Marijuana: Legalize or Not.

[Jrocka83]

Legalize Pot? I for one wont pick up the bud. However, in this video the gentlemen made some good points about legalizing pot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv20RHrGglg

[dk]

Hell no. Marijuana is evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM_vLk1I6G4

[Jazz]

Definitely yes. I was just listening to some guy on the radio yesterday who was saying the best policy and greatest victory for the war on drugs would be to legalize them all. If you legalize them, crime would go way down I think. Sure allot of political government types wouldn't be as rich as they are now but oh well. It's all about money......

[Jazz]

Yeah that was the guy, Alan Colmes.

I don't know but I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

There's worse drugs that are legal than the ones that are illegal I think, including alcohol. I probably shouldn't say this but I'm clean, they can test me so, I'd rather smoke bud than get buzz off of alcohol.

[Crazysix]

you must have been listening to Alan Colmes..

i dont agree with him on this subject...

you ever see those moves based on an apocolyptic drug infested future...

i think that is what would happen if drugs were legalized..

at least until the munchies kicked in

[Zim the Invader]

I disagree with legalizing drugs. In fact, I think there are some that are legal now that should be changed. To me, the argument that if we legalize it crime will go down, is just stupid. If we legalize murder and rape crime will go down too, but that doesn't mean it's good. What about the people that steal to pay for the habit? Would it suddenly mean that if it was legal they should be able to steal? Or if it's legal and they can't get it, should there be public subsistence programs to help them get it, like low income housing and food banks?

[cme_red]

I disagree with legalizing drugs. In fact, I think there are some that are legal now that should be changed. To me, the argument that if we legalize it crime will go down, is just stupid. If we legalize murder and rape crime will go down too, but that doesn't mean it's good. What about the people that steal to pay for the habit? Would it suddenly mean that if it was legal they should be able to steal? Or if it's legal and they can't get it, should there be public subsistence programs to help them get it, like low income housing and food banks?

Its true if it is legalized pot the crime wont go down.But all of your other points are darn stupid.No offense bro.Murder,Rape and stealing have nothing to do with it.

Its plausible to make pot legal.It could would be another form of income for struggling states thru taxes.Hell they could tax the hell out of it and people would still buy the crap.

[NotSoAverageWife]

I vote yes....
Now I know plenty of people who smoke weed...hold down a full time job, pay all of their bills, and on time...and are otherwise, law abiding citizens. It can be done and is done every day.

There are also plenty of people who smoke weed and can't do those things...or think their weed comes before their bills...which is just stupid. These are probably the same kinda folks who would do the same with drinking if that was their thing.

[OtisPMerriweather]

I can't be sure, but I could have sworn there is a thread and a poll with this exact same topic....!!

http://www.searchenginehappy.com/images/finger_search_button_world.jpg

The search button...it is your friend...

http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7449&highlight=marijuana

[bli182_2001]

I would say yes and no! Yes because I would be able to actually gain some weight. No the drug dealers would have no job and thats not cool taking away people's jobs. Thats why drug lords probally give to drug free charitys To keep themselves with a jobs, and a higher demand

[boldt33]

Yes, legalize it. There is no way to stop people from growing, distributing, and smoking it. I also know of people who smoke all the time, and they are just as normal and productive as anyone else. I personally have and will never touch drugs, but to each their own. If you think about the time wasted by law enforcement to stop people from smoking pot, the miniscule (sp) charges they are charged with, and the fact that less than a week later, they're back on the streets smoking again, it would save a lot of time and money for the gov't if they just legalized it. I'm not saying that their shouldn't be limits and restrictions, because there definately should, but in my opinion, there's no stopping the use of it, or even cutting down the use of it, so why waste so much money and time trying to do so. I wouldn't say the same for crack, or heroin, or the many other much more harmful and dangerous drugs, but let's face it, you can get over-the-counter cold medicine, which when taken the right way, or mixed with the right thing, is twice as powerful and harmful as pot. The point I would make is that for marijuana, there's no harm to come out of legalizing it.

[boldt33]

Its true if it is legalized pot the crime wont go down.But all of your other points are darn stupid.No offense bro.Murder,Rape and stealing have nothing to do with it.

Its plausible to make pot legal.It could would be another form of income for struggling states thru taxes.Hell they could tax the hell out of it and people would still buy the crap.


I completely agree, If they sold pot in stores like they do cigarettes, they could charge whatever they wanted and it would still fly off the shelves. Cigarettes at $5+ a pack is ridiculous, but people (me being one) still shell it out to buy them. They could charge a ridiculous price with even more ridiculous sales tax, and they couldn't keep the shelves stocked. at least if it was legalized, the states would make the money and could potentially put it to good use, instead of it going to some drug dealer's spending money fund.

[Zim the Invader]

Its true if it is legalized pot the crime wont go down.But all of your other points are darn stupid.No offense bro.Murder,Rape and stealing have nothing to do with it.

