New NFL Season starts Friday AM...Discuss the season Here!

[DoctorP]

Discuss weekly matchups, results, etc...here!

Who do you guys/gals think will make an impact as a rookie this year?

I think Jacoby Jones of the Texans will be BIG at WR. He has Shaub to get the ball to him, and he was looking good in the preseason!

[P_chan]

Go bears!!!

[atb35]

I love football, but being here, for whatever reason, i just cant get into it. I honestly dont care about it, when Im in the states I look forward to watching the games on Sunday....here it is just another day...I cant wait to see Sportscenter, but that is about it.

[P_chan]

I love football, but being here, for whatever reason, i just cant get into it. I honestly dont care about it, when Im in the states I look forward to watching the games on Sunday....here it is just another day...I cant wait to see Sportscenter, but that is about it.

Totally agree with you there, I've totally lost all urge to follow my favorite teams while I'm here. I think the cubs are number one in their division, but I didn't know that until about two weeks ago.

[bad_karma]

Ask and ye shall receive...

I hope that Green Bay's "running back by committee" situation works out in what could very well be Brett Favre's last go-round. The Packer D will keep them in most games this year.

Super Bowl pick: New Orleans Saints vs. San Dieg.....no, New Engl...wait, San D, damn....one of those two. I'll go ahead and say the Patriots, only because they always seem to be in the thick of things in the AFC, and I'm not sure SD's new coaching staff can get them there in the first year.

Super Bowl champs: Saints

[Fonze]

My team is Oakland and I expected a better year than last, but the hold out by Jamarcuss I don't even know what will happen.

[DoctorP]

NO should be there again this year...Chicago will falter because of the QB. SD can't get there...the new coach is gonna throw things off. Indy can't repeat, I believe NE will make it. Coach is too good, Brady is a GOD, and too many good supporting players.

[Muku]

I have been a cheesehead since before it was fashionable to say so. I love my Packers but just dont see how they could do better than 8-8 or 9-7 at best.

If they do better and make the playoffs I will truly be surprised and happy as a pig in shit.

Bears look good for the Central but I wonder if this year Detroit might be able to pull something out of it's ass. They have some of the best receivers in football. Now they just need a decent QB.

Side note; I wonder how Joey Harrington is going to do in Atlanta as well. Fresh start, little or no expectations, no pressure to perform. Atlanta could make noise I think, maybe not enough to matter but on any given Sunday, ya never know.

Indy has to be the "popular" pick, along with NE.

I agree about NO and SD.

How about college football?

Any Michigan fans out there:eek::eek::D:D Way to go last Saturday, who would have thought, tanking their season on the very first game against Appalachian State? :thumbup::thumbup: Way to go!

I am also a Badger Fan, love Camp Randall on a Sat in November, particulary the 5th quarter and partying on State Street in Mad Town.

[bad_karma]

"Jump Around!"

Uchinamuku: Have you you-tubed any of the awesome videos taken from the stands between the third and fourth quarters at Camp Randall?

Bucky Badgers 1-0. I think they may be in the hunt this year.

Peace,

BK out

[Muku]

"Jump Around!"

Uchinamuku: Have you you-tubed any of the awesome videos taken from the stands between the third and fourth quarters at Camp Randall?

Bucky Badgers 1-0. I think they may be in the hunt this year.

Peace,

BK out


I have the links somewhere.....unfortunately not here at work.

Being there is awesome. If I remember right, Camp Randall was voted as one of the top ten places to watch a football game in the US.

Cheers!

[Fonze]

NO is tanking. Indy looks sharp.

[DoctorP]

Marion Barber III is a horse! This guy is a load!

I also enjoyed watching Turner (SD) run over a couple of guys at the end of the game!

[DoctorP]

Any games stand out to you? I loved the Dallas/NY game today. My hat is off to the NYG! They lost a lot of key players and still hung in there!

