View Full Version : Whats with AFN radio? There's gotta be something else.
DJ_Supertard
08-22-2007, 09:57 PM
Is Wave whatever the only thing we have to listen to? I feel like I'm going to go insane by the amount of times they replay the SAME songs. And the DJ's crack lame jokes :barf:..lol.. I think Samy? was the name.. well one of the other guys is a bit entertaining can remember the name, but he would be better. Are there any other stations out there? When I do pick up the local channels even they play a larger variety of English music:thumbup:
87.3FM isn't bad from what I hear, and another member of ours posted about 88.1FM. If any of you know of any good stations, feel free to post them here as well as maybe give us a little bit of information about what they generally play.
I don't know much about 87.3 or 88.1 so I can hardly give a worthy summary.
DoctorP
08-22-2007, 10:08 PM
88.1 is actually ok at times...but moreso at night than in the daytime.
DJ_Supertard
08-22-2007, 10:09 PM
88.1 is actually ok at times...but moreso at night than in the daytime.
thanks i'll give it a try..I'm still a CD man in the car and it wears out after a while:thumbdown:
DoctorP
08-22-2007, 10:11 PM
CD's and mp3 players get way old way fast for me. Unless you are changing your music weekly. That's why I'm looking into the satellite radio stuff.
thanks i'll give it a try..I'm still a CD man in the car and it wears out after a while:thumbdown:
It does man. I've probably got 10 gigs of music on my I-Pod and I'm even getting tired of that. I need new music every three months or so.
N3philum
08-22-2007, 10:14 PM
try 45gigs on my 60 gig dell dj and im tired of all of it.
Yeah, I've got a 40 gig, but the only time I ever want to shop for music is when I'm in Osaka. These days, I pretty much only buy from Cisco Records. Everything else, I get from Amazon if I decide I want it badly enough.
DoctorP
08-22-2007, 10:17 PM
...you...guys...buy...music???? (amazed)
N3philum
08-22-2007, 10:19 PM
who guys buy music?
who guys buy music?
I buy music. :first:
Who else is going to support those Israeli/German/African Psychedelic Trance DJs? It's not like they're on the radio all day everyday lol.
I've never gotton into downloading music. If I want to hear something, I'll go see it live on youtube. If I want it in my car, I buy it.
DJ_Supertard
08-22-2007, 10:30 PM
I buy music. :first:
Who else is going to support those Israeli/German/African Psychedelic Trance DJs? It's not like they're on the radio all day everyday lol.
I've never gotton into downloading music. If I want to hear something, I'll go see it live on youtube. If I want it in my car, I buy it.
hum... that sounds cool any artist to recommend? I swear I'll just download to get a taste of it:w00t:
Lately, I guess my favorite is DNA (album Kick Me Up), but I like Infected Mushroom, Yehel (Superset vol. 1 only), GMS, just about anything with Raja Ram on it, just about anything produced by Tip Records. Trying to remember all the groups I listen to... I'll give you more if you want more. GMS was my favorite for a long time, so I'd offer that off as my biggest suggestion. I like it dark.
Honduh
08-23-2007, 08:32 AM
I like listening to waste gate's crack open, 8k rpms motors screaming and twin plates chingling at the intersections. At night, the sounds of motorcycles screaming down 58...
screw the stupid radio here.
silviasichigo
08-23-2007, 08:49 AM
I like listening to waste gate's crack open, 8k rpms motors screaming and twin plates chingling at the intersections. At night, the sounds of motorcycles screaming down 58...
screw the stupid radio here.
:thumbup1: Agreed but my wastegate won't crack back closed, I don't have an ipod so I just listen to the 5 CD's I have:crying:
jerky656
08-25-2007, 04:56 AM
AFN Radio is almost as bad as the AFN TV commercials. BAM YO! I'm a styrofoam cup yo!
P_chan
08-25-2007, 10:22 AM
who guys buy music?
I still buy music too!
Usually I download it first to see if I like it. Then if I really like it, or if it's one of my favorite bands, I'll usually go out and buy it.
DADOG
08-25-2007, 03:54 PM
all you can do is scan the local stations.
I'd like to know when and if they will ever get the AM back. it was a nice break from the crap on FM just to listen to some of the sports talk and dr. laura? it's been so long I forgot her name.
someone needs to do a fitness report on whoever the incompetents are running AFN here. and deploy lady love. please.
all you can do is scan the local stations.
I'd like to know when and if they will ever get the AM back. it was a nice break from the crap on FM just to listen to some of the sports talk and dr. laura? it's been so long I forgot her name.
someone needs to do a fitness report on whoever the incompetents are running AFN here. and deploy lady love. please.
I also miss AM, will it ever return or is it officially :dead:?
P_chan
08-25-2007, 08:30 PM
it will return, once they put up a new antenna. It was so rusted and old it fell over. Funny how they refer to it as 'technical' difficulties.
DougP
08-25-2007, 08:42 PM
it will return, once they put up a new antenna. It was so rusted and old it fell over. Funny how they refer to it as 'technical' difficulties.
Last I heard was someone messed up while they were doing maintenance. Something about support cables not being tight and it was windy.... I dunno but I wouldn't doubt it. I do know those antennas aren't cheap and are probably on the low priorty list of things to do, as far as funding goes.
P_chan
08-25-2007, 08:45 PM
Last I heard was someone messed up while they were doing maintenance. Something about support cables not being tight and it was windy.... I dunno but I wouldn't doubt it. I do know those antennas aren't cheap and are probably on the low priorty list of things to do, as far as funding goes.
It was as old as the hills! I'm pretty sure the support cables were there to help it stand because it was so rusted. Maybe that played a factor in it's collapse as well.
