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proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 12:01 PM
Just a thought but what do ya'll think about a delivery service for the commissary? Some thing similar to the off base Co-op service, basically you would simply phone/email your food and it would there waiting for you when you get home
Richard Burns
06-23-2009, 12:09 PM
Just a thought but what do ya'll think about a delivery service for the commissary? Some thing similar to the off base Co-op service, basically you would simply phone/email your food and it would there waiting for you when you get home
I don't think this will work. It will either be too expensive that it won't be worth using the service or they won't have enough staff to make it work.
proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 12:16 PM
I don't think this will work. It will either be too expensive that it won't be worth using the service or they won't have enough staff to make it work.
it will be an additional company that makes the deliveries, not DECA. It could work that's not what I'm asking, but rather would anyone use this service should it be offered?
Yes, a lot of people would use this service, I'm sure. Convenience sells.
Good luck making it happen.
proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 12:26 PM
Yes, a lot of people would use this service, I'm sure. Convenience sells.
Good luck making it happen.
anything is possible just takes the right peeps, the right time, and a shit load of luck
anything is possible just takes the right peeps, the right time, and a shit load of luck
I'm still waiting for those right peeps to find the right time to open Hooters out here. All I ever hear is a lot of talk about these awesome business ideas. If you can make this happen, my hat is off to you. Do any of the other base commissaries have delivery services? Anywhere in the world?
DJ Tak
06-23-2009, 12:29 PM
anything is possible just takes the right peeps, the right time, and a shit load of luck
It also takes DECA running it. It would require ID checks to determine eligibility. The possibility of fraud (black market) would never let this idea get off the ground.
proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 12:31 PM
It also takes DECA running it. It would require ID checks to determine eligibility. The possibility of fraud (black market) would never let this idea get off the ground.
don"t create a problem before a problem exists
Rossi46
06-23-2009, 12:31 PM
I personally would never use it, although I do hate the commissary with a passion and try my best to avoid it I just can't see paying a fee to have my groceries delivered to my door.
don"t create a problem before a problem exists
Yeah, don't bother with Risk Analysis. It's more important to just launch this bitch.
proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 12:33 PM
I'm still waiting for those right peeps to find the right time to open Hooters out here. All I ever hear is a lot of talk about these awesome business ideas. If you can make this happen, my hat is off to you. Do any of the other base commissaries have delivery services? Anywhere in the world?
Hooters is a no brain er but you need mad capital to do it and so far I can't seem to find the 500,000 to get it started
I personally would never use it, although I do hate the commissary with a passion and try my best to avoid it I just can't see paying a fee to have my groceries delivered to my door.
I'd use it all the time for sammich meat, cheese, and munchies.
Rossi46
06-23-2009, 12:34 PM
Yeah, don't bother with Risk Analysis. It's more important to just launch this bitch.
Somebody got an “A” in business class
:grin1:
Somebody got an “A” in business class
:grin1:
Somebody likes risk analysis. lol.
*Thumbs pointing at chest*
This guy!
Rossi46
06-23-2009, 12:36 PM
I'd use it all the time for sammich meat, cheese, and munchies.
Don't you have a wife? they love going shopping
Don't you have a wife? they love going shopping
Yeah, but she never gets enough meat and cheese... Or she gets the cheap bologna...
I see what you're saying, though. I do avoid the commissary too, then. :) My wife does most of the shopping.
It also takes DECA running it. It would require ID checks to determine eligibility. The possibility of fraud (black market) would never let this idea get off the ground.
Why would it require ID checks for base-only deliveries?
Off-base, yeah, that'd be a big problem. ID checks would definitely be necessary, and the delivery people probably wouldn't care enough to even properly enforce that. Plus, delivery folks can be bribed pretty easily, I'm sure, without leaving a trail of evidence... So, yeah, off-base deliveries would be a problem waiting to happen. Too much risk, so that'd never go over with the decision makers.
On-base, though, I don't see much of a problem. But I haven't spent that much time thinking this over.
DJ Tak
06-23-2009, 12:52 PM
Why would it require ID checks for base-only deliveries?