[socalheart]

don't know much about football, but i know the dallas cowboys won today! yay! :w00t:

[Fonze]

Rookie of the year is adrian peterson of the Vikings.
My Raiders suck balls I knew they should've took Brady Quinn.

[Fonze]

does anyone have the secret code for this weeks NFL challenge from oconus?

[DoctorP]

I'll give it to ya later tonight Fonze

[DoctorP]

B9S2US

anytime you need it, send a blank email to nflcode@oconus.com and you will get that weeks code in a reply.

DocP

[Fonze]

Thanks for the link. by the way whats your score and rank?. I was doing good until this last week, I got like 4 games right and they were the low points too.

[DoctorP]

I'm ranked 685, and I only have 490 pts. The Chargers are just killing me. I keep betting decent point amounts on them knowing that they should win...then they let me down!

[DoctorP]

What's your toughest game to call this week? I'm having trouble with Bucs/Panthers. I'm leaning towards the Panthers at home, but Carr will be starting at QB...that makes me weary!

[Muku]

What's your toughest game to call this week? I'm having trouble with Bucs/Panthers. I'm leaning towards the Panthers at home, but Carr will be starting at QB...that makes me weary!

Tampa's defense is looking pretty strong too, but home field is big. Heck imo that is one of the reasons GB beat SanDiego.

Tough call to make.

[Fonze]

What's your toughest game to call this week? I'm having trouble with Bucs/Panthers. I'm leaning towards the Panthers at home, but Carr will be starting at QB...that makes me weary!

My toughest is Eagles/Giants I have not decided yet because they both want it and I think they're both shakey. Bucs/Panthers i'd go with Bucs I think Garcia got his groove going.

[DoctorP]

Yeah, but all Carr has to do is lob a wounded duck of a pass and Smith will score a TD...I still think this is a hard one.

I don't think the Giants secondary can close down the Eagles receivers...esp Curtis!

[Fonze]

I'm ranked 685, and I only have 490 pts. The Chargers are just killing me. I keep betting decent point amounts on them knowing that they should win...then they let me down!

I'm ranked 907 with 420 points. I'm hoping for a much better week thi time.
Do you expect any of the 0-3 teams to come up big or do you think their season is lost? (Bills, Dolphins, Rams, Falcons, Saints).

[Fonze]

What do think about Lienhart being benched by Arizona and Warner playing? Do you still think Lienhart is got rookiesh jitters or he's just not cutting it?

[DoctorP]

I think the Saints have the best chance to turn it around...but they are in a funk right now. Lienert will start again this week...they were talking about doing a rotation thing with the two of them. Warner is not healthy enough to play every week, but he could come in for a few series to spread the field a bit.

[Fonze]

You think even without Mccalister (something like that) the saints can turn it around?

[Muku]

You think even without Mccalister (something like that) the saints can turn it around?
Right now they dont seem to be playing well together, whether or not they have McCallister in the lineup or not they have the pieces to be a good team, right now however I dont seem them having any confidence in themselves and that is a problem.

If they lose this week, all bets are off, tank the season comes to mind.

[DoctorP]

Stecker played well last year, I think he can make the jump. They need two backs in at all times. Bush can not be the main back in the lineup!

[Fonze]

Right now they dont seem to be playing well together, whether or not they have McCallister in the lineup or not they have the pieces to be a good team, right now however I dont seem them having any confidence in themselves and that is a problem.

If they lose this week, all bets are off, tank the season comes to mind.

I completely agree with you here.

[Fonze]

What about the Steelers. Do you think they are for real or that they have had and easy schedule so far?

[DoctorP]

What about the Steelers. Do you think they are for real or that they have had and easy schedule so far?

Both...they are for real...but their schedule has been really easy so far!

They will win 10 games easy this year, unless someone gets hurt!

[Fonze]

Ward isn't playing tommorow but they are playing the Cards.

[DoctorP]

Well the Steelers fell short...they just didn't look right all day!

Did today prove that David Carr was the problem in Houston and not the Oline? That guy had the best receiver in the game today and couldn't get the ball to him!