DougP
08-25-2007, 08:52 PM
yeah, not sure how old it was but I do know how bad things rust around here. I'd imagine that antenna had all kinds of issues stacked up against it.
Yeah but nearly ONE year
What are they doing making the damn antenna out of gold plate?
DoctorP
08-25-2007, 10:44 PM
Last I heard was someone messed up while they were doing maintenance. Something about support cables not being tight and it was windy.... I dunno but I wouldn't doubt it. I do know those antennas aren't cheap and are probably on the low priorty list of things to do, as far as funding goes.
Pretty close...they were replacing the support cables, before the new cable was in place they cut one of the old ones and creak, boom, bam...down it came!
The reason it is taking so long is that they had to budget the money for the repairs, being that this is a big job, and not something that they can run out to a local store and buy off the shelf!
DougP
08-26-2007, 02:39 AM
I think the price tag was close to a cool mil.
P_chan
08-26-2007, 10:21 AM
Antenna like that are huge so of course it will take a while and be expensive.
I'm assuming it's an HF AM antenna so it will have to be larger then a VHF or UHF antenna. Antenna size is proportional to wave length size. It will also probably be a 1/4 wave length antenna so it won't be the full wave length size.
TheNoNamedOne
08-26-2007, 01:53 PM
Antenna like that are huge so of course it will take a while and be expensive.
Yes, but why can't a dj just look out the window (not sure where it is) or drive by it and say something on the radio like, "man, the AM tower is going up little by little guys. Just saw it today and it was 20 meters off the ground," or something like us to at least let us know the construction effort has already begun.
Does anyone know where the actual antenna was, or where the new one is being built? Is it viewable from a road that people drive by? If so, post here and let us know what the construction looks like at the moment -- all these many months after it fell down and we've been hearing spots on the radio saying they are "working at it."
For some strange reason, I have the sense that construction has not taken form yet. But, hope I am wrong.
P_chan
08-26-2007, 03:54 PM
I was on camp butler (the part where all the high ranking officers live) testing out soft bank cell phones for work and I think it's right next to the AFN broadcasting building that is on camp butler. Damn officers, they have the nicest view from up their of the east china sea.
LOL some general was complaining about his cell phone service so I had to go to all the bases on island and test out our cell phones to make sure they worked. Of course, they worked fine. General was probably pissed he couldn't' make a call from his basement surrounded by concrete.
socalheart
08-26-2007, 04:59 PM
I was on camp butler (the part where all the high ranking officers live) testing out soft bank cell phones for work and I think it's right next to the AFN broadcasting building that is on camp butler. Damn officers, they have the nicest view from up their of the east china sea.
LOL some general was complaining about his cell phone service so I had to go to all the bases on island and test out our cell phones to make sure they worked. Of course, they worked fine. General was probably pissed he couldn't' make a call from his basement surrounded by concrete.
Plaza Housing is where AFN is located and MCB Butler's top brass live. It's across RTE 330 from the Awase golf course; big surprise there, huh? Heh.
I don't see why there'd be problems with a signal at the general's house. I've been to those homes recently. They're on a hill. My guess is that the general's wife complained about it, but actually doesn't know how to use her cell phone. Heh.
Uhm, what were we talking about..? :-|
DoctorP
08-26-2007, 05:05 PM
Yes, but why can't a dj just look out the window (not sure where it is) or drive by it and say something on the radio like, "man, the AM tower is going up little by little guys. Just saw it today and it was 20 meters off the ground," or something like us to at least let us know the construction effort has already begun.
Does anyone know where the actual antenna was, or where the new one is being built? Is it viewable from a road that people drive by? If so, post here and let us know what the construction looks like at the moment -- all these many months after it fell down and we've been hearing spots on the radio saying they are "working at it."
For some strange reason, I have the sense that construction has not taken form yet. But, hope I am wrong.
I don't want to say exactly where it was, but it is not outside the broadcasters window...not even close!
TheNoNamedOne
08-26-2007, 05:17 PM
I don't want to say exactly where it was, but it is not outside the broadcasters window...not even close!
But can you see it, DrP, where the new one is being built? How far off the ground has the highest part of the tower been erected thus far?
I just don't know why someone can't give us a visual to this simple question I have asked several times. It is as if this 'tower under construction' has no matter associated with it and no one can see it. lol.
Perhaps they are building it in the center of the Norther Training Area, hence no visual report from anyone on it. Geesh. Like pulling teeth to get a little info.
DoctorP
08-26-2007, 05:22 PM
No...it is not under construction, as was mentioned before, because funding had to be approved and allocated.
socalheart
08-26-2007, 05:26 PM
We have a bunch of old wire coat hangars they can use. Think that'll do it in the mean time? ;)
TheNoNamedOne
08-26-2007, 05:29 PM
No...it is not under construction, as was mentioned before, because funding had to be approved and allocated.
Ok, fair enough. Sorry I missed that where it was mentioned before.
Then they should change their PSA on it to state that. I think they have worded it like, "We are working hard to restore AFN a.m. to the air." Sure that is correct if we view some office pogues in accounting trying to crunch numbers and get funds allocated for it, but to me, that statement sounds more proactive than that.
The PSA should simply say,
"Until funds for the construction of AFN a.m. are acquired, construction to restore it to the air waves will not begin. When they are acquired and construction begins we will make an announcement to that effect."
At least that takes out a lot of wondering on the part of listeners.
No need for spinning the reality of the situation IMO. Not that office pogues and accountants don't work hard. I am sure they do. <smile>
TheNoNamedOne
08-26-2007, 05:32 PM
We have a bunch of old wire coat hangars they can use. Think that'll do it in the mean time? ;)
LOL!
Couldn't the military view it as a combat training scenario and have their communicatios gerry rig something that would let us get the signal anyway? Or is that beyond our communications combat experts' abilities?