Its plausible to make pot legal.It could would be another form of income for struggling states thru taxes.Hell they could tax the hell out of it and people would still buy the crap.

The point I was making is that there is no sense to the "Legalizing it would lower the crime rate" argument. If we legalized rape and murder and theft the crime rate would go down too. Not because the world is a safer place or whatever, but because now the crime isn't a crime. Crime would go down if any illegal act was legalized.

Why would people buy government regulated and taxable pot if they can get it on the down low for base cost? It's not like the government could shut out the street competition. If they could find them to make them pay their weed taxes on the sales, they would be able to find them now and arrest them for selling weed.

Other than the logistical nightmare it would create, there is the economic issue. Yes, it could be taxed. But we already pay plenty in taxes. How about having a fiscally responsible government instead of more taxes? Maybe we should try that. Take the money out of the hands of the greedy and keep it in the hands of the needy.

[Jazz]

Californian's pretty much smoke, buy and sell it legally.

[Jazz]

Nobody got a post in at 4:20

[Jazz]

I truly miss the smell, taste and feeling of that sweet, beautiful herb. Oh well........

[Richard Burns]

I vote yes. Marijuana has so many health benifits that outweigh any side effects. It is LESS harmfull than alcohol and cigarettes combined. It is NOT the "gateway" drug, that is a myth. The only reason it is illegal in the first place is because in the 1930's or so new precription drug companies, alcohol and tobacco companies were and would all loose money and they paid for these so called "studies" and well a lousy summary but you can research it on your own.

I say we legalize it and then reenstate people that got booted from the srevice back to active duty.

Weed makes the world a better place.

[Richard Burns]

I edit my post above actually. Weed should Not be LEGALIZED. We should DECRIMINALIZE it. Same as prostitution. Prostition and weed should be decriminalized. If someon wants to grow shit in their back yard and smoke it or whaever or sell ther OWN body than they should have the RIGHT. Legalizing it will take away comtrol from the people and give the government more control. Decrimnalizing it will give the people control.

Nevada is a good example of what goes wrong when you legalize prostition. It makes the state and the brothels the pimps and takes control away from the people. Decriminalizing it would give people control of their own bodies and lives and is a better route. and for all those that say but STDs. BS. You go to a club and meet a chick buy her a drink go back to her place and ****. You just paid for it. Fall in love and get married and guess what your still paying for it.

Meet at a bar and **** for free = ok
meet and pay directly = crime

makes no sense

smoke a natural plant from the ground that is good for you = crime
smoke cigarette with fibarglass and arsenic = ok

makes no sense

[Richard Burns]

heres anothe kick in the nuts this "war" on drugs has wasted more money, time and has been worse the the GWOT.

Where do you think drugs come from anyway? the GOVERNMENT! they dont just magically appear across the border.

[commando]

Governor asks: What if pot's legal and taxed?As California struggles to find cash, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Tuesday it's time to study whether to legalize and tax marijuana for recreational use.

The Republican governor did not support legalization – and the federal government still bans marijuana use – but advocates hailed the fact that Schwarzenegger endorsed studying a once-taboo political subject.

"Well, I think it's not time for (legalization), but I think it's time for a debate," Schwarzenegger said. "I think all of those ideas of creating extra revenues, I'm always for an open debate on it. And I think we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs, what effect did it have on those countries?"

http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1837124.html

[dk]

Hahahaha, good old California. Always California. :D

[Sex Wax]

Is it legal yet? I wanna get stoned if it is.

[TheLastDon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn52Px_h7_8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.japanupdate.com%2Fforum%2Fsh owthread.php%3Fp%3D214180&feature=player_embedded

[mikersoft]

Some groups have begun using billboards to get their message out...;)

http://members.shaw.ca/psistocker/bill/01.jpg

[canjap02]

Ok I posted this on another thread but it will fix here just as well.

Its just pot its not ****in crack or herion, but the people here think its the same. I was a police officer in Vancouver for 5 years, haveing to deal with pot is just a pain in the ass and a waste or resourses. there was more important people to deal with, the hard drug dealers and the murders etc. In a country were you can drink the same amount of booze a small sports team can , and then go walking down the street (with another drink in your hand) , hell you can stop and talk with a cop here (well your shitfaced) and NOONE cares. Smoke a J and vegg out watching reruns. thats not going to behurting anyone. If you have enought pot that you are not smoking it yourself ( i.e. trafficing) sure bust em,but if its just some guy/girl token up and relaxing, leave them be.


Legalize it control it and the problem will be over.

[dk]

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
Some call it tampee
Some call it the weed
Some call it Marijuana
Some of them call it Ganja
Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
Singer smoke it
And players of instruments too
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
That's the best thing you can do
Doctors smoke it
Nurses smoke it
Judges smoke it
Even the lawyers too
Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
It's good for the flu
It's good for asthma
Good for tuberculosis
Even umara composis
Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
Bird eat it
And they leave it
Fowls eat it
Goats love to play with it