Off-base, yeah, that'd be a big problem. ID checks would definitely be necessary, and the delivery people probably wouldn't care enough to even properly enforce that. Plus, delivery folks can be bribed pretty easily, I'm sure, without leaving a trail of evidence... So, yeah, off-base deliveries would be a problem waiting to happen. Too much risk, so that'd never go over with the decision makers.
On-base, though, I don't see much of a problem. But I haven't spent that much time thinking this over.
Once the items leave the comissary, there is no way to ensure it get's delivered to an on base, authorized customer.
proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 12:53 PM
Why would it require ID checks for base-only deliveries?
Off-base, yeah, that'd be a big problem. ID checks would definitely be necessary, and the delivery people probably wouldn't care enough to even properly enforce that. Plus, delivery folks can be bribed pretty easily, I'm sure, without leaving a trail of evidence... So, yeah, off-base deliveries would be a problem waiting to happen. Too much risk, so that'd never go over with the decision makers.
On-base, though, I don't see much of a problem. But I haven't spent that much time thinking this over.
thanks thats why it would be only on base service:grin1:
Once the items leave the comissary, there is no way to ensure it get's delivered to an on base, authorized customer.
There is literally no way? Are you sure about that? How about having the customer sign for it at his place of residence?
Once food has left the commissary, there is no way to ensure that all of it it is delivered to a Y-plate vehicle either.
I doubt this will ever get off the ground, though. I can't seen an independent off-base company being used for this.
TheLastDon
06-23-2009, 12:59 PM
Sounds like an interesting idea. However, one screw up with someone bitching to the "higher ups" and say "bye bye" to your business.
DJ Tak
06-23-2009, 01:07 PM
There is no way around this regulation, as stated in DoD 1330.17-R
C2.3.1. Positive Identification Required. Any individual who seeks to make a purchase from a commissary shall be positively identified as an authorized patron either before entry into the commissary facility or in CONUS, at the point of purchase (at the cash register) at the option of the respective installation or area commander. The prescribed identification media shall be carefully checked to ensure that each individual is entitled to the privileges he or she seeks.
Sounds like an interesting idea. However, one screw up with someone bitching to the "higher ups" and say "bye bye" to your business.
Yeah, it's just too "loose" IMO to actually happen on-base. Many awesome ideas will never happen on-base because of the loss of control or the amount of red-tape you'd have to go through to get a "yes". I had an idea, once, to integrate the websites for each base theater directly with IMDB, which would cut down on staff required to maintain the theater pages and also make for a cool web experience.
Yeah, that idea isn't going to happen, either.
there is no way around this regulation, as stated in dod 1330.17-r
c2.3.1. Positive identification required. Any individual who seeks to make a purchase from a commissary shall be positively identified as an authorized patron either before entry into the commissary facility or in conus, at the point of purchase (at the cash register) at the option of the respective installation or area commander. The prescribed identification media shall be carefully checked to ensure that each individual is entitled to the privileges he or she seeks.
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DJ Tak
06-23-2009, 01:13 PM
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They spelled out (athe the cash register), not i.e, cash register.
DoctorP
06-23-2009, 01:13 PM
Once the items leave the comissary, there is no way to ensure it get's delivered to an on base, authorized customer.
Yeah...kinda like enforcing that whole pizza delivery idea I guess? :-|
Anyway...how about an online ordering service. You place the order online, items are pulled and ready for you when you arrive? Saves time, commissary is less crowded, and the car doesn't even get hot...kinda like drive up, swipe your debit card, they load the car, and you are back home before halftime is over!:thumbup::cool:
They spelled out (athe the cash register), not i.e, cash register.
Is that written in stone somewhere? Are these documents never modified? You are saying "never" and I am saying "highly unlikely." I wonder which is more accurate.
abonifi1
06-23-2009, 01:30 PM
Order or not, How F'in lazy are you that you can't do your own grocery shopping once a week.
Really, do you want a stranger picking out your fresh fruits and vegies?
Richard Burns
06-23-2009, 01:39 PM
Here's an idea that would make the base money. Make the commisarry availible to local residents. In fact open the bases up to everyone. Just if you are not SOFA you sign yourself in at the gate with a valid ID. The commisarry and PX will just charge a reasonable extra fee for non-SOFA. to but things.
Thoughts?