I have no idea. Just asking.
DoctorP
08-26-2007, 05:45 PM
The PSA should simply say,
"Until funds for the construction of AFN a.m. are acquired, construction to restore it to the air waves will not begin. When they are acquired and construction begins we will make an announcement to that effect."
At least that takes out a lot of wondering on the part of listeners.
No need for spinning the reality of the situation IMO. Not that office pogues and accountants don't work hard. I am sure they do. <smile>
Perhaps you should get a job on base doing the PSA's...then at least one listener would be happy! :D
TheNoNamedOne
08-26-2007, 05:53 PM
Perhaps you should get a job on base doing the PSA's...then at least one listener would be happy! :D
LOL!
Think they'd let me make some PSA's on vegetarianism and animal rights? IF so, then I am there!
DougP
08-26-2007, 07:29 PM
LOL!
Couldn't the military view it as a combat training scenario and have their communicatios gerry rig something that would let us get the signal anyway? Or is that beyond our communications combat experts' abilities?
I have no idea. Just asking.
Man you have no idea the crazy things I had to do/use as a commo guy.:thumbup: Speaker wire, chainlink fences, paper clip, hell just about anything can make a good field expedient antenna when you need one.:D
P_chan
08-26-2007, 09:22 PM
They are working hard to get the antenna up, they are working hard trying to get an approval for funds to build it.
TheNoNamedOne
08-26-2007, 11:27 PM
Man you have no idea the crazy things I had to do/use as a commo guy.:thumbup: Speaker wire, chainlink fences, paper clip, hell just about anything can make a good field expedient antenna when you need one.:D
Then hell, Doug, you need to be advising AFN on how to get a.m. radio back up without a million dollar tower. Gerry rig gerry rig gerry rig -- at least until the "hard working office pogues" acquire the funds.
DoctorP
08-27-2007, 09:35 AM
I doubt that whatever doug could gerry rig would handle the power requirements of the AM transmitter.
TheNoNamedOne
08-27-2007, 12:12 PM
I doubt that whatever doug could gerry rig would handle the power requirements of the AM transmitter.
Couldn't our military combat communications specialists with their equipment do it?
atb35
08-27-2007, 01:19 PM
Come on now, they dont even care that they are putting out one PoS broadcast on Wave 89, do you really think they are putting that much effort into getting a 2nd one working?
They have a monopoly...what else are we going to listen to? They could never put up an AM antenna and there is nothing we could do about it. Do they have satallite radio here?
P_chan
08-27-2007, 04:37 PM
Yes you could put up two GRA 4s and make and antenna. But it would have very limited coverage and crappy quality.
DADOG
08-27-2007, 05:44 PM
range only needs to cover Okinawa and even crappy quality would be an improvement over wave now.
the DJ's don't know what's going on. there is a Gunnery Sgt with an office on Kadena who is supossed to be in charge of AFN. I think he needs to ramp up his knowledge of what is happening. it sure seems like his seemingly incompetance is showing. there is no practical reason that antenna should still be down except that they don't care it doesn't work or has crashed as reported.
The_Zach2681
08-27-2007, 06:11 PM
Come on now, they dont even care that they are putting out one PoS broadcast on Wave 89, do you really think they are putting that much effort into getting a 2nd one working?
They have a monopoly...what else are we going to listen to? They could never put up an AM antenna and there is nothing we could do about it. Do they have satallite radio here?
Let me tell you about AFN...
It's much worse than a monopoly - it's more akin to some anachronistic 60's Soviet state-sponsored propoganda network.
In true Soviet fashion, the AM tower was a shoddy collection of rusted metal built with superficiality, not durability, in mind.
Camp Kinser was left with the burden of harboring that eyesore; I've heard it will be hosting the undoubtedly short-lived replacement.
AFN isn't about quality, by any stretch of the imagination. It revolves around information - a steady, mind-numbing flow of useless, poorly-produced, amateurish information.
Tenants of civilian broadcasting like quality control, good contests, audience interaction, and music that appeals to your target audience are eschewd in favor of gutless repetition and bland, neutered programming that essentially guarantees an unoffended general audience. AFN: the eunich of radio.
The standards and practices exhibited in AFN broadcasts seem to defy every norm; DJ's who display any semblance of talent or creativity seem to have conspicuously finite careers, whereas monotone, verbally flaccid personalities manage to linger on the air well after the audience is cursing their name. (In my humble opinion after listening for years.)
I don't mind interracting with the DJ's on this forum, but my disdain for AFN runs pretty deep. This day-in, day-out horseshit is supposed to engage listeners with petty news stories and "uplifting" programs from cyborg DJ's who attempt to act like they're infallible; it's just a slap in the face. I long for some conflict, angst, reality and truth from military broadcasts. Instead, we have, "WAVE 89: THE BEST SOURCE FOR THE HITS!". The fact is, while some people are happy here, plenty of us are counting down the days before we flee this goddamn rock...
...so don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
P_chan
08-27-2007, 06:48 PM
range only needs to cover Okinawa and even crappy quality would be an improvement over wave now.
the DJ's don't know what's going on. there is a Gunnery Sgt with an office on Kadena who is supossed to be in charge of AFN. I think he needs to ramp up his knowledge of what is happening. it sure seems like his seemingly incompetance is showing. there is no practical reason that antenna should still be down except that they don't care it doesn't work or has crashed as reported.
But GRA 4s are tactical and not meant for permanent installation. Not to mention you would have to take them down every typhoon. Okinawa is a very mountainous place and there would be a lot of dead spots in valleys and such.
The range on any HF AM transmission can actually be very far indeed, after all HF AM is used for reach back comm. Because of the thiner ionosphere at night, the range is increased during the hours of darkness. You can pick up AM stations and other AM transmissions from half way across the globe at night time.