[Fonze]

1st I picked the Cards so I'm happy then the motherf***ing Chargers dissapoint. I knew they made a mistake with Turner, how can you not have taken Wade Phillips. Thanks DoctorP I also went with the Panthers. j/k

[Muku]

Now that Farve has the record for most TD's the discussion going around today is "Who is the best QB to play the game?"

I would put Farve in the top five and in no particular order along with Montana, Marino, Aikman and Elway.

At the top of my list for QB's that never won the superbowl is Marino. COuld you imagine the number of superbowls he may have won with a defense like the Dallas teams had when Aikman was QB?

In the end however barring injury to either of them Brady and Manning will have to be given consideration as well. However this is also all tempered by the fact that it appears to me at least that the basis being used to judge greatness is pretty much what accomplishments that have managed in this era of pass happy football.

QB's like Staubach, Bradshaw, and Starr should in my opinion be given consideration for leading their teams to glory as well from a different era of football.

Sure the passing game has made it more exciting but I dont think that should take anything away from these guys either, they ran their teams extremely well too, particularly in their era.

Any comments? Who would your choice be for best QB of all time?

[Tempestuous]

Of all time, wow I think that is a hard one there is a lot to consider.
I look forward to watching the discussion

[Fonze]

Now that Farve has the record for most TD's the discussion going around today is "Who is the best QB to play the game?"

I would put Farve in the top five and in no particular order along with Montana, Marino, Aikman and Elway.

At the top of my list for QB's that never won the superbowl is Marino. COuld you imagine the number of superbowls he may have won with a defense like the Dallas teams had when Aikman was QB?

In the end however barring injury to either of them Brady and Manning will have to be given consideration as well. However this is also all tempered by the fact that it appears to me at least that the basis being used to judge greatness is pretty much what accomplishments that have managed in this era of pass happy football.

QB's like Staubach, Bradshaw, and Starr should in my opinion be given consideration for leading their teams to glory as well from a different era of football.

Sure the passing game has made it more exciting but I dont think that should take anything away from these guys either, they ran their teams extremely well too, particularly in their era.

Any comments? Who would your choice be for best QB of all time?

I would agree to the most part but you failed to mention Steve Young.

[Fonze]

Cadillac Williams is out for the season, Do the bucs still have a chance for the postseason? Does Cadillac comeback? Remember he missed a chunk of last year.

[DoctorP]

Did today prove that Houstons problems last year was Carr and not the O-line? I realize that Houston lost, but Shaub played a nice game. Then look at Carr. Best receiver in the game, and he can't get the ball to him! Carr holds the ball too long, that is why he was getting killed in Houston!

Best QB of all time? I think Marino was the best pure passer ever! I think Brady will go down as one of the top 5 if he continues to play 7 or 8 more seasons. (the guy is Mr Cool). If Peyton wins another SB, then he is in my top 5. But I have to rank

Young, Montana, Aikman all had too many weapons...that made them better than they really were. With that said I would have Elway as #1 and Farve as #2 with Marino as #3. Elway was a master at managing a game and keeping his team in the mix.

[Fonze]

I think Carr might have been a little rusty but I didn't get a chance to watch the game. As for the best reciever, NO, maybe top ten but not the best.

[DoctorP]

I think Carr might have been a little rusty but I didn't get a chance to watch the game. As for the best reciever, NO, maybe top ten but not the best.

Carr holds the ball too long.

I think Smith is the best in the game right now. Did you see his touchdown last week? I know Moss, Owens, Boldwin, Ward, and about 15 others are really good...and Owens and Smith might be equal, but if the ball is even close, Smith makes people pay.

[Fonze]

That coud have been Carrs problem, He didn't want to get that bad luck of getting intercepted.

[DoctorP]

A lot of people said the same thing when he was in Houston...I never noticed it there, I just figured the O-line sucked...today I noticed it. He had open receivers and just wouldn't put the ball downfield!

[Tempestuous]

I would agree to the most part but you failed to mention Steve Young.

