SOFA crime on Okinawa up in 2008!

[DoctorP]

Oh hell...get ready for the backlash on this one:

Crime attributed to people connected with the U.S. military on Okinawa increased by 11.1 percent in 2008.

According to figures recently released by the Okinawa Prefectural Police, 70 major crimes were linked to people who fall under the U.S.-Japan Status of Forces Agreement — seven more than in 2007.

And the number of SOFA-status personnel arrested jumped from 46 in 2007 to 63 last year, a 37 percent increase.

Okinawa and military officials declined to talk about the increase.




So...70 major crimes in 2008 and 63 in 2007 eh?

The year got off to a poor start, with two rape cases in February that drew international attention and protests on Okinawa.



Which two rape cases are they referring to???...at least name names to refresh everyone's memories. Hadnot was aquitted right?:scratchchin:

Restrictive measures were put into effect for a time by military leaders on the island, including new curfews and restrictions on drinking alcohol off base.

Most of those restrictions have been lifted.



Everyone's favorite word....LOCKDOWN! :thumbdown:


According to the police report, 13 Americans were arrested in seven cases classified as “heinous,” which includes rape, robbery and arson. That was an increase of one case and seven arrests for such serious felonies over 2007.

Besides the rape cases, there was a robbery case in March that involved an Air Force military policeman and four sons of servicemembers who robbed a cab driver in Okinawa City.



Thank Darwin there was that Airman...and those dependants...otherwise I'd hear "Damned MARINES!" :rolleyes:

The only category that saw a decrease in 2008 was thefts. Police arrested 15 people in 14 thefts, compared with 25 individuals and 27 such cases in 2007.



Take your pick I guess...less theft or less rape? :scratchchin: Taste Great...Less filling! :rolleyes:

SOFA-status people accounted for 1.62 percent of all arrests on Okinawa during the year, while they make up 3.28 percent of the island’s population.




:-|

Read the full story here. (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=60757)

[Zanpa]

ロクダウン！:cursing::cursing:

[Son Kokujin]

Oh, Great, just what I need...

[DougP]

oh man.. This could be another one of those years:w00t:

[commando]

Isn't the overall trend downward? A minor blip upward is nothing to worry about if the long term trend has been holding.

[P_chan]

Damn gaijin! Lockdown the base and no more rape!!!!:D:D:D

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/467/norapemofofq2.jpg

[dk]

You rack disiprine.

[P_chan]

You rack disiprine.

Sorry i just couldn't help myself.

[dk]

Sorry i just couldn't help myself.
That's what most of the criminals were probably thinking!

[DougP]

Sofa crime, please make it stop.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/couch.jpg

[Ammoyankee]

Damn gaijin! Lockdown the base and no more rape!!!!:D:D:D

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/467/norapemofofq2.jpg

Yeah, we have to ensure schoolgirl virginity is reserved for JP's and lcoal school teachers!

[EEWNASTY]

we are so bad...by the way welcome to the anniversary of the lockdown...

[P_chan]

Yeah, we have to ensure schoolgirl virginity is reserved for JP's and lcoal school teachers!

Hey.....school girls need coach purses too!:w00t:

[Just John]

Quote:
SOFA-status people accounted for 1.62 percent of all arrests on Okinawa during the year, while they make up 3.28 percent of the island’s population.

If they would focus on that stat, there would be no story. :ohmy:

[dk]

Quote:
SOFA-status people accounted for 1.62 percent of all arrests on Okinawa during the year, while they make up 3.28 percent of the island’s population.

If they would focus on that stat, there would be no story. :ohmy:
Holy crap... That can't be right, can it?

[DoctorP]

Holy crap... That can't be right, can it?

I dunno....I quoted it in my post too.

[Zim the Invader]

And the point is...? Crime, it happens. Yes it sucks, but last I checked Okinawans committed crimes too.

And as far as the "lock-downs help stop or prevent crimes" theory goes, I think it's bullshit. It just keeps it on base. But I would agree with sending dependants back to the states. I don't think people should be able to bring family overseas. Especially in places that don't want them there.

[commando]

Quote:
SOFA-status people accounted for 1.62 percent of all arrests on Okinawa during the year, while they make up 3.28 percent of the island’s population.