TheNoNamedOne
08-28-2007, 12:05 AM
AFN: the eunich of radio.
Whether I agree with them or not, I do appreciate well crafted metaphores.
Ouch!
TheLastDon
08-28-2007, 01:18 AM
Damn Zach 2681 I think you have some issues to resolve.
atb35
08-28-2007, 07:57 AM
I hope you guys were tuned in this morning......They are going to discusing the riveting topic of....Tsunami Gear changing its name to Tsunami Scuba!!
I understand where this would rate mentioning, but the DJ made it sound like this was some big, breaking news story that required discussion. They are even having some ppl from Tsunami Scuba come in to talk.
LOL, hey, at least when Im in my barracks, I can listen to San Diegos 93.3 on my cpu:)
DADOG
08-28-2007, 06:42 PM
when the AM was on they had the sports talk shows and an ocasional, (I can't spell that), BB game. the mind numbing DJ's were mostly on FM. some country on AM. the crap they play on FM, IE horny as a rock star, over and over is mind numbing. that's dumbing down the listeners to the point I rarely tune in anymore. once in a while I check the AM just to see if it came back. alas, no such luck. they need somebody competent to run the show here. well maybe half way competent will work.
atb35
08-28-2007, 07:13 PM
so does anyone know if they have satallite radio on island?
DougP
08-28-2007, 07:20 PM
they do. I think the name of the provider is USEN iirc.
TheNoNamedOne
08-28-2007, 07:33 PM
I think I might take some flack for this, but I think I heard some of you guys bitching about the "Dililah" song. Man, I listend to that today again on AFN and to tell you the truth -- I like that song. I am not sure what you guys don't like about it? Rather good lyracal story I think.
DougP
08-28-2007, 07:53 PM
I think I might take some flack for this, but I think I heard some of you guys bitching about the "Dililah" song. Man, I listend to that today again on AFN and to tell you the truth -- I like that song. I am not sure what you guys don't like about it? Rather good lyracal story I think.
Which one is that? Not the umbrella song I hope:barf:
TheNoNamedOne
08-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Which one is that? Not the umbrella song I hope:barf:
No! I hate the Umbrella Song.
I am talking about the guitar solo more or less. "Hey there Dililah gonna blah blah blah when I make it I will be coming back to you... Hey there Dililah..."
Sorry I don't really know the words.
P_chan
08-28-2007, 08:02 PM
No! I hate the Umbrella Song.
I am talking about the guitar solo more or less. "Hey there Dililah gonna blah blah blah when I make it I will be coming back to you... Hey there Dililah..."
Sorry I don't really know the words.
god that song is horrible.
DougP
08-28-2007, 08:03 PM
oh ok I've heard that song once it didn't seem too bad. But I'm sure if I listened to AFN for too long I'd be tired of it by now
TheNoNamedOne
08-28-2007, 08:17 PM
god that song is horrible.
What part of it? The lyrics? The rythem? The guys voice? The hook?
I don't think the hook is repeated mindlessly SO many times that it becomes overly grating.
I kinda like the fact that it is clean without tons of instruments. Refreshing in that sense.
socalheart
08-28-2007, 09:29 PM
I heard the umbrella song while at karaoke the other night. Nothing in that song makes sense to me. :confused: Why is it so popular? We made fu of it the whole night. It's a horrible song for anyone with any taste. For once, i don't give two slaps if someone is offended by opinion of this song. It's worse than the MmBop song! At least the Delilah song tells a bit of a story, as goofy as it may be. No wonder kids seem so stupid these days, listening to this tripe.
P_chan
08-28-2007, 09:57 PM
Everything is horrible about that song, just not my type of music.
Don't want to hear about some teenage type guy whining about his girl troubles.
TheNoNamedOne
08-28-2007, 10:01 PM
I can relate to enduring a long distance relationship.
P_chan
08-28-2007, 10:01 PM
As can I, but I didn't whine about it.
TheNoNamedOne
08-28-2007, 10:05 PM
I often shared my emotions with my girlfriend about being far apart and wantng to get back with her. I don't see that as whining, and his voice doesn't come across as whining. Just stating what he wants with some heartfelt emotion added to it.
Nothing wrong with that. After all, we are not Spockheads -- at least I am not. I don't think he is either.
P_chan
08-28-2007, 10:09 PM
I did have heart to heart conversations with my wife while we were apart.
His voice sounds like whining to me. Just annoying as hell.
TheNoNamedOne
08-28-2007, 10:16 PM
So, it is the voice more than anything else you don't like?
P_chan
08-29-2007, 08:05 AM
yes, and the music, just not my type.
TheNoNamedOne
08-29-2007, 02:14 PM
yes, and the music, just not my type.
Realy!? Though I don't seek string guitar solo music out, when I hear it standing on its own, I find that refreshing without all the other instruments crowding in around the song.
Next time you hear it, give it another try. Perhaps you may agree.
P_chan
08-29-2007, 04:49 PM
I heard it twice today in the span of an hour and a half. Woke me up from my nap the one time. Still don't care for it.
Hollarey
08-29-2007, 04:56 PM
What part of it? The lyrics? The rythem? The guys voice? The hook?
I don't think the hook is repeated mindlessly SO many times that it becomes overly grating.
I kinda like the fact that it is clean without tons of instruments. Refreshing in that sense.
I like the song...but just like with every good song it gets overplayed and then starts to becoming annoying. Then a few years goes by and it is being sung in karaoke bars.
DoctorP
08-29-2007, 05:45 PM
That song itself isn't too bad, but I'm already tired of it!
That song itself isn't too bad, but I'm already tired of it!