*goan*
:thumbdown:
He is out of the running!!!!
(He is as big of a Utah hero as Brigham Young/Joseph Smith and for that association, he just losses all his cool points despite how well he may be able to throw a ball)

[DoctorP]

The Giants had 12 sacks against the Eagles yesterday! Strahan became the all time sack leader (since sacks became a stat) Pretty good day!

[Muku]

The Giants had 12 sacks against the Eagles yesterday! Strahan became the all time sack leader (since sacks became a stat) Pretty good day!

He can give Farve credit for letting him get the season record:rolleyes:

[Fonze]

Pats stomp Bengals. Does this pove the Pats are this good or does it prove that the Pats offense "knows" everything the defense is doing.

Bengals with so much talent can't get anything done.

[Muku]

Pats stomp Bengals. Does this pove the Pats are this good or does it prove that the Pats offense "knows" everything the defense is doing.

Bengals with so much talent can't get anything done.
Fonze it's all parity in the NFL, no real strong teams and no real weak ones. Just look at the Jekyl and Hyde Eagles.:rolleyes:

[DoctorP]

One commentator said it best today about the Eagles...without Westbrook in the backfield to run the ball, the Eagles were one dimentional and the Giants were able to tee off on McNabb. When Westbrook is healthy again the Eagles will play much better.

[Fonze]

What are the pats chances of another ring?

[bad_karma]

What are the pats chances of another ring?

Pretty good, I'm thinking...Both them and the Colts look like machines. The game between them in week 9, I believe, should be quite interesting, especially with the reemergence of "Co-Comeback Player of the Year (along with Brett Favre)", Randy Moss.

Peace,

BK out

[Fonze]

What are your thoughts on the Raiders? Do they have a chance at the postseason with the way things look in the AFC west?

[DoctorP]

What are your thoughts on the Raiders? Do they have a chance at the postseason with the way things look in the AFC west?

They are 2-2 now

Let's see...here is the rest of their schedule:

@San Diego = win
KC = win
@ Tennesee = lose
Houston = lose
Chicago = lose
@ Minnesota = win
@ KC = win
Denver = win
@ GB = lose
Indy = lose
@ Jacksonville = win
San Diego = lose

I see them being 8-8 when all is said and done. Much better than last season!

With that said, I still see them winning their division, because all of the teams in there suck this year (unless SD wakes up!). That puts them into the playoffs. If Daunte stays healthy and LaMont Jordan comes back strong...they could win the first game, but I don't see them making a SB or anything.

[Fonze]

2-2 Cardinals at
0-4 Rams

1-3 Falcons at
2-1 Titans

2-2 Panthers at
0-3 Saints

2-2 Browns at
4-0 Patriots

3-1 Lions at
2-1 Redskins

2-1 Jaguars at
2-2 Chiefs

0-4 Dolphins at
2-2 Texans

1-3 Jets at
2-2 Giants

3-1 Seahawks at
3-1 Steelers

3-1 Buccaneers at
4-0 Colts

2-2 Ravens at
2-2 49ers

1-3 Chargers at
2-2 Broncos

1-3 Bears at
4-0 Packers

4-0 Cowboys at
1-3 Bills

What game will be the upset of the week?

I think it will be the falcons over the Titans, but I hope the browns take it to the Pats.

[DoctorP]

Well, I'm cheating since the games already started..but it looks like the Miami/Houston game to me.

[Fonze]

looks like Norv Turner final got his head on right and gave it to the MVP.

[DoctorP]

I'll go on record as saying...Chicago did not win their game...GB lost it! GB should have won that game easily, but the coach has no clue what he is doing! They shut down the offense in the 2nd half and let the Bears climb back into the game.

About San Diego...were they that good today or was Denver just really, really bad?

[ja_Patriot]

Always was a New Jersey Giants fan. From way back when LT, Phil Simms and Otis Anderson were on in the marsh.

But Vince Young and the Titans. I still remember the Longhorns in that Rose Bowl last year. This kid knows how to win.