If they would focus on that stat, there would be no story. :ohmy:
That sounds right. Most SOFA status peeps live/work on base. Maybe average 16 hours a day there. That's only 8 hours a day to wreak havoc out of the fences. The crime rate should be lower to reflect how much less time they spend among the Okinawa citizens that the local person does.

[P_chan]

Crime, it happens. Yes it sucks, but last I checked Okinawans committed crimes too.

http://caliadar.50megs.com/master_of_the_obvious.jpg

I don't think people should be able to bring family overseas.

I bet you're single:rolleyes:

[EEWNASTY]

I bet you're single:rolleyes:

good call oh yea...LMAO:76::94:

[commando]

You've got to factor in on-base crime with off-base crime to get an overall crime rate for SOFA on Okinawa. For the relatively small number who live off-base or spend a significant amount of time off base, the SOFA crime rate should be close to zero. That it's not is troubling.

[paper_monster]

But I would agree with sending dependants back to the states. I don't think people should be able to bring family overseas. Especially in places that don't want them there.

I disagree. I would think there would be MORE crimes overseas if service members weren't able to have their spouse and children with them. Not to mention more depression, more of the F*%k It attitude, more sex crimes and more divorces. Especially if the some of the tours would still remain up to three or four years long.

[DoctorP]

You've got to factor in on-base crime with off-base crime to get an overall crime rate for SOFA on Okinawa. For the relatively small number who live off-base or spend a significant amount of time off base, the SOFA crime rate should be close to zero. That it's not is troubling.

This sounds a lot like what two of our previous posters here used to say. :scratchchin:

[TheLastDon]

This sounds a lot like what two of our previous posters here used to say. :scratchchin:

You too, feeling some dejavu?:scratchchin:

[Sex Wax]

I was drunk in public and pee'd on someones wall the other night. Add me to the stats.

[commando]

I was drunk in public and pee'd on someones wall the other night. Add me to the stats.
It must have been your pic the security cam grabbed.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6373/pee2cv1.jpg

[EEWNASTY]

I was drunk in public and pee'd on someones wall the other night. Add me to the stats.

who hasn't?

[Sex Wax]

It must have been your pic the security cam grabbed.


Here's a pic of you from your last house party:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/AshMiller1972/commando.jpg

[commando]

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,170085-3,00.html
The military establishment knew it couldn't plunk a herd of young men in a foreign locale and expect them to act like saints. Yasutaka Oshiro, a sociology professor at Okinawa International University, has researched the history of the entertainment districts around the U.S. bases. "The zones were created by U.S. officials following World War II," he says, "to counter the problem of U.S. troops raping local women with abandon." Poor, unmarried local girls were corralled into prostitution. The sex market in a town called Koza outside the gates of Kadena Air Force Base roared during the Vietnam War, when thousands of troops bivouacked in Okinawa on their way to and from the war zone. The trade has simmered down, but new arrivals on base are still initiated at a Koza bar featuring live sex on stage and another in which an old hag shoots a banana out of her vagina.

[TheLastDon]

I got's me a new name but I sing the same old song......lalalalalalala

[commando]

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0704/S00194.htm
Armies are made up of largely of young men in their physical prime. Just when they should be enjoying relations with the female gender, dating and making out, in short, leading a normal life, getting married and starting families, they are inducted into the service where, for many, sexual activity comes to a screeching halt. Many heterosexual soldiers have their first homosexual experience in the military, not because they are gay but because it is, at the moment, to their way of thinking, better than nothing. This is also true of prisoners, a warden once told me, and regimented barracks life is a form of prison. In civilian life, a young man gets to meet young women in his community, create friendships, and develop healthy, meaningful relationships. The military career, though, typically reverses the normal processes of social interaction. Soldiers are commonly trained far from their homes, parted from their "girls" and wives, receive few passes off base during the first months of training, have scant time or opportunity to meet women, and then are uprooted to a new base for advanced training. Once trained in the military arts, they are sent abroad to places like Afghanistan and Iraq where they don't speak the language of the civilians and opportunities for the development of normal, loving relationships with the opposite sex are virtually nonexistent.