Thank God I have no idea what song you are talking about, just from reading the comments here it isnt even worth the time to try and find out either.
Also if ANYONE is a smart ass here and posts a link to it I personally will ensure that you get :81:
Thank you, have a nice day!:D
Hollarey
08-29-2007, 06:08 PM
Wanting soooo bad to do that!!!:D
DougP
08-29-2007, 08:34 PM
I had been wondering what kind of idiots were responsible for all the trash making its way into the top 40s these days. That is until I saw the interview with Miss Teen South Carolina. It pretty much summed it up.
P_chan
08-29-2007, 08:35 PM
yeah we should spread american education to other countries like south africa.....and the asian countries.....such as.
LOL yeah spread that wealth of knowledge.:rolleyes:
:edit: oh and dont' forget THE Iraq.
DougP
08-29-2007, 08:38 PM
yup when I saw that I though to myself "oh no wonder they play that Umbrella song on the radio so much."
TheNoNamedOne
08-29-2007, 08:41 PM
I wonder if any umbrella factories play the umbrella song on the production line. ???
Could you imagine a worse hell than being on an umbrella factory production line while the umbrella song played over and over on the loudspeakers for an 8 hour shift?
DougP
08-29-2007, 08:47 PM
I wonder if any umbrella factories play the umbrella song on the production line. ???
Could you imagine a worse hell than being on an umbrella factory production line while the umbrella song played over and over on the loudspeakers for an 8 hour shift?
I'd imagine it would be like having AFN on all day at work:D
TheNoNamedOne
08-29-2007, 09:17 PM
I'd imagine it would be like having AFN on all day at work:D
LOL! Do you work in an umbrella factory, Doug? Perhaps here?
Is that you on the right?
http://gaia-s.net/SouthAsia2000/GreenUmbrella/images/umbrella_factory3.jpg
DougP
08-29-2007, 10:20 PM
Man I was really planning on cleaning up the office before they took those pictures.. Things were kinda busy though as you can tell.
TheNoNamedOne
08-30-2007, 12:19 AM
And look at how good you guys are at using your toes!
DougP
08-30-2007, 01:09 AM
that's what I call multitasking:)
TheNoNamedOne
08-30-2007, 01:13 AM
that's what I call multitasking:)
Looks like a sweat shop. Do the umbrellas have Nike logos on them somewhere?
DougP
08-30-2007, 01:16 AM
yes but the swoosh is upside down looks more like a newport logo
socalheart
08-30-2007, 12:59 PM
maybe they can use a bunch of those umbrellas with some wire coat hangers as an AM antenna! :D you know, rig the umbrella-ella-ella as a satellitte dish thing-ay-ay-ay. :rolleyes:
TheNoNamedOne
08-30-2007, 01:23 PM
Funny, Socal! LMAO.
The_Zach2681
08-30-2007, 03:40 PM
I was perturbed by the midday ass-hat playing New Kids on the block; it's bad enough the current music is repetitive and annoying, now the DJ's are making efforts to ravage our ears in different musical eras.
Mr. Weatherby continues to reassert his ass-hatness with piss-poor songs accompanied by excruciatingly long phone calls. On top of this, he attempts to mitigate his own suckiness by berating callers. It's bad enough to endure AFN - I don't need some smart-ass hack giving me shit when I finally reach the bastard after dialing the request line for an hour straight.
The AM tower's construction in the foreseeable future is just a pipe dream - perhaps if I built a baseball field up north, and chanted shitty top 40 songs for a few hours, another AM tower would magically appear, a la "Field of Dreams." Don't get your hopes up, guys.
And yes, I have issues - if you spend enough time exposed to AFN radio, it saps any vestige of sanity you would've maintained. It's like the chernobyl of radio - if you get overexposed, you're screwed for life!
P_chan
08-30-2007, 03:47 PM
You sure like the word ass-hat huh?
Your right though, they probably will never build another AM antenna. Just like they will never put up a golf ball net on the side of the kadena golf course the faces the flightline.
DoctorP
09-11-2007, 05:22 PM
This morning was just sad! This is not a knock on Samy...but rather on those two MasterSgt's (AF) that took part in the 1stShirt talk.
Listen guys...if you are going to go on the radio, take enough time to plan out your responses. There were too many uhs, and I don't knows, and I'm not sure's. These guys are supposed to be shit hot, and on the ball as far as regulations go, but they came across lost.
Samy did a good job keeping things going, but if any of you ever have an opportunity to go on the air, prepare yourself before hand.
DADOG
09-16-2007, 07:30 AM
anybody can use the Butler O club. just like Kadena's O club. the only problem with it is it's not open all the time. but they have a good Sunday brunch.
why can't AFN co locate the AM antenna on the FM tower? or is there such a thing? ot the TV tower?
P_chan
09-16-2007, 09:20 AM
AM antennas are usually bigger then FM antennas. The lower the frequency, the bigger the antenna. Not to mention they would probably cause interference with one another. You can get interference just by placing the antenna lines too close to electrical lines.
Cathleen_38
11-26-2007, 03:51 AM
Is it only me when I say that love is in the air when you're there in Okinawa?
It hits you hard in the soul. How can it not? Look at it, beautiful tropical oceans, crashing against rocks that push upward at a slant. white sandy beaches with a scorching hot sun. Beautiful sunsets. Your lover glancing at you, on a moonlit beach. What's not to love? I love it and want to be there again.
okisteve
11-26-2007, 07:51 AM
Thanks Cathleen for reviving this thread, even tho a little off the topic but sweet.
So does anyone have any more intel on the late 648 AM, or are they still planning the bake sale to finance the new antenna?
gibbonboy
06-25-2008, 12:01 PM
Our local radio station has their FM and AM antennas on the same tower. As long as there's no harmonics or mixing involved, the two don't interact. It's only a 500 foot tower.
