shattered in your living room by a tree limb in the midst of a hurricane, and then to have a second set of windows crashed by flying debris, to know what 2 hours of hell on earth means.

Then when all's clear and you see the golf course wiped out, all the ficus trees in the entire Miami area flattened (ficus benjamin is a ubiquitous tree in SF) and an uprooted tree jutting out of someone's home, you say, we were lucky.

So CAT 1 & 2 storms won't cause roofs or cars to fly, but a wind gust hitting you the wrong way can cause some serious damage.

[DougP]

You ever looked at the windows around okinawa and wondered why there are bars on a lot of them? Now you know. :)

much stronger than what you'dl find in Okinawa.

Well if you're talking about the bunker style homes that were built a few decades ago I sure hope so :) Then again those old homes have withstood quite a many Typhoons themselves. So that would make them a lot stronger than most homes in Florida. I grew up there and remember Andrew, its nice that Some homes have finally been built that can hold up to a cat 5 storm.
Unfortunately there is a lot of Hurricane prone areas in the US where the homes are way behind the power curve.

[Muku]

I've been through a couple of Cat 5 storms here in Okinawa. Part of the reason the damage here is limited in my opinion, is the closeness of the houses and the partial to full concrete walls that surround many of the properties. Also being an island and having the soil structure that we have here, flooding occurs in low lying areas but really isnt that big of a deal in comparison.




You ever looked at the windows around okinawa and wondered why there are bars on a lot of them?
No......:D I know when I first came here however I was surprised, but learned quickly. The worst thing we really have to worry about here is power outages.

[Fairlady]

yeah that typhoon I would not even call a typhoon compared to the other beast that we had a little while ago with the 170 mph winds

[StreetBiker]

yeah that typhoon I would not even call a typhoon compared to the other beast that we had a little while ago with the 170 mph winds

yeha this last one was a pansy lol:thumbdown:

[Mad Hatter]

Do ya'll think that we are going to get hit by this next one?

[ja_Patriot]

Typhoon No 12 or "Wipha"

Looks like a CAT 3 or 4 headed for Ishigaki /Northern Taiwan on Tuesday.

[P_chan]

I kinda wish it would come here, I want some more days off.

[newvalor]

Hey it needs to hold off for atleast 2 weeks so I can be back to the island. I would like to enjoy some actual rain/wind compared to the dust I've been breathing for the past months.

[socalheart]

Supposedly, Wipha is another small typhoon. It's expected to hit Tuesday and/or Wednesday. According to the satellite images at JTWC (https://metocph.nmci.navy.mil/jtwc.php), this is a fat one moving to the south of the island between Okinawa and Taiwan. Maybe we'll get a lot of rain with this one.

[DoctorP]

What do you mean maybe? Where have you been today? :P

[socalheart]

Heh. Bah, this here rain ain't no big thang y'all. (insert waving pish-posh hand here) This here's just enuf to warsh our patio down. ;)

We didn't get much rain from the last typhoon, so maybe this one will make up for it. :shrug:

[Muku]

Heh. Bah, this here rain ain't no big thang y'all. (insert waving pish-posh hand here) This here's just enuf to warsh our patio down. ;)

We didn't get much rain from the last typhoon, so maybe this one will make up for it. :shrug:

The dams here in Okinawa are at 100%plus right now, we dont "need" any more rain really.

[socalheart]

well, we need to do laundry anyhow today. maybe that'll bring it down a smidge. everyone do your laundry today! :D LOL maybe we'll do laundry AND wash dishes too. hmmm... heh.

[Muku]

well, we need to do laundry anyhow today. maybe that'll bring it down a smidge. everyone do your laundry today! :D LOL maybe we'll do laundry AND wash dishes too. hmmm... heh.

Looks like we are going to get all the rain and no real wind from this typhoon. Damn was hoping for an extra day off tomorrow, good lord I am lazy today!:-|:old:

http://www.tenki.jp/img/him/ni/136400-440001-0000-20070917073000.gif

[socalheart]

Wipha looks like it's pulling cloud coverage from across the equatorial region. That's kind of a cool sat image. Time to put the dog out for its shower! ;)

[DougP]

Wipha looks like it's pulling cloud coverage from across the equatorial region. That's kind of a cool sat image. Time to put the dog out for its shower! ;)

Tako mitai:D

[dawn_gazer]

hi, everyone! what's the latest news about the typhoon? any school cancellation:D:D:D? i'm just sooo lazy to report to work tomorrow...:o:o:o

dawn

[P_chan]

It's going to hit the miyako island area. We might get some winds and rain, but not enough to cancel work and school. Too bad:(

[DougP]

Its on its way to or near Taiwan... the only thing we'll get is a nice breeze. And maybe some more rain.

[Mad Hatter]

You know, I love it when I don't have to work... but the type of work that I do just gets backed up when I can't get to it... and I can't get to it when it rains...

[dk]

Mad Hatter, before I met you, I used to love typhoons. Now, I still do, only I feel sorry for you lol.

[kilo_four-six]

Looks like Iriomote took a direct hit, that's where my ex-wife is from, hope they are ok down there...:(

[bad_karma]

Geez, I missed all the (un)excitement.

I spent an extended weekend (Fri-yesterday) up in Shikoku getting some quality time in with my gf. Was slightly concerned about the possibility of my veranda being trashed upon my return yesterday, but all was well.

Peace,

BK out

[Tempestuous]

We didn't get much rain from the last typhoon, so maybe this one will make up for it. :shrug:

Nari made the news here the first part of the week. She was blamed for almost two dozen deaths (21 I believe), plus injuries & 9 missing people from the report CNN ran on it.
Taiwan had several of their pumps break down from the surging water.

So being Nari was a dud at your end, she gained a little bit as she continued on.

[kilo_four-six]

In case anyone cares, my avatar is a pic of super typhoon Tip, the strongest tropical cyclone ever recorded anywhere, lowest pressure ever, winds were 190+ mph around the eye, I was on Okinawa when it brushed past in 1979, we didn't get the full fury, thank god, in fact I snuck out of Futenma MCAS and headed to BC that night!