Tom Brady and the Patriots. Bill Belichick btw was the Tunas offensive coord with the Giants then.

But now in Okinawa, those are distant interests, except come Dec and the playoffs, I guess.


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[DoctorP]

lol...I take off every Monday so that I can watch the games! That is my one true vice in life...I love watching football!


btw...missed 3 games in the NFL challenge this week (saints, lions, and packers) One of my better showings! Damn Saints should have won...but they only cost me 2pts!

[Fonze]

I agree GB lost that and I don't blame the coach I blame Favre. I think he got to confident. As for the Bears they actually looked more confident.

Chargers are that good but will have to see.

[Muku]

I'll go on record as saying...Chicago did not win their game...GB lost it! GB should have won that game easily, but the coach has no clue what he is doing! They shut down the offense in the 2nd half and let the Bears climb back into the game.



I am still PO'd about this game that I can not comment clearly yet. Damn damn damn damn :cursing::cursing:

[Fonze]

You lucky mothers. Dallas that game was lost. At least my nfl challenge points stay high cause I put 14 on you.

[Hollarey]

ahhhh.....the cowboys 5-0 baby!!! Intense game!!! Turned it off in the last 20 seconds because Romo was stressing me the hell out. Didnt think they could score but they surprised me. Found out about 30 minutes ago that they ended up winning after all. 25-24 WOOOHOOO

[Fonze]

overall rank 752 Total points 710. Thanks alot Green Bay.

[DoctorP]

Overall rank 469, 786 points.

[Fonze]

Overall rank 469, 786 points.

Have you had a perfect week yet?

[DoctorP]

Have you had a perfect week yet?

Never...I've been playing since they started this thing, and I think the best I've ever done is missing 3 games.

[Muku]

ahhhh.....the cowboys 5-0 baby!!! Intense game!!! Turned it off in the last 20 seconds because Romo was stressing me the hell out. Didnt think they could score but they surprised me. Found out about 30 minutes ago that they ended up winning after all. 25-24 WOOOHOOO
Wait until November......:army:

[DoctorP]

I watched the "boys" play and damn they were lucky! Romo with 5 picks (should've been 6), TO dropping passes, just a sloppy, sloppy game.

One note about Farve and their loss...The coach changed his play calling in the second half...that is what cost them. Then they lost their starting center. If you watched the final drive closely, many thought that they mismanaged the clock...not so, Farve was signalling for the snap, and the center wasn't looking. Farve had to signal 2-3 times each time to get the snap...not completely his fault for that!

[DocTurtle]

I can't believe that game! It was insane! Most of my friends turned it off after they failed to get the 2 point conversion and didn't hear the news til the next day.

[Fonze]

What will be the upset game of the week?

[Fonze]

I have a cfew 1st is the Rams over the Ravens. 2nd the skins over the Packers. Why cause I believe the Packers exposed major weaknesses. 3rd is the Falcons over the G men and thats just a hunch.

[Fonze]

I got only 3 games correct on my nfl challenge. how sad:(

[Fonze]

WTF. Vinny Testaverde still plays football. What happened to carr.

[DoctorP]

I got only 3 games correct on my nfl challenge. how sad:(

I only missed 4, but they were big misses! I had the Cards, Cowboys and Seahawks, with big points on all three! I lost 4 pts on the Bears...but I really figured that game to go either way.

I know I shouldn't have picked the 'boys to win, but I really figured Romo to bounce back with a really big game...he played well, and they were in the game until the 3rd quarter, but NE is just too damn good!

[DoctorP]

WTF. Vinny Testaverde still plays football. What happened to carr.

Carr hurt his back last week. I had read all week that Vinny had been signed, and would start. Guess he showed that an old man can still play!:eek:

[DoctorP]

How does Garica go 30 of 36 for 278 yards (still 4th qtr) and your team is losing 23 to 7? That is not supposed to happen!