According to my bad math, a 1/4 wave antenna at 648 kHz is roughly 361 feet long, not accounting for the antenna material and other factors. Of course, I usually deal with much higher frequencies at work, very little call in my field for LF/MF.
You could easily transmit enough AM power to blanket the island and several hundred miles of ocean with a piece of thin wire. Durability and loss would be the main factors for a larger conductor. I have easily transmitted several thousand watts of HF with #14 copper wire from Lowes. Antenna design is also influenced by the intended broadcast area.
We generally budget $100K for replacement of a 120 foot freestanding tower. That doesn't include antennas, structures, cabling, or transmitters. So a million bucks is probably about right.
AM, along with shortwave, is rapidly switching to digital broadcasting. DRM is becoming more popular as more and more stations switch over.
Crap, just realized how old this thread is. Anyway, any more news on the missing antenna? Hehe, sorry.
okisteve
06-25-2008, 04:51 PM
I don't know how it happened or how tall it is (very doubtful it is a full 1/4-wave) but 648 AM has been back for a month or so. Still junky country on weekends but a few good programs in between Hannity and Limbaugh on weekdays.
Winston
07-02-2008, 12:06 AM
I don't know how it happened or how tall it is (very doubtful it is a full 1/4-wave) but 648 AM has been back for a month or so. Still junky country on weekends but a few good programs in between Hannity and Limbaugh on weekdays.
It all sucks. Cause i just love Leona Lewis.
Oki alumni
07-02-2008, 01:57 AM
Okisteve, are you kidding? There are only TWO kinds of REAL music in the entire universe. COUNTRY and WESTERN. All that sucky stuff in between can be eliminated with the on/off switch, fortunately.
Eagle 810 in Tokyo...well, actually at Yokota Air Base, Japan...ROCKS DA HOUSE! FM radio here is strictly cable, and can't be received off-base.
-Oki Alumni
Winston
07-02-2008, 09:38 AM
I live in Nago, and can still get most of the FM stuff, but AM is a little weak. I prefer AM to anything else. I like the NPR in the morning, and I also enjoy DL at 3.:grin1:
zeldan
07-03-2008, 01:32 AM
Is Wave whatever the only thing we have to listen to? I feel like I'm going to go insane by the amount of times they replay the SAME songs. And the DJ's crack lame jokes :barf:..lol.. I think Samy? was the name.. well one of the other guys is a bit entertaining can remember the name, but he would be better. Are there any other stations out there? When I do pick up the local channels even they play a larger variety of English music:thumbup:
Yeah, Samy Fineman was the one with the lame jokes...... ugh. CDs ftw.
Old guy
07-03-2008, 12:56 PM
FM Okinawa 87.3
http://www.fmokinawa.co.jp/
McGuiver
08-25-2008, 06:22 PM
I have discovered the joys of internet radio. I still give Wave 89 the first crack but as soon as a rap or hard-core country song comes on I switch to my computer. Some of the younger DJs are hard to listen to, too. That new Rach H. sounds pretty good... so far.
I was using Pandora until they blocked it to overseas users. Now I bounce around the different JackFM stations. The best mix I've found yet.
Pandora
08-26-2008, 10:42 AM
I really miss pandora.
I LOL'ed...even though you two weren't talking about me.
:w00t:
oki_mma
08-31-2008, 01:20 PM
hello to all. i am in need of everyones opinion on why only having one radio station (AFN) is a problem for us here on Okinawa? i am doing a paper/speech on this topic for college and would like some feedback from AFN listeners. if you want you can email me at mattheesook26@hotmail.com or just post you thoughts/opinions here. thanks for your help.
P_chan
08-31-2008, 06:07 PM
hello to all. i am in need of everyones opinion on why only having one radio station (AFN) is a problem for us here on Okinawa? i am doing a paper/speech on this topic for college and would like some feedback from AFN listeners. if you want you can email me at mattheesook26@hotmail.com or just post you thoughts/opinions here. thanks for your help.
Here comes the spam!
Oki alumni
08-31-2008, 06:51 PM
Here comes the spam!
B-b-b-b-b-but I LIKE (canned) SPAM! Especially the BBQ flavour! Makes breakfast a REAL treat!
Pure phat AFN, it just don't GET enny better, now does it?
-Oki Alumni:old: (Gimme calories, gimme carbs, gimme lard, 'n nitrosomines...the rest of that "Low" & "Reduced" junk stuff is for WUSSIES!!!!!!"
Medama_Oyaji
09-03-2008, 06:51 PM
Yeah, Samy Fineman was the one with the lame jokes...... ugh. CDs ftw.
thank you.
I LOL'ed...even though you two weren't talking about me.
:w00t:
Ok, I just now saw this. :thumbup:
badkitty
09-03-2008, 07:55 PM
What the crap is the matter with that afternoon chick??? she is monotone....... she sounds like she bores herself....
DougP
09-03-2008, 07:57 PM
What the crap is the matter with that afternoon chick??? she is monotone....... she sounds like she bores herself....
Did they get rid of the morning chick?
AND why do they always cut to a stupid AFN-O-Mercial in the middle of AM programs???:cursing:
Seriously, right in the middle of something, be it sports or whatever, and then all of a sudden "Hey its Tony the friendly Liger..."
badkitty
09-03-2008, 08:00 PM
no the Air Force chick is still there for the mornings.....
DougP
09-03-2008, 08:02 PM
no the Air Force chick is still there for the mornings.....