Young men in a state of sexual arousal with no normal outlet are more prone to commit the crime of rape. Authorities on human sexuality point out males have higher sex drives than females and there are some men who are aroused sexually when brutality is involved. Women are not the only victims. Rape debases both parties to the act. Men don't enter the military as rapists but after leading abnormal lives largely denied sexual opportunities with women, they may become rapists. An Internet search will turn up countless stories of armies of all nations that commit rape. It's not just U.S. soldiers in Iraq that rape. It is soldiers from every army in the world today, and probably of every army that ever was, that rape. Rape is an ugly byproduct of militarism. Putting weapons in the hands of sex-starved young males gives them infinitely more power over women than if they attempted to rape in civilian life without them. What's more, faced with the prospect they can be killed at any time, fighting men may feel entitled to "get some" before they get knocked off. It's just harder for soldiers to exercise restraint than it is for men in civilian life.

And not just Iraqi women. U.S. women soldiers serving in Iraq by one account have been told not to go to the latrine or take a shower alone, and some carry knives to protect themselves from their male soldier "buddies." Reuters reported last February 27 that 70 percent of 284 American women who served in the military suffering post-traumatic stress "said they had suffered sexual trauma in the military." And in "Home Front: the Government's War on Soldiers"(Clarity Press) author Rick Anderson cites a Department of Defense study of 556 women soldiers that found 30 percent of them were either raped or subjected to rape attempts.

Prizing their warriors, generals are apt to look the other way when rapes occur and, when rapes cannot be ignored, mete out light penalties for rapists. A Denver Post study found twice as many accused Army sex offenders receive administrative punishment as are court-martialed. "The military system is like a get-out-of-jail-free card," the paper quotes a Colorado Springs rape victim counselor as saying. Adds social anthropologist Catherine Lutz of the University of North Carolina, the military has a big investment in its soldiers, especially elite units like Special Forces. "That makes them very reluctant to take any action, knowing that the military would have to shrink quite a bit if they got rid of all the known abusers," she told reporter Anderson.

Men are more prone to rape when social inhibitions against aggressive conduct are loosened by alcohol and/or drugs, and there have always been plenty of opportunities for U.S. soldiers to obtain these. Because of the terrible actions they must perform, many soldiers prefer to fight zonked out, and some officers permit it, rationalizing, "anything that helps…" Viet Nam veterans told me it was mentally easier for them to fight and to detach themselves from the horrors of the battlefield when they were high. One stimulant, marijuana, is also believed to have aphrodisiacal powers. Add it all up --- sexual heat and extended frustration in young males, combined with booze and drugs, the possibility of imminent death, weapons in their hands, and the prospect their crime will not be reported, and the result is rape. This is not written to rationalize it, only to attempt to understand why rape invariably follows an army the way a vulture hovers over a highway. Its existence is one more good reason to eliminate the scourge of war and the military machines that make them.

[Bones]

And not just Iraqi women. U.S. women soldiers serving in Iraq by one account have been told not to go to the latrine or take a shower alone, and some carry knives to protect themselves from their male soldier "buddies." Reuters reported last February 27 that 70 percent of 284 American women who served in the military suffering post-traumatic stress "said they had suffered sexual trauma in the military." And in "Home Front: the Government's War on Soldiers"(Clarity Press) author Rick Anderson cites a Department of Defense study of 556 women soldiers that found 30 percent of them were either raped or subjected to rape attempts.

During Desert Storm, the women who claimed to have been "Raped" were either not paid their rations, or willingly went out in search of a willing mate.

The most attractive people which they sought out, were attached to a service other than theirs.:thumbdown:

[TheLastDon]

AND, don't forget the girls that "sell" themselves. Whoops what?!?

[don_barok]

Quote: police arrested five in 20 cases categorized as "intellectual crimes,"

>these could have done by the elite moderators and administrator.

Qoute: The only category that saw a decrease in 2008 was thefts.

>big whoops, think they missed the PX/BX's security vids. bigger whoops,. yeah i know it doesn't count. LMAO!

