Web Design Teacher Wanted

[Mad Hatter]

I'm looking for a very gifted web design teacher. Someone that can tech me the fundamentals and the cool features of today's most wicked websites.

I'm not looking to learn about the history of this that and the other... I just want to know how to manage the grapics, basic layout fundmentals, flash, dreamweaver and photoshop.

Best part, I'm willing to pay for the right teacher. I want to start a couple project very shortly, so I want to learn quickly.

But if you know of some free ways (other than online demos and books), please pm me. I just want to learn some cool web design... tricks of the trade.:scratchchin:

[dk]

Lol... you know where I live, fool.

But if you know of some free ways (other than online demos and books), please pm me.
Come on man, that's the only way to learn. This right here tells me that you're not really interested in learning at all. You want someone to say, "hey, do this, then you'll have a great website" and it just doesn't work that way. Seriously. Fine, here's the most effective way. Get your MCSD. It's not free, but you'll learn a lot hella fast. Get Stan to pay for it. That's what I'll be working on soon. Of course, that's going to take A LOT of effort.

Or take an online class? I'm sure you've already heard enough of what you should be using from the time we worked together. New advice: don't bother with Dreamweaver. Get Microsoft Expressions Web Developer. It's free.

Talk to me after you've a) come up with some real questions that show you are genuinely interested in learning this stuff, b) have spent some time googling this stuff yet still have questions, etc. What exactly are you looking for? The most useful website for learning? Google. That's the answer. Technologies? Silverlight and .NET/AJAX. Go ahead and learn Flash if you feel so inclined. What do I know?

Not trying to piss in your cheerios, just what I quoted you on above is about the laziest thing I've heard many times from many individuals with a so-called interest in learning ANYTHING. If you're not interested in reading or researching a topic, you're not genuinely interested in learning it at all. You're asking for the easy way when there is none. No offense. I'm sure we're still friends. Friends are brutally honest with one another. :p

[hankypanky]

Lol... you know where I live, fool.


Come on man, that's the only way to learn. This right here tells me that you're not really interested in learning at all. You want someone to say, "hey, do this, then you'll have a great website" and it just doesn't work that way. Seriously. Fine, here's the most effective way. Get your MCSD. It's not free, but you'll learn a lot hella fast. Get Stan to pay for it. That's what I'll be working on soon. Of course, that's going to take A LOT of effort.

Or take an online class? I'm sure you've already heard enough of what you should be using from the time we worked together. New advice: don't bother with Dreamweaver. Get Microsoft Expressions Web Developer. It's free.

Talk to me after you've a) come up with some real questions that show you are genuinely interested in learning this stuff, b) have spent some time googling this stuff yet still have questions, etc. What exactly are you looking for? The most useful website for learning? Google. That's the answer. Technologies? Silverlight and .NET/AJAX. Go ahead and learn Flash if you feel so inclined. What do I know?

Not trying to piss in your cheerios, just what I quoted you on above is about the laziest thing I've heard many times from many individuals with a so-called interest in learning ANYTHING. If you're not interested in reading or researching a topic, you're not genuinely interested in learning it at all. You're asking for the easy way when there is none. No offense. I'm sure we're still friends. Friends are brutally honest with one another. :p

Right on DK! This concept of learning is heard i'm sure in all tech fields, Always wants the quick fix or cheap way out, and in the long run will cost em more.

In my business of sound, i get so many people come up to me and say you have the coolest job in the world, playing music. But they wouldn't have the 1st idea of fixing a problem when u have a couple hundred people in the audience and something goes wrong and the all look at YOU! When you have over 100 cables coming from out of the back of your gear and 1 goes wrong.

But then again, the world needs simple people also. Someone has to ask the stupid questions every once in awhile :D

P.S. (Can you build me a free website that farts when u open it!)

[dk]

When you have over 100 cables coming from out of the back of your gear and 1 goes wrong.
Oh man, true that. It's certainly just like this in programming/web development, especially the more technical you get into it. At the very least, your CSS and HTML might not cooperate, or you might screw up your relative links. At the worst, your classes or web services don't cooperate or should-be-automatic tasks decide to break down for some dumb random reason. Without training, how are you going to even begin to know how to debug the problem? You're not. You're going to have to go back and bug the teacher for more info and this time get it right. There is no simple approach. You either learn or you don't learn.
P.S. (Can you build me a free website that farts when u open it!)
I can do that!

[Mad Hatter]

I guess what I'm looking for is someone that has all those things you mentioned above, but can trim the fat and only give me the good stuff. I don't want to pay someone for hours of my time to teach me a concept that I'm not going to use.

I'll look into the the Development kit. Sounds like something up my alley. But this isn't for my job. I see crappy websites everywhere on the Internet now a days. I have a few key features that I want to do... I just don't know how to do them... plus I don't understand the tutorials. Most importantly, I don't want to just make a website... I want to make it badass.

I'm not looking to base my whole life around web design, I just want the real quick down and dirty web tricks. I'm sure that I can find the information on my own, but I would rather pay for a professional that might have alittle time on his hands.

Maybe your right though, it might just be cheaper to pay someone to make my site, ut I would much rather learn how, but thanks anyways.