:crying: Oh well, I can always listen to Marketplace and All Things Considered on my way to work....:star:
badkitty
09-03-2008, 08:03 PM
viva la ipod! it makes the AFN go away
viva la ipod! it makes the AFN go away
Sometimes, though, 40gb isn't enough. I get tired of my own i-pod selection from time to time and just want to listen to some crap. So, I turn on the radio, and guess what. It's country and western day. :thumbdown:
P_chan
09-03-2008, 08:14 PM
Agree with you there dk. I usually listen to my ipod but I get bored of it from time to time. I normally switch to dane cook cds if I get bored of my ipod:thumbup:
OtisPMerriweather
09-03-2008, 08:16 PM
hello to all. i am in need of everyones opinion on why only having one radio station (AFN) is a problem for us here on Okinawa? i am doing a paper/speech on this topic for college and would like some feedback from AFN listeners. if you want you can email me at mattheesook26@hotmail.com or just post you thoughts/opinions here. thanks for your help.
Pretty much cause it's just another military propaganda machine. A medium for pushing MCCS/Services sponsored events, tours, etc. A place where commanders can put across their talking points, etc., etc.
If you think about it, here in Okinawa, we are bombarded all day long with military-approved garbage. Get up in the morning, turn on the news, you get "Around the Services" telling us about some asshole sailors building a home for retarded kids. Oh, and during commercials, the infamous AFN spots. Drive to work, here's Wave 89, with whatever dumb twit of the minute they choose to put on the air...example:
Rach H: "Why do people choose to come to Okinawa, this beautiful tropical place, and then ride around with their windows rolled up?? Gahh!"
Me: Because it's HOT, you dumb bitch! That's why cars HAVE windows! And umm..you do realize most of the people here didn't CHOOSE to come here, right???? Psst, look at that Okinawan in the next car...she's in the AC with her windows up, laughing at you and your musty ass sweating in this heat!
Get to work, by the front door- why there's the OkiMar to tell us what color socks we can and can't wear. F--k it, I'm going to go to the Shoppette and grab some coffee- oh look, the Stars and Stripes! Got an appointment at dental? Never fear, Okinawa Living magazine is right there in the waiting room to tell you that there is a karaoke contest at the Globe and Anchor- 1st prize, an MCCS t-shirt!
Drive home, more Wave 89. Get to the commissary to pick up something for dinner- there's a big red ass sign telling you that you can't wear this or that. Finally get home, just in time for a commercial telling you "there's more to your service compensation than base pay!" Don't like it? Well there's always 24 hour Pentagon channel.
So yeah, there's a BIG problem with just having one radio station controlled by the military. I wish I knew how to start a radio station here, I'd be the anti-AFN. They would make my shit off-limits. And for sponsors, I could get all the soapies and bars on Gate 2 to do commercials. I'd let you call in anonymously and talk shit about your boss, his wife, whatever. NCIS would be on my ass everyday! I can almost see it now....:scratchchin:
P_chan
09-03-2008, 08:34 PM
Otis pretty much hit the nail on the head. LOL and I was listening that morning when that dumb girl was going on and on about people who use their AC. I don't use my AC often, but that's because I like the wind while I drive. But I don't think people who are using AC are somehow missing out on how "beautiful" Okinawa is. Unless they find sweaty balls to be beautiful.
...
So yeah, there's a BIG problem with just having one radio station controlled by the military. I wish I knew how to start a radio station here, I'd be the anti-AFN. They would make my shit off-limits. And for sponsors, I could get all the soapies and bars on Gate 2 to do commercials. I'd let you call in anonymously and talk shit about your boss, his wife, whatever. NCIS would be on my ass everyday! I can almost see it now....:scratchchin:
If you can figure out how to get that radio station started, I'd love you long time. Okinawa FM can only take the AFN pain away temporarily. We need a real radio station.
SGT_OKINAWA
09-03-2008, 08:46 PM
Pretty much cause it's just another military propaganda machine.
LOL! So true, I'd just stop listening / reading all that crap, Cable TV is your friend, Satellite radio is your friend, blinders on as you enter the commissary is your friend.
:D
Peace!:)
But I don't think people who are using AC are somehow missing out on how "beautiful" Okinawa is. Unless they find sweaty balls to be beautiful.
*In his most beautiful Bette Midler impression, dk breaks out into singing, "You are the wind between my knees" for p_chan.*
P_chan
09-03-2008, 08:52 PM
*In his most beautiful Bette Midler impression, dk breaks out into singing, "You are the wind between my knees" for p_chan.*
If that's some kind of code requesting sexual favors.....I decline.
I can climb hiiiiiiiigher than an Eaaaaaaagle!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El-C3w4CYqo
Pandora
09-04-2008, 11:49 AM
Otis pretty much hit the nail on the head. LOL and I was listening that morning when that dumb girl was going on and on about people who use their AC. I don't use my AC often, but that's because I like the wind while I drive. But I don't think people who are using AC are somehow missing out on how "beautiful" Okinawa is. Unless they find sweaty balls to be beautiful.
Aren't you just agreeing with her when you say, "you don't use your AC often, because you like the wind when you drive?"
In any case, I really liked her and that guy on together the last couple of mornings. I mean, if I have to listen to AFN(and I do where I work), at least the two of them are entertaining. :thumbup: That being said, I wish we could have more say in what they play. :thumbdown:
badkitty
09-04-2008, 12:19 PM
Aren't you just agreeing with her when you say, "you don't use your AC often, because you like the wind when you drive?"
In any case, I really liked her and that guy on together the last couple of mornings. I mean, if I have to listen to AFN(and I do where I work), at least the two of them are entertaining. :thumbup: That being said, I wish we could have more say in what they play. :thumbdown:
Yea Todd Hunter is back (thank gawd) and he's helping the morning show because that chic is just plain boring. He's a goofball too but I would rather listen to him that her babbblin about MCCS and her townhome anyday.:thumbup:
xXNothingnessXx
09-04-2008, 12:34 PM
If you think about it, here in Okinawa, we are bombarded all day long with military-approved garbage. Get up in the morning, turn on the news, you get "Around the Services" telling us about some asshole sailors building a home for retarded kids. Oh, and during commercials, the infamous AFN spots. Drive to work, here's Wave 89, with whatever dumb twit of the minute they choose to put on the air...example:
If we didn't have all that garbage everywhere there would be people complaining that they couldn't find out any news.