[AnUnknownSource]

http://www.dprkstudies.org/documents/asia015.html

[DougP]

Quote: police arrested five in 20 cases categorized as "intellectual crimes,"

>these could have done by the elite moderators and administrator.

Qoute: The only category that saw a decrease in 2008 was thefts.

>big whoops, think they missed the PX/BX's security vids. bigger whoops,. yeah i know it doesn't count. LMAO!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DougGTR32/wtf.jpg

[TheLastDon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DougGTR32/wtf.jpg
LMAO, like I said before......


??????

http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/english-do-you-speak-it-demotivational-poster.jpg

[Tanimaga]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DougGTR32/wtf.jpg

Theres no triple "Thanks" tab..

ThanksThanksThanks..

[TheLastDon]

Theres no triple "Thanks" tab..

ThanksThanksThanks..

I know, right, I'm still laughing my ass off!:thumbup:

[P_chan]

but new arrivals on base are still initiated at a Koza bar featuring live sex on stage and another in which an old hag shoots a banana out of her vagina.Right....live sex on stage? We all know that Mrs. Swan puts bananas up her snatch but I've never heard of live sex on stage in okinawa when I was there. Sorry, gonna raise my BS flag.

[DoctorP]

Right....live sex on stage? We all know that Mrs. Swan puts bananas up her snatch but I've never heard of live sex on stage in okinawa when I was there. Sorry, gonna raise my BS flag.

That wasn't at Koza...this is a case of someone running their facts together. Not that it didn't/doesn't happen...just didn't happen there, at least not in the last 15 years.

[paper_monster]

but new arrivals on base are still initiated at a Koza bar featuring live sex on stage and another in which an old hag shoots a banana out of her vagina

I don't have respect for Times Magazine anymore if they speak like this in their articles. :ohmy: wow...

[EEWNASTY]

I don't have respect for Times Magazine anymore if they speak like this in their articles. :ohmy: wow...

you havent seen her

[paper_monster]

you havent seen her

haha!! Nor do I think I want to. :barf:

[EEWNASTY]

haha!! Nor do I think I want to. :barf:

good greif she seems like she is at least 90

[EEWNASTY]

got dragged there literally for my bachelor party...i had to threaten people to keep even more unsavory eating of the bananna from happening

[Muku]

That wasn't at Koza...this is a case of someone running their facts together.
Not quite there Doc....for the period in question it was Koza it did not become Okinawa City until around the mid-70's which makes the following statement correct as well.

The sex market in a town called Koza outside the gates of Kadena Air Force Base roared during the Vietnam War,

Plus you should know as well that amongst the local population and many in the military as well the area is still known as Koza, which was a city created by the US Military during the occupation of Okinawa following WWII.

The city was created iirc by merging the Misato and Goeku village areas and some other surrounding land as well I think.

just didn't happen there, at least not in the last 15 years.
BC Street was also known as being a part of Koza as well and that is where the banana shows where for the most part located, although there were others in the Yoshiwara District as well.

The trade has simmered down, but new arrivals on base are still initiated at a Koza bar featuring live sex on stage and another in which an old hag shoots a banana out of her vagina.

[paper_monster]

i had to threaten people to keep even more unsavory eating of the bananna from happening

wait wait, someone has to EAT the banana afterwards?????? buahahahhahahahahahahahahahaah
does one have to PAY for this service??

[Muku]

wait wait, someone has to EAT the banana afterwards?????? buahahahhahahahahahahahahahaah
does one have to PAY for this service??


When you are 18 years old, a drunk Marine, egged on by your buddies.....yeah people still eat the banana.

A dying art I would say.

You should have seen what she could do with a cigarette or a stack of quarters:w00t::scratchchin:

[P_chan]

wait wait, someone has to EAT the banana afterwards?????? buahahahhahahahahahahahahahaah
does one have to PAY for this service??

Just consider it 1,000 yen well invested:D

[EEWNASTY]

When you are 18 years old, a drunk Marine, egged on by your buddies.....yeah people still eat the banana.

A dying art I would say.

