work overtime for free?

[tim duncan]

for the hourly employees...do you work overtime for free....have found that japanese/ hawaii people do this all the time....

do you feel like you want to cut your employer some slack....?

do you feel like working for free helps your standing in the company?

[gtlm2000]

I hate it. When I'm busy, I have overtime work for 2 or 3 hours.
If it become free for it, I's worst!!

[Carl]

I did it a few times at my old company, but if it ever went over 1 hour I filled out an overtime request sheet. I quit shortly after they started flat out denying my overtime requests (which had to be submitted after overtime was worked). The clock automatically stopped at 5pm so if I worked until 7, that's 2 hours I didn't get paid.

[dk]

I did it a few times at my old company, but if it ever went over 1 hour I filled out an overtime request sheet. I quit shortly after they started flat out denying my overtime requests (which had to be submitted after overtime was worked). The clock automatically stopped at 5pm so if I worked until 7, that's 2 hours I didn't get paid.

Sunny-net used to make us show up an hour early once a week for a weekly staff meeting. I bet they probably still do that.

[socalheart]

Do you mean that you work over time for free in that you don't even get your hourly pay? or that you don't get paid time and a half?

I've worked at companies both here and in the states that didn't pay time and a half for working after scheduled hours. It was usually not too often though, and employees who did so were usually compensated in other ways, such as being bought dinner afterward.

[Richard Burns]

I worked over time everday in the military for the entire lenth of my contract but I guess that don't count since you sign a contract that you are at the needs to uncle Sam but **** it sucks when you watch the whole base off work at 1600 and you're stuck at work tip 0300 and still have PT in 2 hours.


Then I worked for this one guy and I put my heart and soul into his business stated late and showed up early all for free cuz he seemed like an honorable guy but turned out to be a manipulative scam artist.

My job now there are rare times I will work over time for free but it's fine cuz I make decent money and I love what I do and feel I'm making a difference.

[dk]

Then I worked for this one guy and I put my heart and soul into his business stated late and showed up early all for free cuz he seemed like an honorable guy but turned out to be a manipulative scam artist.
This is why it is never a good idea to go to work for a guy who offers you a low--or no--salary with the promise of, "the better we do, the better you will do."

If his business can't afford to pay you what you're worth, his business isn't ready to expand, period.

[abonifi1]

I've been Salary ever since I left the Military, Salary guys always work for free, hourly guys have it much better.

Granted I will make more, but the ridiculous expectations placed on Salary guys, particularly in the Engineering field, do not always compensate for hourly wage and overtime.

[Carl]

I'm salary, but I can still get overtime as long as it is preapproved at least a week in advance. I usually just get comp-time though.

[Rossi46]

It could greatly benefit your career to pull some OT on your dime. Think about the message it sends to senior leadership about your dedication to the company. I would do it, but not all the time and if I ever thought it was going unnoticed I would stop.

[mikersoft]

It could greatly benefit your career to pull some OT on your dime. Think about the message it sends to senior leadership about your dedication to the company. I would do it, but not all the time and if I ever thought it was going unnoticed I would stop.

^^ While it's certainly a good attitude to have, in reality business is business and company loyalty is rarely a two-way street. In particular, this is seems to be the case with larger companies. When it comes time to cut costs, senior leadership couldn't care less how much a particular member the rank & file sacrificed themselves for the good of the company. This is evident by countless rounds of layoffs & failed big companies where most employees got short-changed and the top execs walked away with multi-million dollar "golden parachutes".

While I certainly don't advocate that anyone short-change their employer, I do recommend caution when it comes to company loyalty and excessive hours. Do your job well, but don't be a slave to the company.. If they're serious about keeping talented employees around you'll be fine.

Keeping the "business is business" mentality at the employee level is a good way to look at it. They pay you to do a job.. If you do it well, they'll want to keep paying you for your skills. It's just "business" after all. However, if you start giving them too much for free, they'll walk all over you and still won't hesitate to kick you to the curb when it suits the company's bottom line.

-Mike

[Rossi46]

I agree 100%, but that little bit of extra effort should separate you from the average Joe blow employee and could pay off big when it comes time for promotions or even layoff's. It also could all be done for nothing, it all depends on who you work for and how good you know the system. I think work ethic still carries a lot of weight in today's job market and it's better to play it safe, but avoid getting run over

[Tanimaga]

I've learned the hard way that busting ass and donating personal time to work will do nothing but get kudos to the people that are expendable. Too many times I've been on the "What they don't know, wont bother them" side of the workplace.

Case in point, years ago, my off days rotated randomly.. Most of my off days coincided with holidays. Little did I know I was supposed to get another day off in that case. 4 years I worked that schedule until I found out different. Boss said.. "well, you didn't know, so no harm done."

No way I'm ever going to be a martyr for any job unless I'm running it.

[dk]

I agree 100%, but that little bit of extra effort should separate you from the average Joe blow employee and could pay off big when it comes time for promotions or even layoff's. It also could all be done for nothing, it all depends on who you work for and how good you know the system. I think work ethic still carries a lot of weight in today's job market and it's better to play it safe, but avoid getting run over

Promotions on Okinawa? You must work on-base. lol.

[dk]

No way I'm ever going to be a martyr for any job unless I'm running it.

Goddamn right. I learned this shit early, thank god... Or whoever. lol.

[Richard Burns]

Goddamn right. I learned this shit early, thank
FireHeadgodDude

There I fixed it for ya dk.

[dk]

Fireheadgoddude does not exist!

[Saint Borlaug]

I believe 90% of work is done in 20 hours. The rest is lost by inefficiency, goofing off, or sluggishness.

In an ideal world the only time overtime is justified is when you are new to the job and have to fix the mess the last smuck left you.

[Richard Burns]

I believe 90% of work is done in 20 hours. The rest is lost by inefficiency, goofing off, or sluggishness.

In an ideal world the only time overtime is justified is when you are new to the job and have to fix the mess the last smuck left you.

all depends on the job.

[Sex Wax]

Fireheadgoddude does not exist!

O ye, of little faith. Fire Head God Dude believes in you. Keep on Grill'n.