DoctorP
09-04-2008, 12:55 PM
I don't think Rachael is doing that bad. I will say that the poor woman on the air with her this morning from Kadena ITT sounded like a fool! C'mon, she doesn't even know which islands are where around Okinawa, but she's gonna send other people out on tours?
OtisPMerriweather
09-04-2008, 01:00 PM
If we didn't have all that garbage everywhere there would be people complaining that they couldn't find out any news.
News is something totally different than Chain of Command talking points.
And what "news" is ever discussed on Wave 89??
I like FM Okinawa, 87.3, cause I can't understand what they're saying.
P_chan
09-04-2008, 02:12 PM
Aren't you just agreeing with her when you say, "you don't use your AC often, because you like the wind when you drive?"
In any case, I really liked her and that guy on together the last couple of mornings. I mean, if I have to listen to AFN(and I do where I work), at least the two of them are entertaining. :thumbup: That being said, I wish we could have more say in what they play. :thumbdown:
No I'm not agreeing with her at all. She said open your windows beacuse okinawa is beautiful and you are somehow missing it by keeping them closed. I said I seldom use my AC due to the fact that I like to have the wind blowing in my face. Two totally different reasons, don't see how they relate at all except for the fact of not using AC. I do still use AC when the wife is in the car, and I don't feel as if I'm missing out on okinawa because of it:rolleyes:.
I think the reason I don't mind not using AC is because my very first car (back in the states) didn't have AC so I got used to it. But then again, back home I used to ride around in the winter with my windows down and the heat on:thumbup:
Old Timer
09-04-2008, 02:34 PM
OK.......A/C no A/C...fine. I'm old. I listen to MP3'S/ CD's/ that new fangled IPOD thing injected into the cars sound system.........WTF is wrong with you young people listeneing to that bullshit AFN stuff. News, I understand, but AFN...MUSIC
Good Lord!!!!!!!!
:eek::82::71::17::6::59::37::47::57::4:
P_chan
09-12-2008, 10:50 PM
So who is that DJ that was on tonight? I think his name was Wayne or something like that. I heard him around 9:30 when I was out getting something to eat. After hearing him I do believe that he would have to be the WORST DJ! It's like he is trying way too hard to be goofy and it just comes off as annoying. He kept playing some stupid sound byte and then would say "that was the last time I'm going to play it". But then he'd play it again seconds later and then say "ok that was the last time". But he NEVER STOPPED! You`re not funny, that sound byte is dumb, play some freaking music!
But he NEVER STOPPED! Your not funny, that sound byte is dumb, play some freaking music!
Maybe it's like reality TV, only radio. Now we have to adjust (dumb down) our brains to reality radio........
I do really love some reality TV though, and I can't imagine it ever working on radio... it would be like going back in time (BTW, my brother was trying to sell me some quantum physics stuff today. He actually got me to admit that scientists have moved things from one spot to another w/out touching them and w/ out seeing them in route, they just haven't yet done it with living beings or into the past or future - maybe a different thread).....
zenzelle
09-12-2008, 11:23 PM
OK.......A/C no A/C...fine. I'm old. I listen to MP3'S/ CD's/ that new fangled IPOD thing injected into the cars sound system.........WTF is wrong with you young people listeneing to that bullshit AFN stuff. News, I understand, but AFN...MUSIC
Good Lord!!!!!!!!
:eek::82::71::17::6::59::37::47::57::4:
Right there with you man. I cant stand AFN Radio. We dont even have AFN Television. It is banned from my house. No way I am going to pay several hundred dollars to have that set up. It just is not worth it to me. I can actually feel myself getting dumber as I watch the "public service" announcements.
And what the hell is up with the crap I have to endure playing while shopping at the BX. It makes me want to run screaming from the store at times - certainly not good for business. Frankly I would prefer silence!
kombu_kid
09-13-2008, 12:10 AM
Hey, if ya'll wanna hear some tripped out, crazy new stuff, check out these radio stations from here in sunny So. Cal.......they've got almost every type of music DJ's.....so you might hear some strange stuff that you may hate, but just bounce in & out and you'll probably enjoy it at times. When it's good, it's great!
http://www.kxlu.com/site29.aspx
http://www.kspc.org
P_chan
10-20-2008, 10:52 PM
Oki blaze.......that was the DJs name. Man that guy is annoying as hell!:cursing:
jthizz
10-20-2008, 10:56 PM
the friday night hip hop guy, for all those clubber who listen to the radio.....
Jimmy Hoffa
10-20-2008, 11:00 PM
That guy on friday nights is pretty good i like him.
trissytrissy47
10-20-2008, 11:19 PM
Wow if I'd have known this thread existed I'd have posted my novel here instead of the Katy Perry thread. Weird that it pops up after I posted! :D
P-chan I remember the night you were talking about! I was at work ( I freaking hate working Friday nights BECAUSE of that show-not really because of the DJ, but because I can only take so much...whatever genre that is) and he was playing the sound bite you were supposed to listen for during the song to call in and like...win stuff.
I remember one night he was giving away a "bouquet for your boo" and nobody called...he had to ask on air and then these two people kept calling and hanging up to get to the like 10th caller or whatever...:D It was like a race! Riveting!
"Am I ten?"
"Nope 4."
"Okay I'll call back"
Haha.
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