You should have seen what she could do with a cigarette or a stack of quarters:w00t::scratchchin:

quarters still happens

[P_chan]

Yeah I was more impressed with the quarters trick. Think about it next time you have some change in your pocket:scared:

[socalheart]

The banana show is next door to the store I work at just off Gate 2 street. They're very nice people who feed the stray cats every night. They never bothered our customers during big sales or auctions. That being said, I will never patron that place. :barf: My husband went there with his buddies though and had a fun time messing with the youngest of their bunch. Since there isn't crazy stuff like that around anymore, this is an old novelty. Especially since it's supposedly the same woman from the 1970s.

For the article to imply that the conditions of the late 1940s through 1960s still exists is poor journalism at best and a serious lack of journalistic integrity. I also think bringing up an eight year old article is irrelevant to the current situation, but no one else seemed to mind.

[Tyru]

Right....live sex on stage? We all know that Mrs. Swan puts bananas up her snatch but I've never heard of live sex on stage in okinawa when I was there. Sorry, gonna raise my BS flag.

raise it all you want...It's called The Stage and it's in Naha. Off-limits now.

[dk]

raise it all you want...It's called The Stage and it's in Naha. Off-limits now.
Yep, P_chan's BS detector fails.

[P_chan]

Sorry guys, never been to the stage. Sorry watching two people do it just doesn't seem like a good time to me. Well.....unless it's two chicks:thumbup:

[Muku]

raise it all you want...It's called The Stage and it's in Naha. Off-limits now.


Not to everyone :grin1: There used to be a place called "The Strip" as well in Naha off Kokusai........ahh the memories.

[I Am Luna]

I think The Stage was always off limits. But that name/buisness was taken down sometime ago and now it is back up with a different name and I believe no Americans are allowed to enter per the staff.
But man, that place was fun/funny as hell.
Some good memories, lol.

[Tyru]

I think The Stage was always off limits. But that name/buisness was taken down sometime ago and now it is back up with a different name and I believe no Americans are allowed to enter per the staff.
But man, that place was fun/funny as hell.
Some good memories, lol.

I went back in '96 or '97. Don't remember if it was off-limits or not but the place was full of G.I's. None of the girls where Japanese, I'm not sure if any where Asian, I think they were from Central/So. America.

[DoctorP]

Not quite there Doc....for the period in question it was Koza it did not become Okinawa City until around the mid-70's which makes the following statement correct as well.



I was speaking of the live sex shows Muku...which (AFAIK) were down in Naha, not up in Koza (at least not recently).

[DoctorP]

raise it all you want...It's called The Stage and it's in Naha. Off-limits now.

It hasn't been called "The Stage" in years. It was renamed Naha Music Club.

[Tyru]

It hasn't been called "The Stage" in years. It was renamed Naha Music Club.

I knew it had another name I just couldn't remember.

[Muku]

I think The Stage was always off limits. But that name/buisness was taken down sometime ago and now it is back up with a different name and I believe no Americans are allowed to enter per the staff.
But man, that place was fun/funny as hell.
Some good memories, lol.

There is a difference Luna between American's and Military or SOFA. It is off limits to SOFA and has been for a while afaik.

Get's old right quick, plus the Columbian women that "work" :rolleyes: there are down right scary.

They make it a members only club with memberships being sold at the door.

No alcohol served on site, only beer and awamori sold out of vending machines.

[commando]

http://mikeely.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/us-rape-on-okinawa-again-enough/
Once again, American GIs have raped an Okinawan girl, one from junior high. We are angry.We do not believe that all of you are rapists. But given the long history of similar crimes over the sixty years from the Battle of Okinawa continuing to today, one could be forgiven for thinking so. If you are a female GI, can you trust these male GIs ?

We know that this incident is only the tip of the iceberg. There have been so many rape victims who have told no one and wept silently in their beds, that you are probably confident that you could get away with it, aren’t you. But those days are now over.

We are not going to let us and our mothers, our sisters and our daughters be humiliated any longer. Whatever you do, wherever you go, we’ll be watching you.

You have been turned into killing machines. The military organization has sought to teach you to see people not as people, but as something to kill. It is that same training that has taught you see us as someone you can rape casually. Go back to your hometown, where your mother is, and try to get yourself back to being a decent human being.