Order or not, How F'in lazy are you that you can't do your own grocery shopping once a week.
Really, do you want a stranger picking out your fresh fruits and vegies?
You've never heard of Coop?
P_chan
06-23-2009, 01:54 PM
Here's an idea that would make the base money. Make the commisarry availible to local residents. In fact open the bases up to everyone. Just if you are not SOFA you sign yourself in at the gate with a valid ID. The commisarry and PX will just charge a reasonable extra fee for non-SOFA. to but things.
Thoughts?
Yeah, screw physical security! Can't wait until all the photographers are even CLOSER to the planes trying to get pictures of them, hindering daily ops in the process. The current FPCON is: "BUM RUSH THE ******* BASE FOR PIZZA AND F15 PICTURES!"
Yeah, screw physical security! Can't wait until all the photographers are even CLOSER to the planes trying to get pictures of them, hindering daily ops in the process. The current FPCON is: "BUM RUSH THE ******* BASE FOR PIZZA AND F15 PICTURES!"
Well, maybe you should just think outside the box! Let's move the PX and Commissary off-base instead! LMAO.
macker
06-23-2009, 02:03 PM
Actually....
What IF the website used the same database as AAFES does..Matches your SSN against the "Authorized user list" ... If the groceries get "misappropriated", you face same penalties as you normally would.
I guess there is no difference in walking into commissary with your ID. Buying up all the rice, then driving out in town and selling it to Higa-san.
As long as it was SOLD to an authorized buyer...
I shall take my 10% of proceeds NOW please!! Or await my lawsuit..I have now labeled this as MY intellectual property!!!
P_chan
06-23-2009, 02:06 PM
Well, maybe you should just think outside the box! Let's move the PX and Commissary off-base instead! LMAO.
But then the base hermits would starve to death! Oh wait, maybe some of those dependopatamus wives would lose some weight? Oh never mind, they still have mainstreet:D
Okiman
06-23-2009, 02:27 PM
Hmmm, I have commissary delivery to my house. I give the list to either my wife or daughter and bam it is there when I get home. Works really great.:thumbup:
Hmmm, I have commissary delivery to my house. I give the list to either my wife or daughter and bam it is there when I get home. Works really great.:thumbup:
I have that too, but it's really expensive. I have to give my entire salary as a down payment.
Okiman
06-23-2009, 02:38 PM
I have that too, but it's really expensive. I have to give my entire salary as a down payment.
Wait, what you mean that the commissary is actually cheaper? I was wondering why our food bill was so high. :D
proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 02:43 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen nothing is imposable it just means no one has figured it out yet
Ladies and Gentlemen nothing is imposable it just means no one has figured it out yet
No, actually, apparently we've all got it pretty much figured out. But if you feel like wasting your time, go right ahead. :)
Prove us all wrong! :D
proudtobnotpc
06-23-2009, 05:37 PM
No, actually, apparently we've all got it pretty much figured out. But if you feel like wasting your time, go right ahead. :)
Prove us all wrong! :D
I'm glad you said that because apparently I'm great at wasting time:D
Son Kokujin
06-23-2009, 05:50 PM
Since I work @ the Commissary, I say that it's a nice idea, but the potential for Black Marketing would shoot up way too high. That and there are too many expenses and liabilities that would be out or the DECA economy...and what about vehicle maintenance, and insurance? Good idea, but it is highly unlikely...
DoctorP
06-23-2009, 05:51 PM
Since I work @ the Commissary, I say that it's a nice idea, but the potential for Black Marketing would shoot up way too high. That and there are too many expenses and liabilities that would be out or the DECA economy...and what about vehicle maintenance, and insurance? Good idea, but it is highly unlikely...
Man the "potential" is all over the place now.
Richard Burns
06-23-2009, 05:56 PM
Even in black marketing the comm and PX still makes money anyway and I highly doubt that black marketing will ever really hurt the base.
Only the beer would be the huge problem.
DoctorP
06-23-2009, 05:57 PM
Even in black marketing the comm and PX still makes money anyway and I highly doubt that black marketing will ever really hurt the base.
Only the beer would be the huge problem.
It's not about hurting the base...it hurts the local economy.