[DocTurtle]

lol, yea, it's a shame. You can have the best QB in the world, but if you don't have an offense to go with it you might as well be throwing to crowd.

[DocTurtle]

So, what do you guys think? Colts or Panthers?
I'm gonna go with the Colts on this one.

[Fonze]

How does Garica go 30 of 36 for 278 yards (still 4th qtr) and your team is losing 23 to 7? That is not supposed to happen!

Ya the bucs f-d me up on the nflchallenge for 6 points. So far only 3 games missed.

[Fonze]

So, what do you guys think? Colts or Panthers?
I'm gonna go with the Colts on this one.

I'm going with the panthers on this one.:ohmy:

[DoctorP]

So, what do you guys think? Colts or Panthers?
I'm gonna go with the Colts on this one.

The colts are playing the jags...not the panthers???

[Fonze]

The colts are playing the jags...not the panthers???

In that case the Jags are gonna mop the flor on the Colts.

[DocTurtle]

oh...that's what I meant :P Thanks for that :D
I still say Colts though :)

[DocTurtle]

Sorry Fonze, but I'm not letting you be my bookie. Colts over Jags 29-7

[Fonze]

I just said that but I picked the colts to win and gave them 13 points on nflchallenge. I was just seeing what someone would say.

[DocTurtle]

Where is this nflchallenge that all you guys are talking about?

[Fonze]

http://oconus.com

It's pretty easy you just pick the winner.

[okiprince07]

Why is Hester unstoppable? a team has 11 players on the field and still cant stop 1 guy? amazing

[Fonze]

Amazing player, horrible offense.

[Fonze]

What a score 3 to 0 lowest scoring in 38 years. miami 0-11.

[DoctorP]

lowest game since '93 right??? lowest monday night game in 38 years.

[Fonze]

lowest game since '93 right??? lowest monday night game in 38 years.

correct. I think that miami could've won but the coach decided to go on it and paid even worse if it would've been blocked.

[TheLastDon]

Amazing player, horrible offense.

Yeah their offense is kinda gross, man. :barf::D

[Tempestuous]

My all time favorite play of last nights game was the last play.....freakin hilarious! I was just shocked and amazed to see such a ridiculous play carried out on an NFL field....and then they ended the play losing yardage they had already picked up.

Hence why Miami shouldn't get to play on Monday nights ;)

[TheLastDon]

Heck Miami used to be prime time. Even last year they beat the undefeated Bears on Monday night.

This year WTF. I miss Marino that guy was fing awesome. Does anybody remember how fast that guy was?

[Fonze]

So Vick got 23 months and he will probably be out in the summer of 2009. Man I cant wait to see him back in action. I wonder who he will play for.




And in related news.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3150783&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
Bobby Petrino abruptly resigned Tuesday as Atlanta Falcons coach after 13 games, and multiple sources told ESPN he is negotiating an agreement to become the new coach at Arkansas.



Petrino and his agent had been talking with the Falcons about his preference to return to the college ranks. He had only left Louisville in January, agreeing to a five-year, $24 million contract to coach the Falcons.

[Asshat]

I don't know much about basketball.

[Fonze]

Nice avatar uminchu. That was me maybe 3 years ago. Oh and vick plays football.

[Asshat]

Nice avatar uminchu. That was me maybe 3 years ago. Oh and vick plays football.

haha! Okay Fonze, now I will change back. I absolutely hate watching sports on TV. I always have. All my friends are really into ball sports though. When they start talking about it, I just tune it out.

(That was me three hours ago) :thumbup1:

[Fonze]

Aren't you at work dude.

[Asshat]

Aren't you at work dude.

I do get lunch you know.

[TheLastDon]

Yeah one of those all day lunches.:thumbup:

[DoctorP]

Do you guys think the Dolphins were right to fire Cam Cameron? I mean he was pretty much handed crap to work with right? Add to that the injuries they had and what did they expect?

Also, the 49'ers decided to keep Nolan another year...and to bring Martz over from Detroit as OC...I think that was a good move for this team.