We do not hate you as individuals. But as members of the US military organization, you are unwelcome here. Maybe you imagine you are protecting Okinawa. But because you are here, we never feel safe. Because you are here, we feel constant fear.

You think that because the US military shed blood to seize Okinawa in World War II, the place belongs to you and you can do anything you want here, don’t you.

But whatever countries or governments may have won or lost whatever wars, we have our dignity, our honor, and our freedom, and these are our islands, our land, our sky, our sea. It is here that we maintain the chain of life, giving birth to children, and raising them to be adults. This is the women of Okinawa. And this is what we are proud of. We will not allow you to continue to insult the pride, the honor, the dignity of us and our mothers, sisters and daughters. Go back to America. Now

[commando]

Here's a pic of you from your last house party:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/AshMiller1972/commando.jpg

http://www.islandersarmy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/57367-simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

[commando]

http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?&act_id=16374&menu=11e
The heady mix of machismo and militarism that pervades US army bases generally means trouble for relations with local women. The areas surrounding many bases have high levels of prostitution, while the government agreements protecting US soldiers from prosecution mean that sex crimes are rarely met with adequate severity.

US military authorities have tended toward the idea that prostitution provides a useful way for soldiers stationed thousands of miles from wives or girlfriends to “let off steam”. The welfare of the women providing these “rest and recreational” opportunities is rarely of concern: prostitution around bases and ports used by US navy ships in the Philippines and Thailand fuels the trafficking of women throughout south-east Asia, while living conditions and standards of health amongst sex workers are often low. The attitude of US army doctors to local women seeking HIV tests illustrates military attitudes – women are tested to ensure that they are a safe, HIV-free commodity for the soldiers, but are not offered safe sex advice or supplies to protect themselves.

While military chiefs are able to dismiss the welfare of sex workers as an issue of the womens professional choice, reality shows a more complex situation, with many women not selecting this as a profession but regarding themselves as genuine partners who are then shocked to find themselves abandoned when military personnel move on. It is estimated that since 1945 there have been 50,000 unacknowledged children of US soldiers in the Philippines alone, and these receive none of the benefits of US military families, such as healthcare, housing and education. Similar problems have been reported around US bases in Germany and the UK.

The most extreme examples of the use and abuse of women by the US military are found in the high rate of sex crimes, including pedophilia, around army bases. High profile examples, such as the grotesquely sexualised murder of a young woman bar worker by a US serviceman in Korea in 1992 and the rape of a 12 year old girl in Okinawa by three GIs in 1995 are just the visible end of the everyday difficulties faced by women and girls in base towns from Honduras to Guam to Labrador. Studies from the US occupation of Japan in the 1950s show soldiers giving rape victims rationed food items, in order to turn the crime – at least in the perpetrator's eyes – into a commercial event encouraged by military policy. In its continued condoning of the use of large-scale prostitution and its refusal to take responsibility for the safety of women around its bases, the US military's attitudes continue to facilitate the use of women as objects in this way.

[Sex Wax]

Here's a pic of you from your last house party:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/AshMiller1972/commando.jpg

Holy crap..commando reported the joke image on photobucket...some dorks just cant take a joke. Let me see if I can get his image that was posted with image shack deleted.

[Sex Wax]

http://www.islandersarmy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/57367-simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

http://www.japanupdate.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3&pictureid=205

[Blues]

I didn't read any of the posts earlier, but doesn't surprise me, and hence better to live in a non- y plate neighborhood.

[uriel]

When you are 18 years old, a drunk Marine, egged on by your buddies.....yeah people still eat the banana.

A dying art I would say.

You should have seen what she could do with a cigarette or a stack of quarters:w00t::scratchchin:

I've actually seen her do that. It was quite disgusting, and yet, I couldn't look away... and no, I didn't eat the banana. I sat in the back.

[dk]

Twenty some-odd years, and I've still never been there...................

[Just John]

I've actually seen her do that. It was quite disgusting, and yet, I couldn't look away... and no, I didn't eat the banana. I sat in the back.

They still catch hell at work on Monday, and they never hear the end of it. Well; almost never, but it's all in good fun.

[uriel]

yeah, I just chalked it up to something I gotta see once. now it's on to scuba diving...