Richard Burns
06-23-2009, 06:08 PM
It's not about hurting the base...it hurts the local economy.
doubt it. It may take a slight hit but there is so much stuff you can't get on base that you have to get from town and things that town doesnt have so it evens itself out.
Saint Borlaug
06-28-2009, 03:28 PM
I'll be your first customer. I'll pay 10% of the bill for the service and I'll promise to be at my house at a particular hour for delivery.
Some issues:
-You will need at least 5 customers to be worth your while
-You will need to transport frozen/refrigerated foods
-You will need to pick good produce, not too ripe, bruised, etc.
-Your customers will need to be forgiving (non-anal), i.e. if you get Skippy instead of JIF.
This is a good idea, b/c my time is worth more than the fee I would pay. Also, an expert shopper could navigate the commissary more efficiently than I could.
Tanimaga
06-28-2009, 04:33 PM
I had an idea, once
I just stopped there.:D
abonifi1
06-28-2009, 06:36 PM
This thread proudly supports at will weight gain of all Dependopotomi.
All actions that may or may not come will instantly cause military wives to gain 100lbs based on the posibility of being able to do less than they already do in the future
Richard Burns
06-28-2009, 07:32 PM
Have you seen some of the dependotami on base?
hell they have a DRIVE through ATM on Kadena...a DRIVE THROUGH ATM:scratchchin:
They have drive through ATMs in the US and Eroupe as well not exclusive to bases. But LOL anyway.
Rossi46
06-28-2009, 07:40 PM
hell they have a DRIVE through ATM on Kadena...a DRIVE THROUGH ATM:scratchchin:
Have you been in the states anytime in the past 15 years or so?
uriel
06-28-2009, 08:01 PM
i remember going to a drive through ATM with my mom about 10 - 15 years ago...
Rossi46
06-28-2009, 08:13 PM
Ahhhhhhhmmmmmm....No i have been here ever since i got out the Military!
Last time i was in the States I was LITERALLY dodging bullets and trying to avoid "rival" neighborhoods"
I know things have gotten cushy in the states but DAMN!
You mean people can't get out of their cars and walk to an ATM??:-|
I understand what you’re saying it’s a fine line between convenience and laziness. Some people see it as a safer option especially at night.
I use them all the time; I'm lazy as hell when I’m off duty, only because I work my ass at work :(
I'm lazy when I’m off duty, because I work my ass off at work :(
I'm with you on that...
Rossi46
06-28-2009, 08:58 PM
Last time i was in the States I was LITERALLY dodging bullets and trying to avoid "rival" neighborhoods"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6OliSRRrGg&feature=related
Next time your back just crip walk your way past the bullets...lol
TheLastDon
06-29-2009, 08:11 AM
Have you seen some of the dependotami on base?
hell they have a DRIVE through ATM on Kadena...a DRIVE THROUGH ATM:scratchchin:
And before ATMs they had drive up tellers too. They still have them but not as much. :)
hankypanky
06-29-2009, 08:25 AM
Eventually people will evolve to be born with a car seat attached to their ass!
DoctorP
06-29-2009, 08:59 AM
And before ATMs they had drive up tellers too. They still have them but not as much. :)
You old fart!:D
DoctorP
06-29-2009, 08:59 AM
Eventually people will evolve to be born with a car seat attached to their ass!
I've seen some women at the BX that look like that already!:scared::ohmy:
TheLastDon
06-29-2009, 09:16 AM
You old fart!:D
When your a little kid those pneumatic tube things are mesmerizing, well for me at least.
Plus I would get a dumdum lollipop.
abonifi1
06-29-2009, 09:30 AM
I've seen some women at the BX that look like that already!:scared::ohmy:
Doc, I think there called rear side air bags.
SpaceGhost
06-29-2009, 09:40 AM
don"t create a problem before a problem exists
the problem already exists.. have you been to the commissary/px/shoppette lately
RenaissanceMan
06-29-2009, 11:31 PM
Great idea, expensive on gas and car, and the undercover investigators would follow you around trying to catch you blackmarketing. However, a business plan is necessary for all businesses, or you are just a hustler. Business plan at least gives your ship a direction of travel so you can adjust instead of whirlpooling in the middle of the sea somewhere.
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