[Blues]

You can code for the Lynx Web Browser as a start:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Lynx-wikipedia.png/800px-Lynx-wikipedia.png

[dk]

I guess what I'm looking for is someone that has all those things you mentioned above, but can trim the fat and only give me the good stuff. I don't want to pay someone for hours of my time to teach me a concept that I'm not going to use.

I'll look into the the Development kit. Sounds like something up my alley. But this isn't for my job. I see crappy websites everywhere on the Internet now a days. I have a few key features that I want to do... I just don't know how to do them... plus I don't understand the tutorials. Most importantly, I don't want to just make a website... I want to make it badass.

I'm not looking to base my whole life around web design, I just want the real quick down and dirty web tricks. I'm sure that I can find the information on my own, but I would rather pay for a professional that might have alittle time on his hands.

Maybe your right though, it might just be cheaper to pay someone to make my site, ut I would much rather learn how, but thanks anyways.
I'm not saying don't learn. I'm saying it isn't easy. I've devoted the last ten years to getting where I am today with this stuff, and it's still not easy. If you just want to learn HTML, that's easy. But it sounds like you want to go from knowing nothing to knowing all kinds of tricks. You could start out with Listutorial (http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/).

[Sex Wax]

I just get drunk and play around with Dreamweaver. Click and drag website building.

[Mad Hatter]

I'm not saying don't learn. I'm saying it isn't easy. I've devoted the last ten years to getting where I am today with this stuff, and it's still not easy. If you just want to learn HTML, that's easy. But it sounds like you want to go from knowing nothing to knowing all kinds of tricks. You could start out with Listutorial (http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/).

Yeah, but this is what I'm talking about. You have devoted ten years of your life into web development. And your damn good at what you do. I'm not looking for that type of knowledge. I just want the coolest parts or features from those ten years. That's it. It might take me a year to learn from someone that has your skills. And that's all the time that I really want to spend on it. I have other things that I need to do in life. I have other things that I have to learn and build.

I just want to down and dirty of mid level web development. I really would like to learn more on the Art of the design instead of the backend SQL. Don't get me wrong, I know alittle bit. Enough to get me in trouble, but not enough to make it do what I want it to do.

Really though... why hasn't anyone asked me how much yet? I mean this thread was to find a teacher. Payments on a monthly time table. Scheduled classes... that sort of thing.

[Blues]

Oh so you want text AND graphics, well make sure you're Mosaic compatible:

http://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/images/1993_mosaic_browser_large.jpg

[gtlm2000]

dk is good building website teacher :D
I can build website, but I'm not good.

[Tanimaga]

I'm with DK... in the machining field, there's a saying that when you can only use a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Learn about the broader info involving web design, and your able to tackle many more problems than just the basics.

[dk]

Yeah, but this is what I'm talking about. You have devoted ten years of your life into web development. And your damn good at what you do. I'm not looking for that type of knowledge. I just want the coolest parts or features from those ten years. That's it.
The coolest part of those ten years is recursion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion_(computer_science)). And CSS's a:hover. Unfortunately, since recursion requires a bit of programming experience to really understand and be able to use, I'll just show you a:hover real quick.

<style type="text/css">
a{color:#f00}
a:hover{color:#00f}
</style>

<a href="http://www.mywebsite.com">My Website</a>
What that does for you is make it so the link changes from blue to red when you move your mouse over it.

You can also use a:hover and :hover in general to create pure-css dropdown menus. Of course, this part here will require a bit of study.

There is no best part of the past ten years. Everything in a web developers toolkit is completely situational aside from the <a> tag, the <p> tag, the <em> tag, the <ul> <ol> and <li> tags, the <select> tags, form tags, and a few other html tags. This field has matured to the point in the past ten years that it is every bit as complex and important as computer science or even engineering, so the very most I can do for you is teach you the basics. There you go. Now you can make links change colors. That got me pretty excited back in around 2003. If you want to learn the latest greatest, you need to know that web development has become a lot more complicated lately. PHP is nothing anymore. If you're having trouble with PHP and relational databases, I wouldn't even take a swing at any web technology newer than probably four or five years old.

Again, I'm not trying to be offensive, and I am certainly not trying to be sarcastic. Knowing where you are at right now in web development and with everything I've said above, about the best I can give you is a:hover. LINQ is also really cool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LINQ).

[hankypanky]

Didn't know you knew chinese dk? Couldn't understand a thing u were saying. And then again, i was reading it sober. Sexwax, did u understand?:thumbup:

[dk]

MH, won't Shrizza help you? Does he still work with you? Or is he saying the exact same thing I am?

[Sex Wax]

Didn't know you knew chinese dk? Couldn't understand a thing u were saying. And then again, i was reading it sober. Sexwax, did u understand?:thumbup:

Sorta, I just steal stuff though. I cruise around cool websites, and if I see something cool, i'll copy it and the code, then paste it into the html/code view option on Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver is easy. If I learned how to create and maintain a website, anyone can.

[dk]

Heh, I've got some code I bet you can't steal and make work on your website.

[Mad Hatter]

I'm good now... thank you guys.

[abonifi1]

There are 2 things to look at when someone says they want to learn, whether they are asking you to teach them(they want you to give them step by step directions on what to do), or if their opening the source code(they're trying to learn), if their not opening the source code, their not worth the time.

Also what good is a bad ass web-site, if you have no traffic, is it just to say "I have a badass website"?